My proof of mailing

[micjen]

When I got my referral I let the dispensary send out my papers. I have no proof of mailing because I ASSumed since they did it I was cool. So obviously I need to ask them for that but in the mean time I can't go to any other dispensaries?

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

ask them for it or you can switch. however on the health dept. website you are supposed to mail it yourself. confusion in the mmj arena is plentiful.

meded so you can mededicate to mededitate

[ThaiBuddhaMan]

...however on the health dept. website you are supposed to mail it yourself...

That is correct. You're supposed to mail it in yourself, and they make that very clear I think. Of course not everyone knows where to go to get the info. I guess some just go by whatever hearsay.

You know what happens when you Assume....makes an ASS outta U & ME

Good luck! :pimp:

[micjen]

Thanks guys - thing is, I did check out the health dept. website first and, again, ASSumed since they offered to do it I must have been mistaken when I thought I had to do it myself. So now what?

[ThaiBuddhaMan]

cross fingers I guess?

Some dispensaries don't ask for proof of mailing. If they do, tell them what happened or just go to another one. It's not like there is about 300 in the Denver area to check out. I would imagine there's a couple who don't care as long as you have a Doc's recommendation. Technically that's all thats required, it's voluntary to register with the State. I know guys who just have a letter from their Dr and it's what they carry around with them. Of course they don't visit many dispensaries so not sure how they works for them at those places.

[PufferLungs]

as long as you have a Doc's recommendation. Technically that's all thats required, it's voluntary to register with the State. I know guys who just have a letter from their Dr and it's what they carry around with them. Of course they don't visit many dispensaries so not sure how they works for them at those places.

Can you point me in the direction where I might find that written into the law/amendment?

I believe you, I'm not trying to be an a$$

I've been searching and I can't find anything official on the Colorado MMJ website indicating registration is voluntary.
:jointsmile:

[ThaiBuddhaMan]

No one can MAKE (does that somehow make it easier to read or something?) you register. It's only as a means to provide an easy way for law enforcement to verify your recommendation. Read the Constitution & the Revised Statues. It's all in legalise but it's plain as day in there. If you have a debilitating condition and a doctor's recommendation - no Colorado court is going to sentence to jail. Might rack up some legal fees, but you'll get off. The po-po might give you some headache, but you'll still get off. It's not the way I would go about things, but some people are paranoid about being on any registry any where any kind.

[TheReleafCenter]

The thing I've heard is best is to ask for a return receipt. This will show that the registry actually received what you sent.

[PufferLungs]

No one can MAKE (does that somehow make it easier to read or something?) you register. It's only as a means to provide an easy way for law enforcement to verify your recommendation. Read the Constitution & the Revised Statues. It's all in legalise but it's plain as day in there. If you have a debilitating condition and a doctor's recommendation - no Colorado court is going to sentence to jail. Might rack up some legal fees, but you'll get off. The po-po might give you some headache, but you'll still get off. It's not the way I would go about things, but some people are paranoid about being on any registry any where any kind.

No, I highlighted the part in my first post so that you would understand thats what my question was about. I've never heard this before and given that my application was rejected over some stupid penmanship issue (not my penmanship - the notary's penmanship) and a notary stamp - I'm a little pissed at the registry and if I can LEGALLY purchase/posses medicine without registering and giving the state my money just to be a patient - I'll do it. As far as I'm concerned, the registry can suck my sweaty ball sack. Can't believe they rejected my application because the notary signed my paperwork and accidentally wrote a little ink over her own damn stamp. :mad:

I still can't find it. Is it anyplace on this page? Any of the "legalise" on any of the links located on this page?
Colorado: Department of Public Health and Environment, Colorado Medical Marijuana Registry (http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/medicalmarijuana/)

Thanks
:jointsmile:

EDIT:
Here's the Constitution:
Colorado: Department of Public Health and Environment, Colorado Medical Marijuana Registry (http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/medicalmarijuana/amendment.html)

If you know a specific paragraph or section indicating registering is optional - please let me know. I'll print it out and carry it with me, along with my doctors prescription.

[CannnaLady]

Thanks guys - thing is, I did check out the health dept. website first and, again, ASSumed since they offered to do it I must have been mistaken when I thought I had to do it myself. So now what?

