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legalizebudsplz
03-26-2010, 05:53 AM
Though I have passed a test before with the dilution method using a detox drink I have been reading a lot on here and A) wont be clean for as long as i was before B) have seen a lot on diluting and am reconsidering this for subbing. Here are my questions..
1) How likely is it to be observed for a LabCorp pre-employment screening?
2) Is there a chance they will check your body for concealed items other than in pockets?
3) I have been reading about subbing, some of the posts being fairly old so I am looking for a good answer about the pros and cons of using a clean friends sample vs a powdered urine.
Just a couple questions that I know have been answered in the past, but just looking for updated answers and as everyone else a little reassurance with this subbing process.
Deige
03-26-2010, 12:54 PM
Though I have passed a test before with the dilution method using a detox drink I have been reading a lot on here and A) wont be clean for as long as i was before B) have seen a lot on diluting and am reconsidering this for subbing. Here are my questions..
1) How likely is it to be observed for a LabCorp pre-employment screening?
2) Is there a chance they will check your body for concealed items other than in pockets?
3) I have been reading about subbing, some of the posts being fairly old so I am looking for a good answer about the pros and cons of using a clean friends sample vs a powdered urine.
Just a couple questions that I know have been answered in the past, but just looking for updated answers and as everyone else a little reassurance with this subbing process.
1) Not likely, they cannot observe you on a pre-employment drug screen.
2) Nope, they will only ask you to empty your pockets or remove a jacket if necessary.
3)If you know for sure your friend's sample is clean, then you have nothing to worry about. Just remember the sample will start to break down after 8 hours, so make sure to get it right before the test.
We don't recommend powdered urine because of the mixing process. We recommend Quick Fix synthetic urine. It's 100% effective, has a shelf life of 18 months, and can be reheated as many times as possible(for practicing). Research this product and be sure to be aware of counterfeit bottles.
marleygirl
03-27-2010, 12:30 AM
I just took a Labcorp ore-employment drug screen 2 weeks ago and subbed with Quick Fix. Although you are nervous going in, they are not going to search you. I had to leave my purse in a box. I didn't have any pockets. Just make sure before you go, you have the right temp.. I went in with it in my underwear and then just squeezed it into the cup. It was a perfect 98 degrees and no one questioned a thing. Whatever you decide to do, good luck with the test.
legalizebudsplz
03-28-2010, 04:47 AM
Awesome. Ya, I am going to meet a friend in the morning, get the sample then drive directly to the site so there will be at most an hour / hour and a half until I hand over the cup. I do have a couple other questions..
Because I am just going with my own setup (travel shampoo bottle, ski thermals with tightie whities, air activated heat pad) I know from experimenting that I can maintain and even raise the temp about 1 degree in the time it will take me to get to the testing facility. If for some reason though, when I stop to temp it before I walk in, it has fallen to lets say 94 it would be safe to say get a cup of tea from starbucks and submerge it in there for a little? I just wanna make sure heating it isn't going to hurt the integrity or if anyone has a quick trick on the fly I would appreciate it as I would like it to be as close to 98 as possible.
Also, this is one of the only clean people I know close to me that I would ask to do such and they are vegetarian. Regardless, the natural production of creatine should be enough to pass the threshold correct?
marleygirl
03-28-2010, 01:44 PM
the closer to 98, I would think the less they are going to look at it. someone else suggested warming the cup before putting the specimen in it by placing the cup under your arm. i have never tried it, but will def. be utilizing it the next time. also, in the past, i have placed my finger over the temp strip on the specimen cup, don't press too hard, just get some body heat working. my specimen was already in range but closer to 94, it cannot be cold to have this work. obviously, remove your finger before you open the door to the bathroom and hand over your specimen. someone suggested using coffee to me, so i am sure the tea would work, just don't leave it in too long. if you have a digital thermometer, take the temp. right before you walk into the clinic. i have always heated the synthetic urine closer to 100 and then with my body heat and the heating pad have been able to control the temp for 1-2 hours(never had to wait any longer). can't help you on the vegetarian thing, but i would imagine since you have a real humans undiluted urine, you should be fine. make sure your shampoo bottle is washed out really well before you put anything in it. good luck :hippy:
Sanction
03-28-2010, 02:35 PM
I have an old reciept from a testing facility that uses LabCorp. The box that the tester checks off for an acceptable temperature says that the sample was between 90 -100 degrees. I guess everything is good to go just as long as it stays in that range.
Burnt Toast
03-28-2010, 03:22 PM
As long as your QF batch is current and had been kept away from direct sunlight, it will pass the creatinine checks.
All labs are concerned is that the creatinine level is over 20 mg/dL. And if the creatinine level is over 20 mg, the sample is satisfactory. Plain, sweet, and simple.
legalizebudsplz
03-28-2010, 04:38 PM
Ya.. I have decided that I am going to just grab a cup of tea and submerge the bottle in that till its close to 100. I want to use just plain hot water because if for some crazy unknown reason something happened where some got into the sample I want it to be plain water and not coffee.
I just wanted to make sure heating above 98 wouldn't cook it at all since I am not using QF and a real human sample. Other than that I should be good to go. The shampoo bottle I have is an 89ml one so in case some type of spillage happens.. and I have been practicing with it so it should definitely be clean of any of its previous contents.
Thanks for your input guys!
Sanction
03-28-2010, 07:33 PM
I know they look in the toilet after your done so make sure the color is the same whatever you do in there if it's your own urine. They let you close the door but the two restrooms that I have used for testing seem to have an accoustical similarity. They emit sounds easily where you could hear a pin drop and the chick is right outside the door with her ears on....good luck!
legalizebudsplz
03-28-2010, 10:36 PM
was it at a LabCorp facility?
Sanction
03-28-2010, 11:06 PM
My reciept for the test has LabCorp on it...that's all I know but that was not the name of the facility.
legalizebudsplz
03-29-2010, 03:40 PM
Just arrived home from LabCorp. Here is the story..
Picked up sample from friend this morning and then drove to the facility about 45min away. While driving travel shampoo bottle was crotched and I had hand warmers between my layers of tightie wities and boxer briefs. Stopped right before I went into the facility and temped it with a digital thermometer... 98.4 degrees. Showed up at the facility and had to sign in and sit and wait for about 45 min. Was a little worried because the seat was cold when I sat down and I was there for so long, but finally got called in. Went in back room and the lady put on rubber gloves and didnt say anything.. was a little nervous now.. then she told me to take off my coat and suit jacket and handed me the specimen bottle.
She walked me in the bathroom and told me to wash my hands and then she put blue liquid in the toilet. Then she walked out and said to bring it to her when I was done. She shut the door behind her and out came the bottle, unscrewed cap, dumped it in.. little bubbles.. nice.. come on temp strip.. go up.. go up.. well it hit 96 which was good enough for me so I peed in the toilet for the effect, and then walked out and handed her the specimen apologizing for the drops left on the seat... She read the bottle and checked off the temp box and I signed a few places and off I went. I checked the sample with an adulteration strip and all levels were in normal range.
Walked out happy, called my friend and thanked him but asked him not to eat asparagus next time... awaiting results but I think im good!
Thanks to everyone on here that gave me the balls to pull it off..
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