First Grow-Grow Box-CFL's-Mr. Nice Guy and Afghanica

[live2last]

Hello all :clap:, so ive just recently began my first grow and let me tell you, its fuckin awesomeeeee. Anyways let me tell you a bit about the set up.

I lined a cardboard box with mylar then for an exhaust fan i used my friends old xbox360 fan(RRoD took it), and am currently using 3 26w CFL's. You can kind of see the set up in some of the 8th day pictures, and right here...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0129100037-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0129100037-01.jpg)
(its also better sealed to stop light from escaping most of the time)

As for the goodies, i picked up a few clones from a local dispensary; Mr. Nice Guy and Afghanica. Both of them came with roots and took pretty well to the set up. I have them in 8" pots with some FFOF soil and have already began the LST process. I let them settle in for a couple days but then started out and they just kept going :hello:

Alright so to get everyone caught up here we go...

I picked up the clones on 1/18 and i believe the Mr. NG was cloned on 12/20 and the other on 12/24 so its a little behind but its all good :)

ive been keeping up with the pictures so heres the process of it all so far...(ps and sorry all i have is a camera phone for right now)

---Mr. Nice Guy(tall & skinny) is on the left and the Afghanica(bushmaster) is on the right---

First day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0118102211-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0118102211-00.jpg)

2nd day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0120102212-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0120102212-00.jpg)

3rd Day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0121102234-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0121102234-00.jpg)

So on the 5th day i decided to give them a little water....that was a mistake ha. They got a little Droopy and on the Mr. Nice Guy she started to develop some yellow spots on one of the leaves, everything has basically recovered except that so if someone knows whats going on with this i would love to hear :D. There is a close up of it on the top part of the 3rd image from this day.

6th Day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0124102311-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0124102311-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0124100051-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0124100051-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0124102312-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0124102312-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0124102312-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0124102312-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0124102311-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0124102311-01.jpg)

8th day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0126100048-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0126100048-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0126100049-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0126100049-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0126100048-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0126100048-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0126102357-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0126102357-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0126102357-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0126102357-00.jpg)

9th Day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0127102355-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0127102355-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0127102355-02.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0127102355-02.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0127102356-00a.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0127102356-00a.jpg)



11th Day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0129100036-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0129100036-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0129100035-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0129100035-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0129100035-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0129100035-00.jpg)


I raised the Afghanica Up a couple of dvd's because it is only getting on 26w cfl and because it is so damn leafy i dont think its getting the right amount of light.... was this a good idea?

13th Day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0131102235-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0131102235-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0131102235-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0131102235-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0131102233-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0131102233-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0131102233-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0131102233-00.jpg)

I do have a couple quick questions though....

First, on the Mr. nice guy (tall and skinny one), there are alot of droopy leaves towards the bottom but the ones at the top are nice and perky, o and the ones on the bushier one also look to be maybe shriveling a bit could that be to little water, maybe to much? anyways should i be worried about that?

And my next question might even be related to the first, i keep hearing about having the humidity at like 50% but currently mine is only at 20% so could this be the reason they might be lookin a little funky? And if so what would be the best way to fix it for as cheap as possible??

O and lastly, about how much should i be watering them at this point??


Anyways im lovin this new hobby of mine and just want to keep learning so if anyone has any tips or tricks or words of advice i would loveeeee to hear it.

ill keep updating in later posts....NOW LET THE JOURNEY COMMENCE!!! o and happy smoking :rastasmoke:

Any advice would be awesomeeeee :D

[lampost]

Hello all :clap:, so ive just recently began my first grow and let me tell you, its fuckin awesomeeeee. Anyways let me tell you a bit about the set up.

I lined a cardboard box with mylar then for an exhaust fan i used my friends old xbox360 fan(RRoD took it), and am currently using 3 26w CFL's. You can kind of see the set up in some of the 8th day pictures, and right here...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0129100037-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0129100037-01.jpg)
(its also better sealed to stop light from escaping most of the time)

As for the goodies, i picked up a few clones from a local dispensary; Mr. Nice Guy and Afghanica. Both of them came with roots and took pretty well to the set up. I have them in 8" pots with some FFOF soil and have already began the LST process. I let them settle in for a couple days but then started out and they just kept going :hello:

Alright so to get everyone caught up here we go...

