Blue Dream EPIC GROW!

[martyrprojekt]

I am going to highjack some of my pictures and make this an official grow log for epic room #1...

I ordered some White Russian today. I am planning a cross between a White Russian Male (and one of my Blue Dream mothers)...thus making Blue Russian! I have had this strain once before...and it was delicious! :stoned:

Pictures are of Day #1, Beginning of Week #2, and Beginning of Week #3...I have the girls on 24 hour light...and 6 feedings per day. They are growing vigorously...and I already added another 4 inches since the last picture was taken.

Next week I am going to run bushmaster for 3 days...and then flip to flower. :jointsmile:

[tinytoon]

how can anyone look at the stuff you do and not comment. Shame on you people lol. Looks real good marty :thumbsup:

[420session]

Good grow, let me know how that blue russian come along. Im curious to know how it smokes.....:)

[moody420]

Looking real good! Love me some blue dream!!!! I've got 4 plants of it that i will be harvesting in about a week! Never had blue russian, but the combination sounds divine! :jointsmile:

[drudown11]

some day im gunna have a grow room like that.(grow room's, i should say)

Evertime you post pictures like this it inspires someone.lol

[martyrprojekt]

Another update...I thought you should see what a difference 2 days have made.

[Micsog]

SHIT MAN RIGHT ON THOSE GONNA HAVE A BLUE PHENO??

[martyrprojekt]

So yes...when I do my cross it will be the following:

Blue Dream Female (from clone) X White Russian (male from Seed)

Should get me 3 different phenotypes (Blue dominant, WR dom, and 50/50)

I will take a 50/50 plant and cross with Blue Dream one more time!

This is Blue Russian!!!!!!!!!!! 22% THC is the least of your concerns with this Indica Dominant Strain!

[AquaponicHerb]

good deal man. You look like you got it down good. Blue Dream is an awesome strain. I started growing it about 4 months ago and nothing but good qualities. Its amazing how big these plants can get...

[martyrprojekt]

So a little advice on Blue Dream...since people are always asking my opinion of the strain and trying to find more information on it.

BLUE DREAM:

THIS STRAIN is a bitch. Plain and simple. Not a great plant for first time growers. For first timers I would recommend playing with white widow...or something along those lines.

With Blue dream though...there are sooooo many issues you are going to need to be ready for:

1.) Not a very good mold resistant strain...or pests for that matter.

2.) When you flip to 12/12 for flower, expect 2-4 feet of stretch from your girls (unless you use bushmaster).

3.) This strain produces a lot more foliage than bud...and the calyxes are spaced apart pretty damn far when you let the plants stretch fully.

4.) Make sure you have enough room to handle this growth. Even with 10 foot ceilings (and my lights all the way up) I had to get creative and stretch my plants away from the lights.

5.) Give this strain a chance to veg for 30 days (yes...I know the plant will be 5 feet tall). Your overall yield will almost double if you let it go at least 30 days prior to flipping.

BUT...what do I get in return for all of this headache...a huge THC laden yield. Stuff you are proud to show off, and stuff you are proud to say that "you" grew. :jointsmile:

And this stuff is better than any purp or kush I have smoked or grown...just my thoughts...for what its worth!

[warlord98]

Looks really nice. I've never had the chance to sample any blue dream but looked it up. Every one seems to like it, nothing but raves. blueberry and haze right?I will be following along with you also.

[tinytoon]

I second that, seems like you never hear anything bad about Dream. 10 ft tall ceilings ...... hmmm ........ that could be an issue lol :wtf:

[AquaponicHerb]

Yea I am going to trigger in about 3 days. Thanks for the advice on strain it helps.

[martyrprojekt]

new pic today...almost time to flip to 12/12...

And yes...not much info out there, except that it produces really good bud. This is definitely a HIGH END smoke.

[headshake]

just caught up on this one. nice project MP! can't wait to see where this one goes.

-shake

[martyrprojekt]

Hey Guys...Today is day #1 of Bushmaster. I am using RO water, Cal Mag and Bushmaster. I will be doing this for a 3 day cycle...THEN OFF TO 12/12...These girls have been under the lights for 3 weeks. I could go 4 weeks....but with vegging under my HPS lights...The growth was wayyyyyy better than expected.

Lets get this party moving!!!!!!!!!!!! :jointsmile:

BTW....I am smoking some nice Grape Ape from my 3rd grow...I'm lovin' it!

[martyrprojekt]

well...Still waiting for my 4 light controller/timer to get here. GOD DAMN UPS.:wtf:

I would love to start flower today...looks like I need to wait until tomorrow to see if it has arrived yet...BTW...Loving how bushmaster is making the girls go crazy...I've got more tops than ever.

I did do a little experiment on one of the trays. I did top those. I want to see the difference in the yield with topping Vs. not topping...SO far...I do not think I will be topping every again. I will reserve that final decision until after the harvest...so I can compare the weight between the trays.

[ForgetClassC]

Apparently there's gonna be some of this around here, whats the high supposed to be like? Couch-lock? Heady? Just trying to see if its legit or they just called it this.

[martyrprojekt]

The High is very unique. A great body high...super couch lock...throw in a bag of chili cheese fritos and an orange gatorade (cheech n chong on Blue Ray)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[crf70rider]

looking good bro i cant wait to see the buds

[AquaponicHerb]

Yes it is very strong medicine. I harvested some blue dream from my last batch and decided it was the one for me. This herb has a lot of stopping power and can leave you wondering whats going on if not used responsibly. It has a unique smell in flower, much different from most indicas or sativas. I would say the smell is very spicy but also very sweet, almost like german black licorice.

I've got 7 of them and I am going into flower today. I'll post pics in a grow log I will open soon, I thought it was interesting we are both so close on our schedules although I had more time dedicated veg with the big clones I bought.

Mine are all over 5' and I will have huge stretch problems this harvest; no bushmaster. We shall see how it turns out...

:rasta:

[ForgetClassC]

Here's some of the Blue Dream that's along my way, what's your own look like? This stuff is crazy, makes me babble, but not unintelligibly just very thought filled speech. I like it, helps with my backpain, lets you find a position in which it doesn't not-hurt, but just makes you not think of it, so I guess that would be dubbed reduction in pain? Very enjoyable.

-C

[AquaponicHerb]

Last harvest... I only grew 1 blue dream but it was some good
herb...

[martyrprojekt]

my last blue dream harvest. huuuuuuge yielder...:jointsmile:

[AquaponicHerb]

your gonna do well this harvest i can already tell

[tinytoon]

I dont think Marty ever has a bad run hehe :jointsmile:

[ForgetClassC]

Yeah EPIC seems like it could go with any of his grows.

-C

[martyrprojekt]

I appreciate the flattery gentlemen...It does not mean I can fedex samples. :wtf: Well at least not that I would admit to. :thumbsup:

The girls are in flower. Looking very nice...I will be putting up pictures soon.

[avon211]

marty can i be the 1st you fedex to? you got it going on Bro! Lovely nugs

[Greenport]

It looks so damn beautiful, makes me want to smoke! Too bad I can't until after I get a job! And Avon, thats not really smart to say on a public forum lol.

[martyrprojekt]

Damn Greenport...You think it looks sexy now...Just wait until I post pictures of the Trichs...

YES..You heard me correctly. Today is day 3 of flower...and the grow room is covered with tops and trichs.

When compared with my last grow...It took almost 2 weeks to see this many trichs. I fucking love bushmaster. It is official...I recommend it. This is going to put me another week ahead of schedule.

And we all know what that means...I get to smoke some nice shit...SOOOON!:D

[stra8outtaWeed]

glad you got the Bushmaster....on your next grow do 1 tray with a larger dose and see what happens:D

this stuff gets your girls up and ready for the party...no lolli gaggin!

the more you get familiar with it you will know how long to veg and then hit them hard with it and get your dosage dialed in for each strain you like and you will be amazed at the end! :thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

Str8 outta weed...more bushmaster??? I dunno...I think the results were pretty damn good this time. And, I was light on the application of it...4ml to 5 gallons of water. hmmmmm....:wtf:

Well, Here are the new pics...Just remember this is only day 4 of flower! :thumbsup:

I wanted you guys to see the calyx development with using bushmaster. The buds really are developing much faster. It seems like it truly does make it go into the 12/12 cycle much easier...like it almost prepares the plants. Very cool stuff...and I will be adding this to the nute list for good.

[stra8outtaWeed]

i watched my buddies grow where he did one light with 5ml/gal with 4gallon of water so 20 mil total and the plants were a little shorter but the buds were bigger than flippin beer cans in their girth... bigger than the others with the smaller dose...so experiment a little to fine tune hoggin them babies up...which means you can veg until you get the size you like and hammer 'em! i know every strain will react differently but just try a few more mils on one tray in your next grow to see the difference it makes...i have been using this stuff for about 4 years and yes i won't grow without it because it does put them in flower mode faster which means faster finish! my standard dose was 3ml/gal so i am giving mine 5ml/gal now :thumbsup:

your grow looks great...keep up the good work!:smokin:

[martyrprojekt]

i watched my buddies grow where he did one light with 5ml/gal with 4gallon of water so 20 mil total and the plants were a little shorter but the buds were bigger than flippin beer cans in their girth... bigger than the others with the smaller dose...so experiment a little to fine tune hoggin them babies up...

My only concern is that I have been vegging under the 1000 Watt HPS lights. I was hoping to avoid the ram horn leaves that can stunt the bud development if you overdo the dosages of bushmaster. Since this is my first jaunt into this unknown nutrients capability...I will probably conduct a controlled experiment without Bmaster...With Bmaster...and with a large dose of Bmaster.

Here are my concerns though...It seems like a lot have tried Bmaster only to burn the crap out of their plants or stunt their growth big time. I am extremely happy with the current results...and I will probably continue at the current dosage...as I know it works...and it is beefing up my yield. I am not greedy...it is always about the quality of the medicine that I produce for myself and my patients. :jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

My only concern is that I have been vegging under the 1000 Watt HPS lights. I was hoping to avoid the ram horn leaves that can stunt the bud development if you overdo the dosages of bushmaster. Since this is my first jaunt into this unknown nutrients capability...I will probably conduct a controlled experiment without Bmaster...With Bmaster...and with a large dose of Bmaster.

