Pepurr Pot

[pepurr]

I thought I would make a picture chronicle of my grow because it is fun. :D Well, that is only part of it. One other big reason is, if any of you see something wrong, you can maybe tell me about it in time to avoid disaster.

These girls (I hope girls) are about 10 days old. I think the first days of their young life, they were not getting enough light. Also they were in back yard dirt. Now they are under better lighting and have what seems like good dirt to grow in. I can tell they are happier already. :thumbsup:

As they grow I'll keep posting pictures here.

Wish me luck. :hippy:

[demoreal]

whats up Pepurr!!!
I will subscribe to this thread and check out your grow.
Good Luck

[bigtopsfinn]

I'll be checking it out :jointsmile:

Isn't it going to be difficult to transplant with the shape of the blue container and the lip on the other?

Happy growing :)

[pepurr]

I'll be checking it out :jointsmile:

Isn't it going to be difficult to transplant with the shape of the blue container and the lip on the other?

Happy growing :)


Oops! :silly: Didn't think of that. I am a metal smith so I can get the lips of the containers off. It would have been easyer to do it before hand though.

Thanks for the heads up. :thumbsup:

[Weezard]

Aloha Pepurr

Might be a good idea to make some more drainage holes in the sides as well as the bottoms of those containers.
You will get better aeration for your roots.

Stagnant water will kill your kidz in a very short time.:(

Good luck.
Weezard

[pepurr]

I got a couple holes in there. I am being very carefull about watering. The soil is moist now, but not wet. I am trying to keep it so that if I stick my finger in the dirt about an inch, my finger don't come up wet, but moist soil will stick to my finger a little.

I don't want them to get root rot. I just hate it when my root rots. :wtf:

[Ocotillo]

I think you'd have an easier time with large cottage cheese containers since the top is bigger than the bottom. You could just cut the containers away when the time comes. Yes, you will need holes to for drainage.

[Ocotillo]

"chili P's my trade mark yo"! (Jesse Pinkman, AKA Jesse Jackson, AKA Diesel)

[pepurr]

I think you'd have an easier time with large cottage cheese containers since the top is bigger than the bottom. You could just cut the containers away when the time comes. Yes, you will need holes to for drainage.

Cottage cheese? Gross, yuck, puke....I hate that nasty stuff! :gunfighter2: The containers sound good though. I have holes, had them from the start.


"chili P's my trade mark yo"! (Jesse Pinkman, AKA Jesse Jackson, AKA Diesel)

I think "Pepurr Pot" will be my trade mark from now on. I am an artist, so now I got to use that to make a killer sign. :dance:

[pepurr]

Hopefully this will help speed up my grow.

I had to do something about that light. When they were in that north facing window they only got a couple hours of sun a day. Because of that, I made a grow room in my closet. The lights I had were 2 CFL's.
One 15W 2700k, and a 23W 2700k. They were a couple I had around the house. I don't know the lumens, but I am guessing 600 to 800.

After looking at pictures of others grows here,and paying attention to when the pictures were posted, I thought mine should have developed more than they are. :(

So on the way back from the VA today, I stopped at Walmart and found a 2 pack CFL, 6500K 20W 1150 lumens, for only $7.00.

I sure hope this helps. I have read that 6500K are better for the veg. time, and 2700 are better for the bud time.

I am wondering something though. Would there be any thing bad about having both the 2700K and the 6500K going at the same time? For now I only have the 6500K in there. Maybe all them lumens added would be an advantage. I don't know. If it would be even better to have both, I'll have to get another fixture.

One thing I do like about them CFL's is, I can buy a couple at a time as they are needed. :thumbsup:

[pepurr]

Here is an update on my humble grow.

They seem to be doing much better now. I have been giving them 24 hours a day of 6500K. They started going 24 hrs, 2 days ago.

The plant in the metal coffee can is doing the best. Seems to be growing twice as fast as the other. I can only guess as to why. Here is my guess:

1. Genetics
2. It was stressed less than the other during transplant.
3. One is male, the other female.

I sure hope they are both female. Hope in one hand and poop in the other, you know.

These came from a bunch of mixed seeds from bags I had bought in the past. I have no clue as to the strain. I recon they will have to grow more before that can be discerned.

