Husband with MS wants to move to NM

[grfxdsnr]

My husband has multiple sclerosis and wants to move to a state with medical marijuana. Currently we're in Illinois and if you know anything about our state you know it will be some time before they pass a MM law around here. :rolleyes:

Can you give us the low down on how this goes in NM? We understand we have to live there, that's a given. He'll need a doctors recommendation too.


Our main question is, how does one go about getting medical marijuana if we keep reading how hard it is to get in NM from a producer?


Has NM passed any new laws to allow more producers? Did they limit the amount one can buy to one ounce like we've read in various websites? Can you grow your own and get from a producer?

NM is a beautiful state and we feel good about choosing the Albuquerque area as our place to live. My husband is also a disabled vet so we'll need to find a civilian doctor for a mm card.

Thanks in advance!

Sandy

[bedrockbob]

My husband has multiple sclerosis and wants to move to a state with medical marijuana. Currently we're in Illinois and if you know anything about our state you know it will be some time before they pass a MM law around here. :rolleyes:

Can you give us the low down on how this goes in NM? We understand we have to live there, that's a given. He'll need a doctors recommendation too.


Our main question is, how does one go about getting medical marijuana if we keep reading how hard it is to get in NM from a producer?


Has NM passed any new laws to allow more producers? Did they limit the amount one can buy to one ounce like we've read in various websites? Can you grow your own and get from a producer?

NM is a beautiful state and we feel good about choosing the Albuquerque area as our place to live. My husband is also a disabled vet so we'll need to find a civilian doctor for a mm card.

Thanks in advance!

Sandy

Here are the answers to all of these questions and a few more.

Medical Cannabis Program - Infectious Disease Bureau (http://www.health.state.nm.us/IDB/medical_cannabis.shtml)

Good luck!

[grfxdsnr]

Thanks for the info. I read that information earlier but appreciate the link.

My concern is what we read recently regarding producers in NM. Is it true there are only one or very few producers that patients end up going without their medical marijuana or have to resort to the streets to get it? I also read the state was lowering the limit to one ounce per patient due to the low amount of producers.

Thanks!

[bedrockbob]

Thanks for the info. I read that information earlier but appreciate the link.

My concern is what we read recently regarding producers in NM. Is it true there are only one or very few producers that patients end up going without their medical marijuana or have to resort to the streets to get it? I also read the state was lowering the limit to one ounce per patient due to the low amount of producers.

Thanks!

No limits of one ounce by the state. Not that I have heard. The info I linked to is the only info there is besides heresay.

Yes, there is a shortage. It has only been a few months since they started licensing growers and there are only a handful of producers so far. Things are growing slowly. There are five licenced producers and about 25 in the licencing process. The State licences as many or as few as the State wants to.

The "Streets" here can mean anything. Yes folks buy it illegally. There is American grown medicine and Mexican dope (how's that for a compromise Coolslayer?). Most of the time American grown weed is not the "streets". It is a friend or close aquaintance. Anyhoo, I hope I answered your question. Albuquerque is a good city and New Mexico is a paradise wilderness. I hope you enjoy it!

[robertjones2001]

Albuquerque has 3 of the 5 currently licensed producers, so getting your medicine in that city OR in Santa Fe is easy. There is no state-imposed limit, but the 4 new producers should be in full production by April. There is a patient advocacy group in Rio Rancho (a suburb of Albuquerque). You can reach them at <http://www.meetup.com/NMMCPG/> There is an email link there to email Paul. He can help you find a local doctor and get your forms filed.

Or, you are welcome to call me and I will try to answer your questions
Robert Jones
Las Vegas, NM
505-425-8282

[grfxdsnr]

Thanks so much! We are excited to get there. We have to wait until the oldest is out of college next May but we're going to do it. NM, after all our research is the our #1 choice so far. You guys just made it even more so! Thanks! I will keep those numbers handy. ;)

That info may have been hearsay. I got it off one of the medical mj sites. if I find the links I'll let you know.

[bedrockbob]

Albuquerque has 3 of the 5 currently licensed producers, so getting your medicine in that city OR in Santa Fe is easy. There is no state-imposed limit, but the 4 new producers should be in full production by April. There is a patient advocacy group in Rio Rancho (a suburb of Albuquerque). You can reach them at <http://www.meetup.com/NMMCPG/> There is an email link there to email Paul. He can help you find a local doctor and get your forms filed.

Or, you are welcome to call me and I will try to answer your questions
Robert Jones
Las Vegas, NM
505-425-8282

Robert,

I have been trying to join that group for several weeks. I am assuming Paul is busy. I met him at the roundhouse and we spoke for a few minutes last Saturday. He probably thinks I am a crackpot because I havent got a response.

Anyhoo, it seems that you are nearly my neighbor! It is good to meet you! Las Vegas is the nearest city to me and I love to eat breakfast at the Hillcrest and at Charlie's cafe. I live just east of the village of San Juan and I am in Las Vegas twice a week.

I would love to get together with patients in our area to synergize! I am anxious to get involved with this group or any other group of patients and find out how I can help.

email me at bedrockbob at yahoo dot com and lets talk!