Here are my concerns though...It seems like a lot have tried Bmaster only to burn the crap out of their plants or stunt their growth big time. I am extremely happy with the current results...and I will probably continue at the current dosage...as I know it works...and it is beefing up my yield. I am not greedy...it is always about the quality of the medicine that I produce for myself and my patients. :jointsmile:

yeah....i grow in soil/coco medium so my doseages may not be good for your situation...i was merely suggesting to try exactly what you said...experiment a little but a controlled experiment...i don't want you to fry your plants either...just sharing what i have seen with a little experimenting...i was under 1000's until i made the switch to LED...and the other grow i speak of was also a veg under 1000.s and into flower...4-1000's to be exact...but it is good stuff...i wont do a grow without it! :thumbsup:

again nice grow! :smokin:

[martyrprojekt]

Bushmaster Controlled experiments:

With my current grow I am already experimenting with one of my trays as a "control tray." The question I was pondering was..."Will it make a difference in the yield and quality if topping Blue Dream and using bushmaster."

Application Observations:

There is definitely a difference in the amount of growth during VEG. Specifically, there is a lot less growth in the topped tray. Which was surprising. I know that when I topped blue dream in the past I was rewarded with more COLA TOPS. This conclusion based upon the results so far has lead to other questions...that are being answered currently.

Additional Question:

My next question that came up was, "Will Bushmaster eliminate the need to top my plants?"

In fact, the trays that were not topped have just as many colas as the topped tray. The difference is...The non-topped trays are showing huge cola development (and not just the main colas). Plus, the main colas are the same height as the ones surrounding it due to the bushmaster.

Conclusions:

When growing Blue Dream and using Bmaster...There is no need to top the plants...because it will impede the growth of the plants during the vegatative stage of growth. By using Bushmaster is eliminates that need to top because the lower colas are able to catch up during the final 3 days of VEG while bmaster is being applied.

When the stretch occurs when flipped to 12/12...a few of the plants will stretch above the others...but, not enough to really effect the canopy as a whole. I will be reserving my full analysis when I weigh the yield per tray at the end of harvest...dry...and cure.

[stra8outtaWeed]

just from my experience...some strians like to be topped and some dont...good info though for others to observe your grow and conclusions with the Blue Dream :thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

just from my experience...some strians like to be topped and some dont...good info though for others to observe your grow and conclusions with the Blue Dream :thumbsup:

I agree that some strains should not be topped. But, the point was that topping was a necessity when not using bushmaster in my previous grows. With bushmaster...I do not recommend topping your plants (again, this is based upon using BLUE DREAM and I will be comparing with different strains to confirm my hypothesis).:thumbsup:

[frank420]

Awesome information, and impressive how fast flowering kicked in. lookin forward to seeing your results :thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

Awesome information, and impressive how fast flowering kicked in. lookin forward to seeing your results :thumbsup:

Honestly...I should post some pictures of 2 weeks into flower on my last Blue Dream grow. It seems like they are in an almost identical phase of flower.

[GetThisOrDie]

Looks great marty... Theres going to be alot of good bud on those ladies!

I saw a show on cnbc a couple nights ago about people in CA are shipping their weed all over to sell using fedex and ups.

[martyrprojekt]

I saw a show on cnbc a couple nights ago about people in CA are shipping their weed all over to sell using fedex and ups.

I was kidding. I do not condone nor participate in shipping Marijuana illegally accross state lines. That would be a federal crime...:wtf:! In fact, I strongly encourage everyone who grows under state medical marijuana guidelines to not go over 100 plants. Stay within your legal limits and rights.:thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::t humbsup:

[GetThisOrDie]

UPS shipping? United Pot Smokers shipping!!

[headshake]

damn M.P., what's going on with this epic? i'm trying to keep up but i'm slacking. str8 keeps trying to get me to use bushmaster on some OG that stretches worse than octomom's vagina! i might have to give it a shot though.

i also concur that some strains don't take well to topping while others absolutely love it!

can't wait to keep laboring over the pages.


-shake

[martyrprojekt]

damn M.P., what's going on with this epic? i'm trying to keep up but i'm slacking. str8 keeps trying to get me to use bushmaster on some OG that stretches worse than octomom's vagina! i might have to give it a shot though.

i also concur that some strains don't take well to topping while others absolutely love it!

Epic Grow is going well my friend...I am loving the progression on this. I can't wait for the next grow log...Because I will be running two rooms like this one. And, my new Grow Lab will be up an running too. Time to get some new strains going.:jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

damn M.P., what's going on with this epic? i'm trying to keep up but i'm slacking. str8 keeps trying to get me to use bushmaster on some OG that stretches worse than octomom's vagina! i might have to give it a shot though.

i also concur that some strains don't take well to topping while others absolutely love it!

can't wait to keep laboring over the pages.


-shake

thanks for the laugh 'shake....octomom...tooo funny!

looking great marty...can't wait to see your results as well!

[martyrprojekt]

I am 14 days into flower on this current grow. This is by far...my best grow to date (That is of course, until I start my next grow:D).

I included some new pictures...I wanted you guys to see how tight the calyx's are...and the rapid bud development. I have never seen this strain start showing sex...let alone fully developed tops...until week 4. Which means...I am two weeks ahead of schedule. :thumbsup:

And that means...two weeks sooner that I can medicate:stoned:

[stra8outtaWeed]

that Bushmaster is awesome shit...its nice when you can see how it throws them into flower much faster.... i won't do grow without it:thumbsup:

looks great...keep up the good work:smokin:

[martyrprojekt]

:jointsmile:[quote=stra8outtaWeed]that Bushmaster is awesome shit...its nice when you can see how it throws them into flower much faster.... i won't do grow without it:thumbsup:[QUOTE]

Yes, bushmaster is the shit. I have never seen calyx development so tight and immense. I literally will have buds from the tops to the bottom of these 3-4 foot tall trees. It will be a nice harvest!:jointsmile::jointsmile:

[StickyBuds1987]

Very nice grow man they look great. Is it ok to use bushmaster for gowing outdoors?

[GetThisOrDie]

Whats up?

Your room looks awesome! All this talk about Bushmaster!! Im going to have to try it...

[ticklemebink]

I cant believe how fast they grow in that set up! wow. is there an average of how much faster it works compared to soil?

[martyrprojekt]

I cant believe how fast they grow in that set up! wow. is there an average of how much faster it works compared to soil?

Hmmmm...I honestly have only grown outdoors with soil. Takes waaaaaay to long compared to indoors. I have only used hydro methods when growing indoors.

Some have said that it adds 1-4 weeks to the grow...but that depends on the strain being grown. Hope that helps!

Girls are coming along nice...I am posting pictures tonights. I am 2 weeks ahead of schedule now compared to my last grow...6 more weeks to harvest, 2 more weeks till I make more clones.

[martyrprojekt]

Whats up?

Your room looks awesome! All this talk about Bushmaster!! Im going to have to try it...

Dude...so far its saving me 2 weeks of flower time. For me, enuff' said...best nute purchase ever!:jointsmile:

Humboldt nutes should pay me a spokesperson fee....Free nutes for life! lmao!:D

[martyrprojekt]

Very nice grow man they look great. Is it ok to use bushmaster for gowing outdoors?

Bushmaster is excellent for outdoors. Especially if you don't have 30 Ft. tall fences and no neighbors. It will keep your plants below the fence line and give your girls some girth.

There is directions available online for recommended usages...Like st8outtaweed says...push your plants to the limits, it only helps.

[martyrprojekt]

str8outtaweed...I heard someone up your way near Weed, Ca. Some famous writer got busted for 60 plants by the local Sheriff Dept...even though they had medical linceses posted and present.

The cops stole 11 pounds and 60 plants for medical patients. Thats some bullshit!:wtf:

You show me a cop...I will show you a Felon!

[tinytoon]

Marty what are you running for a bloom booster??

Plants look great as always btw :jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

str8outtaweed...I heard someone up your way near Weed, Ca. Some famous writer got busted for 60 plants by the local Sheriff Dept...even though they had medical linceses posted and present.

The cops stole 11 pounds and 60 plants for medical patients. Thats some bullshit!:wtf:

You show me a cop...I will show you a Felon!

the sheriffs think they can push the medical patients around..tell them what they can and can't have...it's a pretty redneck attitude they have:wtf:

on a better note one of my buddies is runnig for sheriff this fall so he will get my vote...not the incumbant :thumbsup::thumbsup:


can't wait to see the progress and your pics..thanks for the news...i'm wondering if it was Jack Trout...he's a famous writer and fishing guide..but I'll find out in a few days when i get back home! :D

[martyrprojekt]

Str8outta weed: Here's the article (http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_14808743). Typical from cops up North. They are probably pissed because they weren't getting a cut...like the cartels give them. LMAO!

Tinytoon: I am using floranectar, Florablend, Floralicious bloom and koolbloom for bud boosting. Works very nice for my setup. I am considering using other things (but I really like to stick to one manufacturer for continuities sake). Except for my transition phase into flower...that is all bushmaster (with CALMAG).

The grow update:

I gotta post these pictures of my girls at exactly 2 weeks. When the buds looks like this on Blue Dream...I am usually at my 4th week. Shaving the two weeks off is for sure at this point. Or, I could let them go the full 10...just for kicks.:wtf:

Notice the calyx development on my last picture...Its literally white for the top 8 inches of the plant at 2 weeks of flower. Now imagine them at 6 weeks. I can.:stoned:

[stra8outtaWeed]

thats Jack Trout...his writing name...i know every name in that article except the Bushee dude from the newspaper...haha...i bet he's a grower!

Eric Bergstrom i a good attorney also...he is a cowboy of sorts :thumbsup:

thanks for the article...it was a sad read though...he is a cool dude and lives on the outskirts in the boonies!

