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jamesbud420
03-07-2010, 12:25 AM
so will this plant produce any thc because it keeps growing and the leaves have started to expand more as i do not know if it is a male or female yet. As these are much better quality pics than before and should i bother to continue its life or start over? Is their anything i can do with this guy/girl? also included is a picture of the space i have to work with and the lights as well 2 60w and one 20w so total 140w

jamesbud420
03-07-2010, 12:29 AM
as i am in desperate need of guidance

cigarettes42
03-07-2010, 12:55 AM
congratulations! you have the most stretched out plant i have ever seen. its caused by not enough light and the light isnt close enough to the plant. i would honestly start over if its some bag seed. whats that silly contraption its planted in?

jamesbud420
03-07-2010, 01:07 AM
its a autofeed hydro with an nutrient strip underneath is their any thc in this plant though?

redtails
03-07-2010, 01:28 AM
Not until it buds for all intesive purposes, and it's at least 2.5 months away from harvest...

SpaceNeedle
03-07-2010, 04:22 AM
Cigarette42 is absolutely right, its stretched badly. It can be saved, and if you want to save it, the first thing I would do is take a string and tie it to the top of the plant and slowly bend it over as much as you can without breaking the stem. See if you can bend it so its almost an upside down "U". Then take your lights and get them within 3 or 4 inches to what is now the top. ....and then get a proper light, or at least more light.


SN

jamesbud420
03-07-2010, 12:08 PM
will this guy have any thc in him?

cigarettes42
03-07-2010, 12:40 PM
none

tinytoon
03-07-2010, 01:07 PM
no thc atm but will have when older. I suggest reading ALOT!!!! I'm not trying to be an ass but asking bout buds when not flowering, wondering if plant has any thc when it is barely a toothpick. Like I said I'm not trying to be an ass but you need to atleast read the basics and from what I can see you kinda threw a seed in, it sprouted and now your looking for people online to answer all your questions because you didnt read anything. Simple question for ya, what's your PH at?? and what is the stuff that looks like sand??

Vancefish
03-07-2010, 02:01 PM
ROFLMAO!

Is there any THC in HIM! LOL

I say cut HIM down and smoke HIM (if you think sticks and leaves are good smoke!).

It's painfully obvious this person has read very little about growing. So I'll give some advise.

First, plant a seed however you did it before. BUT put it in soil, not a cat auto waterer.

Then get your CFL bulbs within 2-3 inches of the top of the leaves (adjust as needed (best is bulbs with a 6500K rating)).

Grow the plant for a month or so, adding as many CFL lights as you can during the growing (veg) period.

Once they are as big as you want. Give them 12 hours of light and 12 hours of DARK. (this makes the plant make buds). It's best to switch all your 6500K bulbs to 2100K CFLs at this point, Buds need RED light, Growing needs more blue light.

AFTER 8-12 WEEKS of 12/12, You'll have buds ready to harvest. THEN and only THEN will you have product full of THC.:thumbsup:

Total amount of time needed to make a large THC coated bud-y plant,... 16 weeks from a seed. Assuming you don't do something odd like flower that thing you've already grown AS IS.

So, stop asking if your stick with two leaves has THC! :D

Vancefish
03-07-2010, 02:27 PM
Figured sence reading isn't likely going to happen overnight (but could :D) I could post some pics.

First is my seedling under three 23w (60w equ?) CFLs. (one-ish weeks)

Second is AFTER adding two shop lights, FOUR more CFLs and still having the three CFLs I started with. PLUS I had direct sun light. (About one month of VEG) This is where I started bending the plant (LST).

Third is the same plant (more tied back) after 10 more days of VEG.

Fourth is the same plant LAST WEEK! with ONE week of flower.

Last pic is Yesterday! Those fuzzy balls on the tops of the branches,... THOSE are buds with THC. However they will not be ready for another 6-8 weeks!

jamesbud420
03-07-2010, 05:08 PM
dont HIJACK my thread post your own thanks for the advice guys i will probably let him continue to grow for another three weeks and make some nice ice tea see what kinda flavor it is knowing that their will be no thc. as this was a first time grow and i just threw the seed in their after letting it germinate. and what appears to be sand is some type of white rock very brittle. Its on a balanced feed solution to

Brainy
03-07-2010, 07:28 PM
Research, research, research! Get some personal trial and errors experienced. Error! Can't get much worse. At least you could sprout it. Nice pics Vance.

jamesbud420
03-07-2010, 08:29 PM
well ill be able to grow again next month and from the looks of my growing device do you think i will be able to support life for a female and male plant?

bigtopsfinn
03-07-2010, 09:12 PM
I don't think anyone's hijacking here, Vancefish is showing you what your plant should look like...

Your growing device will not grow cannabis. PERIOD. You'll need dixie cups to start in, 1-2 gallon pots to replant in, and 3-5 gallon pots to finish in. Try out soil first, then switch to hydro/coco once you get the hang of things. And only 1 plant per container.

You need to do a lot of reading if you really want to produce something smokeable. Start here: http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/127522-simple-noob-instructions-growin-da-dankness.html The first post has a link to Growroom Setup. Check out the Indoor Growing/Indoor Lighting section for info about lighting. The stickies (in red) at the top of each forum are stickies because the information is GOLDEN, and shouldn't be ignored.

You have already received a lot of good tips and information here, yet no responses from you as to whether you're actually taking anyone's advice. Did you lower the lights? Did you get more lights? Are you willing to dish out a few hundred bucks and spend hours upon hours of reading how to grow cannabis? If the answer is no to any of these, then you are just wasting people's time here.

Happy growing :jointsmile:

jamesbud420
03-07-2010, 10:52 PM
yes i am but this is all the space i have to work with and i will be getting new lights and my device that i have did sustain two plants at one point.:thumbsup:

busybee
03-08-2010, 12:03 AM
i use a different device that holds only 1 plant at any one time,its a pot,and you put a plant in it,its called a plant-pot.you should try it!!!

jamesbud420
03-08-2010, 12:04 AM
i use a different device that holds only 1 plant at any one time,its a pot,and you put a plant in it,its called a plant-pot.you should try it!!!

but it doesnt have a auto feed system.......

cigarettes42
03-08-2010, 12:27 AM
but it doesnt have a auto feed system.......

that auto feed system is garbage bro. sorry to burst your bubble. that nutrient strip you talk about isnt even designed to grow cannabis. the npk ratio is probably geared toward common household plants. how old are you?

jamesbud420
03-08-2010, 05:32 AM
than why is it continuing to grow? from what i see the color on the plant is healthy

cigarettes42
03-08-2010, 06:02 AM
the color may look good but what ever feeds that system isnt designed to flower cannabis. during flowering stage cannabis needs a different ratio of nutrients which that thing cannot provide. it can maybe only provide vegetative plants and thats it. if you really think your set up is good, run with it and waste your time, not ours....

bigtopsfinn
03-08-2010, 08:10 AM
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tinytoon
03-08-2010, 11:56 AM
I second the question .... how old are you?? My opionon is your a young kid trying to grow something in your bedroom without mom and pops finding out. You won't listen to what everyone is trying to tell you. You have been told numerous times that your setup will NOT work correctly for what you want. I can understand the problem of cash being tight but how much did that "hydro" unit of your cost? Give me a bucket, air pump and couple of air stones and your in business for under $20!! You are not even close when it comes to light, don't get me wrong you can grow with cfl's but not when they are 2 ft away from the stick (sorry I mean plant). Here is my last bit of advice and you can do whatever you want with it, get a couple more years under you, move outa mom and pops house and get apt or something (that way mom and pop dont get in trouble when you tell all your friends and LEO comes knocking), save up some cash to get correct equipment (E-bay or Craigslist is good place to start), and READ READ READ!!!!!! Read every sticky on this site then search the type of growing you plan on doing and read that. When your done reading go back and read the basic stuff 1 or 2 more times! Again I must apologize if I am coming off as an ass but enough is enough. Trash the stick my clones are bigger and healthier than that! :wtf:

Vancefish
03-08-2010, 01:54 PM
dont HIJACK my thread post your own thanks for the advice guys i will probably let him continue to grow for another three weeks and make some nice ice tea see what kinda flavor it is knowing that their will be no thc. as this was a first time grow and i just threw the seed in their after letting it germinate. and what appears to be sand is some type of white rock very brittle. Its on a balanced feed solution to


You asked about LST, AND you asked about CFLs. SO, I answered with a post telling you EXACTLY how to fix YOUR problem. I even posted pics for YOU to see what can be done. I gave you a link to my first grow to get MORE information on what YOU asked.

You thank me by ignoring it all, and claim I'm hijacking your thread.:thumbsup:

My opinion is,... Do what you want! Grow a 5 foot two leaf stick for all I care.

Hope it IS a He as you so fondly keep calling it. Your not to far from it falling over dead ALL on it's own anyway. All it needs is a little more stretch, maybe when it gets a bit taller MAYBE grows an extra set of leaves. Then that sand your in won't hold the weight.... FLUMP... DEAD!

Mmmm Seedling tea,.... What a complete waste of time!

OH BTW, it's NOT growing, it's stretching to try to get enough light! Your plant is BEYOND stretched. THIS is a stretched plant at 2 weeks since a seed!

jamesbud420
03-08-2010, 02:57 PM
well i thank you guys for your advice plus i live in a dorm at college so i cant have a grow room ppl if i do i get kicked out so this is all i can have

Vancefish
03-08-2010, 03:12 PM
No one said you needed a grow room. Many people have a grow BOX.

Look in grow logs. In there you can see a thread called tiny DWC. THAT guy is growing hydroponic in a COMPUTER CASE!

He however read a LOT! He's using CFLs that are CLOSE to the plant, not 3-5 feet away.

HOWEVER! Is it really worth loosing you college education over this? If you were to get a plant up to flower. It will smell a LOT! Your dorm supervisor will surely catch you once that smell picks up!

I say drop it! Kill that twig and throw it away a couple blocks down the street before it cost you everything.

It's already a failior anyway!

Vancefish
03-08-2010, 03:22 PM
Oops, sorry it's http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/180331-super-small-g-13-dwc.html

But there is the link so you don't have to even look around.

stra8outtaWeed
03-08-2010, 05:01 PM
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this say it all....thanks for the laugh this morning!:S2:

drudown11
03-09-2010, 02:52 AM
well i thank you guys for your advice plus i live in a dorm at college so i cant have a grow room ppl if i do i get kicked out so this is all i can have

well i would get rid of that shit now then. I would feel like a real dumbass if i got caught for growing that. Plus a dorm room is probably one of the worst places to grow marijuana.To be honest its such a half ass fucking set up that i dont even think the police would think your were growing pot. Its probably one of the WORST MARIJUANA GROWING ATTEMPTS IVE EVER SEEN.

You have two household lamps pointed on the damn thing and your asking us if thats enough? HAVE YOU EVEN READ A SINGLE SENTENCE ON GROWING MARIJUANA?


your set up wont work, period. You will not even get enough leaf to roll a joint with, let alone feel a buzz.

Get a plastic pot , some good soil, and get some lights that are adequate(no house lamps, get a MH, HPS, CFL's, T5's or something)

You should only half too water couple of days. How much more "Auto Feed" do you need than watering twice a week?

You come to a site of marijuana growing enthusiasts and ask us questions like your a ra tard. It makes us wonder if your either a cop, a child, or just a dumbass. You could have answered all of your own questions if you did a simple google search of "How to grow marijuana?"



