First time grow (very belated thread) haivng problems HELP

[harry939]

Hey got my first time grow going with one bubble gum and two scrogged trainwrecks 34 days into bud. bubblegum has had little to no problems where as the trainwreck has had an almost constant spider mite problem

I have a closet setup about 3' wide by 8' long where at the moment i have the three plants in bud under a t5 4 bulb 4 foot light

Im using fox farms ocean forest mix with humboldt nutrient grow and humboldt nutrient bloom as well as humbolt nutrient duece duece

the lights are 3-5 inches from the plants

got the clippings from a friend had them in veg for a little under a month and put them in bud on february 26th plants are currently in 3 gal pots.

Trainwreck has had a might problem. sprayed with azamax and got rid of them for a long period of time. since then they have returned and ive used BONIDE MITE X spray to attempt to get rid of them. most recently sprayed them on monday march 29th. almost all of the old growth has the white spots and i noticed them showing up on the new growth as well.

HELP ME (pics in a few minutes):rastasmoke:

[harry939]

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[harry939]

WHITE SPOTSSS!!!! first three are bubblegum the last four are all trainwreck with the last two emphasizing the white spots

[harry939]

ANY HELP MUCH APPRECIATED

[harry939]

any advice? also with the yellow and brown leafs on the bubblegum? :thumbsup:

[raizla]

Have you looked into neem oil? I know some people love it, and it gets rid of some pests (though it takes time). I'm not sure if it's for spider mites or not.

[harry939]

the hydro store next to my house had neem oil but said its not as effective as azamax and has a horrible smell thanks though:thumbsup:. any idea about yellow and brown leafs on the bubblegum?

[harry939]

sprayed them yesterday morning with mite x. have a bottle of azamax mixed up for monday and wednesday crossing my fingers that these jerks will die :thumbsup:

[ForgetClassC]

Isopropyl alcohol works great, do a 50-50 mix of 99% with water and spray the undersides of the leaves. It dissolves the mites.

-C

[bigtopsfinn]

Looks like you burned the bubblegum with too much nutrients. Have you checked the run-off ph? How long have they been in the same soil? Might be better to start a new thread in the plant problems section. Use the copy-and-paste troubleshooting form + pics :thumbsup:

[harry939]

put up a thread in the plants problem section a while ago with no responses :( ill give the ph a test they were transferred recently so the soil is very new. ive cut pack on the nutrients hopefully everything starts to look better :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

you want to get rid of those mites?

go get a HOT SHOT NO PEST STRIP :thumbsup:

place it front of a fan blowing onto your plants and it will kill them and any eggs that hatch in 10 days or less!

just dont freak out when you read the label....the plant does not absorb the active ingredient that kills them and if it is in your closet keep the doors shut on it and you mites will be gone...no sprays...gauranteed to work! :jointsmile:

without it you will always have a mite problem eggs drop into the carpet and hatch and the cycle never ends! :thumbsup:

[harry939]

you want to get rid of those mites?

go get a HOT SHOT NO PEST STRIP :thumbsup:

place it front of a fan blowing onto your plants and it will kill them and any eggs that hatch in 10 days or less!

just dont freak out when you read the label....the plant does not absorb the active ingredient that kills them and if it is in your closet keep the doors shut on it and you mites will be gone...no sprays...gauranteed to work! :jointsmile:

without it you will always have a mite problem eggs drop into the carpet and hatch and the cycle never ends! :thumbsup:

lol im already scared! does the label just say the plants absorb it? ive been spraying basically the entire room every time. none the less where the hell can i get these? plant nurserys etc? or a hydro shop? thanks for the good solution :rastasmoke:

[harry939]

just looked it up looks perfect thanks :thumbsup:

[bigtopsfinn]

put up a thread in the plants problem section a while ago with no responses :( ill give the ph a test they were transferred recently so the soil is very new. ive cut pack on the nutrients hopefully everything starts to look better :thumbsup:

Yup found it. Most of the people helping out in that section don't feel like asking for the necessary info to help you. You gotta do your part and provide the info. Anyways there are a ton of threads about spider mites around here, it just take a little searching and reading. I think Stra8's got your answer for that. But if you want help with the bubblegum, fill out the troubleshooting form in your old post or here once you get the ph measured.

Happy growing :jointsmile:

[StickyBuds1987]

well man besides the bug prob and the nute burns your buds look extra frostie :thumbsup::jointsmile:

[pepurr]

What about lady bugs? Will they eat the mites, and eat enough of them to be worth while?