Its sad they don't have anything better to do and i know that he was helping other medical patients so why bother him when he had his place posted! :wtf:

your grow is looking awesome...i would wait and see where trich development is in week 7 and make your decision then about when to harvest and start the flushing run :thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

your grow is looking awesome...i would wait and see where trich development is in week 7 and make your decision then about when to harvest and start the flushing run :thumbsup:

I have no patience. I will let these run 8 weeks. Even though I usually will let blue dream go for 9 or 10 normally. Of course, all of my trichs will be milky with a few amber trichs. Just how I like it!:thumbsup:

I do have a question though. Some of my last grows didn't have a great stink to them. They smelled super sweet...Any suggestions to fix this?

[stra8outtaWeed]

i know you like conitinuity...but you might try getting a liter of bud candy by AN...it is blend of sugars on steroids as a friend referred to it and i like the sweet flavor it adds to the herb...it wont over power the main flavor but only make it sweeter and it is called a "flavor and aroma enhancer"

plus it has a 0-0-1 rating :thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

i know you like conitinuity...but you might try getting a liter of bud candy by AN...it is blend of sugars on steroids as a friend referred to it and i like the sweet flavor it adds to the herb...it wont over power the main flavor but only make it sweeter and it is called a "flavor and aroma enhancer"

plus it has a 0-0-1 rating :thumbsup:

technically my floranectar is already doing this...

[stra8outtaWeed]

i've never smelled flora nectar but maybe next time at the grow shop see if they have any bud candy and take a whiff of it and see if there's much difference between the 2...anyhow its what i use in my flower cycle...basically AN combined sweet leaf and carbo load together to make bud candy!

in fact if i can find anything other than AN that i like i will use it as I hate their marketing approach and the amount of shit they try and sell folks...so i am not an AN fan at all :hippy:

[martyrprojekt]

i've never smelled flora nectar but maybe next time at the grow shop see if they have any bud candy and take a whiff of it and see if there's much difference between the 2...anyhow its what i use in my flower cycle...basically AN combined sweet leaf and carbo load together to make bud candy!

in fact if i can find anything other than AN that i like i will use it as I hate their marketing approach and the amount of shit they try and sell folks...so i am not an AN fan at all :hippy:

I never thought I would need 15 different nutes...But, even GH is the same way...Que Sera!

[StickyBuds1987]

Bushmaster is excellent for outdoors. Especially if you don't have 30 Ft. tall fences and no neighbors. It will keep your plants below the fence line and give your girls some girth.

There is directions available online for recommended usages...Like st8outtaweed says...push your plants to the limits, it only helps.

thanx marty im deff gonna get some of that cuz i have no fence but i do have neighbors who live close and who also smoke bud and tend to throw parties from time to time i really dont need big trees full of buds for them to try and gank although on the ther hand who would not love big trees full of buds lol

[martyrprojekt]

thanx marty im deff gonna get some of that cuz i have no fence but i do have neighbors who live close and who also smoke bud and tend to throw parties from time to time i really dont need big trees full of buds for them to try and gank although on the ther hand who would not love big trees full of buds lol

No Fences? Grow inside Sir.

First rule of Growing Cannabis...never talk about growing cannabis.
Second rule of Growing Cannabis...Never Talk About Growing Cannabis!
Third rule of Growing Cannabis...do so discretely so that nobody can see...not even your cat.

Be safe bro!

[StickyBuds1987]

No Fences? Grow inside Sir.

First rule of Growing Cannabis...never talk about growing cannabis.
Second rule of Growing Cannabis...Never Talk About Growing Cannabis!
Third rule of Growing Cannabis...do so discretely so that nobody can see...not even your cat.

Be safe bro!

yeah im being safe as i can be only one person knows im growing and that person lives here lol and i have plenty of camo for the plants and i would love to be able to grow inside just to able to maybe next year

[martyrprojekt]

Allright, I lost a plant last night due to that water line clogging. After this grow I will need to redesign my grow feeding system to include two feeding lines per plant. I was hoping to not have to do this. But, with the amount of plants I am running this is the only way to make sure they are getting fed properly.

Otherwise they are looking marvelous...and I got 5 more weeks to go.

[tinytoon]

Let us all bow our heads and have a moment of silence for Marty's loss :(

[ForgetClassC]

:(

LOL I tried to only do the face, but it said it was too short, so now there is this completely way too long of an explanation.

-C

[martyrprojekt]

What a difference a few days can make. I did lose one of the girls...and it is forcing me to redesign my feeding system (and rethinking my feeding schedule):wtf:...With that being said. Things look fantastic.

Check out the pics for yourselves...Lemme know what you think.

Picture #1 is of the crown of buds I have on every plant that I didn't top. My question is...how the hell am I supposed to trim this?:D I guess it's a good problem to have!:wtf:

Rule #1 do not top plants when using bushmaster.:thumbsup:Check!
Rule #2 do not top Blue Dream. EVER!
Rule #3 Use bushmaster in every grow.

[demoreal]

I have been using bushmaster for a while now. In my own personal experiments I notice the buds that were given bushmaster slightly lacked in flavor and potency. I believe this was do to the fact it took two weeks off the life of the plants that were not treated with bushmaster. Speeding the life of a flowering plant, fruit, or vegetable is not the best idea. Organic gardening for example produces beautiful tasting and very potent pot, great tasting and nutrient rich vegetables, and beautiful looking flowers. In return for quality it takes time...
Another example is the reason General Hydroponics does not recommend fulic acid during flowering. I asked them this question and in an e-mail I received they said it makes the plant grow faster so in veg its great yet in flowering speeds it up and in return you get a plant thats oils are not quite ready yet the plant is ripe.
I use bushmaster only when I belive my plants are going to grow into the light. My prefered method of keeping a plant from stretching is using blue light, smaller containers, very little night/day temp difference.
Test out the buds when you are finnished growing and let me know if you get the same results.
I am not bashing on this product it does exactly what it says it does. like I said I do use it in an emergency. I am only commentig on the fact that playing with nature to give you something, you usually have to give her something in return.

[tinytoon]

Looking good as always Marty :jointsmile:

[martyrprojekt]

Hey guys...Thanks for the responses.

I gotta say that I will be sure to "sample" anything before I put it out there to my patients. I am a snob when it comes to my bud...and if I won't smoke it...I won't expect my patients to either. Which I why I grow my own to begin with...Most of the stuff out there is the snicklefritz. :D

I highly doubt that the quality will be effected by Bushmaster...but, we shall see. I still plan on letting this 10 weeks strain go for 10 weeks (if it needs to)...and I am positive this would correct any quality issues.:cool:

Thanks Tiny...I am still watching your logs...I love looking at the old stuff we have done in the past to see how far we have all come. You my friend, have made some leaps and bounds!

More updates to come...the girls look fantastic...and I can't want until harvest. :jointsmile:

[tinytoon]

Ty Marty and I'm sure we all have come a long way from the first seed we killed :wtf:

[demoreal]

Just let me know. I am interested since you fed half the plants with it and half not. If I read correctly? I will feed it to one plant my next grow and do another side by side.

[martyrprojekt]

on my next grow demoral...next grow. This one was treated with Bushmaster...One tray was topped...the rest were not topped.

I did not have a control tray on this grow. I do not plan on doing one...As I can see the difference from my last grow...huge differences.

[tinytoon]

Thats like us using Koolbloom for the first time ....... HUGE difference :thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

Well, I am at week #4 of Flower today. I am changing water and nutes today. Time for a fresh everything. I usually do this once per week...Its time! :thumbsup:

If you guys want to see for yourselves the difference in growth, bud size, bud density, etc...Look at my last grow and compare during the same time frame of flower.

[martyrprojekt]

see the difference for yourself:

Picture #1 My last grow of blue dream at 6 weeks.
Picture #2 My current grow of BDream at 4 weeks.

[demoreal]

I know it makes a huge difference in growth I have a bottle of the stuff. I noticed lack in quality. You might be on to something, with harvesting a bit late. I notice calyx development 3 days after using it. The trichomes developed at the speed of the plants untreated. Get what I mean? I will try testing again.
I noticed a huge difference in growth and density. What it lacked was smell, flavor and potency. Not by much, but enough to where I only use it in an emergency. The buds you are growing are beautiful. They will make beautiful medicine. I have nothing against bushmaster. I own it. Just something I experience when using it. I will do a plat and get new results. Let me know about the results you get. It would be nice if you still had some of that bud from the last grow as a comparison. Remember, it is the final product to be interested in when testing. I am testing out gravity and purple maxx this grow.

[martyrprojekt]

I know it makes a huge difference in growth I have a bottle of the stuff. I noticed lack in quality. You might be on to something, with harvesting a bit late. I notice calyx development 3 days after using it. The trichomes developed at the speed of the plants untreated. Get what I mean? I will try testing again.
I noticed a huge difference in growth and density. What it lacked was smell, flavor and potency. Not by much, but enough to where I only use it in an emergency. The buds you are growing are beautiful. They will make beautiful medicine. I have nothing against bushmaster. I own it. Just something I experience when using it. I will do a plat and get new results. Let me know about the results you get. It would be nice if you still had some of that bud from the last grow as a comparison. Remember, it is the final product to be interested in when testing. I am testing out gravity and purple maxx this grow.

Especially when your grows are lowryders...this is not meant for them at all! You can see the difference in the plants...The grow without has huge stretched branches...hardly any vegetation in comparison to the grow with bushmaster...etc.

Quality...we will test soon...Should be interesting. You should come by...since you are in the bay too! We can sample together and get a 3rd party's opinion!

[demoreal]

The quality of the grow you are doing is going to be amazing!!! We would need a bud of the old grow to really tell.
The stuff you are growing now is going to be strong no matter what.
I would love to be a tester. :):):)
I have my stuff that needs testing too...

[martyrprojekt]

I do have some of the old stuff too...From my last harvest. We can sample both. I have been saving a nice bug nug for such an occasion...For scientific purposes only:wtf::wtf::wtf:(LMAO!)