[CovertCarpenter]

...but if you want a higher chance of 'em both turning out female, I'd switch 'em immediately to 18on/6off (total darkness for that 6, btw)... the 'dark' time is necessary for root development (so I've heard), and less stress on the plant means less reason to 'turn male'... (also, so I've heard)...

If you want to give the lil' ones the max play period you can, without stressing 'em too much, you could go 20on/4off, which still gives 'em a nice little nap.

I'm a big believer in CFLs for nifty cheapie growing setups. They can be had /almost/ anywhere, are available in the middle of the night, and have a decent lumens-to-watts ratio (tho a good High Output T-5 will smoke 'em {I just bought a SunMaster T5HO 4', for 39.95 from my dear friends at Grown Hydro in downtown TO that puts out 5022lumens in/@ 6400k})...

Another nice thing about the CFL concept is that you can pack 'em in quite tight, or use cheapie things as decent reflectors. I've used everything from catering trays to large Stainless Steel mixing bowls, with good effect. I particularly recommend the SSmb concept, cuz if you /lightly/ scuff 'em, the net reflector result to the plant is like the plant being in a dentist's chair, only moreso ;) I've seen some of my seedlings with their fan leaves up at 45 to 60 degree angles, leaping to the light... :jumphappy:

The same way you see some growers using both MH and HPS at the same time throughout the same grow, or using dual-arc bulbs for the same effect...

...you could be doing with alla your humble CFLs... so, as long as you have all the 6500k near there, the 2700k will pad the spectrum, and your plants should be happier. Get the lights as close as you can to the lil' rascals, tho. CFLs' main selling point is that they run nearly cold, and so you can get 'em to within 1-4 inches of the plant(s). As long as you can put your hand 'there' all day (only feeling a little warm), your plants will be happy 'there'. Try and get your 'daytime' temp to around 78f, though they won't quibble if it goes up to 82-83 as long as there's a bit of airflow.

If you really wanna hammer 'em good in flowering time, pick up a six-pack of 26w/100w equiv. GE 2700k 1750lumen puppies [only 19.97 up here at my local W@llM4rt]*, and replace all bulbs (and pack as many more in as you can) with the 2700k warm white, for 12on/12off (and the 12off in flowering HAS to be uninterrupted! If you must look at your 'garden' in 'nighttime', use a green bulb so that they don't notice...)...

Hope this helps!

(c)C :chainsaw:

*I'm planning on doing this at bloom time myself, with 12x2700k/26w hung around the edges of my garden whilst my 600w HPS pounds 'em from just above. I figger the extra lumens 'round the corners won't hurt, and the power cost is only 312w for 21000 extra 'warm' /red/ lumensssszzzz... mmmmm... lumenss...aahrghahghahargahrahg.... :smokin:

[raizla]

All the bagseed grows I've seen have turned out really great. It's all in how you take care of your plants. I'll 2nd CovertCarpenter's recommendation for the HO T5's. I'm doing my whole grow with T5's and I'm very pleased with the results so far.

[pepurr]

Thinks for all of your helpful advise guys. :thumbsup:

I sure would love to get all them High Output T-5's and stuff. Can't afford it though. Being disabled, I can barely afford the CFL's. Stupid SSD takes forever to kick in, so till then I got to make it on the super cheep. I'm looking around thrift stores now to find something for a couple $ to screw my CFL's into. I have an idea about that. :dance:

I'm looking for cheep table lamps. When I get them (cheep ones), I am going to take them apart. Then I can use the wires and fixtures, and throw out the rest. I will plug them into a power strip.

At this time the lil raskels are under 2 6500K CFL's. I got 2 2700K CFL's gathering dust because of a lack of anything to plug them into. I think I can get away with using only 2 bulbs for now, but in a short time they will have to have more. Lucky I can get the CFL's a few at a time, as I need them.

This can be an interesting (forced) experiment. To see how cheaply I can grow some dank bud. So far I have about $10 in it. $3 for potting soil and $7 for lights.

Through out this grow, I'll keep track of how much money I spend on it. Then when harvest time comes, we can check out how many dollars per ounce it is. :baggy: Hopefully dollars per ounce. It could turn out dollars per gram cause I don't even get a full ounce. Lord willing, that won't be the case.

I know I am not the only one who is short on cash. I'll take pic's of what I come up with 'doing it on the cheep'. :weedpoke:

[Shovelhandle]

Best of luck with getting your SSDI and hopefully a nice retroactive check.

Keep reading some of the other indoor grows here. Folks are doing wonderful, successful harvest with little more than what you've started with.

Shov

[pepurr]

I went to the hardware store and found some nifty light sockets that can plug into an outlet. I bought 2 of them for $4.90.

I already had a power strip so I screwed some CFL's into the sockets, then plugged them into the power strip. I think the power strip can hold one more. All I need to do now is make a reflector and find that darn extension cord. I know it's around here somewhere.

If you look at the attached pictures you can see what it looks like. After it is all set up I'll post a picture of the results.

$15.00 into the 'grow it on the cheep'.

[LetsSeeYa]

I went to the hardware store and found some nifty light sockets that can plug into an outlet. I bought 2 of them for $4.90.

I already had a power strip so I screwed some CFL's into the sockets, then plugged them into the power strip. I think the power strip can hold one more. All I need to do now is make a reflector and find that darn extension cord. I know it's around here somewhere.

If you look at the attached pictures you can see what it looks like. After it is all set up I'll post a picture of the results.

$15.00 into the 'grow it on the cheep'.

Thats great, but you will need more and il give you a cheaper way of putting a great light tighter:thumbsup: with pis:D

At wally mart they have hook lights. Get 1 and make sure its the small, not the large one. They are 7.99, then 4 26w cfl's. Now, get 3 y splitters. The reflector on the hook light slides off, then you put a y splitter in. Then you put 1 y splitter in each of the sockets of the first splitter. This gives you a light with a lot of watts. I used 11 bulbs, with 3 lights using different light spectrum's, not counting the lamp i sit near them. And by cutting the end and a space in the middle of a beer can like a window will work as a shade that fits a cfl perfect. But anyway you will want 250watts to get buds you will like. But its cheap. y splitters are 4 bucks. light 8.00. 4 cfls are different prices, as i bought 2 bulbs for 7.99 that took a month, the next month i bought 2 more. After ya got one set-up it would be 7,000 lumen w/26watters
and 104watts. Its recommended to have 5,000 lumen's per sq ft for best results. I got all my stuff as i needed it, so it was little to start up. I even used the same kinda soil, which is not advised. Problem is that every water, activates the nutes, which can burn the plant. Just keep er on the dry side:thumbsup:Oh and dont add nutes, because thats what i noticed that everyone who used them had problems. I didn't use any, till now but im re vegging them to bonsai. Look at my 10 indoor grow in my sig and you will have cheap step by step and you can avoid my mistakes:jointsmile:

I had a cash issue so i bought stuff little at a time. I used 279wattts at the end. But it was a killer grow. I got better quality weed and the yield was great.

Here is a couple of pics, cuz after i read this im not sure its very clear, or too clear.lol I like to put them in small pots, cuz when the roots get stretched out, the top growth comes on. Then i re pot, bigger an bigger. But this is out side, im not sure why i didn't as much indoors.

Here is a cheap set up. If ya can white paint works better then tin foil, but when i started, i used it too. But i could tell the difference when i switched.

Il be back man, good luck :rasta:

[pepurr]

That's a sweet set-up. I like the idea. Only problem is, for the hook light and the 3 'Y' splitters, we're talking $20.00. I'll maybe able to do it a little later.

If you read my other posts you will know, I don't have much money. Really, I am so poor, I can't even pay attention. So for me right now, $20 is a lot of money. I got to get equipment really, really cheep. I am scrounging what I can find around the house, and what I can borrow.

I might be able to put together a cool set-up like that. I'll have to get the stuff little by little, but that is not a problem. Like I said before, I can get stuff as my raskels grow. Just hope I can keep up.

Keep the ideas coming though. I get all kinds of ideas from you guys, and it helps.

Hate being so cheep. I'm not used to it. I'm used to getting just about anything I want, when I want.
(:twocents: <====How much money I got.)

[LetsSeeYa]

That's a sweet set-up. I like the idea. Only problem is, for the hook light and the 3 'Y' splitters, we're talking $20.00. I'll maybe able to do it a little later.

If you read my other posts you will know, I don't have much money. Really, I am so poor, I can't even pay attention. So for me right now, $20 is a lot of money. I got to get equipment really, really cheep. I am scrounging what I can find around the house, and what I can borrow.

