McTokers' 3rd Grow ~ Hempy Buckets

[McToker]

Hi all. The Mrs. and I have been absent for a while due to poor health. But, we're back at it again. We finally got the new grow room done. It's roughly 12 x 6 feet. It's all 2x6 walls, heavily insulated and sheetrocked. We even installed an insulated steel door. The interior walls are flat white. Heck, we even painted the concrete floor white. We haven't installed the wall A/C unit yet because we won't be needing it for a while.

We put in a 4 foot long workbench with an overhead framework to support the CFL lights (Frankenlight). We'll use one end of the workbench for a vegging area, at least for the time being. We'll also continue to use the Homebox tent as a flowering area.

3 days ago we started 4 Wrecked Homicide beans, 2 Blue Apollos and 1 AK-47. So far, 3 WH's have popped along with 2 BA's.

We're gonna go with hempy buckets again but we went up to a 5 quart bucket. We went looking for 1 gallon buckets but they were out of them. These should work out well as they won't need painting or to be wrapped in duct tape. They're not translucent.

Our main goal is to get a good WH mom and a BA mom that we can clone from. Cloning is new to us but sure seems like the way to go. Yup, lots more homework to do.:D

We're also going to experiment with keeping all the odor control inside the room. Right now we're hoping that our existing vortex fan and filter running on the tent, inside the room, will take care of the whole room. If it doesn't, we'll add a second tent for vegging and let the fan pull air from both tents through a "Y" fitting.

[McToker]

In case Horsemanrocks tunes in, here are the pics that I couldn't post in the other thread. Still trying to convert this 220 outlet to 2 110 outlets.

[killa12345]

Glad to have you back around Mctoker....Hope you are doing well health wise....anything i can do to lend a hand....feel free to ask bro! Good lUck and congrats on the new room! cant wait to see it go to work for ya! :thumbsup:

[McToker]

Thanks killa. It's nice not having the tent in the middle of our bathroom or bedroom. Drops the worry meter down several notches too.

Health is much better. No more surgeries until this summer.:thumbsup: We should have a crop in by then.

[McToker]

Of the 7 beans we started, all but 1 popped.

Went to Wally World today and picked the goodies to build a cloner. We're using the design from MVP's sticky on cloninging the Basic section. Got most of it built today and will finish it off tomorrow. A BIG THANKS to MVP for his thread and great pics. It made the project real easy.:thumbsup: We can't wait to try it out. First use will be to clone to determine sex.

Still waiting on UPS to bring more goodies to finish off the grow room. We ordered some panda to isolate the veg and cloning areas, the electrical adapters we were after and a portable A/C unit. We'll get some pics up when it's a bit more complete.

It's starting to feel a bit like it's my secret laboratory.:D

Oh yea, Headshake, 2 of the WH's are looking like they may be getting the rounded leaves like you got on some of yours.

[McToker]

The first pic is the start of our new set up. We'll use panda over the bench area to contain the light.

In the second pic the top row are all Wrecked Homicide. On the bottom row, from left to right, are 2 Blue Apollo and 1 AK-47.

[killa12345]

man mctoker....

You said you were busy! THe room looks great.....everything is nice and clean.....Well Organized.....It should be a pleasure to work in that new space! Well i cant wait till the show begins....pulling up a chair!:thumbsup:

[Shovelhandle]

Nice to see you're back, McToker :hippy:

[McToker]

Thanks y'all.

Finished up the cloner today and the first seedling went into its bucket (one of the BA's).

[jakester]

Looks great! How many liters is that container?

[McToker]

Thanks. Not sure on the liters. It's two 15 quart containers. One for the tub and one for the dome.

[tokr2153]

good to see that everything's well ill b popping in from time to time whats the origins of that WH

[McToker]

I believe it is Purple Kush x Purple Rhino. I still get a bit confused by all the cross breeding business but the results sure look impressive. For more details check out Killa's log at http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/170048-killas-back-bigger-better-oh-yeah-purple.html .

[McToker]

Ooops!!!