[wolfgar]

very nice...you know for the purpose of scientific accuracy more testers will be needed!!!;)

[martyrprojekt]

very nice...you know for the purpose of scientific accuracy more testers will be needed!!!;)

A make a point to have people over....order a ton of food...drinks...and smoke a zip between 8 of us. We are katatonic.

[tinytoon]

Marty if you buy me a plane ticket I'll bring some Medi for ya!! :stoned:

[martyrprojekt]

Someday soon Tiny...Someday soon!:thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

some updated pictures for everyone. This grow is winding down nicely. I had some Humidity issues in the new room. I was able to get it under control by adding 2 more fans to the grow room. Made a huge difference.

[tinytoon]

Hey Marty what the chopsticks for?? If you want to eat it atleast wait till they are finished :thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

some close-ups to drool over...

And yeah, I got the Bamboo sticks out to hold some of the lower branches up. They are some heavy plants.:thumbsup:

HAPPY 420!!!!!!!!!!

[martyrprojekt]

This site sucks sometimes. Here are the pictures.

[stra8outtaWeed]

This site sucks sometimes. Here are the pictures.

yeah..at 10pm pst...:wtf:

looks like you got some hogs...bamboo is a good sign of a successful grow! :thumbsup:

nice work...happy 420 :smokin:

[martyrprojekt]

looks like you got some hogs...bamboo is a good sign of a successful grow! :thumbsup:



Yeah...I usually don't pull out the bamboo sticks until about week 6 or 7...not at week 5. I'm not going to say it anymore...but, damn huge yield difference. My main cola's are HUUUUGE and Heavy!:jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

well...the real "swell" is yet to happen...you are gonna have some serious weight on the vine at the end! great job :thumbsup:

thanks for the laugh in demo's thread....when you're used to lookin at plants they just seem like thats where they belong...so you don't notice them! :D

[martyrprojekt]

exactly...the swell is coming. Its gonna be a sea of bamboo before I'm done. Which is a good problem to be having...:thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

correction...the Swell is here. They have already doubled in visual mass in two days. Should be interesting...I've never had buds the size of a 2 liter bottle with Blue Dream.

Time to toke up and enjoy my recent disability.:jointsmile:

[StickyBuds1987]

hey marty those buds look fire man wish i could try some haha :thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

We all joke about hanging out...I really think some of us should get together...share some cutting...and smoke ourselves stupid.

If anyone is going to make it for the High Times medical cup...we should party bus it.

[LOC NAR on probation]

We all joke about hanging out...I really think some of us should get together...share some cutting...and smoke ourselves stupid.

If anyone is going to make it for the High Times medical cup...we should party bus it.

Damn wish I could go I got nothing to do. But if the Medical CUP is the bright point to anything I must be in the darkest outreaches.

I guess I'll just light one up and dream a little dream.

[martyrprojekt]

I hear you LOC...perhaps we can plot in the shadows! LMAO!:jointsmile::jointsmile:

[tinytoon]

Loc if you are in the darkest outreaches I think we live next door :D

[martyrprojekt]

Loc if you are in the darkest outreaches I think we live next door :D

I almost pissed myself when I saw this...:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

[tinytoon]

Only almost?? Dam now I gotta try again :wtf:

[martyrprojekt]

So I have decided only to take the plants to 8 weeks. It just makes sense. They are at day 38 of flower...and they are already getting so top heavy that I have been deploying my "chopsticks" everywhere.;)

I am actually beginning to become worried about the 35 huge cola crowns that I have going on. if they get too heavy...I am afraid I will lose some of the tops if they fall over. I had this same issue with Citral when growing that (due to the huge cola sizes)....but, this dwarfs them at this stage of flower growth.:thumbsup:

I will post some pictures on Sunday...Oh yeah...new High Times Issue, I am in there...my AKA is Farmer Fred. I am sure tiny will recognize the picture.:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

[LOC NAR on probation]

Alright Marty, I got to pick up a hightimes. First time in years.

[martyrprojekt]

Alright Marty, I got to pick up a hightimes. First time in years.

Hey LOC,

You might remember the picture that in High times. It was from my 2nd grow...Green Crack and Purple Kush.

[martyrprojekt]

dont worry about picking it up...I'll scan it and post it tonight.

[martyrprojekt]

Disaster...One of my trays fell down while I was away from the grow room. I can thank the woman for this one. She was fucking around in my room...and a tray dumped. I had to early harvest 6 plants...so I am down to 30 plants.

Say a prayer for my girls...although, I was able to salvage 5 pounds of wet bud. Hopefully it will be about 1-2 pounds dry.

I'm still bitter. They would have been phenominal with another 2 weeks.

[tinytoon]

Lock the door my friend ...... lock the door!!