I might be able to put together a cool set-up like that. I'll have to get the stuff little by little, but that is not a problem. Like I said before, I can get stuff as my raskels grow. Just hope I can keep up.

Keep the ideas coming though. I get all kinds of ideas from you guys, and it helps.

Hate being so cheep. I'm not used to it. I'm used to getting just about anything I want, when I want.
(:twocents: <====How much money I got.)

No, no i understand what your saying. Your doing just what i did and in the end, thats what i have. I was buying 2 cfl's a month till i had enough and you only need 2 to get your plant started. The next month i got the hook light for 8 bucks at wally world, with 3 y splitters for 5 bucks. So 13 bucks, now just add 4 cfl's and you got a killer light. You wont need them till next month, but just pick up a piece here an there. I did it the same way man, but now i dont pay for weed:hippy:

:rasta:

[Shovelhandle]

I bought a four lamp 4' T5 HO luminaire with lamps for $40 on ebay (new in the box). So, save your coins and keep your eyes open for a good deal.

Shov

[EvilCartman]

That's a sweet set-up. I like the idea. Only problem is, for the hook light and the 3 'Y' splitters, we're talking $20.00. I'll maybe able to do it a little later.

If you read my other posts you will know, I don't have much money. Really, I am so poor, I can't even pay attention. So for me right now, $20 is a lot of money. I got to get equipment really, really cheep. I am scrounging what I can find around the house, and what I can borrow.

Hey pepurr,

Just figured I'd toss this out there. I got a few "Y" splitters just collecting dust. If you want 'em, they're yours. Rep me with a mailing address and I'll gladly post 'em out your way.

[pepurr]

Thanks for the thought, EvilCartman.

A couple times you nice people have offered to help out by sending me this or that. It makes me feel good about my fellow human being. :thumbsup:

I have given considerable thought to the idea of sending my mailing address to people who wish to help me, and come to this policy concerning that. :sorry1:

Even though there are many good people out there in cyber land, there are a few bad apples. Given that, and the nature of what we are doing, I am going to have to decline. This is in no way a reflection on you or any individual member of this forum. It is merely a safety precaution. :tin foil hat:

Thanks for your kind offer. Hey! You're not so evil after all. :hippy:

[EvilCartman]

Thanks for the thought, EvilCartman.

I have given considerable thought to the idea of sending my mailing address to people who wish to help me, and come to this policy concerning that. :sorry1:

This is in no way a reflection on you or any individual member of this forum. It is merely a safety precaution. :tin foil hat:

Understood. :thumbsup:

BTW, the power strips with the plug-in sockets are a good way to pack in the bulbs tightly. I was able to cram 8 of the 26w CFLs into the 12"x12" area at the top of my "Boy Box" using that method, worked out quite well.

I wish you well! I'll be sitting in the corner, quietly paying attention. :)

[CovertCarpenter]

Ya mon! Way to go wit' the CFL...

110 meter(metre)s per side, not 100 yards...
less guys per side...
3 downs insted'a 4...

WHOOPS! wrong one~!

/your/ CFL(s)etup /rocks/, mon!

lesse...
8x26w=208w, mice nuts :)
8x1600lum=12800, if ya do it right :D
great idea with the plugins, mon, even cheaper than what I just picked up @wally!

REP+

(c)C :chainsaw:

[LetsSeeYa]

lesse...
8x26w=208w, mice nuts :)
8x1600lum=12800, if ya do it right :D
great idea with the plugins, mon, even cheaper than what I just picked up @wally!

REP+

(c)C :chainsaw:

Man i was doing the math for one light, so 26x4-104
Also, the lights said 1750 lumen's for the 26 watt cfl, so 1750x4= 7,000

But cfl's lose lumen's as the light is not right on the plant. In the lighting section it says that cfl's are 69.9 lumens per watt:D

:rasta:

[pepurr]

Hey all,

Was going to wait till Sunday to post pics, but figured, What the heck.

I made a grow box. It has two CFL's in it and a computer case fan. To power the fan, I am using the charger from my electric shaver. :D

That one plant that I was worried about got worse, then seemed to level out. There seems to still be life in it, so I will keep caring for it. :weedpoke:

I am happy with the progress made in 5 days by my best one. :greenthumb:

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey all,

Was going to wait till Sunday to post pics, but figured, What the heck.

