Medical Marijuana is a Joke!

[neversummer]

Just legalize it already. 99% of these dispensaries are just out to make profit, and have little knowledge of marijuana. Why should it cost $200, just for a license? Sick people should be able to get medicine without paying an arm and a leg. $50 and eighth is unaffordable, and a flat ripoff. Never have i once gone to a dispensary and had them ask me what my medical condition for my card is. Normally i am treated like someone who just started smoking weed yesterday. Most of the "medicine" i have seen is below average, and overpriced. The people who work at these places usually know very little about "medical grade" marijuana. If you are calling something medical, it should be top quality, no exceptions. How is it medical if you let 50 people a day molest your medicine. How is selling expired edibles with dog hair in them medical? Whats up with all this fake ass paperwork.

If someone claims to run a "medical" establishment, they should act like it. Provide high quality medicine at the cheapest prices. Show concern over your patients well being.

Most people that have medical cards, just want to smoke weed. Im not your patient, and i dont give a shit if its Sativa or Indica. Just give me some stinky smelling organic buds for $25 an eighth. I want to be able to smoke in public , or at least in a private business. Get rid of all the bullshit outdoor, hydro, and keifed buds.

Marijuana has lots of medicinal properties. Most of these dispensaries are an insult to the term "medical." A lot of these places are glorified headshops run by shady, carpetbaggers, with little knowledge about marijuana, and treat their customers like ignorant children. I cant wait for half of these shitholes to close, and the rest will have to step in line, or suffer the same fate.

[cornbread]

It sounds like you've as much luck as me finding reputable setups. Why don't you retain your caregiver rights and legally grow your own ounces for a whopping $15 each? It's a hell-of-a-lot better than messing with all those goofs. Just buy enough weed to get you thru until harvest. You'll never look back.

[WashougalWonder]

Most of these dispensaries are an insult to the term "medical." A lot of these places are glorified headshops run by shady, carpetbaggers, with little knowledge about marijuana, and treat their customers like ignorant children.

I so agree

[cronicmonster]

So ya don't like hydro,or outside buds........What kind do you prefer????I see you like "organic".....I prefer "organic outdoor buds"....Grown under the blue Colorado skies,Takin in that cool, fresh ,mountian air!!
I agree most disp. weed is crap..... They have no idea what "TOP SHELF" is.... I also have to agree w/ cornbread.....GROW your own or DONT complain about it!!!!Most consumers have NO IDEA what it takes to proudce the "DANKY DANK".....seems easy enough.Most find out differently after they try for themselves!
As for the price you would like to pay??/ I sugest you hook up w/ a grower/caregiver. that price is about what most would charge.
I believe that some shops do have exelent meds.... We do not have a shop in DURANGO that does.They have large overheads so the Meds will cost a little more...

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

Just legalize it already. 99% of these dispensaries are just out to make profit, and have little knowledge of marijuana. Why should it cost $200, just for a license? Sick people should be able to get medicine without paying an arm and a leg. $50 and eighth is unaffordable, and a flat ripoff. Never have i once gone to a dispensary and had them ask me what my medical condition for my card is. Normally i am treated like someone who just started smoking weed yesterday. Most of the "medicine" i have seen is below average, and overpriced. The people who work at these places usually know very little about "medical grade" marijuana. If you are calling something medical, it should be top quality, no exceptions. How is it medical if you let 50 people a day molest your medicine. How is selling expired edibles with dog hair in them medical? Whats up with all this fake ass paperwork.

If someone claims to run a "medical" establishment, they should act like it. Provide high quality medicine at the cheapest prices. Show concern over your patients well being.

Most people that have medical cards, just want to smoke weed. Im not your patient, and i dont give a shit if its Sativa or Indica. Just give me some stinky smelling organic buds for $25 an eighth. I want to be able to smoke in public , or at least in a private business. Get rid of all the bullshit outdoor, hydro, and keifed buds.

Marijuana has lots of medicinal properties. Most of these dispensaries are an insult to the term "medical." A lot of these places are glorified headshops run by shady, carpetbaggers, with little knowledge about marijuana, and treat their customers like ignorant children. I cant wait for half of these shitholes to close, and the rest will have to step in line, or suffer the same fate.


I have to be honest that im a little disturbed by your comment. I have put everything into this shop, I work 12-14 hour days, and im just barely covering my bills. Me and my team work extremely hard to bring quality affordable medicine to paitents and we have 8ths as low as 38 dollars WITH TAX. Everyone loves to villify the dispensary owner like were all making millions of dollars....but hell, 99% of my patients drive a nicer car then me....

The reason you may be treated the way you do, is because the majority of patients out here are very new to strain names and indica/sativa dominant hybrids and sometimes need a little extra help finding what suits them best. Ive lost three friends to this fight and they are my driving force to ensure that people like themselfs need not suffer when access is so readily available. Im not a doctor or a scientist, im a cannabis cultivator who comes from a place of caring.

Have a great wednesday fellas, life is meant to be enjoyed!!!

-Bryan.:jointsmile:

[Kartel]

If someone claims to run a "medical" establishment, they should act like it. Provide high quality medicine at the cheapest prices. Show concern over your patients well being.

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Ever been to a walgreens or a "medical" doctor without insurance?

I don't think anyone in the "medical" establishment in America is out to "provide high quality medicine at the cheapest prices."

Is that some kind of satirical statement? Doesn't make any sense otherwise.

[Faddenator]

Ever been to a walgreens or a "medical" doctor without insurance?

I don't think anyone in the "medical" establishment in America is out to "provide high quality medicine at the cheapest prices."

Is that some kind of satirical statement? Doesn't make any sense otherwise.

True, pharmaceutical companies are run by some of the shittiest people on the planet. I also completely agree that a lot of dispensaries out there should NOT be in business. Handling pills is a little different then handling a dried plant.

Having 50+ people come in and touch something you are about to put in your lungs is STUPID. I think it should work much like a pharmacy, where you are written a perscription for Indica/sativa dom. or even for a particular set of strains. The pharmacist could then pick a strain from that set and sell that. if the patient doesn't like it, they try a new one. Essentially it would work exactly how a pharmacy works. I think this could help weed out some of the sketchy bastards.

I'm not bashing everyone, I'm sure a lot of dispensaries care more about the providing medicine aspect, and not the being cool cause you sell weed aspect. Thats awesome, because until there is a certain level of maturity behind medical marijuana- on both the patients and the dispensaries part- Lawmakers will be VERY reluctant to improve the MMJ system.

I just woke up so that might be a little confusing. sorry. :jointsmile:

[the image reaper]

Me and my team work extremely hard to bring quality affordable medicine to paitents and we have 8ths as low as 38 dollars WITH TAX.
-Bryan.:jointsmile:

oh, aren't YOU the generous one :wtf: ... my friends and I GIVE it away, you might try that, next time you feel like being so fucking 'affordable' ... you're a disgrace, posing as a humanitarian ... GET A FUCKING REAL JOB, and give away your pot, to 'the sick and suffering' ... the original poster of this thread has it right :smokin:

[COzigzag]

Having 50+ people come in and touch something you are about to put in your lungs is STUPID.

I have issues with this too.

Where have their fingers been? Seriously, using the bathroom, picking their ears and noses, licking their fingers, etc.

It creeps me out!

[neversummer]

Ever been to a walgreens or a "medical" doctor without insurance?

I don't think anyone in the "medical" establishment in America is out to "provide high quality medicine at the cheapest prices."

Is that some kind of satirical statement? Doesn't make any sense otherwise.

In case you didnt realize, healthcare is a hot topic right now. Lots of people are trying to get high quality healthcare at affordable prices. Just because walgreens, pharmaceutical companies, and some doctors have it wrong, doesnt mean that it has to be that way.

If it doesnt make since to you, you are an idiot. Lower the prices, and treat patients like patients.

[Tharagor]

oh, aren't YOU the generous one :wtf: ... my friends and I GIVE it away, you might try that, next time you feel like being so fucking 'affordable' ... you're a disgrace, posing as a humanitarian ... GET A FUCKING REAL JOB, and give away your pot, to 'the sick and suffering' ... the original poster of this thread has it right :smokin:"

Ok "high and mighty" settle down there, unless you have a trust fund floating yer boat it still costs to grow, so just sit back and smoke one of these :jointsmile:, Bryan is good people

[neversummer]

My main point of this rant was just legalize it so we dont have to pretend like everything is so medical. Its just a big joke. Legalize it already.

[senorx12562]

This whole thread is absolutely hilarious. "I want it yesterday, and below cost." Wah, Wah, Wah. Grow up and move into the real world people. Don't you see the contradiction in saying you want better quality, but you want to pay less? Just because it's cannabis you think it is somehow not subject to the same market forces as any other commodity? Jesus Christ, I'm glad none of you are my patients. You are right about one thing though, "Medical" Marijuana is a joke.

[cronicmonster]

My main point of this rant was just legalize it so we dont have to pretend like everything is so medical. Its just a big joke. Legalize it already.

Come on....Do you really believe that if it was legalalized it would be cheaper and better?????? And Neversummer growers would "line-up" to "GIVE" you the meds that "you" deserve????

Hey Reaper.....I have a card and I was wonderin If I drive to Cali,will you give me my meds????? Since I am so sick I could probably only make the drive once a year so.....I would probably need a pound or so.......When can I come get my "FREE" meds that you just give away to all the sick people in California......Sure you do!!!!
Not an attack but tryin to figure out where you draw the line????I CANT produce meds for free and I doubt "you and your friends" can either..... so about those "free" meds???????

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

I agree with neversummer. Please legalize it. No one deserves to be in jail for such a harmless plant.


The new slogan should be:

"RELEGALIZE MARIJUANA NOW OR CRIMINALIZE ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO!!!"

If the goverment is truly vexed about our personal health, which they have proven numerous times it is not their priority, then they need to criminalize alcohol and tobacco, the two most dangerous drugs available today.:D

[ForgetClassC]

Honestly, yes it is, its just another ploy the government sent out to make a buck or two. Honestly, what was their reason for not legalizing it earlier? Oh, cuz the private prisons paid the officials so that they keep getting prisoners. Now, well the government has to make that money someway or another. Why should legal pot cost the same as illegal pot, its expensive because what had to happen to get it there, meaning the risk. With legal pot, why should there be an upcharge. This shit should be going for middies prices and better get you high as fuck. I know if I went into a dispensary and I was displeased the house of reps would hear about it because they(not specifically the HoR but the gov't) are the ones saying that marijuana users were/are the ones that can't do anything right cuz we are always stoned, so WTF is their excuse.

-C

[justinsane33]

you just give it away? wow. i don't have cancer but if i don't smoke i throwup all day until it turns into dry heaving and then i just curl up into a ball and hope to die. i think i qualify. i mean you're SO giving you surely wouldn't turn me away right? i might be able to get out there more than once a year but i'm probably gonna need a pound each time. thanks a ton.

[neversummer]

This whole thread is absolutely hilarious. "I want it yesterday, and below cost." Wah, Wah, Wah. Grow up and move into the real world people. Don't you see the contradiction in saying you want better quality, but you want to pay less? Just because it's cannabis you think it is somehow not subject to the same market forces as any other commodity? Jesus Christ, I'm glad none of you are my patients. You are right about one thing though, "Medical" Marijuana is a joke.

I live in the real world. I sell pizzas for $5, and i have lots of competition. I never said below cost. The people i sell pizzas to are not my patients. $50 an eighth is more than gold, that price was that high when it was ILLEGAL. There is no reason that weed should cost that much when its LEGAL. And i know I am right, "medical" is a joke. If it was "medical" it wouldnt cost an arm and a leg. No one gives a shit about my health. Im glad im not your patient either, cuz obviously your weed sucks. Also , just because you grow weed, you are not a doctor. You do not have patients. You grow weed, you have customers. Im glad im not your CUSTOMER.

Cannabis is subject to the same market forces as any other commodity , and thats why the price WILL DROP, not that its becoming legal across the country. These are the last days of selling that shit like its gold. Its just a weed that grows wild. Ive always dreamed of the day when marijuana would be legal, and affordable. I could probably get crack or heroin cheaper than this so called medical bullshit.

[palerider7777]

Come on....Do you really believe that if it was legalalized it would be cheaper and better?????? And Neversummer growers would "line-up" to "GIVE" you the meds that "you" deserve???? people like never won't be happy until the gov runs it completely. they want to have to go to a doc 6 times a year or more and pay doc fees just to get a script then go pay another middle man for the meds lmao sounds like a cheaper way to me im guessing since the gov is so great it will prob be free by the pounds.infact it will be so good the gov is coming out with the best strain ever just for the cool peeps like never it's called g14.

Hey Reaper.....I have a card and I was wonderin If I drive to Cali,will you give me my meds????? Since I am so sick I could probably only make the drive once a year so.....I would probably need a pound or so.......When can I come get my "FREE" meds that you just give away to all the sick people in California......Sure you do!!!!
Not an attack but tryin to figure out where you draw the line????I CANT produce meds for free and I doubt "you and your friends" can either..... so about those "free" meds???????i say this to peeps all the time and still no free meds? infact im waiting on never to step up and lead the way.hey never when you gunna open that shop up? were all waiting on the free top shelf.did'nt you say you will have so much stock that we all can come in and grab as much as we can fit in our rides?

you know for the compassion and all? let me know when ya open i'll be by twice a week.since i only eat with it i need alot more.im sure you will come through with those great growing skills you have?did'nt you say you pull 10lbs per plant with only a week veg from seed?

[neversummer]

Come on....Do you really believe that if it was legalalized it would be cheaper and better?????? And Neversummer growers would "line-up" to "GIVE" you the meds that "you" deserve????

Hey Reaper.....I have a card and I was wonderin If I drive to Cali,will you give me my meds????? Since I am so sick I could probably only make the drive once a year so.....I would probably need a pound or so.......When can I come get my "FREE" meds that you just give away to all the sick people in California......Sure you do!!!!
Not an attack but tryin to figure out where you draw the line????I CANT produce meds for free and I doubt "you and your friends" can either..... so about those "free" meds???????

I know it would be better and cheaper. Have you ever been to Amsterdam?

I learned this 10 years ago.

[palerider7777]

I live in the real world. I sell pizzas for $5, and i have lots of competition. I never said below cost. The people i sell pizzas to are not my patients. $50 an eighth is more than gold, that price was that high when it was ILLEGAL. There is no reason that weed should cost that much when its LEGAL. And i know I am right, "medical" is a joke. If it was "medical" it wouldnt cost an arm and a leg. No one gives a shit about my health. Im glad im not your patient either, cuz obviously your weed sucks. Also , just because you grow weed, you are not a doctor. You do not have patients. You grow weed, you have customers. Im glad im not your CUSTOMER.

Cannabis is subject to the same market forces as any other commodity , and thats why the price WILL DROP, not that its becoming legal across the country. These are the last days of selling that shit like its gold. Its just a weed that grows wild. Ive always dreamed of the day when marijuana would be legal, and affordable. I could probably get crack or heroin cheaper than this so called medical bullshit.
cry me a river need a tissue for that issue? don't cry dry your eye. lmao it's a weed it grows wild lmao thats funny you say that when you were just crying about topshelf.you mean that stuff that grows wild i think you mean mexi brick?wow i can see how much you don't really know by that statement thats roflmao funny.
and again your wrong about prices dropping wow again u need to pull your head out of you know what.how long has oxy's been out? and how much are they still? any high grade meds still cost out the ass.don't know what cave you have been in?you do climb so maybe you got lost for a bit and just made it back to town??instead of all the bs talk and crying back your words up and man up and do what you say everyone else should do huh?other wise you just sound like a mooch.

btw how would you know his weed sux just by his staement above? i see the hate coming out of you just because he said it like it was??

[neversummer]

i say this to peeps all the time and still no free meds? infact im waiting on never to step up and lead the way.hey never when you gunna open that shop up? were all waiting on the free top shelf.did'nt you say you will have so much stock that we all can come in and grab as much as we can fit in our rides?

you know for the compassion and all? let me know when ya open i'll be by twice a week.since i only eat with it i need alot more.im sure you will come through with those great growing skills you have?did'nt you say you pull 10lbs per plant with only a week veg from seed?

You are a tool. You lost all credibility when you bought clones from a cop off craigslist. I never said shit about free medicine. I would give you a free eighth if you learn how to capitalize, and punctuate. Maybe you should quit smoking weed for a while, and go back to school and learn how to read and write. Maybe then you can understand where I am coming from. :thumbsup:

[palerider7777]

You are a tool. You lost all credibility when you bought clones from a cop off craigslist. I never said shit about free medicine. I would give you a free eighth if you learn how to capitalize, and punctuate. Maybe you should quit smoking weed for a while, and go back to school and learn how to read and write. Maybe then you can understand where I am coming from. :thumbsup:

again when things don't go your way you cop out and resort to insults like you did above.wow your weak if you keep it up im gunna call you on your bullshit so keep it up.

how would one loose credibility from buying clones? wow 3 year olds flip me better shit than that.

[neversummer]

again when things don't go your way you cop out and resort to insults like you did above.wow your weak if you keep it up im gunna call you on your bullshit so keep it up.

how would one loose credibility from buying clones? wow 3 year olds flip me better shit than that.

You called me out. You posted my name first. You are an idiot. I just call it like it is. I want cheaper, better weed, you want to sell your crap hydro for higher prices.

I guess we will agree to disagree.

[palerider7777]

People cant grow oxy in their closet. I sell quarters for $75, so kiss my ass fag.


wow i get to call you on 2 things now.you talk about price then you charge 300 an oz? i charge 250 an oz all day so your ripping peeps off huh?

this part is even better cause i get to call u on some big bs.i told u nice to stop but you big lib mouth just can't shut up. so tell me mr compassion your crying about meds being bs and wheres the compassion.it should be cheaper for sick peeps and all? how sick can you be when you can go rock climbing all the time??must not be that bad huh?talk about someone using the same system your trying to out? is'nt that called a hypocrite?

[neversummer]

wow i get to call you on 2 things now.you talk about price then you charge 300 an oz? i charge 250 an oz all day so your ripping peeps off huh?

this part is even better cause i get to call u on some big bs.i told u nice to stop but you big lib mouth just can't shut up. so tell me mr compassion your crying about meds being bs and wheres the compassion.it should be cheaper for sick peeps and all? how sick can you be when you can go rock climbing all the time??must not be that bad huh?talk about someone using the same system your trying to out? is'nt that called a hypocrite?


My weed is better than yours though, so its worth it. When my price drops, than ill charge $50 a quarter.

I dont rock climb! Never have, never will. I am a snowboarder, thats why my name is "Never Summer".

Im not a hypocrite, because i know its a joke. I have a plate and 8 screws in my shoulder, i have chronic pain. I dont need weed for my shoulder, but the doctor said i could have it if i want it. I could go without, but its my choice. I smoke weed more for mental reasons, than physical. I never lied to get my card. I do think this whole medical thing is just a loophole for people to smoke weed, and eventually legalize it.

Im done with you. You have the IQ of a 16 year old.

[palerider7777]

you can always tell when peeps like you get called on your bs.instead of coming back with facts to support your case you go str8 to name calling.how weak.people like you are very easy to control.your so pissed now you can't see str8. lmao ....sure your not...went ahead and responded to your denial post.


Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence

[palerider7777]

My weed is better than yours though, so its worth it. When my price drops, than ill charge $50 a quarter.

I dont rock climb! Never have, never will. I am a snowboarder, thats why my name is "Never Summer".