Then again think of the ways she could make it up to ya :woohoo:

[ponicgrower]

hi tiny.

i have been reading all yours and martys posts and would just like to say i wish i was as far forward as you pair of nutters (lol)

thing is this is my first grow and am doing it hydroponically

i have plenty room as i am living on a farm that is miles from anywhere so privacy is not a problem

got my first seeds ( skunk feminised) but not started them off yet as im getting grow room ready ( 4mx4m unused stable ) painting it white matt and fitting fans and lights etc

so is it ok to call on yous pair and get advice now and again

many thanks lads

[tinytoon]

I would say best thing to do is start up a thread of your own and I'm sure that myself, Marty, Loc and quite a few others will stop in to see whatz growing on. Step 1 I will tell you right now and that is after painting is done make sure that room is WELL ventilated before you even dream of putting anything in there!! (lesson learned)

[ponicgrower]

ok tiny thanks for that

will start up a thread later when i get growing

p.s what do you think of my seeds ?

[martyrprojekt]

ok tiny thanks for that

will start up a thread later when i get growing

p.s what do you think of my seeds ?

Skunk is good stuff...my advice is to learn with two or three strains...and then diversify by getting a hold of a lot of different strains.

[ponicgrower]

thanks marty thats a good idea, are some strains easier/ harder to grow than others ?

whats best strains for a beginner like myself?

thanks

p.s your bushes look truly awsome

[tinytoon]

good seed banks will tell you in the strain description what type of grower, beginer inter expert, should be growing it.

[martyrprojekt]

good seed banks will tell you in the strain description what type of grower, beginer inter expert, should be growing it.

I don't know how much I trust the seed companies trying to sell me seeds. They said Citral was easy to grow...and that was BULLSHIT.

There are some strains that are easier to grow than others. My advice is to grow the hardest plants possible...that way you learn as much as possible...and you know that it only gets easier.

[martyrprojekt]

thanks marty thats a good idea, are some strains easier/ harder to grow than others ?

whats best strains for a beginner like myself?

thanks

p.s your bushes look truly awsome

White widow...it will teach you a lot!!!!!

[JungleSuperstar]

nice grow matey...:thumbsup:

[tinytoon]

Marty you just get bored without a challenge LOL ;)

[martyrprojekt]

Well this grow has gone extremely well...up to this point. All of my plants are too heavy at the tops and had to be cut. The plants were falling over, They didn't have enough support and sticks and wire was not enough this time. I literally had huge crowns of buds...they average weight of each crown was 5 pounds wet.

I cut what was falling over and I left the rest there. My one design flaw to this room...I need a support cage if I am going to let these plants get this big...REMEMBER only two weeks of vegging.

[StickyBuds1987]

wow Marty props man lets see some pics lol it would be nice for all of us to get together and share our bud every now and then lol :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Micsog]

now you think when mj is legalized this year you should contact websters dictionary an have them ad a pic of those huge blu dream nugs under the description of EPIC !

now imagine a pole barn full of those nugs when it's legal

[GetThisOrDie]

Whats up?

Been away for awhile but im back now and i must say that your epic grow is truely epic indeed.

Those buds look like they eat other buds for breakfast! Too bad about having to cut the tops but damn...5 pounds? those things are massive! Grats on another great run.

[martyrprojekt]

Allright...So harvest is complete...drying is done. Onto the cure. I already have sampled some of the product...and it is FANTASTIC! It is glowing. It put me to sleep the two times I smoked this week. It is a floor hitter.

Total current weight is around 20 pounds. This grow has been a nice haul.:jointsmile:

I am planning my next grow...SKYWALKER KUSH! I am looking forward to this immensely! It will be a 6 week grow with bushmaster. Join me for my next grow episode...and I will also be documenting my new strain development (I call it Molotov Cocktail).

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[tinytoon]

20 friggin pounds?? Holy ape shit!! :wtf:

[headshake]

nice harvest! nice next choice (it's on my to grow list) and can't wait to see the molotav cocktail in action either!


-shake

[AquaponicHerb]

you harvested already?

[GetThisOrDie]

Hell yah nice harvest dude... grats!

[StickyBuds1987]

nice man 20 pounds damn pics?

[martyrprojekt]

you want pics of my jars?? ha ha ha!

I will take a couple plics of these fire buds...they glow!:jointsmile:

[demoreal]

What's up Marty, Nice Grow!:)
How many lights did you use and what were there wattage? How much space did you grow in?
Nice job.

[martyrprojekt]

4000 watts...20x30 room...

[demoreal]

That is a huge grow.
I was under the impression that you had 3 trays with 6 plants in each. Can you take a shot of the whole grow room?
I could only imagine what that would look like. That is about the size of the underground cave in Tennessee.

[tinytoon]

thats a huge room!! my friggin Basement room is only like 12x8 and I thought that was good sized ...... :wtf:

[martyrprojekt]

I have two flowering rooms. I am only taking pictures of one of my 15x10 bedrooms (as this is my Blue Dream grow). I also have another locale for mothers, crossing strains, etc.

Each 10x15 room has (6) 2x4 trays...(3) 1000 watt lights. I did cover this in the beginning of this post I swear...:thumbsup:

[martyrprojekt]

BTW new grow is already in VEG for a week...You will see pictures once I flip to bud!!!

Purple Kush, Skywalker Kush, and GREEEEEEEN Crack! I wanted some variety in this room!