I made a grow box. It has two CFL's in it and a computer case fan. To power the fan, I am using the charger from my electric shaver. :D

That one plant that I was worried about got worse, then seemed to level out. There seems to still be life in it, so I will keep caring for it. :weedpoke:

I am happy with the progress made in 5 days by my best one. :greenthumb:

Nice set-up man:hippy:I have heard you can run those fans with an old phone charger. If you can get a fan like you have, you could have an intake and one that blows air, so perfect air flow. Because if you add 2 splitters and add cfl's, you could flower right in that box, but with more light.

Great set up:rasta:

[pepurr]

It has been a while, and a lot has gone on. Mainly new equipment and more sprouts.

When My income tax return came in I bought 2 each, 2' fixtures, and 2 each, 2' 3500k, and 2 each, 2' 6500k floresent tubes. Now my plants are getting that plus the two 6500K CFL's I already had. It looks like the totel lumens are 7600.

When they get bigger I will add the other two 2700k CFL's I got. I think it will need more later. When I add the remaining two CFL's, I got about 10000 lumens. Enough for the grow till finish? You tell me. I got my doubts.

Also I took a bunch of my bag seeds and planted them. Seems it was a good thing to do because a couple of them are freaking so good.

If you look at picture (2nd row, 1st pic), you will see the ones that have grown best. They are 9 days old and have huge leaves (twice as big), compaired to any of the others.

The last pic is one about a month old. I think it was over-watered early on. The soil I used had that moisture control in it, and that made it hard for me to get used to it. The lil trooper keeps hanging in there any way, so I'll let it live as long as it don't turn out male.

[pepurr]

Here is some updated pics for you, :hippy:

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Lil more

[pepurr]

Changed things around some. I think I have my lights set up for optamum use now. Picked out one of the ones thet were left to be transplanted and killed the rest. "Droopy" made the cut. Now it is "Droopy" and "Indica Maybe" remaining.

Droopy puzzles me. It gets water, but not to much. About the same as "Indica Maybe". I let the water come out the bottom of the pot, then I stop. It still likes to be droopy. It will be fun to see what happens in the next 4 or 5 weeks.

Here's some pics.

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last ones

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Here it is day 25 of the grow. I was going to wait till Tuesday to post pics because then they will be a full month old. There is a concern with one plant so I post early looking for input.

On the Indica Maybe, the lower leaves are getting discolored on the tips and edges that turns into dead areas. The first 2 baby leaves have completely died. Maybe that is normal due to its age. Look at the first pic and you will see the problem.

Droopy hasn't had this problem. Please don't tell me it looks like Droopy needs water. It gets the same as the other. I believe its droopiness is just a trait of that one plant. Droopy is the one I seen what looks like the start of flowering. Tiny little nubs, but they are in the right place. I'll know more later.

Sorry for the poor quality of the pictures. I am using my lap top camera.

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[THContent]

Hey pep, I was just reading your grow log man, you are doing pretty well on the budget your running. I did notice though that you asked if the discoloration was in any way normal, it is not. It looks to me like you may need to invest in a better soil right away. The lower leaves are showing sign that you may have a nitrogen problem since that is where the leaves do not look good, and the color is not right. You might also have a calcium issue but that is debatable.

There is no question now though that you need to spend a little now to keep your babies in good health if you want them to get big and strong, you will need a better medium for them to grow in.

I recommend using Fox Farms Organic Ocean Forest mix, it is relatively inexpensive if you buy it online ( I got mine on Amazon ) for roughly $8.95 for a bag. And it will last throughout your entire grow. I do NOT recommend Miracle Grow, for roses it's one thing, for this it is just too much and it will burn your plants horribly.

If online is not an option for you, check out your local nusery for organic soil mixes, look at their plants, are they flourishing, do they use perlite, make sure you look for these characteristics when choosing soil from local nursey's, if the people have all of their plants in good health, chances are you will too by using whatever they use. Which I can guarantee you, will not be miracle grow.

But nonetheless, get them a better medium right away, waiting too long and it might become too late. After transplanting, you will see signs within a week or so that they are doing alot better with alot of new growth, the areas already affected by nutrient loss look like they are done for, at the very bottom, you can still save what you have though so get your ass looking for new soil before its too late :p

I have confidence that you'll do just fine :thumbsup:

[MadSativa]

looks good, a thought; maybe the droopy ness and the yellow leaves are related. I would think about transplanting at this time to bigger pots. everything looks good, assuming they have the correct nutes then maybe they just need more room.
Also they are big, in the end they double size if not way more so if your flowering room is big then go for it but if not start thinking about the space caseu when you put them into flowering the roots begein to stop growing and the buds and the plant start to grow more. a plant that big needs a big pot maybe 3 gallon.