Accidently dropped WH #3 during its move to the bucket. It bent right where the stem meets the soil. Went ahead and put it in the bucket with a stake to prop it up.

Now, the only one awaiting a bucket is the AK.

No nutes yet, just R/O water with CalMag added.

[McToker]

Even though we were only running a few bulbs in Frankenlight, heat was becoming an issue. So, we pulled Frankenlight out and put in some flouros. It's just 2 four-foot shop lights with Cool White 40 watt bulbs.

Yes, we have an A/C unit on the way but we're trying to get heat issues to a minimum before we add the HPS light in the flowering tent.

The experimenting continues.;) Guess I'm going to have to search for a "Mad Scientist" emoticon.:D

P.S. That WH that I dropped seems to be doing real well. In fact, it's the best looking of the WH's. Must be the hardy Kush genes in its background.:thumbsup:

[McToker]

With only the 4 foot flouros running, temps have stabilized staying about 77-78 during the day and dropping to 74 at night. All 6 sprouts are in their buckets now and all the wood spacers are gone.

The WH I dropped is doing well and standing on its own for the second day. The support stick was removed today.

Second pick is the WH I dropped.

Third pic is one of the BA's. Both of them are doing well.

[McToker]

The portable A/C unit showed up today. We were expecting "a little bit" of negative pressure as the unit vents hot air to the outdoors. It's more than "a little bit" of negative pressure. With the unit turned on it is quite difficult to get the door open. But, we had anticipated this and had a plan. The plan is to cut a 6 inch round hole through the far wall and silicone in a piece of PVC pipe. On the outside, we'll cap off the vent with an aftermarket automotive air cleaner/filter. It will be protected from the weather as that wall is inside our shop.

If this portable A/C unit doesn't work out for the "room" we'll move on to Plan B. Plan B is to put in a wall mounted A/C unit and utilize the portable unit in the kitchen during the summer as it is always a hot spot on summer afternoons.

So, the experiment continues.;)

Before you ask, yes, there is a Plan C. Plan C is to air condition the entire shop (600 square feet) then have passive intakes on the "room" and and run an active exhaust. Fortunately, the entire shop is insulated very well.

[LOC NAR on probation]

In case Horsemanrocks tunes in, here are the pics that I couldn't post in the other thread. Still trying to convert this 220 outlet to 2 110 outlets.

Every things looking good. Didn't know if you got the electric fixed.

You can split the 220 but what you have there is two hot wires and a ground. Your missing a neutral wire. Yes a neutral is the same as ground. That being said, one hot wire to each plug and split the ground to go to each plug. I would hook the ground to the neutral and ground on each plug..

To make it easier wire nut some 12/2 to the 10/2 wire in the box. If you use a double rec. Then you can split it top and bottom by just braking off the tabs on the sides to seperate them.

Hope it helps Been an electrian for over 20 years.

[cronicmonster]

Every things looking good. Didn't know if you got the electric fixed.

You can split the 220 but what you have there is two hot wires and a ground. Your missing a neutral wire. Yes a neutral is the same as ground. That being said, one hot wire to each plug and split the ground to go to each plug. I would hook the ground to the neutral and ground on each plug..

To make it easier wire nut some 12/2 to the 10/2 wire in the box. If you use a double rec. Then you can split it top and bottom by just braking off the tabs on the sides to seperate them.

Hope it helps Been an electrian for over 20 years.

This kind of responce is what makes this site so cool! Right on LOC-NAR !!!

[McToker]

LOC NAR ~ I really appreciate your advice but I gotta tell you I'm still a bit spooked about doing it myself. At the moment I have enough power in the room as we haven't needed to power up the flowering tent, yet. I've added up the total amps that each device uses and we're within the limit but it will be close. After all I've read I think I'll be more comfortable if I just bring in an electrician, like yourself. Fortunately, the outlet is just outside the "room" so security is not an issue.

Thanks,

McT

[Shovelhandle]

Mac, have you done anything about that outlet yet? I could offer a suggestion or two depending on how much lighting you plan to run plus what other devices will be used. Also, how many times and would you like to use relays so that your timers last a long time?

SHov

[McToker]

Mac, have you done anything about that outlet yet? I could offer a suggestion or two depending on how much lighting you plan to run plus what other devices will be used. Also, how many times and would you like to use relays so that your timers last a long time?

SHov

Nope. I haven't called an electrician yet. We're always open to advice and suggestions.

[headshake]

you most definitely know i'm tuned in for the show MC's! i hope all is well around y'alls way (minus the possibly rounding leaves of the WHs, of course!).

i've got to procure some 1 gallon buckets and then hempy's are getting some space in the tent, ya!


-shake

[McToker]

Welcome aboard Shake.

Before going shopping yesterday, I re-read Rhizome's guide to setting up a grow room. I was concerned that my "auto air cleaner" idea might not let enough air in.

Since our "room" is more like a grow room within a grow room I decided it would be best to treat the issue as a passive intake. Although I have no idea how much CFM the 5 inch exhaust from the A/C is flowing I figured that the 5 to 6 inch neck of the auto air cleaner could be too restrictive.

I ended up getting two 12 x 14 ventilation grills. We'll cut out an 11 x 13 hole through the wall and mount a grill on each side. I also picked up a "cut to size" washable air filter. It's enough to make a filter to back each grill. This vent will open into our shop and we're hoping that light leaking out won't be too much of an issue. If it is, we'll come up with something to deal with it.

Kudos to Killa, again. His tip on more frequent calibration of our PH pen was right on. A large bottle of calibration fluid showed up a couple days ago. We hadn't calibrated our pen since we bought it for our last grow. WOW! It was off on the high side by 1.7. We'll be checking it every week from now on. Not being accurate explains some of the issues we had with our last grow.

[McToker]

My searching finally paid off. I found a device that is so simple even I can't mess it up (knock wood).:D

Actually I found them from several vendors but this one had the clearest photo. They are sold by equipment suppliers for folks that do commercial carpet cleaning or fire/flood restoration.

They say it takes a 30 Amp dryer outlet and converts it to two 20 amp 120 volt outlets. This particular kit comes with 2 converters, one for a 3-prong outlet like I have next to my grow room and a second one for 4-prong outlets which I also have in my shop, just not as close to the grow room.

On another note, we got the new intake vent installed. Now, the A/C unit works like a champ and doesn't create negative pressure. We went with a different filter that is a two-layer design with one layer being a carbon filter. Light leakage is very minimal and is not going to be a problem. Canopy temp is now steady at 76 degrees Farenheit, + or - 1/2 a degree.

[LOC NAR on probation]

My searching finally paid off. I found a device that is so simple even I can't mess it up (knock wood).:D

Actually I found them from several vendors but this one had the clearest photo. They are sold by equipment suppliers for folks that do commercial carpet cleaning or fire/flood restoration.

They say it takes a 30 Amp dryer outlet and converts it to two 20 amp 120 volt outlets. This particular kit comes with 2 converters, one for a 3-prong outlet like I have next to my grow room and a second one for 4-prong outlets which I also have in my shop, just not as close to the grow room.

On another note, we got the new intake vent installed. Now, the A/C unit works like a champ and doesn't create negative pressure. We went with a different filter that is a two-layer design with one layer being a carbon filter. Light leakage is very minimal and is not going to be a problem. Canopy temp is now steady at 76 degrees Farenheit, + or - 1/2 a degree.

I like the converters. We could use those on the job for air compressors. they take alot to run and beats the temp wiring so OHSA don't fine us. LOL Nice find

[ForgetClassC]

Whats your feeding schedule with those there buckets. really want to give it a go, but I don't know If I would be able to follow the schedule, just seems like it has everything I would want. Let me know, nice grow so far. Hope those converters work for ya.

-C

[McToker]

Whats your feeding schedule with those there buckets. really want to give it a go, but I don't know If I would be able to follow the schedule, just seems like it has everything I would want. Let me know, nice grow so far. Hope those converters work for ya.

-C

So far they are only getting Ph adjusted R/O water + CalMag and are watered daily. We'll start them on 1/4 strength nutes this week and move up to 1/2 strength nutes about a week, or so, later. Once the tap roots reach the reservior we'll only water every 2 to 3 days. To make it easier (for us) to remember, we usually water every other day during vegging and flowering.

We use Botanicare nutes and follow the schedules (amounts) listed on the containers. Others have had success with Fox Farm nutes. FF has a feeding schedule broken down by weeks that is available on-line. Whichever brand(s) you chose, you'll want the nutes designed for hydro grows.

The Mrs. and I have found this system much easier (for us) than a soil grow. It's virtually impossible to under or over water.

Good luck

[ForgetClassC]

Works for me, thanks man, good luck growing, I'll be around.

-C

[McToker]

We went ahead and gave them 1/4 strength nutes today.

1st pic = the 2 BA's

2nd pic = 3 WH's (the one in the lower right is the one I dropped)

3rd pic = AK47

[MerryPrankstr]

Subscribed, McToker and wife!

M.P.

[McToker]

Welcome MP.

The babies quite enjoyed their first dose of nutes. The BA's doubled the span of their leaves since yesterday. The WH's leaf tips no longer point toward the ground. They point straight out from the stem except for one that still has a very slight droop.

I should probably confess. Yesterday I had a brain fart and inadvertantly gave them a 1/2 dose instead of a 1/4 dose. I suppose all is well as the instructions on the nutes actually call for 1/2 dose for seedlings.

We ordered more toys yesterday. I love tax refund time.:D Even though the A/C unit has a digital thermostat, it only controls whether or not the compressor kicks in. So, the fan is always on. This was making it a tad bit chilly at night. The A/C instructions claim that if power is cut off, when the power resumes the unit will automatically return to the last settings. We experimented by puling the plug rather than just turning it off. Sure enough, when we plugged it back in, it went to it's previous settings. So, we ordered a plug-in thermostat to control the A/C unit. We also ordered a couple sets of the Yo-Yo style light hangers. And, of course, we ordered the power converter mentioned in previous posts.

[McToker]

Started adding Sweet to the nute mix today.

Current nutes:

CalMag = Full strength
Grow = Full early vegging dose
Sweet = Full vegging dose

[McToker]

Started adding Sweet to the nute mix today.

Current nutes:

CalMag = Full strength
Grow = Full early vegging dose
Sweet = Full vegging dose

Correction: Grow and Sweet are at full "seedling" dose.

[caregiver420]

I've been lurking for a bit now and decided to pipe up and congratulate you on a job so far very well done. I can't wait to see how it goes. :hippy:

[McToker]

Thanks and pull up a chair caregiver. We're a bit anxious too.;)

We did some rearranging in the "room" yesterday. It gives us much better access to everything.

Pic 1 = The new arrangement. The flowering tent is off to the left, just out of view. The portable A/C unit is behind and also out of view. The lights are usually much lower but happened to be raised for feeding time. The digital thermometer on the left is the room temp and humidity. The thermometer on the right is the canopy temp. In the flowering tent we just run one unit for humidity and canopy temp.

Pic 2 = The BA's.

Pic 3 = The WH's. The one on the far left is a bit deformed. We'll just let it go and see what happens.

Pic 4 = The AK.

[McToker]

Moved up to vegging doses on nutes and every other day on watering.

The deformed WH is looking worse, poor color and stringy growth. We were going to let it go but are leaning more toward just culling it out. The other two WH's are doing well.

[McToker]

The babies were very thirsty after their first time of waiting 2 days to be fed taking an entire gallon among them.

Got the light yo-yo's installed yesterday. Why did I wait so long to try these?:thumbsup:

Yesterday afternoon it finally got warm enough for the compressor on the A/C unit to fire up. No pun intended.:D It sure sucked the humidity out of the room in a hurry. It dropped from 60% to 27%. We broke down and turned on the humidifier and brought it back up to 40%.

[McToker]

The power converter arrived so I hooked it up and did some testing.

What won't work:

The portable A/C unit when the compressor kicks on.

The Lumatek digital ballast (250 watt).

What does work:

The Vortex 4 inch fan.

The flourescent lights.

Incandescant lights.

Room fans.

Humidifier.

:wtf::wtf::wtf:

I admit that I am somewhat below genius level when it comes to things electrical. But, here's what I think is going on. I'm sure some of the electricians on the forum will correct me if my thinking is in error.

The converter takes a 30 Amp (240 Volt ?) dryer outlet and converts it to two 20 Amp 115 volt outlets. Both the portable A/C unit and the Lumatek ballast need a 120 volt power source according to the specs on each device and the converter is only putting out 115 volts.

Fortunately for our grow, I have other power sources in the room. I plugged the A/C unit back into the outlet I had been using and then fired up the HPS light in the flowering tent, also plugged into an existing outlet. After the light came up to full power, I cranked the thermostat down on the A/C until the compressor kicked on. WooHoo!!! No problems at all. So, we'll just run the A/C and the HPS on the existing 120 volt outlets and run all the other stuff (humidifier, flouros, room fans, etc.) on the new 115 volt outlets.

It's not what we were hoping for but it will work. :)

[headshake]

you need to worry about the amps that those devices pull. current is what carries the power, so all the volts in the world won't help if the current isn't there. this is how tazer guns work, all voltage, minimum current. it's the current that will kill you. it only takes 0.1-0.2 amps to kill you. hence tazers advertising 100,000 volts.

that 240V (or 208) should be on a 20A circuit breaker. so if you split it you know have two circuits on the same 20A cb. hope that helps.

on another note, i got a couple of 1 gallon buckets to try my hand at hempys again.

hope all is well with you are yours!


-shake

[McToker]

Good morning Shake ~ The breaker is two 15 amp modules tied together. Anyway, we've got enough power to do what we need to do. Other things in the shop are on their own circuits (lights, compressor, welder, etc...) so we should be OK.

The babies are doing pretty well. The BA's are really shooting up and out.:thumbsup: We're really torn between cloning to determine sex first or throwing a couple into flower and play with cloning later. Yup, you guessed it. We're out, again.:( Either way, we have a couple weeks to decide.

[headshake]

i gotcha MCT. just trying to throw my $.02 out there as always.

why not try your hand at cloning? you don't have to take cuttings off of all of them. it's easier than most are led to believe. i just use jiffy pucks and an old rubbermaid tube with plastic wrap on top. haven't lost a clone yet. again, take with a grain of salt.

sucks to be out, but i feel your pain. perhaps i can shove a nug in the mail for ya once harvest time is about!?


-shake

[McToker]

Thanks shake, but, we'll last.

I was reading an article on cloning to determine sex last night that said that going with 10 on/ 14 off lighting will cause them to show their sex in only 3 to 4 days. I think we can afford that.;)

One of the B/A's will be ready to take a clone from quite a bit sooner than the rest so we'll give it a shot. Heck, the cloner is already built and ready to rock n roll.:thumbsup:

[McToker]

I forget to mention, a few days ago, that we culled out the deformed WH. We went ahead and removed the plant from the bucket to inspect the roots. Noticably absent was anything resembling a tap root. There were only 2 small roots that only extended about 1 1/2 inches from the jiffy cube.

It looks like we'll be ready to try cloning as early as tomorrow on the larger of the 2 WH's.

I hope I'm correct in assuming that the water in the cloner should have the same corrected pH as used in hydro gardening.

We'll be sticking with Botanicare Power Clone (gel and solution) products for cloning since that is what we're using in all the other stages.

In the pic, from left to right: AK-47, two Wrecked Homicide, two Blue Apollo

[McToker]

We fired up the cloner yesterday only to find that the air stones suck. Not litterally. One put out a few bubbles and the other did absolutely nothing. Went back and read the sticky on cloning, again, and found where Opie Yutts recommended the air tubes. Off to Wally World for tubes and a bigger air pump. Now, we have air.:thumbsup:

This morning we cut two clones off of the biggest BA and set the light timer for 10 on and 14 off. We're using a single 2700k CFL bulb in a clamp-on shop light over the cloner.

[headshake]

you want to keep that CFL running 18/6 or 24/0. and keep it backed off just a bit, higher than normal.

the pH of the cloner should be about 5.5-5.8. i don't think you'll have any problems. remember though, when they root to keep an eye on hardening off.

good growing!


-shake

[McToker]

Shake ~ I would agree with you on the lighting times if we were trying to veg these clones. But, we're just trying to determine the sex of the donor plant. These two clones will just be "throw-aways" after they show their sex.

That is, if it works.;)

So far (knock wood) it's been over 24 hours and both are still alive.:thumbsup:

The donors are still too young to take viable (potent) clones from. I've read that donors should be at least 2 months into veg and that up to 4 months of veg will produce even more potent clones. We'll see.

[McToker]

One of the clones didn't make it. Starting to have doubts about showing sex in 3 to 4 days like the article suggested.

We topped the largest of the BA's so we could even out the light. We bumped up the Grow nutes to mid-vegging level a couple days ago. The babies seem to love it. The fan leaves on the BA's are HUGE.

[McToker]

The lone clone is still alive. No signs yet.

BUT, one of Killa's purples (WH) is starting to pre-flower. Shouldn't be long before we know on that one. :)

I think for our next attempt at cloning, we'll veg them for a bit first before turning off the light.

Will the learning ever end?;):D

[McToker]

The "lone clone" didn't make it.

Executing PLAN B. We moved the cloner to a warmer spot in the room. Cut 3 more clones, 1 from each BA and 1 from the AK. The plan is to leave them under 24 hour light and veg them first. That reminds me, I need to change out the CFL to 6500k one. After some roots take hold we'll move on to flowering them to determine sex.

The WH that started to pre-flower hasn't shown what sex it wants to be, yet.

[headshake]

sounds like a good plan McT! hope it works out for you this time!

-shake

[McToker]

Well, the WH that showed pre-flowers turned out to be a male.:( We'd had our suspicions but waited a while to make sure.

On the clone front, the two BA clones are just starting to form roots.:D The AK clone is withering. Ain't gonna make it.:(

We'll try for a WH and another AK clone later today or tomorrow.

[Shovelhandle]

howdy bro!

[McToker]

Hey Shove. Glad you're still checking in.

We found another thing that doesn't work on the power converter. Twice in the last 24 hours we've had to replace the CFL bulb over the cloner. Guessing they just don't like the lower amps or ???

The converter kit came with a 4-prong converter, as well. We're going to test it and see if it works out any better. If it does, we'll just run an extension cord over from the outlet for the welder.

We went ahead and cut two more clones, one each of the AK and the WH.

Also had to start LST on one of the BA's. It was just getting too much taller than the others.

[McToker]

The latest AK clone has already keeled over. Guess this plant just doesn't want to give us clones. So, we'll just veg it a bit longer and put it in the flowering tent.

The other clones are hanging in there.

[McToker]

We decided to go ahead and move the AK into the flowering tent on a transition mix of nutes. Hopefully it will be a girl and give us some meds while we play with cloning the others.

The roots on the BA clones are looking GOOD!:thumbsup:

WH clone is hanging in there.

We're thinking about enlarging a couple holes in the cloner to accept Jiffy cubes. We feel it may ease the transition to a vegging pot after growing roots.

Mrs. McT can't decide if we have a farm or a laboratory.:)

[headshake]

if the cloner is giving you trouble you can just put your cutting in the jiffy cube and put it in something that will retain humidity. i use a rubbermaid tub with plastic wrap over the top. works like a charm and 100% success rate. hardly ever have to deal with hardening off either. (sorry if i said something about this before, but i haven't been on in a while and i'm really stoned!)


-shake

[McToker]

if the cloner is giving you trouble you can just put your cutting in the jiffy cube and put it in something that will retain humidity. i use a rubbermaid tub with plastic wrap over the top. works like a charm and 100% success rate. hardly ever have to deal with hardening off either. (sorry if i said something about this before, but i haven't been on in a while and i'm really stoned!)


-shake

Lucky you.:D About that last part, that is.:jointsmile::D:jointsmile:

The cloner is working fine. We just thought we would explore the option by enlarging a couple of the clone spots. Seems like it would be easier to just stick a jiffy cube into a hempy bucket when the time comes. Just an experiment.:) If I recall correctly, that's how Opie Yutts has his cloner set up.

[headshake]

i hear ya about the experimenting McT. i do it all the time. get's me in a good bit of trouble sometimes as well!

keep pushing it my friend!


-shake

[McToker]

Hey!!! This cloning thing really does work.:D

Not sure how long we should let the roots on the clones get. But, since we are in experimental mode, we went ahead and stuck them in their hempy buckets. We ran about a gallon of pH corrected and CalMag'd water through the buckets before transplanting the clones.

The WH is just starting to show an itty bitty root.:)

1st pic is the roots on the 2 BA clones.

2nd pic is a group shot of the vegging table.

3rd pic is the two new BA clones.

The AK was unavailable as it was night time in the flowering tent.

[McToker]

WooHoo!!! It's a girl!!!:D

We have our first confirmed female of the grow. The AK-47 has shown its sex after just a few days in the flowering tent.

[McToker]

Both BA's are showing female pre-flowers. So........ we moved the larger one into the flowering tent. It's only larger because of longer space between nodes. She was trying to take over the vegging bench.

The current line-up:

In the cloner: 1 WH & 1 AK (this is one we had given up on. now it's starting to show some life)

On the Vegging/Mom bench: 1 mature BA, 1 mature WH & 2 BA clones

In the Flowering tent: 1 AK & 1 BA

[Shovelhandle]

good news

[headshake]

keep up the good work!

-shake

[McToker]

Just a quick update.

CLONER:

The 2 cuttings in the cloner weren't doing much. Pulled them out. Changed out the solution. Put 2 new WH cuttings in the cloner.

Veg/Mom Table:

Adults (1 WH(?) & 1 BA-Mom) are happy.
2 early vegging BA clones are doing well.

Flowering Tent:

AK-47 is almost 2 weeks in and starting to bud up nicely. The BA is a week behind the AK so not much change showing yet.

[McToker]

It's been a bit since we posted any pics....... so ....... here goes.

Pic 1 is the 2 BA cuttings in the cloner

Pic 2 is (L to R) WH, 2 BA's from clones, BA Mom

Pic 3 is the AK at 2 weeks into flower

Pic 4 is the AK (on the left) and BA in the flowering tent

[McToker]

We just moved our first BA clone to the flowering tent. It's the first time we've ever put a plant this small into flower. She's about 10 to 12 inches tall. We're going to play around with some topping/fimmimg on the other clone before we flower her.

After still more reading we started adding Liquid Karma to our nutes.

WooHoo!!! We've got thrichomes showing up on the AK!!!:D

[headshake]

those are some fantastically healthy looking plants! keep up the good work!

-shake

[McToker]

Thanks Shake. Here's a little group shot from the flowering tent this morning.

The AK-47 is on the left, the Blue Apollo is on the right and down in front by the fan is the BA clone we put in yesterday.

[McToker]

Cloning update: The 2 WH clones are hanging in there but today marks 2 weeks in the cloner. There are 2 small roots forming on one of them. Hopefully another week will do the trick. I guess they are just slow.

The BA's rooted and were ready to plant in one week.

[BeFree]

Glad to hear the good news, McT!!

Also glad to see that you're still here on cann.com. :jointsmile:

I'm gona try not to be such a stranger. It's just hard to be here and not be able to do what I enjoy doin' so much. (growing, that is) :hippy:

Soon enough, in the next few months or so...I should have a nice fresh new log going.

Be good and be safe you two.
And tell the Mrs. that be says, 'Hi!'.

[McToker]

Welcome back BeFree!

[McToker]

The WH's in the cloner are starting to look puny. We're just not having any luck cloning AK-47 or the WH. Guess we'll wait until the AK is done and move the mature (vegging) WH into the flowering tent. We really want to see some purple buds.:D

At least we got one good healthy BA mom to clone from.:thumbsup: