Two Horses

[chance942]

From a distance each horse looks like any other horse. But you stop your or are walking by you will notice something quite amazing...Looking into the eyes of one horse will disclose that he is blind. His owner has chosen not to have him put down but has made a good home for him. This alone is amazing.If you stand and listen , you will hear the sound of a bell. Looking around for the source of the sound, you will see that it comes from the smaller horse in the field. Attached to the horse's halter is a small bell. It lets the blind friend know where the other horse is,so he can follow.As you stand and watch these two friends, you'll see that the horse with the bell is always checking on the blind horse and that the blind horse will listen for the bell and then slowly walk to where the other horse is,trusting that he will not be led astray. When the horse with the bell returns to the shelter of the barn each evening, it stops occasionally and looks back,making sure that his friend isn't too far behind to hear the bell.Like the owner of these two horses, God does not throw us away just because we are not perfect or because we have problems or challenges. He watches over us and even brings others into our lives to help us when we are in need. Sometimes we are the blind horse being guided by the little ringing bell of those who God places in our lives. Other times we are the guide horse helping others to find their way....Good friends are like that.You may not always see them but you know they are always there. Please listen for my bell and I'll listen for yours. NOBODY is alone,whatever your beliefs may be.

[JohnMonad]

What strain are you smoking?

[chance942]

I can't legally yet John. I try to find things other than pills to keep me going. Horses have always been my last thread. I thought this forum was to help people and maybe it will bring a smile to SOMEBODY else as it did me. To tell you the truth I signed off before it said it posted.

[frostedwonder]

That is some heavy deep stuff you posted....I am not religious and maybe I like horses more then I thought I did, but it was kinda neat.

[coolslayer]

From a distance each horse looks like any other horse. But you stop your or are walking by you will notice something quite amazing...Looking into the eyes of one horse will disclose that he is blind. His owner has chosen not to have him put down but has made a good home for him. This alone is amazing.If you stand and listen , you will hear the sound of a bell. Looking around for the source of the sound, you will see that it comes from the smaller horse in the field. Attached to the horse's halter is a small bell. It lets the blind friend know where the other horse is,so he can follow.As you stand and watch these two friends, you'll see that the horse with the bell is always checking on the blind horse and that the blind horse will listen for the bell and then slowly walk to where the other horse is,trusting that he will not be led astray. When the horse with the bell returns to the shelter of the barn each evening, it stops occasionally and looks back,making sure that his friend isn't too far behind to hear the bell.Like the owner of these two horses, God does not throw us away just because we are not perfect or because we have problems or challenges. He watches over us and even brings others into our lives to help us when we are in need. Sometimes we are the blind horse being guided by the little ringing bell of those who God places in our lives. Other times we are the guide horse helping others to find their way....Good friends are like that.You may not always see them but you know they are always there. Please listen for my bell and I'll listen for yours. NOBODY is alone,whatever your beliefs may be.

Very nice post.......until you brought religion into it.

[chance942]

Appreciate it Frosty. I'll tell you Bud that a good horse is well to me better than a good dog. Same ole things ya know like they don't judge,they really can sense how you feel. I have screamed to God for help and I feel a level of peace at times that I never have. I'm not trying to push God onto anyone,I know how annoying that can be. Frosty I apologize for the French flag comment,it really isn't ME to be mean to anyone. That is why I am here. I am in a downward spiral like none I've ever had before. Slayer(for the band or what?) I have respect for other beliefs,well all but radical muslims. Slayer NOBODY is EVER ALONE no matter what your RELIGIOUS BELIEFS may be.

[coolslayer]

This is a page for medical cannabis.......please leave religion on a religion site.

[personified]

So I think I understand the horse has glaucoma and needs MM

[chance942]

Slayer, no problem. Person,the horse is BLIND. No wonder you can't grasp the checkpoint concept. Use GOOGLE EARTH and figure it out.

[personified]

Please don't attack it is rude. I was joking obviously you can't grasp that.
Because I have not driven a route in about 5-6 years does not mean I can grasp a concept.

Are you that insecure that you find it necessary to attack people? Humor is one thing spiteful childish comments are another. I have attacked no one nor do I intend to. However I will point out that glaucoma can cause blindness.

Remember superiority is how marijuana became illegal. Basically it boils down to confused supremacy.

Think back MJ is illegal because the white man was superior to the black and he did not like the fact that in actuality the black men were screwing the white women.

