View Full Version : Sour D popping hermies at day 58!
lampost
04-11-2010, 12:56 AM
So I noticed several bananas coming out on this Sour D at day 58. I noticed at least 3 different buds w bananas and one had a group of 3 bananas.
Looking for advice from experienced growers. Would you suggest just yanking the plant? Seeds are an absolute no-no!! Although the Sour D isn't ready, it seems it may be worth taking it a bit early to avoid the chance of seeds. Are these pollen sacks / bananas viable when they show up this late? They looked pretty healthy to me and I'm glad I caught them when I did...:cool:
funkfingers
04-11-2010, 01:12 AM
True Ecsd is really sensitive to heat/ light leaks are any of these your problem..sometimes it can be as little light as the red dot on a timer or something really stupid.. Until then just carefully remove the pollen sacs, most of the time the pollen from sour isn't viable...She's a finicky girl but so worth it. HOpe that helps:rastasmoke:
Vancefish
04-11-2010, 01:14 AM
I started getting a few nanners here and there about a week ago. I'd read you could pluck them out, but some guy here said to leave them. So, I plucked them out with some tiny tweezers. Over the last few days I've plucked about 15, but have yet to allow them to develop to see pollen (I don't want seeds either:D).
Today my tall plant (which hasn't shown nanners) is showing almost all cloudy. The LST is the one with nanners and looks to be about a week out on all cloudy. With so little time left, I'm picking them.:thumbsup: They are easy enough to see(being way yellower then the rest).
However if missed they can drop pollen.
GratefulMeds
04-11-2010, 01:22 AM
True Ecsd is really sensitive to heat/ light leaks are any of these your problem..sometimes it can be as little light as the red dot on a timer or something really stupid.. Until then just carefully remove the pollen sacs, most of the time the pollen from sour isn't viable...She's a finicky girl but so worth it. HOpe that helps:rastasmoke:
Sour D is finicky for sure, I would not pull it early but pluck the flowers as suggested. that last two weeks are when the buds get dense.
lampost
04-11-2010, 01:25 AM
True Ecsd is really sensitive to heat/ light leaks are any of these your problem..sometimes it can be as little light as the red dot on a timer or something really stupid.. Until then just carefully remove the pollen sacs, most of the time the pollen from sour isn't viable...She's a finicky girl but so worth it. HOpe that helps:rastasmoke:
Thanks funkfingers. It's reassuring to know that it's not the most virile nutsack :S2: I've been curious as to what I've actually got... I picked up this clone at CAM. So, I'm not sure if they have the ECSD clone-only or the Rez version... does anyone know?
Yeah, I agree that it's worth it. The effects are a bit too racy for me, but it tastes so good in organic soil!!
Well, I just chopped off the entire branches where I saw the nanners!! I know that was probably a bad idea, but I think I may just end up taking her down. I've got 3 SDs total and the other 2 aren't showing any intersex parts... so hopefully I'll be able to let those run like 70-77 days!! They got ravaged by root aphids too, so they could stand to pack on some weight if they're able.
lampost
04-11-2010, 01:29 AM
Thanks Grateful Meds!
I kinda f'd up and panicked taking off a couple huge branches (I think I subconsciously wanted some early smoke ;)). Now I'll probably just end up chopping her because that stress will probably just lead to more bananas that I don't feel like chasing this late in the game... oh well maybe I'll leave her a couple more days.
lampost
04-11-2010, 01:31 AM
I started getting a few nanners here and there about a week ago. I'd read you could pluck them out, but some guy here said to leave them. So, I plucked them out with some tiny tweezers. Over the last few days I've plucked about 15, but have yet to allow them to develop to see pollen (I don't want seeds either:D).
Today my tall plant (which hasn't shown nanners) is showing almost all cloudy. The LST is the one with nanners and looks to be about a week out on all cloudy. With so little time left, I'm picking them.:thumbsup: They are easy enough to see(being way yellower then the rest).
However if missed they can drop pollen.
VF you chopping? When are you doing it? Have fun... I'm sure you're as excited as I am! Do you have a grow log or anything? I'll be interested in seeing how you come out... I know we ran into a lot of the same problems. I got 5 years of DANK bagseed, but I'm a little leary about popping any of them.
funkfingers
04-11-2010, 03:24 AM
VF you chopping? When are you doing it? Have fun... I'm sure you're as excited as I am! Do you have a grow log or anything? I'll be interested in seeing how you come out... I know we ran into a lot of the same problems. I got 5 years of DANK bagseed, but I'm a little leary about popping any of them.
Who knows you could have some fire in the bagseed.. Hard to run seeds and stay within your guidelines :( Regardless great for prosperity if nothing else:rastasmoke:
Everything I've ran from rez has been prone to hermie FWIW but with all those superstars in his line-up your bound to have kinda a mutated gene pool:rastasmoke:
lampost
04-11-2010, 03:28 AM
OK, I did a little more thorough investigation and there are several bananas coming up in the buds. Actually all 3 SDs are showing a few bananas, but one of them had like 10+. I haven't pulled any of the plants yet....
So, is it pretty well-accepted fact that these "nanners" don't produce viable pollen? There didn't seem to be any pollen in them as I plucked them.
I just saw so many of these bananas!! If there's a chance that these can produce viable pollen then I may go ahead an pull them (at least the bad one). I can't keep up with all 3. Even after searching for an hour I'm sure I still missed one or two nanners...
palerider7777
04-11-2010, 04:30 AM
I started getting a few nanners here and there about a week ago. I'd read you could pluck them out, but some guy here said to leave them. So, I plucked them out with some tiny tweezers. Over the last few days I've plucked about 15, but have yet to allow them to develop to see pollen (I don't want seeds either:D).
Today my tall plant (which hasn't shown nanners) is showing almost all cloudy. The LST is the one with nanners and looks to be about a week out on all cloudy. With so little time left, I'm picking them.:thumbsup: They are easy enough to see(being way yellower then the rest).
However if missed they can drop pollen.
whoever told you not to pluck don't know what they are talking about.now if the sac opened already then yea to late.just a fyi go get some reverse by dutch masters.not for this round but next time you are working with a picky bitch. run reverse as a foliar spray in you're cycle.this stuff does help plants that are prone to herm.as for you're problems now start keeping them sprayed down as much as you can without burning you're plants with the lights.this will keep any pollen that may get loose from spreading.and pluck all nanners you see ck atleast 2 or 3 times a day for new growth.oh yea that reverse can help stop new growth alil this late in the game as well.
this message will destruct after reading as lamp cannot read this he believes anything i say is wrong and will rot his brain....plus i don't know wtf im talking about...:stoned:
pfunk211
04-11-2010, 07:23 AM
just put a crop of sour d in jars a few days ago with the same problem, bananas in the last couple of weeks of flower, with ideal conditions. from what i've read, selfing is just in the sour d's nature.
i pluck- you've got a day or two before that banana opens up to a swollen flower- and let 'er run until ten weeks and have had nothing but compliments.....
gave one guy an anxiety attack, it's so fierce.
i tried reverse and penetrator on half the last run, once a week before flowering and once a week after, and the whole crop had the same issues...still no seeds, though.
when you see the first male flower, you have about ten days until you cut, from my experience.
lampost
04-11-2010, 09:43 AM
^Good to hear... OK all you guys are starting to reassure me.
I didn't step back and realize there's only about 10-12 days left. Also, my new growth is moving REALLY slow... things never fully recovered from my root aphid infestation... so "nanners" that would normally mature and release in 2-3 days are probably moving a little slower for me. I was actually considering 77 days, but it sounds and looks like 70 will be plenty good!!
So, these banana-shaped male parts are actually the pollen sacks? The ones I've been plucking don't really seem to have anything inside of them... in fact they don't even seem hollow? Maybe I'm catching them pretty young and the pollen hasnt' fully formed inside (or they're less than normal potency since they're intersex).
copobo
04-11-2010, 10:36 AM
by the time those sacks are mature enough to drop pollen, it'll be too late for them to produce seed. only worry is if you are on perpetual harvest and leave them go extra long,. pollinating younger plants in the room.,
pfunk211
04-11-2010, 05:59 PM
i have a perpetual grow and have found one or two immature seeds scattered about, but i've picked male flowers off late-stage sour d, chiesel and white widow, and found exploded flowers that i missed on the sour d (sans the pollen trail i would expect to find from the flower) so who knows what's going on.
i can do without the chiesel and the white widow......
the sour d, however, can have all the tweezers time it needs.
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