I know im an asshole................but someone has to be that guy

jamesbud420
03-09-2010, 05:02 AM
as i have stretched the plant and moved the lights closer and the leaves seem to be growing more

Jonesy2010
03-09-2010, 05:50 AM
This site has most of the resources you need to get a good stealth grow going but you need to read, read, read.... I would definatly not be growing in a dorm room; Once your plant gets big enough to even start budding it will smell potent. Why get kicked out or have your stuff stolen for doing a half ass grow. Not worth it the pot you will get.

either invest some $$$, read a lot, or go back to buyin.

cheers,

MJ

tinytoon
03-09-2010, 11:50 AM
ok it is perfectly clear to me that jamesbud420 has his head shoved up his arse and isnt going to listen to anything we say. So I will just sit back and laugh my arse off reading this thread as it continues. Oh btw if in fact you really are in college and are representing what the next generation has to offer I guess there is only one thing to say for us older peeps that will be looking to that generation to take care of us ................... we're screwed! :wtf:

RAINHAZE
03-09-2010, 12:00 PM
ok it is perfectly clear to me that jamesbud420 has his head shoved up his arse and isnt going to listen to anything we say. So I will just sit back and laugh my arse off reading this thread as it continues. Oh btw if in fact you really are in college and are representing what the next generation has to offer I guess there is only one thing to say for us older peeps that will be looking to that generation to take care of us ................... we're screwed! :wtf:

ROFLMAO!!

Vancefish
03-09-2010, 03:47 PM
ok it is perfectly clear to me that jamesbud420 has his head shoved up his arse and isnt going to listen to anything we say. So I will just sit back and laugh my arse off reading this thread as it continues. Oh btw if in fact you really are in college and are representing what the next generation has to offer I guess there is only one thing to say for us older peeps that will be looking to that generation to take care of us ................... we're screwed! :wtf:

Yep.

And I hate to say it, but for a college student his grammer, punctuation and spelling is horrid. When I left high school I wasn't considered a great student. Thus my only college option was, self paid community college. TODAY, I see SO many students who don't even come close to my level of education, and they NOW get scholerships! :wtf:

People think the US is so free, and educated. ONLY an uneducated, uninformed person, could honestly believe WE are free OR educated. Most of our youth currently have less education when they reach college, then our elementry students did just fifty years ago.

That is scary!

I still say KILL IT!:jointsmile:

busybee
03-09-2010, 11:56 PM
Yep.

And I hate to say it, but for a college student his grammer, punctuation and spelling is horrid. When I left high school I wasn't considered a great student. Thus my only college option was, self paid community college. TODAY, I see SO many students who don't even come close to my level of education, and they NOW get scholerships! :wtf:

People think the US is so free, and educated. ONLY an uneducated, uninformed person, could honestly believe WE are free OR educated. Most of our youth currently have less education when they reach college, then our elementry students did just fifty years ago.

That is scary!

I still say KILL IT!:jointsmile::thumbsup:i could not agree more with you and tinytoon,its no different in the uk.:wtf:

Brainy
03-11-2010, 04:55 AM
as i have stretched the plant and moved the lights closer and the leaves seem to be growing more

Sorry but don't waste our time. Waste a little of your own first and throw that twig!

goncho27
03-12-2010, 01:55 PM
I have been growing this fucker for 16 weeks now and yet i see no buds....I had it under 6500k light (22 hours a day) for 11 weeks before changing the light and now im using two 65w (12/12).....its been 4 weeks now and I see nothing but leaves. Any tips?

Vancefish
03-12-2010, 02:09 PM
I have been growing this fucker for 16 weeks now and yet i see no buds....I had it under 6500k light (22 hours a day) for 11 weeks before changing the light and now im using two 65w (12/12).....its been 4 weeks now and I see nothing but leaves. Any tips?

Sorry can't see anything in those pics.

Here's some good link to pics you can see.

Male hermi : http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/182245-did-male-turn-into-hermie.html
Regular male: http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/182260-male-female.html

Female :http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/181721-female-plant-question.html

BTW, I found all those threads on the basic growing section, all on the first page.:thumbsup:

Vancefish
03-12-2010, 03:29 PM
I have been growing this fucker for 16 weeks now and yet i see no buds....I had it under 6500k light (22 hours a day) for 11 weeks before changing the light and now im using two 65w (12/12).....its been 4 weeks now and I see nothing but leaves. Any tips?