[CovertCarpenter]

...I agree with the budget comment, and am kinda walking that path mesef. I really think that the main advantage of Flourescents is that they put out way less heat (but still a bit!), which lets you get 'em RIGHT close to the plant, thereby wasting less lumenenenen..

The yellow/droop thing really sounds like a replant is needed for the dear plant, and try to gently open up the root ball a bit, if you can.

Looking pretty good tho! [Power to the pepurr! couldn't resist ;)]

[CovertCarpenter]

{crappy net connection sometimes means inadvertent double post; please forgive}

...I agree with the budget comment, and am kinda walking that path mesef. I really think that the main advantage of Flourescents is that they put out way less heat (but still a bit!), which lets you get 'em RIGHT close to the plant, thereby wasting less lumenenenen..

The yellow/droop thing really sounds like a replant is needed for the dear plant, and try to gently open up the root ball a bit, if you can.

Looking pretty good tho! [Power to the pepurr! couldn't resist ;)]

[pepurr]

I flushed out the soil with 2 gal. tap water. Tap water had set out for 3 days. I did notice that some of the little green fertilizer balls in the soil had burst/flattened.

I doubt I will use pre-fertilized soil again. I don't like not having control. With pre-fertilized soil there is no control of the nutrients. They may have a good proportion of basic nutrients, but while the plants are young this may be to rich.

The other plant I call Droopy has the slightest hint of burn on the tips of the lower leafs. Otherwise, it is growing bushy and thick. It being in the same type of soil makes be believe some plants may be more tolerant of these soil conditions.

I included some pictures of the bottom leafs. While I was pouring in the water, my hand brushed one of the leafs. It promptly fell off.:wtf3:

[CovertCarpenter]

I flushed out the soil with 2 gal. tap water. Tap water had...

I doubt I will...

The other plant I call Droopy has the slightest hint of burn on the tips of the lower leafs. Otherwise, it is growing bushy and thick. It being in the same type of soil makes be believe some plants may be more tolerant of these soil conditions.

I included some pictures of the bottom leafs. While I was pouring in the water, my hand brushed one of the leafs. It promptly fell off.:wtf3:

Just a thot, pepurr, but it might just want a bit more water. If it was only fan leaves that fell off, and looked yellow/burnt, I would suspect she was thirsty. I've had the unfortunate fact to deal with mesef of late...

Trim the truly burnt/yellow ones, and make sure she gets fed, and a bit of SuperThr!ve could be of use in a foliar spray...

I'd say they still look frisky...!

[pepurr]

Here is the 4 week mark for my grow.

I did cut off the affected leafs. I will try waterng twice a week and see how it goes. The soil drains extreamly well. I have to dig down 3 or 4 inches to get moist soil, and then it isn't very moist at all.

Sometimes I think "Indica Maybe" has screwy genitics. Look at the pic with an arrow pointing to a long branch. It shoot out there, leaving the others behind. None of them are the same length. Not even close.

Droopy hasn't this problem. You can't see them because the leafs droop and it is thick, but all the secondarys on it are nice and even. Growing nicely too.

Anyway, here are the pictures.

Edit: I almost forgot. The "Indica Maybe" Come out with its 1st staggered node. Maybe time to go 12/12. Maybe I should wait. What would you do?

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[THContent]

It's looking good pepurr, alot better than the smaller containers. Did you add nutes/new soil? The plants look alot happier now.

[pepurr]

It's looking good pepurr, alot better than the smaller containers. Did you add nutes/new soil? The plants look alot happier now.

Didn't do anything to them except flush the soil in the Indica Maybe plant. I'm tapped out. Can't afford any more things for this grow.

I think they are looking ok too. Haven't seen any more progression of the leaf burn.

I think the Indica Maybe is just a brat. Droopy hasn't given me any problems so far. Indica Maybe, on the other hand is being troublesome. I guess one never knows what will come up with bag seeds.

[CovertCarpenter]

...good thing my hydro shop guy has let me run a wee tab (which I'm paying down as my meagre circumstances permit).

