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nmmeds
02-09-2010, 01:48 AM
Anyone know what the status of the new qualified conditions are? I know that they approved cluster headaches and Bipolar Disorder in the Dec. 11 meeting but, that was the end of it. Anyone know if they are going to be added to the list of qualified conditions?

coolslayer
02-09-2010, 02:01 AM
Anyone know what the status of the new qualified conditions are? I know that they approved cluster headaches and Bipolar Disorder in the Dec. 11 meeting but, that was the end of it. Anyone know if they are going to be added to the list of qualified conditions?

Still waiting on word......Secretary Vigil has not given the final okay to the new conditions as far as I know.

nmmeds
02-09-2010, 03:10 AM
cool, just wanted to see if anyone heard anything yet.. thanks man!!

coolslayer
02-09-2010, 10:13 PM
You're welcome.

firestartersydd
02-09-2010, 11:23 PM
That would be killer. Im severely bipolar and its been my anti-depressant of choice for years.

chance942
02-10-2010, 03:46 PM
That would be killer. Im severely bipolar and its been my anti-depressant of choice for years.

I hope it is approved for you. I KNOW it safely would provide you with continued,better,legal relief. A person on the downside in that hell hole doesn't at all need or deserve to have to find medicine on the street. Best wishes,sincerely.

Totah Sam
02-10-2010, 07:09 PM
That would be killer. Im severely bipolar and its been my anti-depressant of choice for years.

My nephew is bipolar and he was on medication that cost a little over 400 dollars per month. He couldn't function on that crap. He couldn't hold down a job or have any kind of meaningful relationship. He ended up in a psych ward after a suicide attempt and the psychiatrist told him to try MM. He did.

He now has a steady job, married and has a little boy. He is extremely happy and living a full life. :)

coolslayer
02-11-2010, 01:35 AM
That is awesome.

bedrockbob
02-11-2010, 01:56 AM
I am in 100% agreement. As a natural anti depressant it has no equal. My episodes of depression are completely under control (so far) with cannabis and a mild anti depressant. Without the anti depressant they are few and far between, but without cannabis they are deep and prolonged. Then there is appetite and sleep, both of which are foundational to anyones health, but to a person with depression they are the gift of life. No food and no sleep will turn depression into a killer...either you or someone else.

Apetite, good sleep, and a few moments of happiness and inspiration in the afternoon are what the herb gives to you. It is the gift of the ally. It is exactly what people that are sick, in pain, or have a troubled mind need.

coolslayer
02-11-2010, 02:15 AM
Happy medicating.

nmmeds
02-13-2010, 01:23 AM
just saw on the news that they added arthritis to the list of approved conditions. But its no go for bi-polor and migraines... :mad:

bedrockbob
02-13-2010, 01:57 AM
just saw on the news that they added arthritis to the list of approved conditions. But its no go for bi-polor and migraines... :mad:


No Bi-Polar? That is very sad. Many could have benefited.

I was told by my doctor (psychiatrist that referred me) that New Mexico was the only state that had PTSD, and that cannabis is not accepted as a psychological remedy in most states. I find that a litte odd because that is where it has it most effect! DUH!

I had no idea arthritis was being considered but I am very glad that it is a qualifying condition. MANY people have constant pain from it and that is exactly the type of pain that MC is good on.

There will be two meetings each year of the advisory board. The public needs to keep them busy with requests. If peopel went to the public meeting and pettitioned the board it would do much good.

coolslayer
02-13-2010, 10:39 AM
just saw on the news that they added arthritis to the list of approved conditions. But its no go for bi-polor and migraines... :mad:

Can't seem to find that news story.

nmmeds
02-13-2010, 02:59 PM
it was on channel 4 news lastnight..They said Dr. Vigil signed off on the use of marijuana for arthritis but, did not approve the other two conditions. I looked on the DOH web and it didn't have any info. yet.

FLYINGHIGH2
02-13-2010, 03:35 PM
take a look on sfreeper.com. Read an article there about the decision.

nmgreenlight
02-14-2010, 12:59 AM
Colorado does not have Migraines listed on their accepting conditions either, but patients are qualifying with them under "Chronic Pain", might be worth a try?

coolslayer
02-17-2010, 03:26 AM
Cool.

Sandia
02-21-2010, 08:45 AM
it was on channel 4 news lastnight..They said Dr. Vigil signed off on the use of marijuana for arthritis but, did not approve the other two conditions. I looked on the DOH web and it didn't have any info. yet.

Here is a link to the KOB video on the new conditions.....

KOB.com - New disease approved for medical marijuana treatment (http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S1417054.shtml)

I have not seen anything else on it though.

The SFreeper site only came up with this.....

SFReeper.com— Medical Cannabis Advisory Board’s Recommendations Not “Scientific” Enough for Health Secretary (http://www.sfreeper.com/2010/02/12/medical-cannabis-advisory-boards-recommendations-not-scientific-enough-for-health-secretary/)

Perhaps someone else has some more info on the subject.

Sandia
02-21-2010, 08:12 PM
Here is a quote from the latest release on the NM website:


??I included this category as an eligible condition because it has been reported in medical literature that medical cannabis may help inflammatory conditions,? Dr. Vigil said. ??However, I am limiting how this category can be approved since I??m concerned that the category could be misused due to the overly broad definition of inflammatory arthritis.?
To qualify for this condition, a patient must be diagnosed with Inflammatory Autoimmune-mediated Arthritis, the patient??s certification must come from a rheumatologist who is board-certified in rheumatology by the American Board of Internal Medicine, and the certification must attest that other standard treatments for arthritis have failed to bring the patient adequate relief.

Link to the full article is below.....

http://www.health.state.nm.us/CommunicationsOffice/2010Releases/One%20New%20Condition%20Added%20to%20Medical%20Can nabis%20Program.pdf

Totah Sam
02-21-2010, 11:49 PM
I still can't believe that LEO's are still saying it's a gateway drug even though studies have shown that to be false.

bedrockbob
02-22-2010, 01:04 AM
The problem with Seccy Vigil's reasoning is that since cannabis is illegal, and the federal govt has been the only one able to do any research, that reserch is pretty hard to come by.

I am fairly sure there are no studies on the effectiveness of marijuana on menstrual cramps, but women use it for that. I am sure there are no studies on ones ability ot withstand heat, sun, and hard labor while using cannabis either... But 9 out of 10 working men use it for that. We shouldnt have to wait for a study...If 100 people came in and said it helped that particular condition then THAT IS A STUDY IN ITSELF!

If cannabis helps one specific kind of arthritis, it helps them all. It is discomfort that it keeps at bay. Whether it is arthritis, back pain, nausea and illness from chemotherapy, or menstrual cramps it works the same.

We need a study on general day to day pain, fatigue, lonliness, fear, hunger, and sorrow. There would be no problem proving the effectiveness of marijuana for any of these conditions if the studies were there.

coolslayer
02-22-2010, 09:43 AM
I still can't believe that LEO's are still saying it's a gateway drug even though studies have shown that to be false.


Not all of them.....I doubt that LEAP is.

bedrockbob
02-22-2010, 10:16 PM
Not all of them.....I doubt that LEAP is.

While I dont trust LEAP's motives, they are indeed a whole bunch of officers, lawyers, judges and others that support ending prohibition, and more specifically across the board legalization and taxation.

They are certainly not MC users and make scary bedfellows. The only thing LEAPsters and I have in common are this single shared belief. I hope no one here is fooled into thinking this is an organozation of "cool cops".

The gateway argument only works when they throw it out in propoganda and falls on simple ears. It sounds feasable, and everone knows people who started with pot and is dead from banging junk. If a person puts the info in perspective he sees that it is a type of personality that leads to addiction. Cause and effect simply cannot be proven when arguing for the "gateway theory". By this reasoning you could assume that drinking milk led to alcoholism because 100% of alcoholics drank milk before they went to beer.

People are gullible. When they hear something that makes sense to them and it rings a chord with them they believe it. They beleive it with no questioning because they heard certain words that they liked. It was a complex subject that they knew nothing about, they were a little nervous even thinking about the subject, and they werent really motivated to learn anything about it.

Someone told them that their children were at risk(..."WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?????" a woman cried from the back of the crowd) Since thay could not find any other reason to continue prohibition the invented the "Gateway Drug" and it has been the centerpiece of the prohibitionist argument since.

Alcohol is the gateway drug. it breeds addiction, addiction breeds need, and need breeds action. In 93% of all abuse, alcohol is the first addiction. In 86% of all cases alcohol is the ONLY addiction. Stoners simply do not grow up to be addicts.

Mental problems cause addiction. For prohibitionists to blame addictions on the drugs is a cop out. We need to face reality with our addictions as well as our drug policy if we are to help people and understand the chemistry of need in an addicted person. We also need to stop blaming people who smoke marijuana for the addictive behavior of a population that is intoxicated by greed and excess from birth.

Totah Sam
02-23-2010, 12:17 AM
There really is no such thing as a gateway drug. People who abuse drugs and then move on to stronger stuff are self-medicating. It's the addictive behavior of the abuser that's the problem, not the drug. But, it's so much easier to use a propaganist term like "gateway drug" to scare the public.


Someone told them that their children were at risk(..."WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?????" a woman cried from the back of the crowd)

They use the same fear mongering about gay marriage. When they have no valid argument then it's all about the children.

coolslayer
02-23-2010, 09:54 AM
It's like blaming the gun for someone getting shot.

bedrockbob
02-24-2010, 12:28 AM
It's like blaming the gun for someone getting shot.

A very good analogy!

personified
02-24-2010, 02:20 AM
I think being a gay child is a gateway to adult homosexuality.

OK NOT PC however, I thought it fit given the previous "stupid quotes".

Funny too in my twisted since of humor.

Q: How can I protect myself from evil?
A: Change your password every month and don't make it a name, a common
word, or a date like your birthday.

coolslayer
02-24-2010, 02:32 AM
Are you high?

personified
02-24-2010, 07:47 PM
As we know a common myth regarded with marijuana is that it is considered to be a gateway drug. This theory states that the use of marijuana will lead to the usage of harder drugs like cocaine and heroin.

This statement isn't true because according to Joshua Levine "when the Dutch partially legalized marijuana in the 70's, heroin and cocaine use substantially declined". This fact proves that marijuana is not a gateway drug.

coolslayer
02-25-2010, 12:48 AM
Okay