step right up to see irydyum's GHSco.-all orgainic-giant tree extraviganza w/ a twist

[headshake]

what's good ladies and gentlemen? me and my boy irydyum decided to switch it up a little bit on the boards. he's got a monster grow show going and monster laziness to boot so he kicked me some pics and told me to do his dirty work. he's shown me nothing from love from day one so i don't mind in the least. (i know some of you readers might because you know how bad i suck at keeping grow logs! lol.) but enough with the preface let's get on to the introductions.

let's start by introducing the room that these bitches will be forced to grow up in. this started out as the back of a closet that he has since pimped into oblivion.

he's running 1x 400W MH, 1x 400W HPS. there is a can fan, carbon filter, fan for circulation and a humidifier as well. keep in mind the closet was put together from scratch including the running of two dedicated circuits, one for each light.

more to follow......


-shake

pic 1- huh, pretty nifty huh?
pic 2- looking professional, bio bizz feeding chart and the extinguisher.....saftey first!
pic 3- ballast's up high, keep that nasty heat away.
pic 4- a wider shot

[headshake]

i'm gonna try to keep the entries short so their won't be a lot of pics posted and no text for you reading types. so here are some more shots of the dungeon.

-shake

pic 1- lights on
pic 2- where does that door in the back of the closet go?
pic 3- oh yeah! the dungeon!

[frostedwonder]

I am going to build my next house with that idea in mind! All aboard! I am on this ride..nice setup

[MerryPrankstr]

Very nice, Shake.
Did you recieve your coins yet?
M.P.

[headshake]

and now the ladies of the hour......

there is 2x trainwreck, 2x ams, 1 white widow and 1x church all from greenhouse seed co. stock.

they were started roughly around the beginning of december.....but oh how they have grown so.....but more on that later.....

they were all started under the MH and allowed to veg under it until they were too big to fit underneath just one light.

-shake

pic 1- 12/5
pic 2/3- 12/12 (date not lighting)
pic 4/5- 12/17

[headshake]

Very nice, Shake.
Did you recieve your coins yet?
M.P.

can't take credit for the work, but i'm sure irydyum appreciates the kind words.

as far as the coins, have not seen them as of yet. but i hope they get here soon because i just got very excited! lol. let me know what coins you'd like in return.


-shake

[headshake]

okay, so the plants were started in small jiffy pots, with fox farms light warrior (i think). they then made their way into 6" square pots and biobizz all mix. the nutes used for this party are biobizz biogrow, biobloom and top max. 100% organic, simple to use and i think the results speak for themselves. i'll let y'all decide though.

and people want to hate on orgainics, fuh!?


-shake


pic 1- 12/25 a little christmas action
pic 2- 12/31 and some new years eve action
pic 3/4- 1/3 look at those freadking fans!
pic 5- 1/14 only 11 days later!

[MerryPrankstr]

I'm good to go in that respect, but thank you very, very much.

I was able to obtain 50 of Reservoir Seeds various strains including Chemdog, Killer Queen, 4SD, Strawberry Diesel F2. and Ultimate Strawberry Diesel.:)

M.P.

[headshake]

just trying to get some pics out there and get everything current so please don't get hostile just yet.

-shake

pic 1/4- 1/23 i think they got flipped around this time. damn they got big so freaking quick!

[headshake]

I'm good to go in that respect, but thank you very, very much.

I was able to obtain 50 of Reservoir Seeds various strains including Chemdog, Killer Queen, 4SD, Strawberry Diesel F2. and Ultimate Strawberry Diesel.:)

M.P.

damn, very nice M.P.! let me know how that stawberry diesel treats you. sounds like a winner at least!

-shake

[headshake]

and some more pics to try to get us current.

-shake


pic 1/4- 2/1 look at those beats! and their cute little pre-flowers!

[headshake]

damn those are some huge bitches!

-shake

pic 1- speaks for itself.....that is from the floor.

[redtails]

Wow, they still in the 6" pots? If so that's like 40" of beautiful plant so far! Can't wait till I have the lighting and space to grow a nice tree...

[irydyum]

:thumbsup:Thanks for the help bro!!:jointsmile:

[DreadedHermie]

Hey, Shake!

Tell Irydyum his plants look great!


:D

[irydyum]

@ Tails, they are in 5 gal square pots for flower.


Thanx DH

[headshake]

Wow, they still in the 6" pots? If so that's like 40" of beautiful plant so far! Can't wait till I have the lighting and space to grow a nice tree...

see irydyums answer! lol.


:thumbsup:Thanks for the help bro!!:jointsmile:

fa sho! you know your my nug!


Hey, Shake!

Tell Irydyum his plants look great!


:D

i think he got the message DH!


@ Tails, they are in 5 gal square pots for flower.


Thanx DH

yeah, what he said.


-shake

[irydyum]

Here's an update, day 16 flowering. Just now starting to show the little poof balls that will soon be juicy nuggets. They are all in 5 gallon square pots, and the tallest is about 52" from the ground. MUCH taller than I expected considering everything I have is an indica. If I hadn't bent the White Widow over it probably would be knocking on 6 feet now.

[MerryPrankstr]

Looking really nice!
They look vibrant and ready to explode. Maybe it's just me but there is an inherent raw beauty in all cannabis plants, these are really glowing with that force.

M.P.

[irydyum]

Thanks a bunch for the kind words MP. You must spread blah blah blah... I tried :mad:

[Elliot89]

Yoo those plants are lookin nice :D How long did u veg them for?

Oh and nice setup ;)

[irydyum]

Vegged em about 45 days. Thanks for stopping in!

[irydyum]

I think it's 23, or 24 maybe. Either way they are starting to flower pretty quickly now. The Church is really starting to pack on trichs already, and the Trainwreck looks like a beautiful bush. Here's a couple pics from before lights on today.

[headshake]

it's funny how around day 21 plants really start throwing out flowers!

good shit my friend!


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

Great grow room irydyum:thumbsup:Looks like you put some time an effort in this set up, but il bet it saves the back leaning over in that tent iv seen you use. Plus it looks like you got a room filled with lots of wonderful strains. Looks like the plants are pretty happy man:hippy:

This will be fun to watch for sure:weedpoke:

Thanks for the show irydyum:rasta:

[irydyum]

Sad news. Trainwreck seems to have a penchant toward the hermaphrodidic, so, one has been killed (it was riddled with little nutsacks) and the second one lives on. The second one didn't have near the problem the other did, I was able to pull off about 5 that I found. I'll have to keep a vigilant eye out from here on, I don't want that stinker knockin up my girls.

The others, AMS, Church, and White Widow seem to be doing fine.

This is my second grow with Greenhouse femenized stock, and I won't be giving them my business again. Hermies back to back.

I'm going back to the tried and true method of culling males and cloning, femenized has been fun, but it's old school or no school for this cat from now on.

Anyone have any nice "stable" genetics they would be willing to donate to a grower who will treat them well, please hit me up. I know that's a far cry, especially since I can't return the favor of genetics, unless you want some hermie beans. Figured I would throw it out there.

Peace love and dope

[jtsik330]

Sad news. Trainwreck seems to have a penchant toward the hermaphrodidic, so, one has been killed (it was riddled with little nutsacks) and the second one lives on. The second one didn't have near the problem the other did, I was able to pull off about 5 that I found. I'll have to keep a vigilant eye out from here on, I don't want that stinker knockin up my girls.

The others, AMS, Church, and White Widow seem to be doing fine.

This is my second grow with Greenhouse femenized stock, and I won't be giving them my business again. Hermies back to back.

I'm going back to the tried and true method of culling males and cloning, femenized has been fun, but it's old school or no school for this cat from now on.

Anyone have any nice "stable" genetics they would be willing to donate to a grower who will treat them well, please hit me up. I know that's a far cry, especially since I can't return the favor of genetics, unless you want some hermie beans. Figured I would throw it out there.

Peace love and dope

Thats garbage, I understand "it can happen" when you purchased feminized seeds. BUT I have already seen several reports of plants herming in the last few weeks from seeds purchased from Greenhouse. I will be looking elsewhere for fem seeds as well. :)

[tristan1986]

heya shake :)
Just a quick thought a large mirror (full length mirror) on some hinges would completely cover that door and also wouldnt look out of place in a closet :)

Could make it extremely stealth :thumbsup:

[superskunk1]

Sad news. Trainwreck seems to have a penchant toward the hermaphrodidic, so, one has been killed (it was riddled with little nutsacks) and the second one lives on. The second one didn't have near the problem the other did, I was able to pull off about 5 that I found. I'll have to keep a vigilant eye out from here on, I don't want that stinker knockin up my girls.

The others, AMS, Church, and White Widow seem to be doing fine.

This is my second grow with Greenhouse femenized stock, and I won't be giving them my business again. Hermies back to back.

I'm going back to the tried and true method of culling males and cloning, femenized has been fun, but it's old school or no school for this cat from now on.

Anyone have any nice "stable" genetics they would be willing to donate to a grower who will treat them well, please hit me up. I know that's a far cry, especially since I can't return the favor of genetics, unless you want some hermie beans. Figured I would throw it out there.

Peace love and dope

Damn irydyum that really sucks to hear I've been looking into this grow just havent had the chance to post and congrats on your ladies show, but now that you have said that greenhouse has heming problems with there feminized line of seeds I am pretty mad, I have (white rhino, lemon skunk, SSH, big bang) all fem in in there seedling stage and was hoping to make a few mothers.

And if I ever have a good batch of seeds that I know are worth it I will keep you in mind.

[stra8outtaWeed]

i think shake and irydyum are going to be busy with some new genes soon!:jointsmile:

i know for a fact that several are very stable!:thumbsup:

[irydyum]

Appreciate it man. AMS had a nutsack on it today too. I just can't win with these. I'm going to pull off everything I can as I see it and pray for the best.