Maybe that would be a good solution for them who don't like to use chemicals.

[jim226]

Isopropyl alcohol works great, do a 50-50 mix of 99% with water and spray the undersides of the leaves. It dissolves the mites.

-C

sorry but im a first time grow by what do you mean change out the soil with each grow

[jim226]

Yup found it. Most of the people helping out in that section don't feel like asking for the necessary info to help you. You gotta do your part and provide the info. Anyways there are a ton of threads about spider mites around here, it just take a little searching and reading. I think Stra8's got your answer for that. But if you want help with the bubblegum, fill out the troubleshooting form in your old post or here once you get the ph measured.

Happy growing :jointsmile:

i want to grow regular old marijuana plant with ,no nutrients
How many times should i put in new soil in marijuana cycle of life? also can plant grow without adding any extra nutrients can i just use potting soil.

[harry939]

What about lady bugs? Will they eat the mites, and eat enough of them to be worth while?

Maybe that would be a good solution for them who don't like to use chemicals.

i looked into that. im in the pacific northwest and seriously could not find any lady bugs. on top of that i live in a small apartment and fear what happens when the bugs are full/out of mites to eat. i just sprayed them down again with azamax and am going out to buy that strip at some point today. but if all else fails i think im going to intensify my lady bug search :thumbsup:

[harry939]

well man besides the bug prob and the nute burns your buds look extra frostie :thumbsup::jointsmile:


thank you kindly im cutting back the nuties on her today :thumbsup: got a 30x lens and havent stopped looking at the frostieness since haha:rastasmoke:

[harry939]

Yup found it. Most of the people helping out in that section don't feel like asking for the necessary info to help you. You gotta do your part and provide the info. Anyways there are a ton of threads about spider mites around here, it just take a little searching and reading. I think Stra8's got your answer for that. But if you want help with the bubblegum, fill out the troubleshooting form in your old post or here once you get the ph measured.

Happy growing :jointsmile:

thanks sorry about the lack of info i completely missed the troubleshooting form! im working on getting the right info to fill it out.

[harry939]

sorry but im a first time grow by what do you mean change out the soil with each grow

get your own thread, thread stealer! hahaha no but really start your own grow log or something you got me all excited thinking i got 3 or 4 new posts:rastasmoke:

[pepurr]

i looked into that. im in the pacific northwest and seriously could not find any lady bugs. on top of that i live in a small apartment and fear what happens when the bugs are full/out of mites to eat. i just sprayed them down again with azamax and am going out to buy that strip at some point today. but if all else fails i think im going to intensify my lady bug search :thumbsup:

Once I was driving around in the mountains around Big Bear. I had to stop and hit the woods because of an overwhelming urge. After I got done with business, I turned around and seen like millions of lady bugs at the base of a tree. I scooped up a hand full with my bare hand. It was cool.

They don't bite. They are one of the coolest bugs around.

I told them that their house was on fire and their children were all alone, but they didn't believe me. :D

Back to reality now. I would like to try them out. I doubt they can do any damage to a home or person. I know they are great on aphids. If they like spider mites, they will be my best bug friend. :cool:

[harry939]

Once I was driving around in the mountains around Big Bear. I had to stop and hit the woods because of an overwhelming urge. After I got done with business, I turned around and seen like millions of lady bugs at the base of a tree. I scooped up a hand full with my bare hand. It was cool.

They don't bite. They are one of the coolest bugs around.

I told them that their house was on fire and their children were all alone, but they didn't believe me. :D

Back to reality now. I would like to try them out. I doubt they can do any damage to a home or person. I know they are great on aphids. If they like spider mites, they will be my best bug friend. :cool:

hahahahaha great story. i live around highly wooded area and i must have spent 4 hours to this point exploring and searching for lady bugs with no success :( they were actually my first choice but they have alluded me to this point

[stra8outtaWeed]

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lady bugs....$7.95 plus shipping...1500 :thumbsup:

[harry939]

American Agriculture - Product Details (http://www.americanag.com/proddetail.php?prod=IN200)

lady bugs....$7.95 plus shipping...1500 :thumbsup:

YES! your the boss stra8 i literally would have never looked online to buy lady bugs. so in your professional opinion (cause ive been checking out your LED grows and have dubbed you a pro:rastasmoke:) should i go ahead and order those babys or just go for that strip?

[pepurr]

American Agriculture - Product Details (http://www.americanag.com/proddetail.php?prod=IN200)

lady bugs....$7.95 plus shipping...1500 :thumbsup:

Hey! Thanks for the link. That's like 1/2 cent per bug. For that price I could have enough left over to throw a lady bug party. :rastabanna:

[stra8outtaWeed]

i use the no pest strip...lasts for 4 months and i mark my calendar! i will not spray anything on my plants but a neem/Dutch master penetrator mix during veg ...i have the Azamax...and i used it to get rid of fungus gnats..so it is really good stuff...but only used it to water in the soil as even gnatrol didn't even phase those little suckers...my room is fairly pest free keeping a change of the pest strip every four months...if i get pests its becasuse i forgot to change out the strip :stoned:

and thanks for the kind words :D

[harry939]

i use the no pest strip...lasts for 4 months and i mark my calendar! i will not spray anything on my plants but a neem/Dutch master penetrator mix during veg ...i have the Azamax...and i used it to get rid of fungus gnats..so it is really good stuff...but only used it to water in the soil as even gnatrol didn't even phase those little suckers...my room is fairly pest free keeping a change of the pest strip every four months...if i get pests its becasuse i forgot to change out the strip :stoned:

and thanks for the kind words :D

grow strip it is. so no negative affects on buds? i have my fan blowing straight onto the rapidly maturing bubblegum should i still put it in front of the fan? or just pop it behind the two scroged trainwrecks?

sorry for the pestering but its my first time and by some miracle of god (or science) the bubblegum is looking nice and i dont want to screw up my lucky streak :rasta:

and np. those LED's look amazing im already saving up :smokin:

[stra8outtaWeed]

none...and if you read the warning label it is sounds like 3 mile island...that is why i said to keep the closet door closed on it...if you are sleeping in the same room you might be better off with the lady bugs as my grow room is a separate building from my house...so just to be safe..look at both options...i don't reccomend being in a room breathing those long term with out proper ventalation...that plants do not absorb the active ingredient though :thumbsup:

[harry939]

im in the same room and the closet doors dont exactly seal shut but i have a fan in there a nice big open window in the room and a vent going in the laundry room (a few steps from the closet) i hope i dont die trying to save their lifes :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

you should be fine...the warning label is so somebody doesn't use it as a breath mint ...as long as you have good vetalation and some fresh air you are fine :jointsmile:

[harry939]

lady friend is picking one up right now:thumbsup: new high def pics coming soon. trainwreck has 100% more resin then last night. bubblegum is getting better pretty much cut its nutis in half gave it 5ml/gal humbolt bloom 1ml/gal duece duece instead of the 10-2 that the trainwrecks are getting

[harry939]

its up. one last question. i usually turn the fan off at night should i keep it on or leave it off?

[stra8outtaWeed]

do things the same way you have been...as long as the fan blows circulating the NPS through the plants during lights on it will work fine...and it will kill the eggs that have fallen into the carpet....that is why just spraying won't work:thumbsup:

[harry939]

perfect thanks for all your help :thumbsup: im sure ill be asking for more help once i get my leds:rastasmoke:

[Gare0440]

:joint1:

[Gare0440]

lady friend is picking one up right now new high def pics coming soon. trainwreck has 100% more resin then last night. bubblegum is getting better pretty much cut its nutis in half gave it 5ml/gal humbolt bloom 1ml/gal duece duece instead of the 10-2 that the trainwrecks are gettin

100% resin nice shit man where'd you get that strain? seed bank? plants look pretty nice like a cross between osamas beard and double bubble Delicious chewing gum:pimp::chainsaw::admin1:

[Shovelhandle]

I love growing/smoking bubblegum and yours look lovely. Best of luck for a flying finish!

Shovelhandle

[harry939]

I love growing/smoking bubblegum and yours look lovely. Best of luck for a flying finish!

Shovelhandle

thanks :thumbsup: any bubblegum advice for me?

[harry939]

100% resin nice shit man where'd you get that strain? seed bank? plants look pretty nice like a cross between osamas beard and double bubble Delicious chewing gum:pimp::chainsaw::admin1:

you know the answer to that question! get that wire im tryna see those babies on a real camera:thumbsup: :joint1:

[harry939]

please say that worked

[harry939]

yesssss. first three are bubblegum then trainwreck and pest strip:thumbsup: then four trainwreck with a bubblegum cap at the end enjoy:rastasmoke:

[harry939]

whoops that first blurry one was meant to be this

[harry939]

a few more

[harry939]

this is all day 40 btw

[Gare0440]

looking real tasty bro :thumbsup::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::ras tasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rasta smoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

[harry939]

that some one posted on this thread but it was only a dream :( flushing the bubblegum on saturday anything in specific i should know?:thumbsup:

[harry939]

will get pics up friday btw

[Shovelhandle]

thanks :thumbsup: any bubblegum advice for me?



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Nope, they are the easiest strain to grow. No shit.
These were grown indoors but brought out Day 56 for photos.

Shov

[StickyBuds1987]

man i must say for your first grow those buds look soooooooo goood thye have trics on top of trics haha your gonna be real happy soon :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

[harry939]

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Nope, they are the easiest strain to grow. No shit.
These were grown indoors but brought out Day 56 for photos.

Shov

sweeeeet buds dude :rastasmoke: and awesome im glad i stumbled upon such an easy strain on my first time around :thumbsup: today is day 45 for me did you harvest that day?/what were they under? sorry for the noob sauce im just clueless and not sure when i should be choppin her :D

[harry939]

man i must say for your first grow those buds look soooooooo goood thye have trics on top of trics haha your gonna be real happy soon :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

thanks bro i hope:thumbsup: the hardest part is gonna be curing. every time that i have to let them breathe im gonna want to just roll them all up!:rastasmoke:

[StickyBuds1987]

thanks bro i hope:thumbsup: the hardest part is gonna be curing. every time that i have to let them breathe im gonna want to just roll them all up!:rastasmoke:

lol theres no hopeing man there gonna be some fire lol yeah you have to test it while you cure it anyways well atleast i would just pack a small bowl

[harry939]

lol theres no hopeing man there gonna be some fire lol yeah you have to test it while you cure it anyways well atleast i would just pack a small bowl

haha thanks i dunno about the small part but just one :bonghit:

[harry939]

TODAY IS DAY 49! end of week 7:thumbsup: cant find the cord to the cam but will get pics up.

[420Somehow]

lady bugs work great if you have sealed or floro lights, they like to fly into the light and commit suicide, more airflow will keep them on the plants and not flying around and they will not eat themselves to death, they will some mites around for food. clean up your stems more by the base next time. if you do spray, spray the stems and top soil as that is one way for them to migrate. remove the most affected leaves before spraying. if you have the time, use a paint brush and brush under the leaves before spraying. also SM-90 is also recommended to mix with neem oil. great mix that works for me. two other mite enemies are high humidity, not an option to aviod mold and colder temps, high 60's for a few days will put a dent in them. hope this helps.

[harry939]

more coming up

[harry939]

hmmmmmm

[harry939]

sorry for those last horrible ones

[harry939]

sorry for so many crappy pics:(

[harry939]

TRAINWRECK

[420Somehow]

they are looking really nice, lots of trichs!!! getting close eh?

[stra8outtaWeed]

how's the mite issue coming along?

plants are looking better! :thumbsup:

[harry939]

Yesssss bubblegum will be chopped in roughly a week. I'm thinking the 27th. And the pests are gone! Haven't seen them in daysss. Anyone have any idea how much longer this trainwreck has to go

[Gare0440]

lookin good man. here some pics from that 10 meg camara from the other day.
along with that dank blueberry.:rastasmoke:

[Gare0440]

lookin good man. here some pics from that 10 meg camara from the other day.
along with that dank blueberry.:rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

[harry939]

yessir yessir yessir not to sure what day those pics are from. (a while ago i think) BUT BLUEBERRY

[harry939]

LED ON THE WAY COURTESY OF STRA8 :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[harry939]

couple pics from day 58

[harry939]

BBG BBG TR TR BBG:thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

:thumbsup:lookin good...she's gettin close! :jointsmile:

[bluetooth]

Hey got my first time grow going with one bubble gum and two scrogged trainwrecks 34 days into bud. bubblegum has had little to no problems where as the trainwreck has had an almost constant spider mite problem

I have a closet setup about 3' wide by 8' long where at the moment i have the three plants in bud under a t5 4 bulb 4 foot light

Im using fox farms ocean forest mix with humboldt nutrient grow and humboldt nutrient bloom as well as humbolt nutrient duece duece

the lights are 3-5 inches from the plants

got the clippings from a friend had them in veg for a little under a month and put them in bud on february 26th plants are currently in 3 gal pots.

Trainwreck has had a might problem. sprayed with azamax and got rid of them for a long period of time. since then they have returned and ive used BONIDE MITE X spray to attempt to get rid of them. most recently sprayed them on monday march 29th. almost all of the old growth has the white spots and i noticed them showing up on the new growth as well.

HELP ME (pics in a few minutes):rastasmoke:

my spider mites prefer a particular srtain for whatever reasons.

you got some nute burn for sure. flush their medium w ph ed water i do 5.8 wait till next feed time to use a less concentrated solution.

im a hydro grower and its almost impossible to avoid some burn. im going to be doing my first soil grow here in a couple weeks 50 clones in black grow bags. i was inspired by seeing a large group of super duper healthy soil plants w no burn or deficiencies in sight! its kinda a hobby any way i only make like $500/month proffit

3% peroxide from walmart

1 oz/liter of tap water its around 16 oz/4 gal tap

half strength for clones

spray daily before dark or whenever you have time

get under the leaves, you should go buy a pump sprayer with a wand so you can just stick the wand into the canopy and spray under the leaves with ease. it can turn into a lot of work depending on how large your plants are (i dont think i like having really big plants anymore)

this solution was recomended to me by a successful medicinal caregiver soil grower and i have smoked his product and do not taste anything bad about it

its in the medicinal bible too

and this solution imediately made the green more brilliant
it helps the leaves use oxygen so i keep mine airated in a 5 gal bucket w a lid to prevent evap which would make the solution become un stablized

take it easy! your plants look fine!

[bluetooth]

any advice? also with the yellow and brown leafs on the bubblegum? :thumbsup:

that bubblegum doesnt like that high of a concentration of plant food. (a disadvantage of growing different strains)

my maui has never burned while other strains have. my afghani kush must be imune to spider mites too!

[bluetooth]

lol im already scared! does the label just say the plants absorb it? ive been spraying basically the entire room every time. none the less where the hell can i get these? plant nurserys etc? or a hydro shop? thanks for the good solution :rastasmoke:

1 oz of 3% peroxide/liter of tap water

spray plants daily forever under leaves and flowers too

will prevent mold outbreaks as well

spider mites are burned by the solution and your plants can use oxygen easier too

[bluetooth]

i want to grow regular old marijuana plant with ,no nutrients
How many times should i put in new soil in marijuana cycle of life? also can plant grow without adding any extra nutrients can i just use potting soil.

my experiments with growing in store potting soil proved that mj plants need much more than what soil could give them. ive only had clones make it for 2 weeks with no nutes before their lower leaves yellowed showing a nitrogen deficiency. also that stuff has these stupid time release plant food pellets in it that do nothing but mess up your nutes.

if you dont want to use nutes, you re going to have to get into advanced organic soil growing (compost can suck the nitrogen out of the soil)

[harry939]

spider mites are long gone thanks blutetooth.

[harry939]

PICS OF LED WILL BE UP AT TOMORROW!:rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rast asmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastas moke:

[harry939]

LED IS ON A DELIVERY TRUCK ROAMING MY AREA:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[harry939]

just a crappy snap shot of the led from my phone. more up tomorrow with a better camera:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[harry939]

anddd here it is

[harry939]

LED courtesy of stra8 thanks a lot for the quick shipping and constant helpful information

[harry939]

messed up

[harry939]

ok these are the real ones.

[harry939]

last with both lights on. here comes the fun!

[harry939]

LED ONLY TIME. TWO MORE POSTS OF PICS AFTER THIS ONE

[harry939]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[harry939]

AND THE FINALE well thanks a ton stra8 im excited to see the final product of trainwreck which has about a month to go compared to the bubblegum which only has a week to go:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

LED courtesy of stra8 thanks a lot for the quick shipping and constant helpful information

you're welcome....setup is lookin good! :thumbsup:

[harry939]

thanks stra8 im working on getting some more reflective material up. plus the bubblegum will be gone from that space on monday so those trainwrecks are going to have a happy last few weeks :)

[harry939]

someone else look and tell me my setup is amazing! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[harry939]

a couple shots a of a very trichy area on a trainwreck nug dont worry about the horrible leafs they are left overs from the mite problem and were clipped right after :)

[harry939]

1 oz of 3% peroxide/liter of tap water

spray plants daily forever under leaves and flowers too

will prevent mold outbreaks as well

spider mites are burned by the solution and your plants can use oxygen easier too

plants dont use oxygen they emit it :thumbsup:

[harry939]

CHOPPED AND HUNG BUBBLEGUM

[harry939]

A FEW MORE

[stra8outtaWeed]

pretty nice...now just some curing time :smokin:

[harry939]

a few shots of the bubblegum and a couple of the trainwreck