I picked up the clones on 1/18 and i believe the Mr. NG was cloned on 12/20 and the other on 12/24 so its a little behind but its all good :)

ive been keeping up with the pictures so heres the process of it all so far...(ps and sorry all i have is a camera phone for right now)

---Mr. Nice Guy(tall & skinny) is on the left and the Afghanica(bushmaster) is on the right---

First day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0118102211-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0118102211-00.jpg)

2nd day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0120102212-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0120102212-00.jpg)

3rd Day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0121102234-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0121102234-00.jpg)

So on the 5th day i decided to give them a little water....that was a mistake ha. They got a little Droopy and on the Mr. Nice Guy she started to develop some yellow spots on one of the leaves, everything has basically recovered except that so if someone knows whats going on with this i would love to hear :D. There is a close up of it on the top part of the 3rd image from this day.

6th Day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0124102311-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0124102311-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0124100051-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0124100051-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0124102312-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0124102312-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0124102312-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0124102312-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0124102311-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0124102311-01.jpg)

8th day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0126100048-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0126100048-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0126100049-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0126100049-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0126100048-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0126100048-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0126102357-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0126102357-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0126102357-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0126102357-00.jpg)

9th Day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0127102355-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0127102355-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0127102355-02.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0127102355-02.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0127102356-00a.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0127102356-00a.jpg)



11th Day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0129100036-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0129100036-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0129100035-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0129100035-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0129100035-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0129100035-00.jpg)


I raised the Afghanica Up a couple of dvd's because it is only getting on 26w cfl and because it is so damn leafy i dont think its getting the right amount of light.... was this a good idea?

13th Day:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0131102235-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0131102235-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0131102235-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0131102235-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0131102233-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0131102233-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0131102233-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0131102233-00.jpg)

I do have a couple quick questions though....

First, on the Mr. nice guy (tall and skinny one), there are alot of droopy leaves towards the bottom but the ones at the top are nice and perky, o and the ones on the bushier one also look to be maybe shriveling a bit could that be to little water, maybe to much? anyways should i be worried about that?

And my next question might even be related to the first, i keep hearing about having the humidity at like 50% but currently mine is only at 20% so could this be the reason they might be lookin a little funky? And if so what would be the best way to fix it for as cheap as possible??

O and lastly, about how much should i be watering them at this point??


Anyways im lovin this new hobby of mine and just want to keep learning so if anyone has any tips or tricks or words of advice i would loveeeee to hear it.

ill keep updating in later posts....NOW LET THE JOURNEY COMMENCE!!! o and happy smoking :rastasmoke:

Any advice would be awesomeeeee :D

The humidity will be fine. The plants will take in any extra water they need through the roots. This is what I've been told. Plenty of people grow in an arid/semi-arid climate with excellent results. The low humidity will be great for flowering and will eliminate problems with mold/fungus...

Get a cheap water meter from any hardware store garden section. You can find them for like $7. It's invaluable for a beginner... until you get to know how the plants grow better.

[live2last]

thanks for such a fast rely, it did some good reassuring haha. anyways i was curious about this water meter you mentioned....whats the main purpose of the meter? does it measure the amount of water in the soil, or the ph of one or the other or what??

[live2last]

So alot has happened since i last updated this thing, what just happened well let me tell you. I took this 'half a cup of water every other day' advice that i got from a guy at GC and that turned into a watering disaster, one of my plants died, the Mr. Nice Guy, RIP. But the Afghanica came back to life with a good watering so it wasnt a complete loss. Let me know if there is anything i could do to kick start this guy, should i start using the foxfarm nutes? i was planning on it but my god damn financial aid hasnt come in so ive had to hault my plans for a little bit.

Anyways leave me some comments on what i should be doing

p.s.- with the new funds coming in im gonna go pick up another clone and make a rubbermaid set up which seems alot more reliable.

thanks yall

[live2last]

I think im finally starting to get the hang of this thing :thumbsup: After i figured out how to water it, things really started turning around. I watched this video called SeeMore Buds and in the cfl section he has this great watering tip and i tried it, and it worked great. The amazing rule was this...Water 1/3 the volume of the pot your using, then once it gets dry you just do it again, im sure once it gets bigger youll be watering it more often but this seems like a pretty legit way to do it, am i right?? Anyways heres a few picture of the recoveree

and as always leave me any advice or comments or whatever, peaceee :hippy:

[live2last]

So the plant is really doin great, i also picked her up a few presents today. Im gonna transplant her into a 3 gallon pot and start her off with some brand new FF Grow Big. I was thinkin 1/4 teaspoon in a gallon of water to start things off... does that sound like a good way to start her off in her new home? Also i tied down my first side branch so im thinkin by transplant time we're gonna be in even better shape. My only concerns are that some of the leaves are still a little droopy and are starting to turn a lighter shade of green. im gonna do some research but if you want to look at the picture and give me your opinion that would be great:thumbsup:

[live2last]

So i finally did it, i got the funds in and was able to get her a 3 gallon pot and some FF Grow Big, gave her 1/4 teaspoon in a gallon of water. I changed the lights around. now i just have 3 27w 6500k CFL's and a lower one that i had lyin around. I also made a couple refelctors, out of some rolling rock cans, yea in cans... i didnt believe it at first either haha. Then i raised it back up pretty close to the lights, so we shall see how she takes to all of these new changes.

And if you have any comments or advice or anything pleaseeeeeee share with me

peace yalll:hippy:

[lampost]

thanks for such a fast rely, it did some good reassuring haha. anyways i was curious about this water meter you mentioned....whats the main purpose of the meter? does it measure the amount of water in the soil, or the ph of one or the other or what??

Hey, sorry I didn't see this question. Yeah, it's just a moisture probe. It looks like a long thin metal tube with a little meter attached to the end with a needle that points to DRY, MOIST, or WET...

It's really helpful in getting the feel for things when you start out. You can get 'em at Ace, Home Depot, probably Wallyworld. Just go to the garden section and ask for a moisture probe or something.

[cigarettes42]

you transplanted wayy to early. you are at high risk of root rot. dont water like you you have been 1/3 of the pot size. your roots arnt even developed enough to reach that deep bottom yet and when you give that 3 gallon pot water most of it is going to be a mucky mess in the bottom. causing rot and nappy shit. since you already transplanted it only give it a few cups of water untill you have established a good root system and the way to check that out is to tip it upsidedown and lift off the pot to see if there are any roots. oh and hey dont waste your money on those metal moister probes. they will not measure any kind of soils ph accurately. as for checking the moister content of the plant, it is easy as lifting a pot of dirt and feeling if its heavy or light(like the day you put fresh dirt in). pretty simple huh?

[lampost]

I think im finally starting to get the hang of this thing :thumbsup: After i figured out how to water it, things really started turning around. I watched this video called SeeMore Buds and in the cfl section he has this great watering tip and i tried it, and it worked great. The amazing rule was this...Water 1/3 the volume of the pot your using, then once it gets dry you just do it again, im sure once it gets bigger youll be watering it more often but this seems like a pretty legit way to do it, am i right?? Anyways heres a few picture of the recoveree

and as always leave me any advice or comments or whatever, peaceee :hippy:

That seems like a lot of water to me, especially if you're using CFLs. For reference, I water with about 0.5 - 0.75 gallons and I'm in a 5 gallon container. That is 1/10th the volume of water... not 1/3!

Get the water meter and it'll help you gauge when to water so you aren't just shooting in the dark. It looks to me like you still may have some watering stress! I'm not sure what growth looks like under CFLs though..

Also, it looks to me like you maybe transplanted too soon. I couldn't really judge the size of your original containers in the pictures... but that plant now looks extremely small in that large pot. This might make it a bit more difficult to water correctly since the roots haven't filled the pot and you'll have wet spots. Hopefully, someone else will chime in. I don't think you'll want to fully saturate the pot every watering at this point. I probably stop watering before you get runoff... and then water to runoff maybe every 2nd or 3rd watering until it grows into the pot?

Hope this helps. I'm not extremely experienced but that's what I've seen work.

[cigarettes42]

with that big ass pot i wouldnt let it run-off for a while. your going to get some wonky ph readings. check out my mothers, they are in half gallon pots! but of course if they went into flowering then a transplant is needed.

[live2last]

Alright first off thanks for the support guys haha. Anyways heres my justification for doing things this way... The plant is over a month and a half old for 1. for 2, its just a bushy ass plant, it looks small but theres alot jammed in there, i have it tied down like 5-6 times. And 3, I watched the second video of the See More Buds series where they have the 6 gardeners and shit, seems pretty legit. The guy plants a clone with baby ass roots into a 3 gallon and does basically what i did and said that you want to saturate the soil to give the roots a reason to go to the bottom, if your just doing a couple cups a day then they wouldnt go down very far. It seems a little ridiculous but this guy got some results so hopefully this works and if not then hopefully we still have something to work with haha. Anyways thanks for the help guys, ill keep you updated :thumbsup:

o and btw i do infact have a moisture/ph meter comin in the mail, should be here in the next few days i hope :wtf:

[lampost]

Damn, 1.5 months! How tall is that plant?