Can you go and get a reciept from the dispensary showing that you paid all the fees at least? I bet the dispensary put your return address-how could the registry tell if you didn't send it in? I wouldn't worry about it, but in the future I'd do it yourself :)

also-this BS about not having to mail in and pay your money to the state is crap. I know that some people have had problems-but if you are not paying the $90 then that's just going to be something that the "haters" bring up later-about how people go get a dr. recomendation and don't bother doing the rest of the legal matters. you may be able to get away with it, but it gives the already questionable industry a bad name when it emerges later. The "60 day" waiting time from the DR signiture was originally so that you could wait to get your card in. But the registry just hired a bunch of temp work, so the cards should be coming shortly. They are hoping with the revenue to hire more workers that are permanant.

[micjen]

Well thank you guys:) I don't know why I was being such an idiot about this but whatever. We will see how it works out.

[ThaiBuddhaMan]

Believe me. I wouldn't go that route as far as not registering. I think it's stupid not too, but it does not state in either the Constitution or the Statues that one MUST register. It only states how one goes about registering & why (for LE). Like I said just carrying a DR's recommendation is probably going to land you in court, but you'll get off.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend it.

[neversummer]

Dont really understand why proof of mailing is so important. Its just a reciept from the post office that could be from anything. It doesnt say on the reciept what you mailed. So you could go mail anything certified mail and keep the reciept, or just copy someone elses.

[Reenster]

Dont really understand why proof of mailing is so important. Its just a reciept from the post office that could be from anything. It doesnt say on the reciept what you mailed. So you could go mail anything certified mail and keep the reciept, or just copy someone elses.

Not exactly correct. The reciept is linked to the address you mailed it to. So yes, you could mail a blank envelope to the CDPHE but I doubt most people would bother. Granted a dispensary would have no way of knowing if the proof of reciept was actually to CDPHE unless they tracked it online, but it is to cover their ass that the patient has done everything according to hoyle.

There will always be methods of abuse in any system. This one is no different. Ofcourse, the more difficult they make getting "legal" the more chances their will be for fraud and abuse. The system is terrible now, and if the current bill passes in it's current state it will be worse. It will cost the patient, the state, and dispensaries more.

[TheReleafCenter]

Dont really understand why proof of mailing is so important. Its just a reciept from the post office that could be from anything. It doesnt say on the reciept what you mailed. So you could go mail anything certified mail and keep the reciept, or just copy someone elses.

This is why we don't require proof of mailing. :thumbsup:

[CannnaLady]

This is why we don't require proof of mailing. :thumbsup:

we don't either. but if you don't live in denver county then law enforcement is the one that has decided they need a proof of reciept. I hear all day long about how cops steal the satchels and give you a ticket toshow up to court. 95% of the time they show up in court and get off immedietly-though they don't get their medicine back. I've only heard from two people that showed up in court and the judge said to come back in three months with the red card otherwise they were going to treat it as if he never registered. so that's another thing to think about not paying the fee ;)

[TheReleafCenter]

I'd sue the crap out of them if that ever happened. According to our constitution, the burden falls on the state to approve/deny you within 30 days.

[copobo]

I got a denial for one of my patients 6 months after we sent it in because of a small technicality.

a funny side note... - I can notarize my own real estate transactions but not my own patient. (that wasn't what it was sent back for, just saying)

[mesinco]

copobo - you mention one of your patients getting rejected on technicality - then what happens? I am a 54 year old happy after all these years to finally be a legal user of medicinal herbs, hoping my app (in two months now) doesn't get snagged on some minor thing - but if so, then what happens? Does patient have to get doctor recommend all over? Can I re-sub original app with technicality corrected? Thanks for any info - just in case! You sound like you care about your patients alot - where are your services located?

[RockyMtnDezL]

You can get rejected forlots of stuff,wrong color ink being the most common, not sending your app and papers via certified mail...not just a stamp slapped on! Forgetting to include copy of id.The weirdest one...they sent of the COPIES of the Doc app in...rejected for wrong ink...WTF? Its a copy! I think the temps they hire to process the apps are smoking better than my patients. So a few folks have replaced the b&w copy in their send off kits for color copies instead. Not sure how it goes, being a caregiver is easier than a patient sometimes.