Sorry you have your grow invested in GHS as well, hopefully you won't see any of the problems with them I have had.

I would be blaming myself for it too if I hadn't had strains stay stable for me in the past. I know it's not my practice that's causing this, I'm pretty dialed in to what I'm doing. It's just the result of a stupid decision I made when ordering about a year ago, and this is my last run of the femmed beans I have.

Back to basics for me. Going to try my damnedest to get ahold of Jilly Bean and Querkle regular seeds from TGA Subcool. I'll be back with a good mother before I know it.

Till then, I just may have to pay attention when I pack a bowl :jointsmile:

[irydyum]

Lord knows I can use em Str8. Got this green thumb and whack ass genes. I had my hands on a fantastic cut of Mango when I was in Chicago and that was my bread and butter (avatar pic). Moved and lost hold of the genes, and now I'm back to hermaphs. What a let down.

Another thing I have noticed is there seems to be no stability in phenotype with any of their strains. Each bean I pop turns into something different than the same pack next to it. I'm all for a little diversity, but theirs needs a little more work and a little less marketing. Just one growers humble opinion.

[irydyum]

Here's a couple pics from today, everyone likes eye candy.

Pic one, the remaining 5.
Pic two, macro of the Church, no nutsacks on her....yet
Pic three, 2 AMS, 1 White Widow
Pic four, Trainwreck front, Church back

[raizla]

I can't beleive these plants are in such small pots! They look very healthy though. Are you planning on upsizing or just doing the whole grow as is?

[irydyum]

They aren't that small, they are 5 gallons. The plants are just huge so the pots look tiny. They will finish fine in these though, no worries.

Thanks for stoppin:jointsmile:

[bigtopsfinn]

Nice grow Irydyum :thumbsup:

Sucks to hear about the herms :( According to Franco himself at GHS, the TW has a 20-30% chance of herm. Some of their strains are more stable, but the more I read about seeds and genetics, the more I want to just get the standard beans from now on. I guess it's kind of hit-or-miss with the fems, cuz 3 of mine have been fine so far, hope I'm not 'due' on this 4th one I have going :wtf:

Looking forward to seeing more :jointsmile:

[EvilCartman]

Spectacular grow, Irydyum. This is gonna be a doozy! :)

I love your big girls! :D :thumbsup:

[stra8outtaWeed]

looks like you're gonna have some good smoke soon!:jointsmile:

[irydyum]

Thanks for the compliments guys, right on time, I needed to hear something good to counteract the invasion happening.

As far as 20 to 30% herms, why the fuck would you release that strain to market? Seems insulting to consumers to just slip that one by. Do you remember where you read about that?

@Cartman, I love growing trees, pushing the envelope of what my lights can do for me is very gratifying.

[bigtopsfinn]

I don't wanna post the link cuz it's on another message board, but if you google "Trainwreck this is what I got", it's the first link, post #161


well, to be honest with you and everyone else, I am still studying this banana-rama phenomenon on the wreck. At first I related it to temperature at end of flowering, but then I had proof of the contrary. So I did a matrix feeding test, but the results were random as well. Now I am linking it to light stress and temp drops, but I am still studying.
Anyway, from all the feedback we get about the strain, I can safely say that in 20-30 % of cases few bananas will show up. By no means I consider it a problem, just a signature of the plant.

...
__________________
Franco

[irydyum]

The one I killed was RIDDLED at the nodes, a few even had multiple bananas. He may not consider it a problem, but I do. I can't believe he pawns it off as a "trait" of the plant. I like Franco a bunch too, but he loses a few cool points from me here.

[bigtopsfinn]

Yeah I think Franco's a good guy, he takes a lot of shit for being a GHS grower. I just find it strange that the 'King of Cannabis' doesn't even sell regular seeds :wtf: Oh well, I don't want to start the same GHS bashing that's already all over the net. I think their products are OK, great for a noob, and many people have had success with them (including myself). The old saying goes, don't put all your eggs in one basket, and I find this to be so fitting regarding seedbanks and breeders. Also the one that goes 'life is like a box of chocolates...' :D

[headshake]

the problem is that we are PAYING FOR GENETICS, NOT BEANS! that's why beans cost so freaking much. and apparently the breeders have a problem releasing males of their plants. i love how it's in the growers best interest to have only fem'd plants. what the fuck ever!

20-30% hermie is not acceptable at any rate! PERIOD! that's like saying one out of three or four cars will be worthless in a month after you buy it. sorry, but those are not good odds.

i'm not bashing greenhouse specifically, although this case does pertain to them.

we are paying for gentics, so if the genetics aren't right then why do we send them our money? looks like some querkle and jilly bean in the near future!


-shake

[ledtime]

How do you get the light so close? If I'm any closer than 14" my widow starts to light bleach. I'm running a 400W in a cool tube.

[irydyum]

I did see a little tiny bit of bleaching in the White Widow I have, I'm just not all that concerned with it. It wasn't much and it doesn't seem to have done much harm.

The AMS grew into the HPS and was about 4 inches from it, I did manage to burn a couple leaves on that one, but I just raised the light a touch, and cut the burned leaves off.

I don't know how I keep it that close, most of the tops are in the 8-10" range from lights. Open reflectors. Temps at the canopy peak at about 82-83. 2 oscillating fans. Keep in mind these plants are pushing 5 feet tall also, I think larger plants are a little harder to hurt, in my experience.

[ledtime]

My widow is the one that seems to be touchy. My sensi star and power kush are just fine with it a little closer.... Your plants are looking very nice. Might have to try out Biobizz on the next run.

[oldhaole]

Very impressive grow. What do the bottoms look like? You going to stage harvest them or take "em all?

Are your hermies pollen fertile? I've seen some strains over here that will just throw a stamen of two but the pollen is sterile. When you see three or four stamens per top it is time to take the plant. Never had a seed.

[Italiano715]

What's go on skake and irydum!? Been awhile since I've checked up on these boards! See things are well! Good vibes my friends!

[irydyum]

Very impressive grow. What do the bottoms look like? You going to stage harvest them or take "em all?

Are your hermies pollen fertile? I've seen some strains over here that will just throw a stamen of two but the pollen is sterile. When you see three or four stamens per top it is time to take the plant. Never had a seed.

I couldn't say yet if it's sterile or fertile, just scary. The Trainwreck that I chopped was showing multiple stamens at some nodes, hence the murder. The other TW and the AMS that have shown has been very few and far between. I'll pray that it's sterile, or that if it does pollinate that it is limited damage.

I'm not sure yet about partial/full harvest either. That is kind of going to depend on how these strains mature. This is my first run with all of these and I'm less than optimistic about all of them but the Church. There seems to be something special about that one.

On a funny side note, bought a sack yesterday, and it looked and smelled wonderful. Closer inspection revealed that the nuggets had dried up little male flowers on em. Not a bunch, just a couple here and there. When it rains it pours I guess. Maybe someone is trying to tell me something.:wtf:

Welcome back Italiano! Glad to have you drop by:jointsmile:

[headshake]

damn dude, i hope no one is trying to tell you anything. that's just not cool. hope all is well!

-shake

[irydyum]

Just snapped off some pics of the ladies today before lights on and figured I would share them. Not much to say, haven't seen anymore male flowers lurking, they are probably all buried in buds with my luck. Anyway, here they are.
1. Garden b4 lights on
2. AMS Cola
3. Trainwreck bud
4. Church macro
5. Giant AMS Cola

[irydyum]

1. Church
2. Trainwreck
3. TW Cola
4. Church cola

[stra8outtaWeed]

lookin sweet...if you find any seeds throw em' away...feed em to the birds...just don't waste your time with them!

are those 5 gal squares? square pots are the best!:thumbsup:

[irydyum]

I agree about the beans. Never used any hermie beans that I have produced, although some that are less fortunate may want them:D

They are 5 gal squares, my preference. Used to use 3 gallon rounds in flower, but always ended up rootbound too early.

[TurboALLWD]

I agree about the beans. Never used any hermie beans that I have produced, although some that are less fortunate may want them:D

They are 5 gal squares, my preference. Used to use 3 gallon rounds in flower, but always ended up rootbound too early.


Are you with growing co2? Plants look awesome :smokin:

[irydyum]

Negative on co2. I have to keep my exhaust on at all times to keep temps under control, so it would be a moot point. Planning on getting air cooled hoods to deal with heat in the near future tho.

[TurboALLWD]

Ever think about using some A/C? That's where its at, takes around 3,500btu's to cool a 1,000w, and probably a lot less when its air cooled. There is a problem with running one in a sealed room though. I basically had two options, I could take option A and buy a thousand dollar split a/c unit(not an option at all for me) or I could fabricate an intake to the intake side of a cheap, used a/c unit so I could use external air to cool the a/c. It's pulling in cold air from outside and cooling the a/c really well, the exhaust is vented into the basement, the compressor can pretty much stay running contstantly lol. It was as simple as taping a dish washing container 12''x12'' plastic tote to the a/c, and cutting a 6'' hole for ducting and installing a flange. I bought another used a/c unit for when this one takes a dump, i figure it's only a matter of time running constantly 12hrs a day.

[irydyum]

I have looked into a/c. I don't have any windows or anything tho so I was thinking one of the portable type. I suppose my only concern is if I air cool my lights and put a/c money into another light, would it be energy better spent?

I'm kinda on the fence with it as of now, summer will probably go ahead and answer the dilemma for me though. I suppose ideally I would have both, it's just not an option at the moment.

One step at a time someone wiser than me once said.

[TurboALLWD]

I have looked into a/c. I don't have any windows or anything tho so I was thinking one of the portable type. I suppose my only concern is if I air cool my lights and put a/c money into another light, would it be energy better spent?

I'm kinda on the fence with it as of now, summer will probably go ahead and answer the dilemma for me though. I suppose ideally I would have both, it's just not an option at the moment.

One step at a time someone wiser than me once said.


I'm no expert by any means, haha, but I think it would have to do with you're room size and current wattage. I've ran 2,000w in a 900 cubic foot room, air cooled with a couple tiny leaks coming from the hoods(just duct tape sealed) and the temps wanted to hit 86-87deg's, thats with 700cfm's blowing through the two hoods. I know 86 is ideal with full co2 enrichment, but I like my room to be a little cooler than that. This was in a sealed room with co2 in a basement where the room was normally 60 degrees with nothing plugged in.

The problem I ran into is that it seems best to lower the co2 level close to whats in the air normally during the last couple weeks of flowering as it will prevent the plants from ripening. So that really throws a curve ball in there when you have strains finishing every month or less. lol

If you don't have any windows you'll need to vent the intake and exhaust from the portable a/c outside of the room. Depending on you're room size and desired wattage you might not even need a/c w/co2 around 86 degrees.

Hope I'm not coming off as some kind of grow consultant, just trying to shoot the shit bro :stoned:

[irydyum]

I'm pretty secure in what I do, no harm done here. If I didn't do some listening I wouldn't be where I am. Any time good info can hit my log, I'm all about it. I don't care what it's about. You wanna come here and vent, shoot the shit, tell a joke, feel free. It's all good as far as I'm concerned.

If I wasn't running constant exhaust my temps would probably be more in the 90's range. As it is I usually hit a high around 83 so I'm pushing the envelope all the time. Ideally co2 will be in the future, so I'll store all the input for sure.

[TurboALLWD]

I'm pretty secure in what I do, no harm done here. If I didn't do some listening I wouldn't be where I am. Any time good info can hit my log, I'm all about it. I don't care what it's about. You wanna come here and vent, shoot the shit, tell a joke, feel free. It's all good as far as I'm concerned.

If I wasn't running constant exhaust my temps would probably be more in the 90's range. As it is I usually hit a high around 83 so I'm pushing the envelope all the time. Ideally co2 will be in the future, so I'll store all the input for sure.

cool man, I can vent all day about heat issues, now that I finally have them under control, haha. I was lucky enough to pick up my 11,000btu A/C for $100 and modify it for the intake pipe for less than 10 bucks.

I'm curious as to what nutes you're using, right now im just using floranova and some calmag, but I'm considering a switch to one of the humboldt lines.

[irydyum]

Early veg, I usually use Maxicrop, 2 or 3 doses, then I switch to the biobizz line. BioGrow, BioBloom, and TopMaxx. I typically keep with the manufacturers schedule except I double up on feedings from week 3 thru week 5 of flower, then I cut nutes all together in week 6. They recommend feeding through harvest but it seems a waste to me.

I'm sure there are better lines out there, but BioBizz has been so easy to use that I don't want to switch, right now:D I typically use their All Mix soil too, but it wasn't available at my local store since I moved, so I switched to Canna soil. It has been holding up just as well. It's prefortified with guano and lime and all the goodies.

It just seems really user friendly to me. I started out with FoxFarm soil and nutes and had ph issues and lockouts all the time, switched on a recommendation from someone about BioBizz and haven't looked back.

[headshake]

damn, those plants are small man!

-shake

[irydyum]

Chuggin right along. Buds still putting on mass and swelling daily. I have cut out nitrogen from the feeding and in about 10 days I'll be cutting out feedings altogether. Straight h20 till the homestretch. Here's some pics for those who enjoy em'.

1. Garden b4 lights on
2. Trainwreck
3. Church
4. Trainwreck nug
5. Church nug

[irydyum]

A couple more randoms.

[stra8outtaWeed]

i'll go to that Church..nice and frosty:D

great grow you got goin...looks like some good bud is going to be hangin soon! :jointsmile:

[moody420]

really beautiful pics....and lots of useful info in this thread! :jointsmile:

[irydyum]

Thanks Moody, I appreciate the kind words.

[LetsSeeYa]

Looks great there irydyum:thumbsup:and awesome pic's too. Gotta luv that macro setting. All your plants look healthy and happy as they can be:hippy:
Looking forward to seeing that giant cola on the TW:thumbsup:

Take care man:rasta:

[irydyum]

Thanks for dropping in LSY. Always happy to have you stop by:D

[Shovelhandle]

Chuggin right along. Buds still putting on mass and swelling daily. I have cut out nitrogen from the feeding and in about 10 days I'll be cutting out feedings altogether. Straight h20 till the homestretch. Here's some pics for those who enjoy em'.

1. Garden b4 lights on
2. Trainwreck
3. Church
4. Trainwreck nug
5. Church nug

Beauty!

(oops, did not know that the photos would not follow the quote.)

[irydyum]

(oops, did not know that the photos would not follow the quote.)

You lost me here Shov. The pics from that post do follow the quote, left to right and top to bottom. Or did you smokey smokey a lil too much before posting? Or did I? Oh no.....

[headshake]

looking good bro. guess you'll be busy soon.

i'm gonna be busy tomorrow morning!


-shake

[irydyum]

For anyone following along, 7 weeks down, 2 to go. These are going to make it to day 62, which by my gorilla math puts us at one day shy of 9 weeks for flowering. These pics are day 48, and special shout out for the dude in the background of a couple:thumbsup: Been great to have you along for the ride! Week 7 and I'm still shooting fresh white pistils all over the place and some of the buds are foxtailing like crazy. Trichs are mostly cloudy white with a sprinkling of clears, no amber yet to speak of. Plan on feeding once more, then flush till the end. Also in about a week I'll be stripping off the majority of the fan leaves to let light penetrate and hopefully improve the flush. Figuring less leaf material will equate to less water pulled up, thus more effective flush? If anyone cares to chime in feel free.

Onward with the pictures.

Pic 1: Church with dude right behind it :hippy:
Pic 2: Church close up secondary nug
Pic 3: Trainwreck
Pic 4: Church
Pic 5: A.M.S. Giant cola (about 15" filled in):D

[irydyum]

It's day 52 and I took small samples from some of the colas to look at under the 60x-100x lens. Tiny samples, about a mm sliver. Most of the close ups revealed at least one all the way to 6 amber trichs. The only one that didn't show any was the white widow, and shes just on her own program since day one.

I'm still sticking to my original window of 62ish days to harvest. I don't like to pass out too hard from my herb. I'll get some more pics up likely later today or tomorrow.

[LetsSeeYa]

It's day 52 and I took small samples from some of the colas to look at under the 60x-100x lens. Tiny samples, about a mm sliver. Most of the close ups revealed at least one all the way to 6 amber trichs. The only one that didn't show any was the white widow, and shes just on her own program since day one.

I'm still sticking to my original window of 62ish days to harvest. I don't like to pass out too hard from my herb. I'll get some more pics up likely later today or tomorrow.

I hear what you say about ''I don't like to pass out too hard from my herb''. My N.L#5 was great on my first harvest. Had a great high without the droopy eyes. The thing is, i smoked till i got that way anyway lol. Man that Church with ''dude'' in it looks killer man. The buds are all nice size and looks so green:hippy:.

Keep er green man :weedpoke::rasta:

[irydyum]

Church got cut at day 53, it was looking too good to pass up. Sprinkling of amber in the trichs and pistils were almost all died back. Showed a hint of purple on the underside of the leaves too. Still have the other 2 ams, the trainwreck and the white widow, but the widow may come down next. It's been a sort of mutant since day 1 and it's taking up more light than it's worth. It just didn't fill in right. That's the price of growing only one representative bean from a strain.

Anyways, here's some pics of the church, i'm so excited to smoke it. May get lucky enough to sample some tomorrow if it's dry enough.

[irydyum]

Here's a couple shots of a nug this morning. About halfway dry, it won't suck in much more. So excited to pull a nasty chalky bongrip of it.

[bigtopsfinn]

Very nice :jointsmile:

[stra8outtaWeed]

you're makin me jones bro....nice shit...wish i was there to smoke down with you....whats funny is i show my pictures to these Chinese folk over here and they go....ooh you gardener..pretty flowers!! haha...they have no idea what it is! it is hilarious!:smokin:

20 days til i come home~the smoke is gonna throw me a new one! :D

[Shovelhandle]

Very nice :jointsmile:

[moody420]

oh yes! how could I forget this thread! :jointsmile:

you got mad skills, man! :D

[LetsSeeYa]

Wow irydyum, killer looking plant man. The colors in that bud would make for a nice framing project. I thought about getting a nice pic of something i grow and frame it and hang in it in my grow space. Your avatar pic would be a nice piece of art on your wall. Hell il bet there might be a market out there for weed porn art:hippy:

Later man:rasta:

[fffuuudesu]

i have GOT to see that shit cured! :yippee:

[irydyum]

So the Church, half the Widow, and one AMS are down now. Still have a trainwreck chugging along, and a christmas tree shaped AMS. The Church came down at 50something, widow tops came off at 55 and an AMS chopped at 59.

I cut the tops off the widow and put the lower growth back under the lights. It's been that way for almost a week now and it doesn't look like anything has changed much to me. I'm not sure how long I should let it take up space.

As for harvest of the other 2, i'm just waiting to let mother nature dictate when to take them. Here's a few pics of the last remaining ladies. I'll keep posting through harvest and try to include a lineup of all the cured goods once i'm there.

Thanks for dropping in:greenthumb:

Pic 1- Trainwreck
Pic 2- Trainwreck Cola
Pic 3- AMS Cola (still growing)
Pic 4- AMS (cut at 59)
Pic 5- AMS , lil xmas tree (still growing)

[demoreal]

I love the control board you made. It even has the mini fire extinguisher. hahaha. nice grow too.
(I am going to have to steal that control board idea):thumbsup:

[headshake]

god damn son, all i can say is holy fuck! and as far as the end result, well for some reason i think i'm chinese lateley!

-shake

[irydyum]

Just wanted to put up a couple pics of the dried AMS. The one plant yielded about 90g dry, can't be upset at all with that. Haven't really smoked it yet since it isn't near cured, but i'll put my 2 cents in on all of them once this grow is done.

Trainwreck and AMS #2 are on day 63 today, i saw some amber trichs on the trainwreck yesterday under the scope, so it's going to be coming down within days. As far as the second AMS, I have a feeling it's right on time too.

Pic 1- Not a bad place to be
Pic 2- AMS Nuggs
Pic 3- Close up of AMS
Pic 4- One of the Twin Colas from AMS

[irydyum]

Pics of Trainwreck and AMS day 63.

Pic 1-Trainwreck
Pic 2-Trainwreck Cola
Pic 3-Trainwreck secondary nugs
Pic 4-AMS
Pic 5-AMS Cola

[stra8outtaWeed]

great lookin knobs you got goin....and a fine set of glass jars for proper storage:thumbsup:

[bigtopsfinn]

WOW :jointsmile:

After looking at pics of what people call "the real Arcata Trainwreck" and looking at yours, I'd rather have yours (and mine that I grew out also :)) You'll be very pleased with the smoke I'm sure ;) Nicely done.

[irydyum]

Thanx for those kind words Finn. I hope it lives up to all the hype. I have only had legitimate trainwreck once before, and it was years back, I'm excited for the reintroduction.

Btw, smoked a lil nug of AMS and I'm having a hard time typing.

[BeFree]

Wow, I've been gone far too long. =D Glad to see you (iry) and Shakezoola doin' the tagteam. Those babes look absolutely fucking gorgeous.

I did make a move from Oklahoma to Washington, so hopefully I can get my card and start up without any concerns.

You guys take it easy and most importantly, have fun.


be

[headshake]

what it do be? what's good with ya? i hope all is well.

i can't say that we tag teamed it, as i'm merely daniel-san to his mr. miyagi! i have learned tons and become a better grower. but i do help him tag team pipes and bongs
and shit!

all i did was post the initial pics cause he was too lazy.

glad to see you back! don't be a stranger.


-shake

[irydyum]

Trainwreck is officially cut at 65 days. Looks wonderful, I can hardly wait to see what it turns out to smoke like. I noticed a couple of the tiny lower buds had a seed or 2 in them, but I expected that. Stupid trainwreck hermie. But, it doesnt seem to have a bunch, and the buds are rather large, so I don't really care much about the beans. It's funny how nothing else has seeded. I wonder if hermie pollen can be sterile to other plants, but not to itself? Anyone have any scientific insight on this?

Anywho, here's a few pics from the trainwreck on chop day. I still have one AMS going, and from the looks of it, she will only last another day or 2.

Pic 1- Trainwreck stripped of fans
Pic 2- Trainwreck cola
Pic 3- Secondary buds

[superskunk1]

The ladies look beautiful :thumbsup:
I have been wanting to do trainwreck or AMS but have read/seen to many stories of them herming.

But your ladies are making me re-consider purchasing from GHSco

I do have a few from them in veg right now that I would like to flower soon.

When I get the chance to post a log hopefully you can drop by, the setup is very similar but I feel like I need more space. How much space do you have between each lady?


:jointsmile:

[irydyum]

Your observations of AMS and TW are right, they both have a tendency to hermie. All of mine have, fortunately, they appear to be sterile for the most part. I had one TW so bad in the beginning I had to chop it about 3 weeks into flower.

As far as space between each lady, by the end of flower there was about negative 6" between them. I'll put a couple pics here to show you how much they filled my space.

[superskunk1]

Great pictures shows exactly what I was wondering.

I wasn't to sure if they would grow right all bunched up together but they look fine there. The setup has 2 hoods with a 6in inline fan to cool them down, so the temps stay at 78 most of the time. Your ladies look great and you said the temps stay around 84??? Not to sure but I thought high temps slow down growth but this log is making me rethink what I've learned.

I did have another question sorry to clutter up your thread but when did you transplant into 5gal? I have the same square pots but I'm deciding if it's ok to transplant during flowering?

Thanks for sharing

[irydyum]

Temps are something that you learn to deal with if you have to. I'm about to buy 2 air cooled hoods for my lights because I'm fed up with it. They may do even better with cool temps, unfortunately I won't know till next harvest. I'm sure they won't get worse though.

I transplanted them about a week before I switched to 12/12. I noticed crazy growth crazy fast for the first 3 weeks they were in em. The extra root space plus the stretch from flower they looked like they were on plant crack. They didn't really stop growing up until about week 5.

In retrospect my next grow is going to be sea of green again. I just had these seeds and had to start something, so I figured I would give them a try. I have trusted genetics lined up for the next one and it should be a great show.

As far as transplant during flower, everyone has their thoughts. I feel that the extra root space and nutes would outweigh the eventual strangulation of your plants. I have never done it, so I can't speak from experience. However I have never stressed my plants by transplant either. I use all the same soil and I just use an identical container as a form to fill soil around in the larger container. With a nice tight little negative pressed in the new soil, I slide the roots out and they fit like a glove in the new container. I water and they never miss a beat. If I thought it was necessary I wouldn't hesitate to transplant one of mine in flower. Just my :twocents:

[superskunk1]

Sounds good I might just transplant, they show roots at the bottom of the square pots but I also heard that it is a good thing.

If you are investing I'm air-cooled hoods I would make sure they are sealed, like I said I have to and any crack will make it harder to completely remove the heat in each hood. I managed to put a peice of duct tape around the areas that I suspected of having a air crack.

There are many advantages, you can have the lights closer and let the ladies hit the glass and not have to worry about them getting burned.

Thanks again and I hope your next grow goes perfect, a green thumb like yours needs good genetics.

[irydyum]

Finally, at day 68, the remaining AMS has come down along with the other half of the widow. Not a whole lot else to say except for it's empty in here :(

The AMS had a rather large cola on it, and looks to be a pretty good yield. I'll get finals on everything here as soon as we're all dried and jarred.

Pic 1- AMS
Pic 2- AMS Cola
Pic 3- AMS Cola size ref.

[superskunk1]

WOW at Pic #3

I recently posted my log and a couple pics of the ladies, I hope the cola on atleast one of my ladies look like yours.

[warlord98]

Well? How was the church? Did you find it a tricky strain to grow after everything was said and done? And the smoke? Good? So-so? Fill me in I've got mine going O.K. and hope I made the right choice. Yours looked like it was the shit.:thumbsup:

[irydyum]

@Warlord, the Church wasn't tricky at all. Just like every other hearty indica for the most part. I can't remember anything special about it during the grow except the fact that it put on a ton of trichs quickly. It was gooey as soon as it had little budlets on it.

Out of all the strains I grew this time, it's probably the only one I would even consider growing again. All of my others this run had hermie written all over em. Only found 3 beans so far tho, so it isn't as bad as I had thought. The Church was solid though, no signs of hermie at all. It seemed to be the quickest finisher of the bunch too. Wasn't a huge yield from it, but it was really nice smoke.

[headshake]

about the church:

she's a bit finicky as a clone. granted the clones i received had to endure a 35 min car ride home. she rooted slowly and has been throwing stressed leaves since. currently she is throwing single or two-bladed leaves that are over 7" long. again, not saying it's the strain particulary, but i've also had clones of the tw and ams that made the same car trip that rooted faster and didn't show signs of stress. i can update as she continues to grow.


-shake

[warlord98]

:thumbsup:thanks I cant wait for mine to come up. headshake I would be interested to see your church as it goes along.please make a log. thanks again
you guys are more helpful than you know

[firstfist]

That sir, puts new meaning to the phrase "12 pack" :)

[VapedG13]

your shit is lookin killer bro:thumbsup:

[demoreal]

I had some time tonight to read threw the entire thread. It was a great grow. Very interesting thoughts on cutting the leaves off for the flush. I am going to think about that one for a bit and if I come up with some interesting insight I will let you know.
Peace

[irydyum]

Thanks for dropping by Vaped:jointsmile:

Demoreal, if you figure something out, please let me know. I'd love to hear any insight into it.

[demoreal]

I thought about it for a little bit and came to the conclusion that is a good idea to trim the fan leaves during the flush. There is stored mobile nutrients in the fan leaves. Leaving them on would result in the newer growth and leaves close to the flowers to live off these nutrients leaving them with a bad taste. If you cut them off The new growth would not have those nutrients to live off of, It would then start living only off the clean water, leaving the buds with a proper flush. This is a much faster and efficient flush than leaving the leaves on.
Really smart idea you thought up. I will start doing it as well.

[LetsSeeYa]

Wow irydyum i knew that cola was big, but putting it aside the 12 pak just blew my mind. Great job man:thumbsup:

Ya got some mad skills there my man:clap: Do you have any plans as to what you want to grow next grow?

See Ya:rasta:

[demoreal]

or would you leave them on so the plant has food so you can flush longer?

[Shovelhandle]

wicked nice cola! :thumbsup:

[irydyum]

For anyone that's been following my grow along here, i've made some improvements for the next run. New carbon filter, 2 new air cooled hoods, brand new hortilux eye bulbs, and a 150w LED bar. Hoping to see beautiful things under em pretty soon, should have some Sierra Kush clones under the new lights by the end of the week. Here's a few pics. Random shot, the nug, is dried and finally cured Trainwreck from the last run.

Oh yeah, HAPPY 420 CANNACOM FAM!!!! :joint1:

[frostedwonder]

Very nice indeed! A pleasure to watch!