Im not a hypocrite, because i know its a joke. I have a plate and 8 screws in my shoulder, i have chronic pain. I dont need weed for my shoulder, but the doctor said i could have it if i want it. I could go without, but its my choice. I smoke weed more for mental reasons, than physical. I never lied to get my card. I do think this whole medical thing is just a loophole for people to smoke weed, and eventually legalize it.

Im done with you. You have the IQ of a 16 year old.


i guess you don't remember the pm you sent me back when you frist came on here looking for a caregiver??hummmm.

[neversummer]

you can always tell when peeps like you get called on your bs.instead of coming back with facts to support your case you go str8 to name calling.how weak.people like you are very easy to control.your so pissed now you can't see str8. lmao ....sure your not...went ahead and responded to your denial post.


Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence


I am only pissed that i am surrounded by people that are as dumb as you.

[FarmerNinja]

ok first of all who the hell in their right mind is going go through all the money and time and effort to grow their own medicine and then give it away for free?? anyone who thinks that most of these "medical" dispensaries are ripping people off. ok some of the medicine at certain places is better than others but really they are the same as street prices and most of the time even cheaper. and there you know what you're getting!! why am i going to try to buy an eight off some shady guy in the park rather than going to somewhere i've been and feel safe at? i think it's great that farmers take time to grow quality medicine and are allowed to "dispense" them in various shops. the experiences ive had with people in shops is 50/50. half of the time i know more about what im looking at than they do. and the other half are real happy to help me pick out something new.
how can u complain about a law that protects sick people from prosecution when using medical mj?

i agree that most people just use it as an excuse to smoke but if anything thats good!!! one more step to legalization. and im not even sure that legalization is the key either but even if it is legal there are still going to be people that want quality stuff from people they trust and these shops will be the first place to go. so its kind of hard for me to complain about it even though prices are a bit high.

all in all. just grow your own. its fun and you'll learn a lot about plant biology. experimenting with the best payback in the end. i can't think of anything better than that. can you?

[palerider7777]

I am only pissed that i am surrounded by people that are as dumb as you.

yea your the smart one spouting off aboput how meds are a rip off and should be free then you say you charge 300 an oz.and im the dumb one lmao but we both know your only saying the things you do cause your on here lmao.the internet is great for people like you to hide behind huh.

[palerider7777]

I am only pissed that i am surrounded by people that are as dumb as you. this coming from someone that posted this.


Its just a weed that grows wild
If someone claims to run a "medical" establishment, they should act like it. Provide high quality medicine at the cheapest prices


it's just a weed it grows wild roflmao...yea you know what your doing.lmao i sell mine at 300 becuase it's better than yours lmao roflmao.....

[neversummer]

this coming from someone that posted this.


Its just a weed that grows wild
If someone claims to run a "medical" establishment, they should act like it. Provide high quality medicine at the cheapest prices


it's just a weed it grows wild roflmao...yea you know what your doing.lmao i sell mine at 300 becuase it's better than yours lmao roflmao.....

I sell mine for what i pay. I dont grow yet.

[neversummer]

yea your the smart one spouting off aboput how meds are a rip off and should be free then you say you charge 300 an oz.and im the dumb one lmao but we both know your only saying the things you do cause your on here lmao.the internet is great for people like you to hide behind huh.

For the second time , I never said weed should be free. You are putting words in my mouth. I dont rockclimb, and i never pm'ed you. You are crazy . Go away

[colagal]

I know it would be better and cheaper. Have you ever been to Amsterdam?

I learned this 10 years ago.

I doubt that legalizing mm will turn Colorado into an Amsterdam, and that legalization will happen anytime soon; although public opinion in favor of legalization certainly is increasing - witness New Jersey being the 14th state.

I predict that the proposed legislative restrictions and taxes will increase rather than lower costs, at least initially. Until there is a digestible way to certify the quality of mm, inconsistency will abound, and you won't always get what you pay for.

Maybe FDA will reclassify this from a Schedule 1 to a Schedule 4 or 5 drug, and maybe definitive and recognized research will be done, and maybe the "medical" aspects can be quantified, and maybe it will all make sense. In the meantime, nonsense prevails....