However this is another saying...If you can't take a joke......

No matter how you slice confusion it is confusion.

You will notice I have made no comments without providing documentation nor with out links to support my comments.

Unless I was asking questions that can only be answered as a result of opinions. However to think I am basing ever thing on this website forum would be ludicrous. There is a saying opinions are like Corn Hulie O's everyone has one.

I would hope we are all adults here and can act like such.

[chance942]

Please don't attack it is rude. I was joking obviously you can't grasp that.
Because I have not driven a route in about 5-6 years does not mean I can grasp a concept.

Are you that insecure that you find it necessary to attack people? Humor is one thing spiteful childish comments are another. I have attacked no one nor do I intend to. However I will point out that glaucoma can cause blindness.

Remember superiority is how marijuana became illegal. Basically it boils down to confused supremacy.

Think back MJ is illegal because the white man was superior to the black and he did not like the fact that in actuality the black men were screwing the white women.

However this is another saying...If you can't take a joke......

No matter how you slice confusion it is confusion.

You will notice I have made no comments without providing documentation nor with out links to support my comments.

Unless I was asking questions that can only be answered as a result of opinions. However to think I am basing ever thing on this website forum would be ludicrous. There is a saying opinions are like Corn Hulie O's everyone has one.

I would hope we are all adults here and can act like such. OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES. IT'S CORNHOLIO YOU DIMWIT,SMOKE ANOTHER FUCKIN BOWL. DON'T PREACH TO ME ABOUT WHY POT IS ILLEGAL,WHAT YOU STATE IS SUCH A FUCKING CLICHE. GET ON GOOGLE FOR AN HOUR AND GET BACK WHEN YOU HAVE A FUCKING CLUE. YEAH AND SMOKING CAUSES CANCER,EGGS ARE GOOD EGGS ARE BAD,COFFEE IS GOOD COFFEE IS BAD. NOBODY KNOWS JACK SHIT FOR SURE. I'M NOT INSECURE JUST LOOSING MY FUCKIN MIND. "I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CRAZY BUT IT'S KEPT ME FROM GOING INSANE". FUCK WAYLON, I'M NOT TOO FAR BEHIND OLE BUDDY.

[boaz]

I liked the story, personally. I've raised horses and I could see that happening in real life. just try to ignore all the religous hater on this site, thats what I do. :)

[chance942]

I liked the story, personally. I've raised horses and I could see that happening in real life. just try to ignore all the religous hater on this site, thats what I do. :)

Thanks and did you take that picture? I've always wanted to see some Grizzlies up close. Yeah usually those that hate on the Lord are totally lost. Gotta blame someone. God put the Sweet Leaf here for us to use as medicine. All of the haters are just ignorant people who have no clue how amazing this world we were given is. And yeah for you haters,most likely deep down full of just that, there is SCIENCE that coincides with GOD. When you figure that out you will truly be at peace. In reading my posts I seem full of hate but I'm not. Anger is a totally different thing. With God and with a legal right to use the medicine he gave me I truly believe I'll live peacefully until I die at an early age from kidney or liver failure. Thanks for the advice,I really do try but I really am sick.

[personified]

Oh yeah? Did you know that with Google most of the images are at a minimum 2 years old and at this time the only areas that are 3d video images are in populated area. While a map is available do me a favor prove me wrong show me a link with a BP station on I-10. Then prove me wrong or your an idiot.

You have a lot of issues to be so bitter I feel sorry for you.
I can see you have studied and live by the bible in the way you act.

Your kinda like your horse blind to the beauty around you.

However since you found it necessary to attack and then yell at me I have one more cliche.

FUCK YOU & THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!!! LMAO!!!

[Organnabis]

This post and the subsequent comments by its author remind me much of the scene in Spinal Tap where Nigel plays this beautiful piano piece for Rob Reinerâ??s character. â??Thatâ??s pretty,â?� he asks, â??whatâ??s it called?â?� Nigel replies, â??I call this one 'lick my love pump'.â?�

I think the irony is pretty obvious here. You canâ??t call something beautiful then shit on it. Just like you canâ??t claim inner peace and finding God then tell people they are douche bags and to fuck off. Inner peace is not something you claim. Rather it is reflection of how you interact with the world and the people around you. Words have power, use them wisely.

[personified]

Lick my love pump. OMFG!!

I play sax I am going to have to use that line it is too funny
:D

[coolslayer]

Please don't attack it is rude. I was joking obviously you can't grasp that.
Because I have not driven a route in about 5-6 years does not mean I can grasp a concept.

Are you that insecure that you find it necessary to attack people? Humor is one thing spiteful childish comments are another. I have attacked no one nor do I intend to. However I will point out that glaucoma can cause blindness.

Remember superiority is how marijuana became illegal. Basically it boils down to confused supremacy.

Think back MJ is illegal because the white man was superior to the black and he did not like the fact that in actuality the black men were screwing the white women.

However this is another saying...If you can't take a joke......

No matter how you slice confusion it is confusion.

You will notice I have made no comments without providing documentation nor with out links to support my comments.

Unless I was asking questions that can only be answered as a result of opinions. However to think I am basing ever thing on this website forum would be ludicrous. There is a saying opinions are like Corn Hulie O's everyone has one.

I would hope we are all adults here and can act like such.

Not sure that horses can even GET glaucoma.

[chance942]

I'm the first to admit that I am sick. I really,unlike many here,need this plant in my life.

Yes the images on google are old but the checkpoints on the roads have been there for ever. Just zero in on Las Cruces or 88001 and follow the roads out. The eastbound one on I-10 is the furthest away but it's in texas anyway. The ones you are concerned w/ are on 25,10,70 and the Onate Trail.For the Onate one,find the one on 25 then roll west and you will see a little 2 lane road,there is one on that road too. It is tricky to find but look hard and you'll see it,right(NB)side of the road.

[coolslayer]

I liked the story, personally. I've raised horses and I could see that happening in real life. just try to ignore all the religous hater on this site, thats what I do. :)


I liked the story also,it would have been just fine without bringing religion into it.......

[coolslayer]

Thanks and did you take that picture? I've always wanted to see some Grizzlies up close. Yeah usually those that hate on the Lord are totally lost. Gotta blame someone. God put the Sweet Leaf here for us to use as medicine. All of the haters are just ignorant people who have no clue how amazing this world we were given is. And yeah for you haters,most likely deep down full of just that, there is SCIENCE that coincides with GOD. When you figure that out you will truly be at peace. In reading my posts I seem full of hate but I'm not. Anger is a totally different thing. With God and with a legal right to use the medicine he gave me I truly believe I'll live peacefully until I die at an early age from kidney or liver failure. Thanks for the advice,I really do try but I really am sick.


I don't hate anyone or anything.
Since I don't believe in santa claus or the tooth fairy either,do I hate those mythical beings also?

[boaz]

I liked the story also,it would have been just fine without bringing religion into it.......

:) that's cool. I didn't mean to imply anyone on this thread was "hating" or anything. I was really thinking about some other dude who totally attacked one of my threads one time because it quoted a story for the Christian Science Monitor, so no offense anyone. :stoned:

chance, no I didn't take the pix I borrowed from the internet somewhere. :rastasmoke: so sorry whoever took it. great pic, tho! :cool:

"Just like you canâ??t claim inner peace and finding God then tell people they are douche bags and to fuck off." :D true. lmao.

off topic, but how is the med laws working out there in NM?? anyone know what the cultivation laws are for med users? just courious, you know being in a neighboring state and all. :jointsmile:

[coolslayer]

The laws are okay,except for the 95 plant limit on Producers and the limits on Personal Production-----they are too low.The DOH needs to modify some things.

[bedrockbob]

The state web page has the lowdown, but you can have four mature plants and twelve "seedlings". The definition of "seedlings" and "mature plants" are a little ambiguous as they refer to a law, and the dude that wrote the law didnt know shit about plants. Anyhoo, you get the idea. Four at a time budding, twelve babies.

Fairly easy to get a licence to grow as long as you own your property and dont live in the ghetto.

Four 12 foot sativas could supply a Pink Floyd concert. Four runty indicas with root rot wont roll a good fattie. It seems there will be some sort of square footage rule before it is all over, but for now, four mature plants are it.

[boaz]

thanks. at least you guys are on your way. we are still in the dark ages over here. :(

[coolslayer]

Where is that,Boaz?

[Totah Sam]

Where is that,Boaz?

Judging from the flag, I'd say Oklahoma. :p

[boaz]

oh, I'm in Oklahoma right now. cultivation is 2 years to life here. :eek:

[bedrockbob]

The laws are okay,except for the 95 plant limit on Producers and the limits on Personal Production-----they are too low.The DOH needs to modify some things.