Droopy might just be that way naturally. I wouldn't worry too much as long as the leaves are nice and green, and thick (which they appear to be).

Are you going to try LST with them this time? (and are these staying indoors or going out at some point?)

[looking pretty good from 'ere, mon!]

[deserthealer]

Pepurr, if you were only watering once a week, lack of water probably was one of the reasons for dropping leaves. Weeds grow better with lots of water. :) ... I think you should let them grow some more before you cut down on their hours of light, but it's your grow. (If you want to get in touch, I could pass along some pH strips to you.)

I'm going to try attaching a pic of one of my babies, which I think looks alot like your mystery plant. If I'm successful, tell me if you agree. ... Sorry, photo will have to wait. Having a prob with file size.

[deserthealer]

I violated message board policy by offering something.
sorry - i take it back. :wtf:

[pepurr]

...good thing my hydro shop guy has let me run a wee tab (which I'm paying down as my meagre circumstances permit).

Droopy might just be that way naturally. I wouldn't worry too much as long as the leaves are nice and green, and thick (which they appear to be).

Are you going to try LST with them this time? (and are these staying indoors or going out at some point?)

[looking pretty good from 'ere, mon!]

Droopy was droopy every sense she was a wee lass. Even after she gets water, she only looses a little droopiness. I think it is because she is sad. You see, she is an orphan. She never had the chance to meet her parents or get to know them. When she was just a baby she was ripped from her mother's arms, and smuggled thousands of miles from her home. That's when I met her. She looked so cute, with her red hair and all. I couldn't just leave her to languish inside a plastic bag. :yeahright:

I had thought of LST and Topping. For this grow, I decided to not do any of that. I don't want to take any chance, no matter how small, of screwing this up. Then on the next grow I'll experiment with one of them.

I'm a bit of an old timer, I guess. Back in my younger days, we never heard of LST or Topping. We would get a few bags of Black Cow, some soil, and then make a grow deep in the forests of North East Florida. They grew tall and fast in that hot, humid Florida sunshine. Good smoke too. Not as powerful as some I see now days, but still worth while.

They have to stay indoors the entire grow. I would love to put them outside for some natural light, but there isn't any good spot, out of sight, to do that round here.


Pepurr, if you were only watering once a week, lack of water probably was one of the reasons for dropping leaves. Weeds grow better with lots of water. :) ... I think you should let them grow some more before you cut down on their hours of light, but it's your grow. (If you want to get in touch, I could pass along some pH strips to you.)

I'm going to try attaching a pic of one of my babies, which I think looks alot like your mystery plant. If I'm successful, tell me if you agree. ... Sorry, photo will have to wait. Having a prob with file size.

Maybe I'm being too couscous about watering. Like I said, I don't want to take any chance of screwing this up. I've read over watering will kill a plant faster than under watering. So I err on the side of caution.

I am going to let them both have more water though. After observing how the soil drains and how long it takes to dry out, I think it wouldn't hurt.

Thinks for the offer of the ph strips. When I first starting posting to this board, I decided to never divulge my exact location, or meet people in person, from the forum. Even though sometimes I would want to, I feel safer not. :rastasmoke:

[rikb631]

i know poland springs water has a good natural PH for growing. just a thought, it cost me about $3 a week to use it... i have to though cause the tap water PH where i live in around 11 so i figure its easier just to buy the spring water.

[MadSativa]

definite indica ,nice

[pepurr]

I like putting pictures from different dates together. It really gives me a good visual of my plants progress. Not only that, it is fun too.

Here are some that shows progress from 9 days of growth.

@MadSativa: Cool beans! I kind of thought is was Indica, or an Indica dominant cross. Perhaps I need to change its name from 'Indica Maybe' to 'Indica Yeah Baby'.

What about the other one, Droopy? It don't look like any Sativa or Indica I ever seen.

@rikb631: Funny you mention that. I was reading some posts yesterday about the ph of different bottled water. Looks like it is very a worth while venture.

[pepurr]

Day 35 of grow progress.

[pepurr]

and then

[pepurr]

and then, and then

[pepurr]

and then, and then, and then

[pepurr]

and then, and then, and then, and then

[pepurr]

and then, and then, and then, and then, and then

[pepurr]

No more and then,

[pepurr]

I think I may do this each week, unless it becomes to big.