[grfxdsnr]

One more question that I didn't find on that link. How long must one be a resident to apply for a medical mj card? I can't let Jim go without since it truly helps him. Please tell me a month or so. LOL

And when we get there we'll definitely be open to joining too and getting involved. The more the better! :D

[bedrockbob]

That is a darn good question. I am reading the act and it just says "...resident of New Mexico"...

Call or email them. I have several times and I always get an answer back within a day or two. I dont see how they would want to deny anyone a card with a qualifying condition. I bet communication directly with DOH is the best idea!

[grfxdsnr]

Thanks I'll do that and post here when they respond.

[coolslayer]

I'm sure that you will love New Mexico.

[Sandia]

My husband has multiple sclerosis and wants to move to a state with medical marijuana.

...............

NM is a beautiful state and we feel good about choosing the Albuquerque area as our place to live. My husband is also a disabled vet so we'll need to find a civilian doctor for a mm card.

Thanks in advance!

Sandy

Sandy,

I am sorry to hear about your husbands issues. New Mexico is a state that "takes a bit to get used to"...to quote my family. We have lived here since 2002 (with a break of a couple of years) and have now come back. There is so much to do and see here and if/when you come here, the desires to live anywhere else will go away<----personal experience.:)

You mentioned that your husband was a veteran. Albuquerque has a huge veterans administration hospital in town so he could get care there as well.

Best of luck in your search for a place to live in New Mexico...I am certain that your family will love it here....it is MUCH different than Illinois....IN A GOOD WAY!

Sandia

[grfxdsnr]

Thansk Coolslayer and Sandia! We have pretty much made our minds up and will be moving there. My hopes is we'll be there before next summer hits!

[robertjones2001]

One more question that I didn't find on that link. How long must one be a resident to apply for a medical mj card? I can't let Jim go without since it truly helps him. Please tell me a month or so. LOL

And when we get there we'll definitely be open to joining too and getting involved. The more the better! :D

The residency requirement is only as long as it takes get an address here and a drivers license or state ID card. Less than a month I think -- maybe a week or two.

[coolslayer]

No limits of one ounce by the state. Not that I have heard. The info I linked to is the only info there is besides heresay.

Yes, there is a shortage. It has only been a few months since they started licensing growers and there are only a handful of producers so far. Things are growing slowly. There are five licenced producers and about 25 in the licencing process. The State licences as many or as few as the State wants to.

The "Streets" here can mean anything. Yes folks buy it illegally. There is American grown medicine and Mexican dope (how's that for a compromise Coolslayer?). Most of the time American grown weed is not the "streets". It is a friend or close aquaintance. Anyhoo, I hope I answered your question. Albuquerque is a good city and New Mexico is a paradise wilderness. I hope you enjoy it!

A valiant effort,but even mexican cannabis contains some THC,which makes it a "medicine".

[coolslayer]

My husband has multiple sclerosis and wants to move to a state with medical marijuana. Currently we're in Illinois and if you know anything about our state you know it will be some time before they pass a MM law around here. :rolleyes:

Can you give us the low down on how this goes in NM? We understand we have to live there, that's a given. He'll need a doctors recommendation too.


Our main question is, how does one go about getting medical marijuana if we keep reading how hard it is to get in NM from a producer?


Has NM passed any new laws to allow more producers? Did they limit the amount one can buy to one ounce like we've read in various websites? Can you grow your own and get from a producer?

NM is a beautiful state and we feel good about choosing the Albuquerque area as our place to live. My husband is also a disabled vet so we'll need to find a civilian doctor for a mm card.

Thanks in advance!

Sandy

Why Albuquerque? There are many nicer places to live in New Mexico.

[grfxdsnr]

Albuquerque or surrounding area is where we want to live. We have family there. Plus the Veteran's hospital is there and Jim is a 100% service connected vet.

[grfxdsnr]

The residency requirement is only as long as it takes get an address here and a drivers license or state ID card. Less than a month I think -- maybe a week or two.

Right. This is the response I got this morning from the program: You must be physically living in New Mexico and have a New Mexico ID.

[bedrockbob]

Right. This is the response I got this morning from the program: You must be physically living in New Mexico and have a New Mexico ID.

I am so glad to hear that! In many cases (fishing licence, etc.etc.) you have to be a resident for one full year. I know that in California that is the way it was when my friend moved out there...one year. Because this is medicine, how could they make people wait???

Great news and very good info!

[coolslayer]

Albuquerque or surrounding area is where we want to live. We have family there. Plus the Veteran's hospital is there and Jim is a 100% service connected vet.


Obviously,I recommend the "surrounding area" over Albuquerque.

[grfxdsnr]

Obviously,I recommend the "surrounding area" over Albuquerque.

How's Rio Rancho? We've been looking at houses there.

[Totah Sam]

How's Rio Rancho? We've been looking at houses there.

I have a friend who moved to Rio Rancho about 4 years ago. She loves it.

[patient4200]

I'd politely suggest you do lots and lots of research on life in Rio Rancho before you move there. No offense to those that live in rio rancho btw.

Start with New Mexico TV station/newspaper web sites and work your way from there.