You mention you grew it under 6500K lighting, but no mention of wattage.

You say your currently flowering under 2 65w. This is REALLY WEAK LIGHTING! Weak lighting can slow progress.

You mention nothing of your dark space. Is this in a closet? Might there be any light leaks during the night cycle?

You might want to start your own thread, because this one is not even on the subject your asking about.

This thread is an idiot college student trying to throw his life away over a two dollar stick. :D People are tired of this guy not paying attention. So not many will reply or even look at this thread.

goncho27
03-12-2010, 05:48 PM
ok i will do that...post a new tread with more details i hope you can help me out on this.

thanx a lot

tinytoon
03-12-2010, 10:10 PM
Vance your killing me LOL :S2:

demoreal
03-12-2010, 10:47 PM
you seriously should not risk your college education for a plant. at least plant in some hidden place outside. seriously think what you are doing. throw that plant out.

demoreal
03-12-2010, 10:50 PM
i don't know how you even got in to college. but don't wast it.

drudown11
03-16-2010, 07:06 PM
damn you guys sure ripped this kid a new one. hahah

lifted247
03-16-2010, 07:26 PM
Im not gonna come in and be any more of an ass than everyone else lol even though you deserve it jamesbud420, but I will say something for you, Google is a powerful, I mean powerful tool my friends. you can literally find millions of articles on each individual stage throughout a cannabis plants life, and then millions more on each of the tiny random things tht could ever possibly go wrong with it. But since everyone here has told you that, over and over, try this. go to Wal Mart (this is for the simplest dorm grow ever) get two 2ft 6500 k fourescent tube fixters and a couple of 26W CFL's, take a solo cup, fill with good soil, plant seed, if it sprouts, grow it, you can place flourescent bulbs like 2 or 3 inchs away from plant, a reading lamp is nt a grow lamp. once it gets the size you want it, go by some 2700 k cfls, throw em where the other ones were flower that bitch, oh yeah (that meas putting it under 12/12 light cycle) and it will turn out 10 billion times better than what you have here. This is like a 50 dallar investment, and even then youll prolly only get a half O at the most, but at least you can lose your virginity , ( and what your doing now, you still have your virginity, your first grow is like a bad sex story gone wrong, like way wrong. good luck, and man you guys made me crack up through this entire forum lol college come on kid, you need to drop out and go to common sense school

lifted247
03-16-2010, 07:30 PM
Oh yeah, also did anyone else see the name of this thread, its , "IT WONT STOP GROWING, I NEED HELP" like when i clicked on it i was thinking likthis enourmous plant portruding out of the door of someones closet, like in scary movie where the plant rolls damon waynes up and smokes him hahaha, this thread should have been called simply, " I NEED HELP", or "IT WONT GROW AT ALL, I NEED HELP" or I DONT KNOW HOW TO USE GOOGLE, I NEED HELP" anyone else think of some clever ones lol i could go all day

tinytoon
03-16-2010, 09:55 PM
the most stretched twig known to mankind

martyrprojekt
03-17-2010, 12:44 AM
Allright...this thread is awesome. I love that this guy is all worried about getting in trouble (DUDE...you are growing this plant on your nightstand...Your RA will spot it walking down the hallway...moron).

And, yes...I work with the younger generation...and they are THIS STUPID. I see people getting fired from a great Union job that pays them 60-70K per year for theft and not showing up to work. And they complain when they have to actually work. :wtf::wtf::wtf:

I gotta wonder...Maybe we should stop coddling them and treat them the way we were...like shit! It made is tougher and prepared us for the world. My dad used to threaten to take me out...and make one better. I think we are protecting these little punks sooo much that we are not letting natural selection take its course. Now JOhnny dumbass is able to live and procreate. WE ARE ALL SCREWED.

Here's my advice...if your kid is a dumbass...let him play outside in traffic. Do the world a favor :D