Yes, the number of plants do not tell the tale betwee a personal grower and a grower ffor profit. Square footage is the determining factor. patients should be allowed to do a small sea of green up to a certain number of square feet. Heck, a closet grower can easily supply himself ...but not with only four mature plants. A street dealer could reap a neat profit from four biggies grown outside in the Mesilla Valley. So the rules really dont make sense for the patient or the public.

Personally I am happy with four plants. Plenty for me and I appreciate the opportunity to grow it.

The producers should be allowed to grow as much as the fedeeral limit will allow. Indeed it needs to be more but for now the 95 plant limit is prudent. I like it because it fractionalizes the business up over many small growers rather than allowing the more resourceful gowers an advantage. Just about any person that wanted to apply for a producers licence could do it...now whether they would be a success or not that remains to be seen.

Incidentally, I have met another patient that is soon to be licenced to grow and we are kicking around the idea of a cooperative. If four people were allowed to grow together in one plot, a sea of green could be established that will produce constant and predictable harvests. The operation can be adjusted to fit about any rule that DOH currently has, and even expanded into a non profit 95 plant operation if backed by an appropriate amount of patients (and DOH approval). It would be a way for an organization of patients to be self sufficient and not duplicate resources.

[bedrockbob]

oh, I'm in Oklahoma right now. cultivation is 2 years to life here. :eek:

Oh man! I heard it was bad there but I never realized....DO they actually sentence people to that or do the judges show a little compassion?

I really have no idea what the penalties are here but they are probably pretty tough too. Simple posession is nothing, and under 8oz is just a misdemeanor, so posession is not bad.

They have some yearly busts around Taos and Madrid, and you hear of the occasional National Forest plot being found, but growing is pretty popular here and people rarely get caught unless they get greedy. Nowdays, as I get older and my crowd is less "social", it is rare to even see bud that was not grown by a friend. I beleive that the only "bought bud" I have had in 20 years was when I was in Vancouver.

[chance942]

oh, I'm in Oklahoma right now. cultivation is 2 years to life here. :eek:

What's ole Muskogee really like these days? What kind of stock did you raise? I'm guessing quarters for Remington but there are some damn fine cattle working stock there too. Gotta look kinda hard at the map to realize that we are really neighbors. You'd be amazed how many NMer's don't realize that we have 2 "boot heels".

[coolslayer]

oh, I'm in Oklahoma right now. cultivation is 2 years to life here. :eek:


Time to move.

[coolslayer]

Just so the folks on Page 1 of this thread don't think I am unique in my thinking.........


"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology." Thomas Jefferson

[bedrockbob]

Just so the folks on Page 1 of this thread don't think I am unique in my thinking.........


"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology." Thomas Jefferson

Hey there Cool,

With all due respect...please dont take me wrong I am not trying to be contrary...

We all realize that you are not a religious man. I respect you for that. That is your choice. BUT, likening the Christian "God" to Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, and a "mythical being" is inflammatory. It is more than just an ideology, it is a mission to insult those that do beleive.

When you have a group of patients, some with terminal conditions, you are going to have a certain number that are relying heavily on their faith. Whether that be Buddhist, Christian, Rastafarian or whatever. They all have the right to build their strenght from whatever well they desire to draw from. I consider the well of spirituality to be a deep and cold one whose waters fortify the soul.

So please, for the sake of those who do believe in the Easter Bunny, quit bashing religion.

Thanks my friend! I fully respect you for your beliefs and do not want to offend.

[coolslayer]

"We all realize that you are not a religious man. I respect you for that. That is your choice. BUT, likening the Christian "God" to Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, and a "mythical being" is inflammatory."


It is not "inflammatory" to freethinkers,only those that have been conditioned to believe in invisible aliens watching them.Sorry if the truth upsets you.

[bedrockbob]

Not everyone are "free thinkers", but everyone is free to think. I am not les than you because I may beleive differently.

Again, please dont keep hammering on the subject. No one likes for their ideologies to be ridiculed. No one is trying to convert you. You are constantly making derrogatory comments about spirituality in general and that is unfair in a group of people who are by nature, spiritual.

That is all that I will say about it, and if you insist on proclaiming your disgust for religion then I suppose that it is something that you feel you need to do.

Rock on Mr. Cool!

[chance942]

Just so the folks on Page 1 of this thread don't think I am unique in my thinking.........


"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology." Thomas Jefferson

Yeah and Ben Franklin and all Free Masons are satanists. Look don't bash my beliefs. Like Bob said if you must there is a reason for that and you yourself need to work on that or just keep your derogatory thoughts about GOD to yourself. You seem to be the minority here so perhaps you should. I used to share your sentiments but I asked him to enter my life and he has. I hope you are at peace no matter your beliefs. Oh yeah and in case you haven't noticed by now I don't give a rat's ass about offending anyone.:)

[personified]

Every CHANCE Encounter

A mental disorder that makes it difficult to tell
the difference between real and unreal experiences, to think
logically, to have normal emotional responses, and to behave.

I am going to take a CHANCE and say that applies :mad:

[ForgetClassC]

Very nice post.......until you brought religion into it.

Yeah the God part made it seem cheesy, like something you hear on the Christian Channel or something with the old nuns.

-C

[coolslayer]

"Religion is the opiate of the masses"



..........and a crutch for those with little self control.

[brandonjoe]

im a new mmj card holder does any one know wich strains are best for ptsd

[bedrockbob]

Many people that are sick and in the last days of their lives turn to religion and spitiuality. Especially those who rely on the plant allies. Spiritualty is not a critch, but an integral part of the human psyche.

Anyone who has had the DMY experience knows this, and most who have had exxperiences with the are in agreement. I am nt suppoorting the political side of religion at all, but the value of spirituality and its corelation with the human condition cannot be understated,. As we are predisposed to the spirit of the plant allies, so are we predisposed to ponder our origins and power that is beyond out three dimensions.

Every culture on this planet is rich with myth and legend. It is who we are. Most people have some sort of philosophy and it is plain that the human beast benefits from this. Whether it is prayer, stalking, dancing, meditation, fasting, chanting, or walking on hot coals the human spirit is fortified by spiritualism.

I honor all types of philosophy, because I see that we have receptors for faith and spiritualism that can be switched "on" by certain acts of faith, as well as certain natural alkaloids. It really matters not the reoute by which a person comes by a philosophy, but the value to human heath, well being, satisfaction amd competeness is irrefutable.

It may not be for everyone, just like cannabis can not help everyone. But the vast majority of people benefit from spiritual exploration.

There are plant allies that are physical healers and those that are spiitual healers, and those that are both. Marijuana is more physical than spiritual. Peyoteand Juachuma are more spiritual than physical. The magic mushroom is entirely spiritual.

Juachuma (San Pedro) is legal and is proof positive of the power of spirituality....the triad of power that is plain to the spiritually enlightened. The architectural design of the DNA molecule, and its correlation between the triad. The spirit supports the mind, the mind supports then physical body, and then body in turn supports the spirit and the mind. Once the trial is acknowledged, a person can dwell and draw power from the physical as well as the spiritual and mental.

So it is very real...At least it is real to those who have learned to harness it. It promootes health, happiness, and physical strenth. It has been used for centuries to gain power for both good and evil. It is stil being used to this day for physical and mental health and its effectiveness can not be refuted. Many more people use it than cannabis, and a vast majority of cannabis users employ spirituality in their arsemnal to combat physical disease as well as mental unrest.

I invite any of you to experience the plant ally of Juachuma in an effort to enlighten you. If it does not reveal the spiritual world in all its glory then you may be one of the few that are unable to experience that level of spirituality. I would expect that at the very least it wil be a beutiful and enlightening experience that will give you many tools that will benefit you in your life. WHether you percieve these gifts as coming from the spiritual world or not is irrelevant, as long as you can reap the benefits.

[chance942]

Cut a 6" piece off, remove the stickers(easy),skin it and eat everything but the core. Tastes horrible but it IS awesome. You can buy it legally too. You might get something like "don't let your dog eat it" but you can buy it.It is the Peyote of South America. Cannabis reacts well with it too. Like fungi puts you in touch w/ the mother,Pedro will put you in touch with yourself. Oh yeah and you can drink ANYBODY under the table if you chose to do so. Thought you might like that since you aren't religious but the plant is sacred. Treat it as so. If you're interested email me,I can tell you exactly where to get it besides e-bay.

[bedrockbob]

Cut a 6" piece off, remove the stickers(easy),skin it and eat everything but the core. Tastes horrible but it IS awesome. You can buy it legally too. You might get something like "don't let your dog eat it" but you can buy it.It is the Peyote of South America. Cannabis reacts well with it too. Like fungi puts you in touch w/ the mother,Pedro will put you in touch with yourself. Oh yeah and you can drink ANYBODY under the table if you chose to do so. Thought you might like that since you aren't religious but the plant is sacred. Treat it as so. If you're interested email me,I can tell you exactly where to get it besides e-bay.


And I can get it for you too. I grow 'em. I make a drink out of them.
You can fiind them at the Osuna Nursery, the cactus farm in Las Lunas, and many paces in Artizona. It is the big momma healer and will set you straight both physically and mentally.

[boaz]

Time to move.

no doubt. :stoned: I'm considering checking out NM or CO in a few years. This part of the state is beautiful but it sux not being able to grow here.

[chance942]

And I can get it for you too. I grow 'em. I make a drink out of them.
You can fiind them at the Osuna Nursery, the cactus farm in Las Lunas, and many paces in Artizona. It is the big momma healer and will set you straight both physically and mentally.

Wild Bill's,Bob? I believe that is what the place in TorC is called. Does the drink taste any better than eating the flesh? I guess you could add something or another. Ah Bob don't tell me that yer not gonna talk to me anymore because I rounded up them pricklies and threw em away.:) I like talkin to you so hopefully you're just busy. Do you think our Indian population uses S.P.? I've heard rumors of the dwindling Peyote supply so I was just wondering what your take on that may be. Over the summer I did a lot of landscaping for a lady who's husband works through NMSU w/ the Mescalero Apaches and she had some Peyote on her window seal AND a huge Pete outside on the porch. She had no idea what it was and was very intrigued when I told her. I don't know much more about the rest but I've heard that all cacti are psychoactive in some form. Hope that green is doin you well my friend. Later on.

[bedrockbob]

Wild Bill's,Bob? I believe that is what the place in TorC is called. Does the drink taste any better than eating the flesh? I guess you could add something or another. Ah Bob don't tell me that yer not gonna talk to me anymore because I rounded up them pricklies and threw em away.:) I like talkin to you so hopefully you're just busy. Do you think our Indian population uses S.P.? I've heard rumors of the dwindling Peyote supply so I was just wondering what your take on that may be. Over the summer I did a lot of landscaping for a lady who's husband works through NMSU w/ the Mescalero Apaches and she had some Peyote on her window seal AND a huge Pete outside on the porch. She had no idea what it was and was very intrigued when I told her. I don't know much more about the rest but I've heard that all cacti are psychoactive in some form. Hope that green is doin you well my friend. Later on.

Why the heck would I care about prickly pears? Cactus clone easily and there are plenty, I have burned the thorns off the things with a propane burner to get the cattle to eat them.

The drink is pretty bad but you just get it down and its over. You use lemons to lower the Ph (alkaloids are soluable at about 5.5) and it makes it taste better too.

Peyote is amost extinct in the wild. More in Taos than around Falcon Lake. You can certainly get a full on psychedelic experience with peyote and that is tough with SP unless it is refined or something. No other plant ally has been as healing for me. I do one ceremony a year and I feel that it is helping me withstand and be strong. I am a better, happier person for it.

I have a bunch of cactus and I am going to be selling them soon. I have spent the last three years growing out enough to market and it is time. I have them from 5' tall and many branched, to 6" tall and rooted. They clone very easlily and are a cinch to grow. A single 5 gallon pot with 4-6 heads on it will provide a ceremony twice a year as well as new clones.

They are completely legal and they are powerful. Effects last a full 12 hours or more and are much different than Peyote, which is almost entirely mescaline. Possessing and selling the cactus are completely legal, but you cant sell juice. I believe that dried cactus, fresh cut cactus, and cactus pills with dried powder inside are legal too.

There are a bunch of cactus that have active alkaloids. There are a bunch that have some poison alkaloids too. Dona Ana (Corypantha macromeris) is a big time narcotic and will knock you out for a couple of days like ruphenol. It grows all over New Mexico.

Then there is DMT! A whole different ballgame! Binary spirits, Ayahuasca, Ayahuasca Borealis, Pharmahuasca, smoking phalaris extract, etc. etc. And New Mexico set another precedent here in Santa Fe with the 1999 ruling on the Church UDV and their right to use ceremonial ayahuasca. So there is another very good healer of both mind and spirit that is available to us to experience!

I highly reccommend any of these to anyone. Google them. Do your research. You will find that they are powerful healers of body and spirit and have been used for that for centuries. They are legal, and they are completely safe in every way (from what I have been able to find out and from my personal experience).

[chance942]

Yeah the God part made it seem cheesy, like something you hear on the Christian Channel or something with the old nuns.

-C

Nice dog.

[chance942]

Why the heck would I care about prickly pears? Cactus clone easily and there are plenty, I have burned the thorns off the things with a propane burner to get the cattle to eat them.

The drink is pretty bad but you just get it down and its over. You use lemons to lower the Ph (alkaloids are soluable at about 5.5) and it makes it taste better too.

Peyote is amost extinct in the wild. More in Taos than around Falcon Lake. You can certainly get a full on psychedelic experience with peyote and that is tough with SP unless it is refined or something. No other plant ally has been as healing for me. I do one ceremony a year and I feel that it is helping me withstand and be strong. I am a better, happier person for it.

I have a bunch of cactus and I am going to be selling them soon. I have spent the last three years growing out enough to market and it is time. I have them from 5' tall and many branched, to 6" tall and rooted. They clone very easlily and are a cinch to grow. A single 5 gallon pot with 4-6 heads on it will provide a ceremony twice a year as well as new clones.

They are completely legal and they are powerful. Effects last a full 12 hours or more and are much different than Peyote, which is almost entirely mescaline. Possessing and selling the cactus are completely legal, but you cant sell juice. I believe that dried cactus, fresh cut cactus, and cactus pills with dried powder inside are legal too.

There are a bunch of cactus that have active alkaloids. There are a bunch that have some poison alkaloids too. Dona Ana (Corypantha macromeris) is a big time narcotic and will knock you out for a couple of days like ruphenol. It grows all over New Mexico.

Then there is DMT! A whole different ballgame! Binary spirits, Ayahuasca, Ayahuasca Borealis, Pharmahuasca, smoking phalaris extract, etc. etc. And New Mexico set another precedent here in Santa Fe with the 1999 ruling on the Church UDV and their right to use ceremonial ayahuasca. So there is another very good healer of both mind and spirit that is available to us to experience!

I highly reccommend any of these to anyone. Google them. Do your research. You will find that they are powerful healers of body and spirit and have been used for that for centuries. They are legal, and they are completely safe in every way (from what I have been able to find out and from my personal experience).

I wrote you some pretty personal stuff to no response,must be that missing bubble or the schizo! Haha no but I have used Pete many times and I totally agree. I have never tried Peyote or the others you mentioned. Yeah it is powerful! One time that I ate it I couldn't stop laughing,like a person's first real MJ high,I was giggling and just friggin couldn't stop! This punk ass I knew saw me and was like you really can't hold your liquor OR brick stick. I said yeah you're damn right buddy that is ALL I'm under the influence right now. That was early during my first time. The rest of the night I stuck w/ my trip buddy and we both soon realized how much respect the plant deserved. I had bought it in TorC,3 stalks in a pot bout 18" each. The rest was consumed in a much different way. As was the fungi. For quite awhile it was my DOC since I pulled them from a pusher for a ridiculously low price. Crack me,I bleed blue Mexicans. There was a time of oh 2 months or so that I almost always had a "dip" cap in my lip. Everybody I knew was ever wiser as I dipped cope snuff constantly. Damn that shit is expensive now. Grizzly snuff isn't bad and I honestly prefer it over cope.Today I bought 10 cans for $23,sweeeeeeeeeeeet. Not at Sam's or Costco either. Speaking of which I got a hankering. Later on Bob

[DogtowN]

"Religion is the opiate of the masses"
Too funny, the guy who whines about the OPs religion-tainted post, has no problem when it comes to "preaching" his own particular beliefs. The hypocrisy is hilarious. :D

Me? I believe in "live and let live". It ain't religion, just common courtesy. :rolleyes:

[bedrockbob]

There was a time of oh 2 months or so that I almost always had a "dip" cap in my lip. Everybody I knew was ever wiser as I dipped cope snuff constantly. Damn that shit is expensive now. Grizzly snuff isn't bad and I honestly prefer it over cope.Today I bought 10 cans for $23,sweeeeeeeeeeeet. Not at Sam's or Costco either. Speaking of which I got a hankering. Later on Bob

Chance, I chewed Cope for about 25 years or so. Man I couldnt be without a mouthful. That stuff is deadly.

I quit tobacco when I was about 35 years old. I was tobacco free for 7 years. I was in Mexico scuba diving one year. When I came up out of the water I smelled the boat captain's Cuban cigar. I thought I could enjoy a few puffs of that beutiful thick smoke and not relapse. Within a year I was smoking 8 Macanudo Ascots a day. I couldnt hunt elk smelling like cigars so I started chewing Cope again. By the time it was all over I had it in my mouth all the time and I had lost 25 lbs.

I finally am tobacco free again for the last six months. It really made the PTSD worse beacause t is such a powerful poison and stimulant. I would find myself in a little situation, suck up a big swallow of Kentucky's finest tobacco juice, and three minutes later the fight was on! It is like being on a constant nicotine drip. Need reinforcement? Just swallow!

Sleep and appetite are my two main problems. Cannabis helps both and tobacco makes them worse. What a drug though! I wish I had a big wad of Copenhagen right now. I reach for my can 20 times a day still!

[coolslayer]

Cool!

[chance942]

Chance, I chewed Cope for about 25 years or so. Man I couldnt be without a mouthful. That stuff is deadly.

I quit tobacco when I was about 35 years old. I was tobacco free for 7 years. I was in Mexico scuba diving one year. When I came up out of the water I smelled the boat captain's Cuban cigar. I thought I could enjoy a few puffs of that beutiful thick smoke and not relapse. Within a year I was smoking 8 Macanudo Ascots a day. I couldnt hunt elk smelling like cigars so I started chewing Cope again. By the time it was all over I had it in my mouth all the time and I had lost 25 lbs.

I finally am tobacco free again for the last six months. It really made the PTSD worse beacause t is such a powerful poison and stimulant. I would find myself in a little situation, suck up a big swallow of Kentucky's finest tobacco juice, and three minutes later the fight was on! It is like being on a constant nicotine drip. Need reinforcement? Just swallow!

Sleep and appetite are my two main problems. Cannabis helps both and tobacco makes them worse. What a drug though! I wish I had a big wad of Copenhagen right now. I reach for my can 20 times a day still!

I started when I was 15 because all "tough cowboys do".Man what a crock of shit. Man 6 months is awesome,my weak ass has only been able to go 1 month.
Ah so you dive as well eh Bob. I've been certified for 18yrs now! Nicotine calms me but significantly reduces the effectiveness of Xanax. If I wasn't reaching for and finding my can 20 times a day I'd quit. Screw heroin,heroin is a weanling and nicotine is a stud colt. Sleep and appetite,all to familiar. I have no recognizable pattern and very few short and far between urges to eat. I've lost 30# since October. I was 6',200# and now I seem to get guys looking at me me longer than they used to. You know,pondering "I could take him". I'm thankful that the muscle strength I do have came from years of hard work. We both know that their is no comparison between work obtained strength and lifting weights and protein shakes. I've lost a lot of weight but I continue to take my vitamin regimen and I eat a lot of flax.I've lost a lot of weight but it may not be such a bad thing. My blood work is all "excellent" and I owe that to that damn ditch and those 100+# mankillers. I used to go get our oats in bulk from Claude Barry in ELP or NAPI on the rez. I unloaded the ton into 100# burlaps and stacked em. There used to be a place in Mesquite that would sell feed in one ton bags and a place right next to Sunland where they got your order and filled 50# papers before your eyes. Those were the days. Anyway it seems as if we might have more incommon than originally thought. Later on.

[Rainie]

Chance... I really liked your 2 horses story! Youre a smart, sharp dude.
The non-religious types scare me kinda. Ive seen things (me and my family) in this world that are pure evil. Ive lived in haunted houses and I know for a fact.. that if the evil exists.. so does the good and I believe in the power of prayer. I am into Edgar Cayce teachings and healings and I know God exists.
So.. not to get too religious.. I just wanted to say good story and youre a good person. I like how you dont let the haters get to you !
Oh and the person who wrote about choosing your words wisely is soooo right too. your words have power as do your thoughts. I come from a strong native american family , and have been to many ceremonies and seen ALOT of things that would blow your mind!!! (and NO I wasnt HIGH when I seen them)
so..whether you call Him the creator, God, or whatever.. He does exist!!

Peace, love and smoke ~ :)

:hippy:

[coolslayer]

Ha HA

[ForgetClassC]

Ahmen.

-C

[coolslayer]

Good doggy.