My plants are also 1.5 months and they're like 2-3 ft tall and growing beautiful buds.

I would say start over and get an HID light. You can have another clone that size in about 1 week and then you'll eliminate these problems. You'd actually be further along in a few weeks.

[live2last]

yea im kinda disappointed as well but im learnin slowly haha. The plant with everything tied down is like 6 inches or so tall with everything tied down. I'll probably take a clone from this guy in a little bit and then we'll push forward. Anyways i got my moisture meter in the mail so we'll see how that helps in the fext few days. And again thanks for all your help guys

[lampost]

Yeah, it'll be good experience for sure!

The growth rate just seems really slow for it to be worth your time and effort. I'm not a fan of fluorescents/CFLs really, but I guess they do have their place. Is an HID light totally out of the question for you right now? Even if you could get like a 250 or 400W, I think you'd be astonished at the difference in growth rate.

[live2last]

I havent really looked to much into them....could you give me some insight as to how much they are and how the set up process goes?? And i think the growth process has been slacking cuz i didnt really have a good watering schedule for them which is why i think i lost the previous one and this one got like a stunted growth or something.

thanks a bunch!

[lampost]

Sure, check out some good hydroponic/garden centers online. There are several. I like HTG Supply. Check them out... just google and you'll find them.

HTG has a 250W or a 400W for about $120. That's a pretty good deal. With a 250W light you could probably yield 3-4oz if you got your watering down ;) And it will take you less time than CFLs and probably be higher quality. You can even get a 175W if that's too much for you, but I think it's better to go bigger if you can... you may want to expand in the future.

Do you know about lighting at all? Check some of the FAQs on here. Most use either High-pressure sodium (HPS) or Metal Halide (MH) HID lighting. MH is good for veg, whereas HPS is better for flowering. I've seen great success for people who use HPS all the way through! So, either get an HPS or get an HPS/MH convertible ballast (which is $50 more and you'll also need a second bulb).

With an HID you'll get more heat since you'll be running more wattage... so you'll also have to think about ventilation and cooling. Just a strong fan blowing between the lights and the plants would probably do it when you're talking a 250W.

Good luck! Read the lighting FAQs. You know if you have the scratch you could just go pick up an HPS and put that over your existing plant and watch things pick up.

Also, as far as watering goes throw the schedules out the window! The plants water needs are quickly changing as it grows so as soon as one watering schedule seems routine... the plant has grown enough to require more. The best thing you can do it use your moisture meter and learn how a dry/moist/wet pot feels. It is going to be difficult to keep ideal waterings until the plant grows into that pot.... which may be awhile unless you upgrade to the HIDs.

[live2last]

Yea ive mostly just researched the CFL route cuz i'm on a budget but ill definately be putting this moisture meter to work. Ill keep posting updates as they come, and who knows maybe ill come out on top :thumbsup:


And again thanks for the help :rastasmoke:

[live2last]

Well, alot has happened since the transplant...alot of good things that is :thumbsup: The whole plant looks healthier, its muchh bigger, and theres new growth everywhereeee So check out the progress...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0303102240-03.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0303102240-03.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0303102240-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0303102240-00.jpg)

And then in the next pictures you might just notice my brand spankin new grow box :D
They had a bomb sale at home depot for rubbermaids for like 4 bucks a piece so i grabbed two 18 gal's and some more CFL's for under 10 bucks I then purchased a 120 mm fan for another ten but this thing is sickkk. So here are some pictures of the new set up, we call it the hulk, im sure you can figure out why

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0303102343-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0303102343-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0303102343-01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0303102343-01.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0303102344-00.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0303102344-00.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/th_0303102344-02.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v354/xfarfromnowherex/grw/?action=view&current=0303102344-02.jpg)

So i'd say overall things are looking spectacularrrr. I was pondering on upping the nutes for the next watering, up to a half a tsp. Would that be cool or should i wait?, I'm not seeing any nute burn and it will probably be atleast a week in between waterings if not more(i can now tell with my fancy new 6 dollar moisture/ph meter :D).

Anywayssss let me hear your thoughts and opinions, im all ears

[live2last]

the thumbnails suck so here's bigger ones, in the same order:thumbsup:

[cigarettes42]

With a 250W light you could probably yield 3-4oz if you got your watering down ;)

whoa those must be magical beans to get 3-4 oz with a 250 watter

[lampost]

Not even half a gram per watt. If you're LST'ing plants you think that's unreasonable?

[live2last]

Quick update.... So i gave her another gallon but this time with half a tsp of Grow big(twice as much as the last time), like 2 days ago and she's already showin even more progress. Here's a couple shots of her over the past 2-3 days or so:

Comments or opinions or questions or whatever are always welcomee


peaceeeeee

[LetsSeeYa]

If i were you id only water when the plant needs it. Water it when the pot is light. Let the plant get dry sometime, i think you will find that your plant grows faster. Iv found that mine grow better when they are dry from time to time, but this is what worked for me. I think that more people over water then under water. People want to over love there plants.

Good luck:rasta:

[live2last]

Here's another little update, things are lookin great :D

I was also planning on switchin her into flowering here within the next couple days, also i was gonna take a clipping so i get another one going. I had a few questions concerning the two. One would be, can i take a clone and then switch her into flowering pretty much right away or should i let her heal up a bit before hand? And also, im gonna have to water within the next couple days, should i just start the blooming nutes then or wait a little bit into the cycle to do that?

And any other advice or words of wisdom pertaining to the siwtching into flowering process would be greattt:thumbsup:



peace yalll:hippy:

[live2last]

So i just took two clones from her and i bought 4 soft white 100w cfl's(equivalent) and the only thing holding me back from switching to flowering is the nutrient situation...what kind of nutes should i use and when should i use them? Im fine with sticking with FF but if i could get something cheaper that would be great. And do you need the two, big bloom and tiger bloom? or does one just do something better or what?


Any advice would be great, i wanna get her flowerin ASAP!!!:thumbsup:

[Brainy]

You Are going to want to flush the grow nutrients, (higher in n than p or k) before you choose to flower her. The extra nitrogen can slow the flowering. The Big bloom is essentially the organics, micro and macronutrients. The tiger bloom is the main flower formula. GH has a simple but good 3 part system. Keep at it.

[live2last]

So are both of them essential or would i be able to skate by with one or the other???

[psychodelic]

whoa those must be magical beans to get 3-4 oz with a 250 watter

Maybe you need more experience...

[Brainy]

I am running aeroponics now but i would use them both in soil. I just use the tiger bloom in aero. Go light till you get used to them.

[IndyRocKStar76]

THE SETUP: DWC/Aeroponic hybrid system w/ 5 in pots (8 plants), 400w hps/hallide conversion light on adjustable light hangers, and I'm growing ice strain feminized from holland. Using botanicare CNS17 premium nutes, with Bontanicare Karma (catalyst, enzymes, beneficials) I have two 5" circular airstones being pushed by a 2800cc air pump, and 180 gpm water pump. Using Sure To Grow (STG) grow 1.5" cubes and Hydroton. Grow room is 4x5x8 (20 square feet or 2 sq meters.) Room is a walk in closet w/ a standard swing door. I sealed the sides and top for seepage. Room is completely lined with Mylar (2mm) on all walls and ceiling. Floor is carpented lined with tempered glass on top. Using Alen airpurifier, and a humidifier or dehumidifier if needed. 20" box fan for circulation.
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I see time after time on these sites that people never give the details of their setup and then get asked over and over what they are using in order to answer their question(s). So I don't think I left out anything.
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Anyway, the questions are....
How many plants do you think I can grow in this room with the 400w hps? Do I need an additional lights for another 8 or 12 plants in the confined space? How much does the mylar assist in reflecting light to the lower branches once the plants beging to grow higher? (I plan to veg to 24"-36" before flowering) I'd like to expect 2lbs from each 8 plant DWC/Aeroponic set up; is this unreasonable? (ICE strain is a Northern lights/Afghan cross est 550-650 g/m2)
Also considering using a 2x5x8 (10 sq ft) porch closet as an auxillary grow room. Will one 400hps/hallide conversion be enough for this confined space w/ 8-12 plants? How much will aspiration per plant raise the humidity at 75F?

I'm not new to growing, but new to cannabis. I'm growing for sale. Thanks for you advice.

If I forgot something then let me know. thanks agian.

Indy

[live2last]

THE SETUP: DWC/Aeroponic hybrid system w/ 5 in pots (8 plants), 400w hps/hallide conversion light on adjustable light hangers, and I'm growing ice strain feminized from holland. Using botanicare CNS17 premium nutes, with Bontanicare Karma (catalyst, enzymes, beneficials) I have two 5" circular airstones being pushed by a 2800cc air pump, and 180 gpm water pump. Using Sure To Grow (STG) grow 1.5" cubes and Hydroton. Grow room is 4x5x8 (20 square feet or 2 sq meters.) Room is a walk in closet w/ a standard swing door. I sealed the sides and top for seepage. Room is completely lined with Mylar (2mm) on all walls and ceiling. Floor is carpented lined with tempered glass on top. Using Alen airpurifier, and a humidifier or dehumidifier if needed. 20" box fan for circulation.
---
I see time after time on these sites that people never give the details of their setup and then get asked over and over what they are using in order to answer their question(s). So I don't think I left out anything.
-
Anyway, the questions are....
How many plants do you think I can grow in this room with the 400w hps? Do I need an additional lights for another 8 or 12 plants in the confined space? How much does the mylar assist in reflecting light to the lower branches once the plants beging to grow higher? (I plan to veg to 24"-36" before flowering) I'd like to expect 2lbs from each 8 plant DWC/Aeroponic set up; is this unreasonable? (ICE strain is a Northern lights/Afghan cross est 550-650 g/m2)
Also considering using a 2x5x8 (10 sq ft) porch closet as an auxillary grow room. Will one 400hps/hallide conversion be enough for this confined space w/ 8-12 plants? How much will aspiration per plant raise the humidity at 75F?

I'm not new to growing, but new to cannabis. I'm growing for sale. Thanks for you advice.

If I forgot something then let me know. thanks agian.

Indy



hey mr. rockstar....no offense but you should get your own thread, k thanks.

[IndyRocKStar76]

hey mr. rockstar....no offense but you should get your own thread, k thanks.

sorry dude...new to bulletin boards. I moved it. Is there a way to delete the post?

[live2last]

not unless you talk to a mod or something, its all good though man im still learnin how this shit works myself

:hippy:

[live2last]

So today i bit the bullet and switched her into flowering:thumbsup::thumbsup: I went and picked up some tiger bloom to start things off and then once more funds come in ill be given her some big bloom as well. I am also in the process of making a mini box for the clones i took to see if i can't get two boxes going

pictures soon to comeeee

peace yall:hippy:


o and does anyone happen to know how to change the name of this thread?? i cant seem to figure it out :wtf: haha

[live2last]

The flowering stage has been going for a few days now and i can already see a difference :D


Ive got a few questions thought....

First on is that there are alot of leaves that dont seem to be getting any light and not really having a purpose so should i prune them or just let them chill and if they fall off then they fall off. I'd like to clean it up a bit cuz theres just a mess of leaves.... not that thats necessarily a bad thing

Anyways leave me some feedback and shit:rastasmoke:

[Brainy]

Lookn good. Keep the leaves. Nice and green. Just fold the bigger fans under the growing tips. Keep the tips exposed to keep all of the branches growing evenly. The leaves are where the plants produce chlorophyl and store sugars. Keep it up!

[live2last]

Thanks man will do.

So it turns out my timer doesnt work :mad::mad: So im gonna manually do it until i figure something out.

does anyone know of a good but cheap timer that works???

thanksss:rastasmoke:

[Brainy]

I am using intermatic 15 amp manual timers. Both the 110 and 240 volt seem 2 be workin fine. Anyone else?

[live2last]

I found a timer at walmart again, i should have just sprung for the 8 dollar one the first time haha. Either way it works and im thinkin im gonna try and return the old one because walmart needs to be knocked down a notch haha:thumbsup:

Anyways, things are lookin great. She grew up into the light a little bit and burned a few leaves but i tied it down so hopefully it wont happen for another while but we shall see...

And also the clones i took 11 days ago still havent rooted :/ they're still green but no roots. I dont have a heating mat so does that mean they wont root or will it just take longer??


Thanks and let me know what you think :hippy:

(ps thanks for the timer help anyways brainy)

[Brainy]

Lookin sweet. And if you did want to prune any thing the bottom third is the target.But just in the first two weeks of flower or earlier. Better air flow and promotes the growth into bigger top colas. How did you clone? From where on the plant? Rockwool works well when using soil or soilless mixes. I use an aero cloner I made. 9 days max for roots. Much higher percentage of success.