[grfxdsnr]

I'd politely suggest you do lots and lots of research on life in Rio Rancho before you move there. No offense to those that live in rio rancho btw.

Start with New Mexico TV station/newspaper web sites and work your way from there.

Can you elaborate a little more please?

[Totah Sam]

Can you elaborate a little more please?


I have no idea what he's talking about. My friend has lived in Rio Rancho for the past four years and says it wonderful. Her husband is originally from Rio Rancho and they moved there after their wedding. I have visited her several times and the neighborhood she lives in is wonderful. :wtf:

[bedrockbob]

Rio Rancho is New Mexico's only endless suburb. For folks who like to live in the city and close...REALY CLOSE to their neighbors I suppose it is fine. I would DIE there. You cant tell it from any other suburb in the United States. One of the only soulless places in New Mexico. The homes are all some developer's idea of "southwestern", they are all stuffed together in cul de sacs that all look alike, and it is miles and miles of average white families with 3.4 kids and 2.5 cars. At some point back in the mid 80's aliens landed in Rio Rancho and hid pods in every home. Now people are all the same, they all smile giddily, they all smell the same, look the same and act the same.

It is no better and no worse that any other strip mall infested community in America. It is not New Mexico but you can get here from there in a few minutes.

That is my spin on it, and I dont mean to offend anyone. I am sure life is great in Rio Rancho for the people who are cut out for that sort of living. I would get arrested for peeing in the front yard, grazing a mule on the side of the road, or fixing my old Land Cruiser in the driveway. Not to mention growing reefer in the middle of a sea of humanity.

[Sandia]

How's Rio Rancho? We've been looking at houses there.

Sandy,

Rio Rancho is a nice place to live. I have many friends that live in Rio Rancho, Corrales, and Albuquerque. Rio Rancho has it's ups and downs, as with ANY other place on the face of the earth!

There are areas of Rio Rancho that are very rural and there are places that are "burbville" (kind of like what Bedrock Bob was referring to). On the northern side of the town (from Northern Blvd northbound) there are many areas that have very large acreages when compared to houses in Albuquerque or in the southern part of Rio Rancho.

You mentioned that your husband was a Veteran. Please thank him for his service! The VA Medical Center in Albuquerque has a very good reputation and I have many friends that receive care from there. If you were on the VERY North side of Rio Rancho (near US550 and I-25) it would take approximately 30 minutes to get to the VA center...35-40 min if the traffic was bad. Return route at rush hour would take 35-40 min. The section of I-25 Northbound from Tramway Blvd to Bernalillo is currently under construction to expand both directions to 3 lanes each way. The state has been doing a really good job with the construction...this should cut down the commute time if you were to take I-25.

Because your husband will be getting his medical care from the VA, Albuquerque, Bernalillo, Placitas, and Rio Rancho would all be good choices to relocate to. I do not know much about Los Lunas but I have a few friends that live down there....it is a nice place but I prefer living to the north of Albuquerque. Another area to consider is the "East Mountains". It is beautiful out there and a lot less "stress" than living in the city. The only downfall that I see with living in Tijeras, Sandia Park, Moriarty is that the snow can shut down I-40 getting to and from town. This happens rarely but something to consider.

I wish you guys the best of luck!!!!

Sandia

[boaz]

... I would get arrested for peeing in the front yard, grazing a mule on the side of the road, or fixing my old Land Cruiser in the driveway. Not to mention growing reefer in the middle of a sea of humanity.

:jointsmile: my dad always said he could never live anywhere where he couldn't take a leak in his front yard. :D and he never has, our closest neighbors in Missouri were over a mile away. I've always felt about the same way, myself.

[Hypomaniac]

I wish the best of luck to the both of you, in finding what you need.:thumbsup:

[grfxdsnr]

That is my spin on it, and I dont mean to offend anyone. I am sure life is great in Rio Rancho for the people who are cut out for that sort of living. I would get arrested for peeing in the front yard, grazing a mule on the side of the road, or fixing my old Land Cruiser in the driveway. Not to mention growing reefer in the middle of a sea of humanity.

Not offended at all. I like space too. :D

[PufferLungs]

Consider Colorado. I believe the laws are much more relaxed here. But the cost of living is kinda high IMO.

There's no shortage of medicine here. It's the wild west - seams everybody and their niece are growing MMJ here. Everybody 'cept me..... :(

I don't know a thing about NM - 'cept that it's about 4hrs south of here. :stoned:

[bedrockbob]

:jointsmile: my dad always said he could never live anywhere where he couldn't take a leak in his front yard. :D and he never has, our closest neighbors in Missouri were over a mile away. I've always felt about the same way, myself.

Man I hear you! The closer together that people stuff themselves the creepier I get. The road to my house is bad. I have had four people visit my house in the last five years. I have had more bears visit than people. But that isn't for everyone...

There are a whole lot of very nice places to live here. You have subdivisions and urban ranch and farms and small town environments all within 30 minutes of Albuquerque. From Bernalillo to Belen it is (mostly) all good. A darn nice place to live!

[coolslayer]

"Rio Rancho is a nice place to live. I have many friends that live in Rio Rancho, Corrales, and Albuquerque. Rio Rancho has it's ups and downs, as with ANY other place on the face of the earth!"

Ruidoso has no "downs".

[coolslayer]

Consider Colorado. I believe the laws are much more relaxed here. But the cost of living is kinda high IMO.

There's no shortage of medicine here. It's the wild west - seams everybody and their niece are growing MMJ here. Everybody 'cept me..... :(

I don't know a thing about NM - 'cept that it's about 4hrs south of here. :stoned:

This is a discussion of moving to New Mexico,not colorado.

[Sandia]

"Rio Rancho is a nice place to live. I have many friends that live in Rio Rancho, Corrales, and Albuquerque. Rio Rancho has it's ups and downs, as with ANY other place on the face of the earth!"

Ruidoso has no "downs".

Coolslayer...Ruidoso is BEAUTIFUL....and kind of has the "downs" (racing that is...LOL)!

;):):thumbsup:

[boaz]

... and I dont mean to offend anyone. ...

yeah, me neither, I wasn't commenting about Rio Rancho or anything, I've never even been there. I did live in so cal for years, talk about one giant burb. :eek: i still took a leak in my front yard, even in L.A. :rastasmoke:

[pepurr]

I live in Bernalillo and love it. The people are very friendly. Bernalillo is a quite town. You seldom hear a siren, and crime is almost non-existent. Albuquerque is a short drive away. If you don't want to drive, you can take the Railrunner.

[grfxdsnr]

You guys crack me up! Must be nice to take a leak in your front yard. Us women can't do that so I bow to you all. :lol5:

[PufferLungs]

This is a discussion of moving to New Mexico,not colorado.

Sounds to me like the laws are more strict and there could be a shortage of medicine in NM. My suggestion that they consider Colorado was relevant to the discussion. It is in relatively the same geographical location as NM. The weather and climate is very similar to that of NM. The landscape and scenery are also very similar to what you will find in NM. The laws in Colorado appear to be much more relaxed as well. Trust me when I tell you there's no shortage of medicine at the dispensaries in Colorado.

I think I've made my point, but I don't want to hijack the thread, so I will excuse myself now. To the OP, I do hope you and your husband find a suitable state in which to live. MS is a terrible disease and you have my sympathies.
:jointsmile:

[grfxdsnr]

Sounds to me like the laws are more strict and there could be a shortage of medicine in NM. My suggestion that they consider Colorado was relevant to the discussion. It is in relatively the same geographical location as NM. The weather and climate is very similar to that of NM. The landscape and scenery are also very similar to what you will find in NM. The laws in Colorado appear to be much more relaxed as well. Trust me when I tell you there's no shortage of medicine at the dispensaries in Colorado.

I think I've made my point, but I don't want to hijack the thread, so I will excuse myself now. To the OP, I do hope you and your husband find a suitable state in which to live. MS is a terrible disease and you have my sympathies.
:jointsmile:

I appreciate your input and will take it into consideration. I believe the climate is warmer in NM than in Colorado. My husbands ms acts up pretty bad due to cold and snow and the winters here in Illinois are BRUTAL to say the least. This is one of the reasons we are choosing NM. They may have the cold but the winter duration is much less than Illinois for sure. We don't even see 50-60 degrees until April, maybe May. LOL

You bring up a valid point about his meds. He cannot go without his medicine that's for sure. But from what everyone is saying here, Albuquerque is not an issue for getting meds or going without. Plus, hubby will grow some of his own to make up for the loss if there is one.

[grfxdsnr]

Hey, can anyone tell me what the average cost is for medical mj? I get ideas from other states but I know each one is different.

[pepurr]

I appreciate your input and will take it into consideration. I believe the climate is warmer in NM than in Colorado. My husbands ms acts up pretty bad due to cold and snow and the winters here in Illinois are BRUTAL to say the least. This is one of the reasons we are choosing NM. They may have the cold but the winter duration is much less than Illinois for sure. We don't even see 50-60 degrees until April, maybe May. LOL

You bring up a valid point about his meds. He cannot go without his medicine that's for sure. But from what everyone is saying here, Albuquerque is not an issue for getting meds or going without. Plus, hubby will grow some of his own to make up for the loss if there is one.

I'm not trying to put you off Alb., But it can get pretty darn cold here too. Alb. is a mile above sea level, so you have to consider that.

On the other hand, the summers can get pretty hot too. I'm not talking Phoenix hot, but being a mile up there isn't as much atmosphere blocking the rays of the sun. It don't take long to get a sun burn when you are out in the open. Also it is dry here. You may want to keep plenty of lotion on hand. Many people have problems with dry skin here.

Most of the time in the winter, even if it is cold, if you are in the sun you can keep kind of warm. That is if the wind isn't blowing. Speaking of wind, we get some pretty bad dust storms here too. Some times you wouldn't want to go out side cause it can sting your skin.

Other than that it isn't bad. I guess every place has its draw backs and good points. I would say the good out weighs the bad here in Albuquerque.

There's my take on it with out a suger coat.

peace :cool:

[Sandia]

Pepurr pretty much nailed it! The "windy season" is a royal pain in the butt! NM evenings make up for that though....it is VERY nice to be able to sit out on the patio/deck after the sun sets in the summer time.

I also like the fact that there are essentially no mosquitoes here in ABQ either!

[pepurr]

Pepurr pretty much nailed it! The "windy season" is a royal pain in the butt! NM evenings make up for that though....it is VERY nice to be able to sit out on the patio/deck after the sun sets in the summer time.

I also like the fact that there are essentially no mosquitoes here in ABQ either!

Oh yeah! No mosquitoes! I have never been bitten by one here. I was born and raised in Florida, and have been bitten by them darn things hundreds of times if not thousands.

Down in the south east you have to worry about a lot of nasty diseases transmitted by them. Here you don't have to worry about that. Just don't get bitten by a flea. They do carry the bubonic plague here. Luck would have it that it is easily cured by antibiotics.

[grfxdsnr]

Alright, don't start with the "critter" thing! I am already a little freaked by it all. I can handle just about any bug but those centipedes are brutal looking! Please tell me they aren't that bad in the Albquerque area. :what:

[coolslayer]

Coolslayer...Ruidoso is BEAUTIFUL....and kind of has the "downs" (racing that is...LOL)!

;):):thumbsup:

Yeah,there is that.Good call.

[coolslayer]

Sounds to me like the laws are more strict and there could be a shortage of medicine in NM. My suggestion that they consider Colorado was relevant to the discussion. It is in relatively the same geographical location as NM. The weather and climate is very similar to that of NM. The landscape and scenery are also very similar to what you will find in NM. The laws in Colorado appear to be much more relaxed as well. Trust me when I tell you there's no shortage of medicine at the dispensaries in Colorado.

I think I've made my point, but I don't want to hijack the thread, so I will excuse myself now. To the OP, I do hope you and your husband find a suitable state in which to live. MS is a terrible disease and you have my sympathies.
:jointsmile:

There may not be as much available medicine here as in colorado,but we also aren't having dispensary robberies and municipalities fighting against dispensaries.

[coolslayer]

Hey, can anyone tell me what the average cost is for medical mj? I get ideas from other states but I know each one is different.

It depends on the amount and which Producer that you obtain it from.

[pepurr]

The centipedes arn't that bad. Except the ones over 3 feet long. They get a little hostile then :stoned:

Just kidding. I haven't seen the first centipedes, and I haven't seen any roaches here as well. Look out for the Jackalope though. They like to sneak up on you when you're bent over and use their sharp horns to gore you in the fanny. :D

[coolslayer]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[DrNick]

You gotta luv this state. Just ask our 2 last govners. HA!!! I jest. Where in ILLinois you live? Me I live west of chicago. You? Technically I believe ILLinois has had medical marijuana on the book since i believe 1979. Illinois depart. of health never did anything with it though.. Only took 30 years........

[bedrockbob]

Sounds to me like the laws are more strict and there could be a shortage of medicine in NM. My suggestion that they consider Colorado was relevant to the discussion. It is in relatively the same geographical location as NM. The weather and climate is very similar to that of NM. The landscape and scenery are also very similar to what you will find in NM. The laws in Colorado appear to be much more relaxed as well. Trust me when I tell you there's no shortage of medicine at the dispensaries in Colorado.

I think I've made my point, but I don't want to hijack the thread, so I will excuse myself now. To the OP, I do hope you and your husband find a suitable state in which to live. MS is a terrible disease and you have my sympathies.
:jointsmile:

You said in your first post that you didnt know anything about New Mexico and it is showing. Colorado and New Mexico are in very different geographical locations...thus the differing names. The climates are night and day different because the altitude and lattitude is much different. Colorado shares a climate and topography with Utah and Wyoming. New Mexico shares similarity with Arizona and Nevada.

The culture, the terrain and the whole way of thinking is like night and day. The only thing Colorado and New Mexico share in common are the Sangre De Cristo's and the Castillian influence in the North (your South).

So you can tell us about Colorado if you would like! But please dont tell us about New Mexico.

You are correct about New Mexico's MMJ laws. Our MMJ program was not really a stab at legalization under the guise of medical cannabis. It was more about finding a workable way to allow usage in a society that is generally conservative, hispanic, and religious. Dispensaries just wont work here. This state is more than just the Albuquerque/Santa Fe area. It is mostly farms and ranches and dairies. Tiny communities in the mountains and valleys. Old timers and small families and lots of rural living. THAT is New Mexico.

Folks in the cities think of dispensaries in California as being the answer to medical cannabis. That would mean HUGE problems along the border, and HUGE resistance from the largely rural population. A quiet controlled system is needed or it WILL BE SHUT DOWN.

People here never have given a rats asss about smoking pot...hell lots of people smoke it. Posession of less than 8 ounces is a misdemeanor, and only one ounce is a slap on the wrist. New Mexico has always been lenient on smokers. People dont care as long as they dont see it or smell it.

Many states are looking at our model. It is really good! Once producers get going and more enter the picture it will work good. Everyone will have access (hopefully), more conditions can be added, and it all can be controlled in a way that it does not interrupt the "New Mexican" lifestyle.

[grfxdsnr]

You gotta luv this state. Just ask our 2 last govners. HA!!! I jest. Where in ILLinois you live? Me I live west of chicago. You? Technically I believe ILLinois has had medical marijuana on the book since i believe 1979. Illinois depart. of health never did anything with it though..

I am out by Sandwich, south of Dekalb. Illinois is the slowest damn state in the whole US if you ask me about getting it legalized. It passed the Senate last year. Last time I tuned in to watch the House they were arguing over Madigan calling them names. It's like highschool in there! :mad:

I wrote Pritchard about it and haven't heard back. I reminded him that we voted them in and instead of sitting around arguing, how about working? Now that's a concept eh? :D

All the House has to do is debate and vote. Ackkk, it will die in the house most likely. Quinn already said he'd consider it. Yeah, like I am sure that's all he's worried about. :rolleyes:

Oh and by the way New Mexico and Colorado, I suggested Illinois look at your states for some ideas. So, wear your Sunday best and smile! :rasta:

[DrNick]

Like the Doc! Now that's funny. I don't care who you are.

[Totah Sam]

I live in Bernalillo and love it. The people are very friendly. Bernalillo is a quite town. You seldom hear a siren, and crime is almost non-existent. Albuquerque is a short drive away. If you don't want to drive, you can take the Railrunner.

NO! NOT BERNALILLO!!! According to my friend in Rio Rancho there are brujas in Bernalillo. :p

[pepurr]

NO! NOT BERNALILLO!!! According to my friend in Rio Rancho there are brujas in Bernalillo. :p

Your friend is right. The wicked brujas of the west lives here, and she will get you, my pretty. And your little dog too! :D

[grfxdsnr]

Your friend is right. The wicked brujas of the west lives here, and she will get you, my pretty. And your little dog too! :D

Noooooooooooo! Not the dog!!!!!!

[coolslayer]

You gotta luv this state. Just ask our 2 last govners. HA!!! I jest. Where in ILLinois you live? Me I live west of chicago. You? Technically I believe ILLinois has had medical marijuana on the book since i believe 1979. Illinois depart. of health never did anything with it though.. Only took 30 years........

Kinda like arizona.

[coolslayer]

You said in your first post that you didnt know anything about New Mexico and it is showing. Colorado and New Mexico are in very different geographical locations...thus the differing names. The climates are night and day different because the altitude and lattitude is much different. Colorado shares a climate and topography with Utah and Wyoming. New Mexico shares similarity with Arizona and Nevada.

The culture, the terrain and the whole way of thinking is like night and day. The only thing Colorado and New Mexico share in common are the Sangre De Cristo's and the Castillian influence in the North (your South).

So you can tell us about Colorado if you would like! But please dont tell us about New Mexico.

You are correct about New Mexico's MMJ laws. Our MMJ program was not really a stab at legalization under the guise of medical cannabis. It was more about finding a workable way to allow usage in a society that is generally conservative, hispanic, and religious. Dispensaries just wont work here. This state is more than just the Albuquerque/Santa Fe area. It is mostly farms and ranches and dairies. Tiny communities in the mountains and valleys. Old timers and small families and lots of rural living. THAT is New Mexico.

Folks in the cities think of dispensaries in California as being the answer to medical cannabis. That would mean HUGE problems along the border, and HUGE resistance from the largely rural population. A quiet controlled system is needed or it WILL BE SHUT DOWN.

People here never have given a rats asss about smoking pot...hell lots of people smoke it. Posession of less than 8 ounces is a misdemeanor, and only one ounce is a slap on the wrist. New Mexico has always been lenient on smokers. People dont care as long as they dont see it or smell it.

Many states are looking at our model. It is really good! Once producers get going and more enter the picture it will work good. Everyone will have access (hopefully), more conditions can be added, and it all can be controlled in a way that it does not interrupt the "New Mexican" lifestyle.

That is what I wanted to say,but I'm not that good with words.Good post!

[DrNick]

Noooooooooooo! Not the dog!!!!!!

That's not a dog. It's a chupacabra. :giggity:

[DrNick]

I am out by Sandwich, south of Dekalb. Illinois is the slowest damn state in the whole US if you ask me about getting it legalized. It passed the Senate last year. Last time I tuned in to watch the House they were arguing over Madigan calling them names. It's like highschool in there! :mad:

I wrote Pritchard about it and haven't heard back. I reminded him that we voted them in and instead of sitting around arguing, how about working? Now that's a concept eh? :D

All the House has to do is debate and vote. Ackkk, it will die in the house most likely. Quinn already said he'd consider it. Yeah, like I am sure that's all he's worried about. :rolleyes:

Oh and by the way New Mexico and Colorado, I suggested Illinois look at your states for some ideas. So, wear your Sunday best and smile! :rasta:

First off, every time I have been to New Mexico she has had on her Sunday best.:thumbsup: Very beautiful and friendly.
Second...I don't think the gov't (state or fed) actually knows how to work. Unless you grease their palm, know what I mean?
I do commend you for telling Mr. Pritchard that.:clap: About voting him in and such. Hopefully someday these people sitting in the cushy chair will realize it takes votes to have that cushy chair. I think it is time to clean "house", so to speak. ;) Just my humble opinion.
Btw...my brother lives in Dekalb. Ever been to Otto's?

[grfxdsnr]

Btw...my brother lives in Dekalb. Ever been to Otto's?

No we haven't but I am sure my two boys have been. One just graduated NIU and the youngest next year.

[coolslayer]

Cool!

[Totah Sam]

That's not a dog. It's a chupacabra. :giggity:

We don't have el chupacabra in New Mexico. We have coyotes with mange. ;)

[bedrockbob]

We don't have el chupacabra in New Mexico. We have coyotes with mange. ;)

Actually, El Chupacabra struck in Chaparral, New Mexico just a few months ago. Killed a bunch of chickens and scared the shit out of the populace. This critter lives in El Paso and I have seen him many times.

And La Llorona, too! And that big pterodactyl thing they see over by Hobbs and Artesia. We just CANT leave out aliens in Roswell, the Taos hum, the alien base in the mountain at Dulce, UFO's in Aztec, the excorcism at Abiquiu, giant catfish in Elephant Butte and the 12 foot rattlesnakes in Deming. Las Alamos experiments, the secret facilities at White Sands, the "Green Lights", Foo Fighters, and the treasure of Victorio Peak.

Man the list goes on...those are just the few that come to me through the smoky haze...

[DrNick]

Actually, El Chupacabra struck in Chaparral, New Mexico just a few months ago. Killed a bunch of chickens and scared the shit out of the populace. This critter lives in El Paso and I have seen him many times.

And La Llorona, too! And that big pterodactyl thing they see over by Hobbs and Artesia. We just CANT leave out aliens in Roswell, the Taos hum, the alien base in the mountain at Dulce, UFO's in Aztec, the excorcism at Abiquiu, giant catfish in Elephant Butte and the 12 foot rattlesnakes in Deming. Las Alamos experiments, the secret facilities at White Sands, the "Green Lights", Foo Fighters, and the treasure of Victorio Peak.

Man the list goes on...those are just the few that come to me through the smoky haze...

Holy crap. I didn't realize NM had so much to offer. I gotta check out that pterodactyl thing next time I'm in the neighborhood. Sounds spookily cool. Hopefully soon.:thumbsup:

[personified]

Colorado and New Mexico are in very different geographical locations...thus the differing names.


I always wondered why they were not the same.
That's funny!!! :pimp:

[FLYINGHIGH2]

We don't have el chupacabra in New Mexico. We have coyotes with mange. ;)

That's not a coyote with mange, that's my ex-wife.

[Totah Sam]

Actually, El Chupacabra struck in Chaparral, New Mexico just a few months ago. Killed a bunch of chickens and scared the shit out of the populace. This critter lives in El Paso and I have seen him many times.

And La Llorona, too! And that big pterodactyl thing they see over by Hobbs and Artesia. We just CANT leave out aliens in Roswell, the Taos hum, the alien base in the mountain at Dulce, UFO's in Aztec, the excorcism at Abiquiu, giant catfish in Elephant Butte and the 12 foot rattlesnakes in Deming. Las Alamos experiments, the secret facilities at White Sands, the "Green Lights", Foo Fighters, and the treasure of Victorio Peak.

Man the list goes on...those are just the few that come to me through the smoky haze...

You left out Skinwalkers and the San Juan County Bigfoot. The Thunderbird has been seen outside of Gallup and umm.. there's the giant snake that's being seen on the Navajo Reservation. The Brujas of Bernalillo. Not to be outdone, we have the living Kachinas that run around the pueblo tribes.

[bedrockbob]

You left out Skinwalkers and the San Juan County Bigfoot. The Thunderbird has been seen outside of Gallup and umm.. there's the giant snake that's being seen on the Navajo Reservation. The Brujas of Bernalillo. Not to be outdone, we have the living Kachinas that run around the pueblo tribes.

Sam,

I wasn't going to mention those knowing where you come from...especially Skinwalkers. I know a hell of a lot of people who freak out if you whistle at night!

I live near Pecos and the giant snake was a big legend. They say the Pecos peoples always had a fire going to keep it away, and their fire still burns in San Ysidro where the last puebloans went. The snake was supposed to have slithered away years ago. Maybe it went to the Dine country.

It is good to hear someone that knows the stories of the region. I think it is important part of "being a part of" an area. Especially here where there is so much magic, spirituality, history, and just plain strangeness.

[bedrockbob]

I always wondered why they were not the same.
That's funny!!! :pimp:

Cool!

[personified]

Cool!

I am changing it as of now it is.....
Chilly Willy like the Penguin!! :D

[Totah Sam]

Sam,

I wasn't going to mention those knowing where you come from...especially Skinwalkers. I know a hell of a lot of people who freak out if you whistle at night!

I live near Pecos and the giant snake was a big legend. They say the Pecos peoples always had a fire going to keep it away, and their fire still burns in San Ysidro where the last puebloans went. The snake was supposed to have slithered away years ago. Maybe it went to the Dine country.

It is good to hear someone that knows the stories of the region. I think it is important part of "being a part of" an area. Especially here where there is so much magic, spirituality, history, and just plain strangeness.

I grew up on and around the Navajo Nation and I have tons of Navajo relatives. I could tell you some personal experiences with skinwalkers but I wouldn't want to scare ya. :P I don't whistle at night. I know better.

[Ladylunch1]

Hey Sandy,

We're originally from Illinois also and moved here for the hubby's health (altitude and dryness helps his condition).

I don't know which part of Illinois you're from, or what you do for a living, but we underwent a big culture shock when we moved. My salary is half what I was making there doing the same job, and hubby took a $10/hr pay cut while he was able to work (he's totally disabled now).

Houses cost what they do in Chicago and suburbs, namely about $150K for a small, decent one. Lots cost $50K and up if you want to build.

It's also hard to grow things here. The soil has little organic material and is salty. It is much easier to grow 'medicine' back home, where soil is fertile and the air has some moisture in it...but it can be done here if you garden, or grow inside.

Lots here have retaining walls around them for the most part, some of these walls are tall already or can be built taller. We were approved to grow based on this and the other plants we are growing in our yard, namely tall, dense stuff like sunflowers, Jerusalem artichokes and corn. No one can see what's in the middle. LOL. Also a big dog is an asset.

If you have a good job already in Illinois, consider moving someplace rural, and private, and staying there. You can work in Chicago, and 40 miles away, have a home in the middle of nowhere and still be close enough to commute. Definitely don't move until you have a job or other income source lined up here. You can't buy 'medicine' if you don't have any money. Schools are bad here also (google it).

The doctors here are VERY reluctant to sign applications, even though they are only verifying that the patient can benefit from the program, not supplying anything. Houses are expensive, and jobs don't pay well. The air is dry and your skin will itch. LOL... We have yet to find good pizza or poorboys, and they put green chili on EVERYTHING, which can be a either a good or a bad thing. One of the good things, you won't have to mow, but if you DO have a lawn, you'll have to water it twice a day, and resod every 3 yrs or so.

Let me know if you'd like to chat further. I will be moving back to Illinois when the hubby passes. Weather-wise, its MUCH nicer here than Illinois. I haven't seen the temp drop to zero yet in the winter, the ground doesn't freeze, and there are only a few days in the summer above 100...not to mention that there is NO humidity in the summer, and few tornados, but I desparately miss the green landscape, the higher pay and cheaper housing.

[grfxdsnr]

Hey Ladylunch thanks for the info! A couple of things. Jim is medically retired through the military and receives a pension so we're good on that end. I stay home to be his caregiver. Kids are grown, etc. Just me, Jim, the cat and dog. We currently own so hopefully we'll make enough off this house to put down on another. I have a plan to be mortgage free in five years. It can be done!

As far as growing, I would grow hydro most likely.

And lastly, no way am I ever going to move back to Illinois once I am gone. Born and raised here but it's lost it's loving feeling. We must separate. lol

Oh and we're also considering Colorado too. We haven't made our minds up just yet. ;)

[coolslayer]

Hey Sandy,

We're originally from Illinois also and moved here for the hubby's health (altitude and dryness helps his condition).

I don't know which part of Illinois you're from, or what you do for a living, but we underwent a big culture shock when we moved. My salary is half what I was making there doing the same job, and hubby took a $10/hr pay cut while he was able to work (he's totally disabled now).

Houses cost what they do in Chicago and suburbs, namely about $150K for a small, decent one. Lots cost $50K and up if you want to build.

It's also hard to grow things here. The soil has little organic material and is salty. It is much easier to grow 'medicine' back home, where soil is fertile and the air has some moisture in it...but it can be done here if you garden, or grow inside.

Lots here have retaining walls around them for the most part, some of these walls are tall already or can be built taller. We were approved to grow based on this and the other plants we are growing in our yard, namely tall, dense stuff like sunflowers, Jerusalem artichokes and corn. No one can see what's in the middle. LOL. Also a big dog is an asset.

If you have a good job already in Illinois, consider moving someplace rural, and private, and staying there. You can work in Chicago, and 40 miles away, have a home in the middle of nowhere and still be close enough to commute. Definitely don't move until you have a job or other income source lined up here. You can't buy 'medicine' if you don't have any money. Schools are bad here also (google it).

The doctors here are VERY reluctant to sign applications, even though they are only verifying that the patient can benefit from the program, not supplying anything. Houses are expensive, and jobs don't pay well. The air is dry and your skin will itch. LOL... We have yet to find good pizza or poorboys, and they put green chili on EVERYTHING, which can be a either a good or a bad thing. One of the good things, you won't have to mow, but if you DO have a lawn, you'll have to water it twice a day, and resod every 3 yrs or so.

Let me know if you'd like to chat further. I will be moving back to Illinois when the hubby passes. Weather-wise, its MUCH nicer here than Illinois. I haven't seen the temp drop to zero yet in the winter, the ground doesn't freeze, and there are only a few days in the summer above 100...not to mention that there is NO humidity in the summer, and few tornados, but I desparately miss the green landscape, the higher pay and cheaper housing.

It is all a matter of perspective.
I have the opposite one.
I have lived in Chicago and could not stand it.
Houses jammed together 4 feet apart.
Police who think they are gods.
It's not worth earning more money or getting good pizza.

[coolslayer]

Sounds to me like Ladylunch1 is living in the "wrong" part of the state.