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pepurr
02-25-2010, 04:37 AM
Now days, at long last, the tide seems to be turning. People are starting to give serious consideration to the legalization of marijuana. A lot of reasons are put forth in favor of, and against this. You hear arguments that it is safer than alcohol. That it was made illegal because of prejustice. Arguments are made that it is a gateway drug. You hear and read time and again arguments for and against.

I think it goes much deeper than all that. I believe it is a matter of what we want government to be responsible for. In our democracy we have great freedoms. Freedoms fought for and payed for with blood. But something is terribly wrong. Something is broken. Now it seems that if you have enough money, you can get a law passed to influence peoples lives in a way that suites you. It happens every day. Corporations spend billions of dollars to use professional lobbyists to influence law makers, and to garner support for their agenda. So in the end the people, who haven't the power of money, have to work their lives around a huge number of laws. It doesn't matter how they want to live their lives. It only matters that control was welded to beef up some ones bank account.

I'll give an example. Take auto insurance for instance. Who do you think had the biggest stake in getting mandatory auto insurance laws passed. It sure wasn't the guy working on the factory floor, or the lady waiting tables at the local restaurant. It was the big insurance corporations. Now they rake in billions because of it. I'm not saying auto insurance is good or bad. I am saying that, like mandatory auto insurance laws, these laws are passed for the wrong reasons. They are passed in the interest of the bottom line. Not in the interest of liberty or freedom.

I could go on to give many examples of this behavior. I don't have to though. You know it and I know it. We see it every day. Laws passed handing over our rights over to the government in the name of security or safety or any other number of false reasons. So it was done back in the 1930's with marijuana.

Do we really want a government that passes laws that control every aspect of our lives? I think not. After a while it no longer is a government of the people. It is a government of the rich and powerful. After a while the people, who do not have the power, become tools to be used up by the ones that do. Used up and tossed aside like so much trash. After a while it becomes tyranny.

What do we want our federal government to be responsible for? Here is what I want them to be responsible for. Protecting our borders from invaders. Keeping unsafe products from being imported into our country. Passing tariffs on goods imported from countries who aren't dealing fairly in the market. Keeping our rights protected from those who would take them away. Stuff like that.

Things have got far out of hand. It has been building up for many years. I don't want a baby sitter government. I don't want a government that tells me how to live my life. As long as I am not violating another's rights, the government has no business interfering with my day to day activities.

Let your voices be heard, freedom lovers. Commit that act of civil disobedience. I don't even like the sound of the phrase civil disobedience. I see no reason to obey a law that has no real purpose other than to tell me how to live or line some fat cats pockets.

The people in government better remember these words.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. â?? That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, â?? That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

coolslayer
02-25-2010, 07:41 AM
AWESOME POST!

bedrockbob
02-26-2010, 03:55 AM
Excellent post!

In the wilderness, the measure of a man is the arc of his bullets, the depth of his heel print, and the diameter of his turds. What he stuffs his pipe with is his own damn business.

personified
02-26-2010, 01:03 PM
The diameter of his turds. OMFG!!
What he stuffs his pipe with is his own damn business.

I had to follow him around with a little baggy for three days!! :) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ozk7fnKilU)

bedrockbob
02-27-2010, 04:02 AM
The diameter of his turds. OMFG!!
What he stuffs his pipe with is his own damn business.

I had to follow him around with a little baggy for three days!! :) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ozk7fnKilU)

"It's mostly Maui Wowie, but it's got a little Labrador in it"

Charles U Farley
02-27-2010, 04:17 AM
Great post and I concur with most of what you postulated.I would like to add another reason that in 5-8 years (maybe 3) that weed will be legal,REVENUES!!!

Since

Charles U Farley
02-27-2010, 04:27 AM
Great post and I concur with most of what you postulated.I would like to add another reason that in 5-8 years (maybe 3) that weed will be legal,REVENUES!!!

Since the early 80s when the Feds pretty said to the states, "you are on your own" as far as funding goes.With the economic downturn the states are in a tougher spot than ever before,especially CA. This is how the first prohibition ended. With the states and the Feds desperate for revenues alcohol was an easy fix and raised a shit load of money.We are in the same situation now as then. I would expect that CA will legalize weed any time now and once that happens the rest of the country will fall into line like dominos.Its an easy way to raise cash. The big hang up now is big Pharma,Monsanto, and others have been maneuvering for years to figure out how to corner and control this market.Its one of the big reasons we havent seen a great deal of movement on this issue.That is all it boils down to right now is how to best control and corner the market.I saw that the AMA in WI came out against medical weed as there are other treatments,blah blah...and we all know that big pharma owns the AMA.It will happen soon,certainly within the next ten years simply because the govt.and corporations,and banks have squeezed every last penny out of the the working class in this country and are running out of new sources to squeeze.

Just my thoughts on where we are on this issue.Great post and thanks for starting this conversation.Take care and be well my friends,and most of all be safe, Charles.

pepurr
02-27-2010, 04:01 PM
Great post and I concur with most of what you postulated.I would like to add another reason that in 5-8 years (maybe 3) that weed will be legal,REVENUES!!!

Since the early 80s when the Feds pretty said to the states, "you are on your own" as far as funding goes.With the economic downturn the states are in a tougher spot than ever before,especially CA. This is how the first prohibition ended. With the states and the Feds desperate for revenues alcohol was an easy fix and raised a shit load of money.We are in the same situation now as then. I would expect that CA will legalize weed any time now and once that happens the rest of the country will fall into line like dominos.Its an easy way to raise cash. The big hang up now is big Pharma,Monsanto, and others have been maneuvering for years to figure out how to corner and control this market.Its one of the big reasons we havent seen a great deal of movement on this issue.That is all it boils down to right now is how to best control and corner the market.I saw that the AMA in WI came out against medical weed as there are other treatments,blah blah...and we all know that big pharma owns the AMA.It will happen soon,certainly within the next ten years simply because the govt.and corporations,and banks have squeezed every last penny out of the the working class in this country and are running out of new sources to squeeze.

Just my thoughts on where we are on this issue.Great post and thanks for starting this conversation.Take care and be well my friends,and most of all be safe, Charles.

That is always what it boils down to. Money & Control! That is what it will always be about too. That is as long as we have people in office, who are little more than puppets for giant corporations.

Geepers! All of it is a huge bummer. I better take another toke. :hippy:

coolslayer
03-02-2010, 10:19 AM
Excellent post!

In the wilderness, the measure of a man is the arc of his bullets, the depth of his heel print, and the diameter of his turds. What he stuffs his pipe with is his own damn business.

Damned straight!

coolslayer
03-02-2010, 10:20 AM
"It's mostly Maui Wowie, but it's got a little Labrador in it"

I smoked some second generation Maui Wowie last week.