[live2last]

For the cloning i just took two clippings off some bottom branches that seem to not have much of a purpose. And an aero cloner would be great but i only have room for 2 plants max...for now atleast. But i used some rooting hormone that was a powder... its just what i had at the time. I also just got them in some peat pellets(funds are pretty low haha).

If these don't throw some roots out within the next couple days i think im just gonna scrap em and try to take a "super-clone" or two cuz i hear those are much more exciting haha. I was also gonna go pick up some gel for this round as well.

thanks for the help:thumbsup:

[live2last]

Things are goin pretty good, she's grown up into the lights a few times but other then that i think things are going pretty smooth. I wired the fan that was blowing on her to up in the top corner of the box so there'd be more room in there, ill get some pics of that up soon. But here's some of the progress.

peaceeee:jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

Looks like your plant will be due for a re pot soon. Just wanted to throw that out before you flower her.

Keep er green:rasta:

[live2last]

Well i would but she's already in flowering and tied down in quite a few places, i've also heard that a 3 gallon pot should suffice for the full flowering stage...hmmm

[lampost]

You're fine in the 3 gal. You're using CFLs right? It would be more of a concern if you had high-intensity lighting.

[live2last]

yea just CFL's for me. Thanks for the reassurance haha :thumbsup:

[crf70rider]

looking good flowers take forever to resin up under cfls but other then that no complants used as many as possible!

[live2last]

Well, we're startin to get some results :D Its been about 2 weeks or so and you can see the start of some buds with alot of white hairs :thumbsup: So here's some pics, one of them of the stem, the picture quality is shit but i just took it to try and show that its probably like 3/4 inch thick! i thought that was pretty sweet haha. Anyways im almost out of room so i was thinkin i would go get another rubbermaid and thrwo that on the bottom, cut holes in that and the bottom of the current box so i could then sink the pot its in so i'd get another foot of room or so...atleast.

let me know what you think :thumbsup:

[live2last]

So here's a few pictures of the progress... She keeps getting a little to close to the lights and with the rubbermaid box thats one thing i dont like. But i was thinkin about puttin a little window so i could check it out without taking the whole thing off. I would make it so i could seal all light out and keep all light in when it wouldnt be in use. Who knows...

Anyways let me know if you have any questions or comments:thumbsup:

[StickyBuds1987]

nice plants man i wish i could grow a couple plants indoors so ican have some good bud while im waiting on my ones to finish outside cant afford the stuff to do it with

[live2last]

If you plan it out right you could probably get all of it for about 70-80 dollars. I might have spent a little more then i needed to on a few things but i figure that if i even get a half ounce ive more then broke even and i will have the materials for times to come. The one thing i under estimated was the nutes...They are expensiveeee, but i cant deny the results, fox farm is the shit! And i will have left over nutes for quite a bit longer so it should all work out in the end :thumbsup:

[live2last]

So i gave her a gallon of plain water two waterings ago and she seemed to like it, no drastic changes or anything but then the last time i watered i upped the tiger bloom up to 2 tsp's which is the most ive given her and she seemed to loveeeee it:thumbsup:. I also took a few more clones, trying a few things different so we shall see if this goes through. I have made a stealth micro box that im hoping to lay a scrog down in. Its only 14 inches tall but i could spread it out a good bunch and then id basically flower right off the bat. Im pretty excited to get this started, ill probably make it its own thread so keep an eye out ;)

So heres a few pics, i know the quality is pretty horrible but i tried to adjust them as much as possible because the lighting wasnt good where i took them. also i will start taking them with a real camera here shortly haha

let me know what you think :thumbsup:

O and did anyone happen to catch the nuggets v lakers game??? We took em out at the knees :D

[live2last]

Alright here's some good quality pics, they make me all warm inside haha :jointsmile:

26 days flowering...

[live2last]

So heres another pic update for you all, not to much has changed. I gave her her first full on nute today(2 tbsp of Big Bloom and 2 tsp of tigerbloom) Im anxious to see how she takes it :thumbsup: Anyways, im startin to see tricomes on her and the smell is starting to pick up, nothing to bad though :)

Let me know what you guys think :rastasmoke:

30 days flowering.....

[bigtopsfinn]

Beauty :thumbsup:

[live2last]

So overall, things are goin pretty good if my assumptions have been right. The buds are looking excellent and the tricomes are starting to turn a little more amber

35 days flowering...


I do have a few questions though...

The first one is that there seem to be alot of the lower leaves are just dying off and their color isnt as dark as the top stuff, im hoping its just cuz of the light not getting all the way down there...is it? And on a few leaves there is a little browing which i checked out and it seemed to be a phosphorous defficiency? Does that sound right? The last picture is of some of the miscolored ones...


Secondly, i was wondering when i could start adding some molasses or brown sugar to the mix??

Thanks for the help guys

O AND.....HAPPY 420!!!:rastasmoke::jointsmile::thumbsup::hippy::ra stasmoke::pimp::stoned::smokin::smokebong::bonghit ::S5::bigsmoke::S5::rastasmoke::clap:

[live2last]

Alright well im almost to 6 weeks so im thinkin next watering will be with molasses:D

should i just clear out all of the little buds on the stems of the big buds that dont seem to be getting any light??

Anyways here are a couple pictures, let me know what you all think:thumbsup:

40 days flowering....

[SmurfyBH]

Shit looks to be going good. I hope my two plants do good as yours.

[live2last]

So she ended up drinking her water a little faster then usual and dried up a bit, i watered her with the last round of nutes and this is her a day later, the buds still look good but some of the leaves just got pretty crispy, and not burned crispy. Im thinkin it might have got a little to hot in there or somethin, but im gonna start the flushin process next watering:thumbsup:

day 43 flowering...

[live2last]

Things are going smooth minus the fan inside the box freakin out and now it just makes a wierd noise but i dont think it was really doin that much good now anyway, ill keep an eye on the temp though. Water consumption has now slowed down a little bit but buds are still lookin purty I finally busted out the good camera so you guys could check em out :thumbsup:

day 53 flowering...i think??:jointsmile:

Let me know what you think :hippy:

[live2last]

come on cannabis.com you guys be breakin my ballss:wtf:

me want feedback haha:rasta:

[smokealot123]

what was your harvest wow nice job !:jointsmile:

[live2last]

I'm thinkin sunday will be the chop date, i dont think im gonna get as much as i was hopin for but what is there is lookin bombbbb:rastasmoke:

[demoreal]

Really nice job, especially with cfl's. Are you in the planning of your next grow?

[live2last]

oooo yea :thumbsup: im gonna take a stab at a hydro dwc grow with a scrog. i should be getting a clone for that in the next week or so and then ill start its own thread, keep an eye out for it :pimp:

[live2last]

Well its alllll over, shes been harvested :D I dont think i will reach an ounce but i have learned a ton and have all the stuff for the next grow which should be getting under way here real soon :thumbsup: Thanks for all the help guys, i dont think i could have made it to the end without all the help haha:pimp:

Anyways let me know what you think:D

day 59 flowering...HARVESTED!!!!:rastasmoke:

[Charbud]

yo live2last, only just seen your thread, real nice grow man. Did you only use the 3cfls from start to finish ? Im also cfl grower btw :) dry harvest ? real nice plants !!!

[live2last]

i used 4 100w equivalent bulbs for both stages but i wish i found another way to get a few more lights in there, i think that coulda helped a bit. I dont have a dry wieght yet but i should know in a week or so :thumbsup:

[live2last]

So its been curing for about two weeks now and im pretty pleased with the over all result. I'd say it turned out to be a little more then a half ounce though i was never able to get my hands on a scale for an official weigh in :/ I learned a ton from you guys and i dedicate this current bowl to you guys The smoke is awesome, its like couch lock madness though i have been able to play a few games of roller hockey on it and done just fine but for the most part you just want to sit there haha:rasta: Ive been saving all the big nugs to finish the whole cure but ive been pickin off the scraps and i must say not paying for weed is probably the best thing ever:rastasmoke:

thanks a bunch guys!!!!!


im gonna set up my new thread here in the next couple days so please come and join me for the next part of the journey

and heres the only picture i have of the full crop all pruned and what not

[Bluelightnin]

Good thread and nice grow! im workin on my first plants hopefully they turn out as good lookin as yours :)

[live2last]

Thanks for the words man, i hope yours turns out great:thumbsup:

Everyone should come check out my new grow that is in process, i changed up quite a bit :D

heres the link http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/186242-my-second-rubbermaid-grow-cfls-dwc-scrog.html#post2113926

:rastasmoke:

[dopet4h2c0]

great grow man:thumbsup: