Help Stop Statewide Bill which Threatens Patient Rights

[canaguy27]

Help Stop Statewide Bill which Threatens Patient Rights
**Hearing Thursday at 1:30 PM**

On Thursday, March 4, starting at 1:30pm, the Colorado State Legislature will hear the first reading of a bill which seeks to regulate dispensariesâ?? and weaken patient rights. This bill, HB 1284, which was largely authored by law enforcement, threatens to cripple the state medical marijuana law in a number of ways. (You can read HB 1284 by clicking here)
Here are a few of the most damaging provisions of the bill:

Prohibits patients from living near schools. Patients could not possess medicine within 1000 feet of a school, which means patients could not live near schools.

Patients could not join together with family members or others to share grow space.

Would allow cities and towns to ban dispensariesâ?? forcing sick patients to â??get on the busâ?� to find medicine.

Hereâ??s how you can help fight HB 1284

Attend the Thursday Hearing. Legislators need to hear from patients and professionals about how damaging HB 1284 will be. This Hearing should begin around 1:30 at the State Capitol in Denver in the Old Supreme Court Chambers (2nd floor). Please show up, dress nice, and spread the message to â??vote no on HB 1284.â?�

Call your state legislator

Every state legislator should hear how bad HB 1284 is.

Help Stop Statewide Bill which Threatens Patient Rights (http://medicinalmarijuanaofcolorado.com/showthread.php?430-Help-Stop-Statewide-Bill-which-Threatens-Patient-Rights)

[TurboALLWD]

Help Stop Statewide Bill which Threatens Patient Rights
**Hearing Thursday at 1:30 PM**

On Thursday, March 4, starting at 1:30pm, the Colorado State Legislature will hear the first reading of a bill which seeks to regulate dispensariesâ?? and weaken patient rights. This bill, HB 1284, which was largely authored by law enforcement, threatens to cripple the state medical marijuana law in a number of ways. (You can read HB 1284 by clicking here)
Here are a few of the most damaging provisions of the bill:

Prohibits patients from living near schools. Patients could not possess medicine within 1000 feet of a school, which means patients could not live near schools.

Patients could not join together with family members or others to share grow space.

Would allow cities and towns to ban dispensariesâ?? forcing sick patients to â??get on the busâ?� to find medicine.

Hereâ??s how you can help fight HB 1284

Attend the Thursday Hearing. Legislators need to hear from patients and professionals about how damaging HB 1284 will be. This Hearing should begin around 1:30 at the State Capitol in Denver in the Old Supreme Court Chambers (2nd floor). Please show up, dress nice, and spread the message to â??vote no on HB 1284.â?�

Call your state legislator

Every state legislator should hear how bad HB 1284 is.

Help Stop Statewide Bill which Threatens Patient Rights (http://medicinalmarijuanaofcolorado.com/showthread.php?430-Help-Stop-Statewide-Bill-which-Threatens-Patient-Rights)


I'll be there and everybody that I know will be there. Are you posting this on any other forums like ICMAG? I hope everyone that could be effected by this will show up and voice their opinions!

[Kartel]

Half the patients I know can't even afford these pot docs at current prices, I hate to see what this bill will do if passed. I think these politicians don't respect or care for veterans, or they wouldn't write the law like this.

Hope to see you all there! Lets sink this thing! :mad:

[canaguy27]

yeah i posted in around a few sites, but please pass it on. i found the original message from Sensible Colorado, but they really struggle on getting the message out there

[canaguy27]

Here is the bill for tomorrow:
http://vvoice.vo.llnwd.net/e6/4509836.0.pdf

[lampost]

That's a real slap in the face to patients living near a school! They're basically assuming that all patients are drug dealers!
So patients are just supposed to pack up and move?

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

in mortgage lending thats called red lining, again i say ...traitors



meded so you can mededicateto mededitate

[COzigzag]

They just said, as it applies to HB 10-1284, the 1000' rule applies only to Medical Marijuana Centers. It does not apply to caregivers or patients. But that may also change.

Listen in over the internet:

Colorado General Assembly: Audio (http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2008a/cslFrontPages.nsf/Audio?OpenForm)

Click on "Old Supreme Court Chambers" in the lower right corner.

[COzigzag]

They just said, as it applies to HB 10-1284, the 1000' rule applies only to Medical Marijuana Centers. It does not apply to caregivers or patients. But that may also change.

Listen in over the internet:

Colorado General Assembly: Audio (http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2008a/cslFrontPages.nsf/Audio?OpenForm)

Click on "Old Supreme Court Chambers" in the lower right corner.

There was some confusion and frustration yesterday because the bill shown on the 2010 Colorado Legislation Session website is not the current bill. A few copies of the current bill (HB1284_L.002) was passed out to the crowd yesterday. This purposed bill specifically states the 1000' rule for patient/caregivers:

(7) Use of medical marijuana.

(a) THE USE OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW TO THE EXTENT THAT IT IS CARRIED OUT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 14 OF ARTICLE XVIII OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION, THIS SECTION, AND THE RULES OF THE STATE HEALTH AGENCY.

1 (b) A PATIENT OR PRIMARY CAREGIVER SHALL NOT:

2 (I) ENGAGE IN THE MEDICAL USE OF MARIJUANA IN A WAY THAT
3 ENDANGERS THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF A PERSON;

4 (II) ENGAGE IN THE MEDICAL USE OF MARIJUANA IN PLAIN VIEW OF
5 OR IN A PLACE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC;

6 (III) UNDERTAKE ANY TASK WHILE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF
7 MEDICAL MARIJUANA, WHEN DOING SO WOULD CONSTITUTE NEGLIGENCE
8 OR PROFESSIONAL MALPRACTICE;

9 (IV) POSSESS MEDICAL MARIJUANA OR OTHERWISE ENGAGE IN THE
10 USE OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA:

11 (A) IN A SCHOOL BUS; OR

12 (B) ON THE GROUNDS OF OR WITHIN ONE THOUSAND FEET OF THE
13 PERIMETER OF A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PRESCHOOL OR A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE
14 ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, JUNIOR HIGH, OR HIGH SCHOOL;

[HighPopalorum]

Mmm... the dispensary owners I've talked to support this bill, although with lukewarm enthusiasm. They all say it will give them some guidance from the state and believe the increased legitimacy and regulation will protect their businesses. I'm not very upset by the bill either. I think the 1000 foot restriction is sensible when applied to dispensaries. In fact, our town put that rule in place back in October. I also think it's fine for communities to issue moratoriums or ban dispensaries altogether.

All in all, I see the bill as a wash - it strengthens and legitimates the dispensary model, which is good but it also places some light restrictions on patients. One good thing about passing a regulatory bill now is that it puts the issue to rest before the November elections, at which time the legislature is going to become more conservative. I'd rather see a flawed bill now, than something truly draconian in eight months. I'm not sure 1284 is the bill I want, but it's definitely not all bad and could be worse.

[COzigzag]

I think the 1000 foot restriction is sensible when applied to dispensaries.

My interpretation from listening in on the session yesterday:

There are 83 (don't quote me on that number) "centers" that will be grandfathered and this 1000 foot rule will not apply to them.

I'm not saying this will happen but I'm throwing it out there for food for thought:

As this bill reads in the present form, the grandfathered centers will be exempt from this rule but what about the patients entering these centers to purchase medicine? I doubt they are covered.

[palerider7777]

Mmm... the dispensary owners I've talked to support this bill, although with lukewarm enthusiasm. They all say it will give them some guidance from the state and believe the increased legitimacy and regulation will protect their businesses. I'm not very upset by the bill either. I think the 1000 foot restriction is sensible when applied to dispensaries. In fact, our town put that rule in place back in October. I also think it's fine for communities to issue moratoriums or ban dispensaries altogether.

All in all, I see the bill as a wash - it strengthens and legitimates the dispensary model, which is good but it also places some light restrictions on patients. One good thing about passing a regulatory bill now is that it puts the issue to rest before the November elections, at which time the legislature is going to become more conservative. I'd rather see a flawed bill now, than something truly draconian in eight months. I'm not sure 1284 is the bill I want, but it's definitely not all bad and could be worse.
lmao you really think this bill is it? you would rather see a flawed bill now then in 8 months? why do you think they will stop after this bill?

and the whole shops like it because it gives them guidance how do you fig that 1?

[lampost]

How can you support this? Do you know how many schools are out there? And then you put a 1000' radius on them? That will knock out a large percentage of patients right there.

This is totally fucked up! Its designed for law enforcement to still be able to arrest people! Do you think patients will stop smoking because there's a school 2 blocks away!? Hell No! This bill just makes it so the cops can arrest people near schools (which is likely more than 25% percent of Denver)! This is a calculated (sneaky) move to deal a huge blow to the MM patients. Schools are perfectly spread out through the city, a perfect was to stop the growth of MM. Would you even consider not allowing cancer or AIDS patients to consume their other meds since a school happens to be 2-3 blocks down the road!?

I'm going to try to get something out together on Google Earth so you can see the extent of it!

[palerider7777]

How can you support this? Do you know how many schools are out there? And then you put a 1000' radius on them? That will knock out a large percentage of patients right there.

This is totally fucked up! Its designed for law enforcement to still be able to arrest people! Do you think patients will stop smoking because there's a school 2 blocks away!? Hell No! This bill just makes it so the cops can arrest people near schools (which is likely more than 25% percent of Denver)! This is a calculated (sneaky) move to deal a huge blow to the MM patients. Schools are perfectly spread out through the city, a perfect was to stop the growth of MM. Would you even consider not allowing cancer or AIDS patients to consume their other meds since a school happens to be 2-3 blocks down the road!?

I'm going to try to get something out together on Google Earth so you can see the extent of it!
agreed 110% thats what i was gunna say. doctors try to give me lortab10 and other junk like that. but it's ok for me to have that but if i have a joint then im a pos if i live near a school? i don't live close to one but thats not the point. the point is this say you dropped an oz of weed on a school playground and also an oz of pain pills and kids got ahold of them any one with a brain would know which bag would kill the kid that found and ate or used them....

the next move in the next bill would read something like this.can not grow or use if you have kids in the home.....see how that works it's called baby step.and the gov knows how to use these steps very well.iv'e said this many times to people not just on mmj but in all the laws they push.they start off small and they only do enough in each step to maybe piss some or half the people off.but not enough for them to do anything. most will think like the post above "it's not that bad"lmao yea but the 10 bills they bring to the table when all put together = no more rights for you and all the power for them.

but what do i know im an "idiot" remember lmao......

btw i wonder how this would effect homeschools?

[lampost]

agreed 110% thats what i was gunna say. doctors try to give me lortab10 and other junk like that. but it's ok for me to have that but if i have a joint then im a pos if i live near a school? i don't live close to one but thats not the point. the point is this say you dropped an oz of weed on a school playground and also an oz of pain pills and kids got ahold of them any one with a brain would know which bag would kill the kid that found and ate or used them....

the next move in the next bill would read something like this.can not grow or use if you have kids in the home.....see how that works it's called baby step.and the gov knows how to use these steps very well.iv'e said this many times to people not just on mmj but in all the laws they push.they start off small and they only do enough in each step to maybe piss some or half the people off.but not enough for them to do anything. most will think like the post above "it's not that bad"lmao yea but the 10 bills they bring to the table when all put together = no more rights for you and all the power for them.

but what do i know im an "idiot" remember lmao......

btw i wonder how this would effect homeschools?

Word!

Opiates are becoming the scourge of our youth. These drugs will FUCK YOUR LIFE UP!!!

I've seen three of my friends die from OVERDOSES of pain pills... I've seen others ruin their lives from opiate addiction....

Yet, it's OK to have these right next door to a school?? I'm more and more convinced that the pharmaceutical lobby is WAY STRONGER than anyone wants to believe....

[lampost]

Mmm... the dispensary owners I've talked to support this bill, although with lukewarm enthusiasm. They all say it will give them some guidance from the state and believe the increased legitimacy and regulation will protect their businesses. I'm not very upset by the bill either. I think the 1000 foot restriction is sensible when applied to dispensaries. In fact, our town put that rule in place back in October. I also think it's fine for communities to issue moratoriums or ban dispensaries altogether.

All in all, I see the bill as a wash - it strengthens and legitimates the dispensary model, which is good but it also places some light restrictions on patients. One good thing about passing a regulatory bill now is that it puts the issue to rest before the November elections, at which time the legislature is going to become more conservative. I'd rather see a flawed bill now, than something truly draconian in eight months. I'm not sure 1284 is the bill I want, but it's definitely not all bad and could be worse.

OK... you apparently don't see the true intentions of this bill... hopefully this will help.

I took a quick random view of Denver from Google Maps... it happens to be from the Highlands area. You'll see in the first picture I drew a 1000' radius around all the schools in the area (and I doubt Google Earth even shows them all). The second picture shows them filled in just to give you a better idea of the land area involved!

These pictures aren't accurate to the foot because I had to draw them up in MS Paint... however, it's very close and should give an accurate representation of land coverage that they are proposing!

What about some poor old cancer patient whose locked in a mortgage 900' from a school! What the fuck are they supposed to do!? Just pick up and move? I doubt that's going to happen... so then we're going to arrest these sick people?

Pale, excellent point about the baby steps! That is exactly what is happening... we got people on our own side saying, "Oh well, it's not really gonna affect me... we can give 'em this one". We all need to think about the seriously-ill patients that are affected by this bill... because Pale is right. In a few months they won't allow you to grow in a residential building.... or with kids.... then what?

[TheReleafCenter]

It's hard to call the first real attempt at any legislation a slippery slope, though. Regulation was inevitable, what they do after it passes is the true test of how far they want to push. I think conceding a dispensary model at all shows that they're willing to compromise. Our side seems to be the more obstinate of the two. I can't help finding myself agreeing a lot more with what Matt Brown is saying than, say, Corry.

Jake

[Vancefish]

I just read that entire bill, I feel like this :stoned: looks, but have yet to consume. :D

Anyway, I read this to be just as bad as the last Romer bill. Any body who is deemed a person of questionable standards, can be denied a licence to not only OWN a grow or dispensary, but would not be allowed to even HIRE someone deemed a person with a questionable history.

This says to me, ANYONE who has solid growing experience COULD be deemed questionable DUE TO that experience.

No felonies EVER! (growing and distributing MMJ is a federal felony).

Add to that the signs are back! It clearly states that anyone who wants to get a license to grow or sell must hang signs on the building(22" X ??"), plus be posted in the local paper AND have a public hearing to get the license. Meaning EVERYONE knows where your growing because there's a sign!

Then the no possession within 1000' of ANY school. Blocking half the states patients from possessing their meds. What does that mean driving home from the dispensary? I get pulled over three blocks from a school I can't even see. Is a route even possible to avoid school zones?:wtf:

If this passes, it's not just us compromising,... It's us loosing. Most dispensaries will close due to the MANY open interpretations left in this bill, but also due to the owner, or an employee having a 6-50 year old crime record (like growing MJ).

If my back wasn't so sore I might have written out a line by line. However if you haven't actually read this atrocity AND you think it's just a few compromises. GO READ IT!

http://vvoice.vo.llnwd.net/e6/4509836.0.pdf

[HighPopalorum]

I take your point, lamppost. We debated it here in Durango last year. The 1000 foot rule already applies to liquor stores and gun shops, and they're doing fine in town. I consulted a friend of mine, a retired city planner, and he pointed out that even if a business complies with all state and local laws, including the 1000 foot rule, the city is still not obligated to issue a business permit. When the ordinance passed, there was one dispensary that had to be grandfathered because it was adjacent to both a school and a park, but that wasn't a problem. Maybe it wouldn't work in a major metro area with more schools, but the policy works fine here, as far as I can tell. Also, FWIW, I don't think this policy could be legally applied to patients and their homes. The wording of the bill should be changed to reflect that.

Blah blah blah - I'm medicated. :jointsmile: Long story short: the 1000 foot rule works fine here, but maybe not everywhere.

[TurboALLWD]

The quote below was copied from the other thread about HB1284. And what do they mean by a patient or caregiver can not undertake any task while under the influence of mmj???



- creates a bloated, multi-million dollar state licensing authority that will wipe you out of existence
- imposes a year-long statewide moratorium on new dispensaries and grow operations
- prohibits people convicted of any felony or drug misdemeanor, including simple possession of a joint, from being a caregiver
- allows local governments to ban medical marijuana facilities altogether
- re-imposes a Five Patient per caregiver limit
- obliterates your constitutional right against self incrimination
- violates your First Amendment rights
- provides that you can lose your medical marijuana license if any of your employees or agents violates any of the voluminous regulations or the law
- provides that patients can lose their licenses if their caregivers violate the law
- requires you to notify the State every time you hire or fire an employee, partnerâ?¦.

Looks like there are plenty of rights being taken away just in this list.

[Vancefish]

Looks like there are plenty of rights being taken away just in this list.

Yea like legal MMJ that can be legally accessed.

As was said above, You think it's expensive now,... Just you wait.

AND, as Robert Cory said about Romers bill. "This will simply drive the entire thing underground, thus ending ALL tax base for the cities, counties and state.

[milehighmediman]

prohibits people convicted of any felony or drug misdemeanor, including simple possession of a joint, from being a caregiver

From what I read and understanding; You can be a "caregiver" as long as it has been 5 years since your conviction.

However you cannot own/run/work for a dispensary if you have been convicted of a crime involving drugs.