15 days progress diff.

[COOLWHIP]

They look a little droopy u may want to wait an extra day before watering, to see if they perk back up after the next watering

[pepurr]

They look a little droopy u may want to wait an extra day before watering, to see if they perk back up after the next watering

One of them is indeed droopy. Check the older posts and you will find it has been droopy all along. I had them on a once a week watering, but changed it to two times a week. The soil they are in drains very well. Watering 2 times a week effected the droopy one very little. They both were watered yesterday.

I think the droopyness of that one is an expression of its phenotype. In fact Droopy is much bushier than the other.

I used to worry about that one's droopieness, but no longer.

Thanks for the input. :thumbsup:

[CovertCarpenter]

Droopy was droopy every sense she was a wee lass. Even after she gets water, she only looses a little droopiness. I think it is because she is sad. You see, she is an orphan. She never had the chance to meet her parents or get to know them. When she was just a baby she was ripped from her mother's arms, and smuggled thousands of miles from her home. That's when I met her. She looked so cute, with her red hair and all. I couldn't just leave her to languish inside a plastic bag. :yeahright:

Aww, pepurr, don't make me cry... :(


I had thought of LST and Topping. For this grow, I decided to not do any of that. I don't want to take any chance, no matter how small, of screwing this up. Then on the next grow I'll experiment with one of them.

The first time you bend a plant 90 degrees sideways, and tie it with string, are some of the Scariest Moments In Horticulture that one ever experiences. It is in some ways like deliberate abuse, but it isn't, as long as one does it gently (and with consent..?) ;)

It's actually easier than you think on the plants, and easier than you think, to do... and when one sees multiple tops coming out of a healthy main stalk that one has to basically chase around the pot...


I'm a bit of an old timer, I guess. Back in my younger days, we never heard of LST or Topping. We would get a few bags of Black Cow, some soil, and then make a grow deep in the forests of North East Florida. They grew tall and fast in that hot, humid Florida sunshine. Good smoke too. Not as powerful as some I see now days, but still worth while.

oOOH, that musta bin sum gooooood, stanky stuph...


They have to stay indoors the entire grow. I would love to put them outside for some natural light, but there isn't any good spot, out of sight, to do that round here.

I hear that. Keep dem lumens up, mon! Your stuph looks good, and you have a sense of style :cool:

[MadSativa]

by chance is the temp ever going above 75f?

[pepurr]

by chance is the temp ever going above 75f?

Probably is. I don't have a thermometer so it is hard to tell outside of guessing. I do have a little computer case fan blowing in there. Looking for a fan that will suit my needs better, but is has to be so cheep it is practically free.:D

Think my leafs turning may be due to heat stress? It only happens to one plant.

I think they may get warmer today. My sister has been over all day flirting with my house mate. :s3:I'm afraid to open the closet, because I know she will walk in here and wonder why all the light coming out of there. Maybe I'll open it for a little.

[rikb631]

i know your low budget like i am, but i got my digital thermometer/ humidity guage at wally world for $4 prolly a wise investmet pep.

[pepurr]

Thanks for the tip. Now all I have to do is collect $4 worth of soda cans. :D

[bubadutep75]

Whats up Pepurr, looking good man. I have learned that if you cut the bad spots off the leaves, even if it means cutting leaves in half with alcohol sterilized scissors it stops the spread of damage and promotes new growth as long as you are giving it the right nutes and the ph is good.

I am a disabled vet and too have a tight budget but you would be surprised what you can find at garage sales, also I supplement my income by selling stuff on ebay, you can get rid of a bunch of crap you have just laying around the house and make enough money to get a really good setup. My last ebay sale I bought a 400 watt hps light and ballast on ebay. just an idea, keep up the good work.

[xsnoder]

Looking good brother.:thumbsup:

[emcnpk]

Don't knock the Miracle Grow! The only shitty thing to me is the chunks of wood in it... I just sift mine. I don't think 0.21% Nitrogen content would burn anything but a seedling (primarily since it's mostly time-released over a period of a couple months). Shipping on that "good shit" for people that don't have it locally available can become OUTRAGEOUS. I have a friend in the States that can only get perlite 1 month out of the year. Something to think about. :pimp:

This plant is 5 1/2 weeks old. 100% Miracle Grow potting soil. Nothing mixed in.