[senorx12562]

I live in the real world. I sell pizzas for $5, and i have lots of competition. I never said below cost. The people i sell pizzas to are not my patients. $50 an eighth is more than gold, that price was that high when it was ILLEGAL. There is no reason that weed should cost that much when its LEGAL. And i know I am right, "medical" is a joke. If it was "medical" it wouldnt cost an arm and a leg. No one gives a shit about my health. Im glad im not your patient either, cuz obviously your weed sucks. Also , just because you grow weed, you are not a doctor. You do not have patients. You grow weed, you have customers. Im glad im not your CUSTOMER.

Cannabis is subject to the same market forces as any other commodity , and thats why the price WILL DROP, not that its becoming legal across the country. These are the last days of selling that shit like its gold. Its just a weed that grows wild. Ive always dreamed of the day when marijuana would be legal, and affordable. I could probably get crack or heroin cheaper than this so called medical bullshit.
First off, get your facts straight. Gold is over 1000/oz. you putz, more than 2.5 times the 50 an eighth you quoted. Took me 10 seconds to look that up. How do you know my weed sucks? Have you smoked it? I'd put it up against what you grow any day. Oh wait, that's right, you don't grow, so have no idea what it costs or takes to grow. Yeah it grows wild. I'll make a trip along I-70 and rustle you up a pound or two, 300 per. What do you think? My last harvest was sold for 250/ oz, less than you say you sell for. That's not counting the two ozs. I gave away. It's people like you that give assholes a bad name.

[stuartambient]

Having 50+ people come in and touch something you are about to put in your lungs is STUPID. I think it should work much like a pharmacy, where you are written a perscription for Indica/sativa dom. or even for a particular set of strains. The pharmacist could then pick a strain from that set and sell that. if the patient doesn't like it, they try a new one. Essentially it would work exactly how a pharmacy works. I think this could help weed out some of the sketchy bastards.


The place I go to now, and a few others do not fill prescriptions from the same jars people are opening , sniffing , touching . There are sample jars and they fill from ones down inside the counters.

[FarmerNinja]

the place i go to doesnt even let people touch the jars let alone the buds. they hold it for u and let you "sniff"

good policy for dirty hands

[palerider7777]

For the second time , I never said weed should be free. You are putting words in my mouth. I dont rockclimb, and i never pm'ed you. You are crazy . Go away

no it's not a lie and you know it unless you forget that easy.it was back b4 they turned off the pm's for whatever reason. it went something like this,hey whats up when do you want to get together? well im going out rockclimbing this weekend maybe next week.jar your brain alil bit?

[palerider7777]

if i do recall you liked my pics of my meds and pm'd me asking what i had to offer saying your pics looks great and i'd like to know more about it.so it went from that to your meds are better than mine lmao.


oh btw i'll call you out again.how can you make a post saying how bad the meds are yet your selling these meds others grow?then on top of that brag about how good your meds are over everyone elses?things just don't seem to add up huh? your talking out both sides of your mouth there bub. just trying to flip to make a profit are we? your starting to sound like a punk kid.....

[neversummer]

First off, get your facts straight. Gold is over 1000/oz. you putz, more than 2.5 times the 50 an eighth you quoted. Took me 10 seconds to look that up. How do you know my weed sucks? Have you smoked it? I'd put it up against what you grow any day. Oh wait, that's right, you don't grow, so have no idea what it costs or takes to grow. Yeah it grows wild. I'll make a trip along I-70 and rustle you up a pound or two, 300 per. What do you think? My last harvest was sold for 250/ oz, less than you say you sell for. That's not counting the two ozs. I gave away. It's people like you that give assholes a bad name.

$250 is a great deal. Most dispensaries are charging $400. I never said it should be sold below cost. Most individual caregivers are doing a much better job than these dispensaries. I have lots of friends that grow, i know exactly what it takes and costs. I do expect priced to come down, and quality will go up. That is the upside of legalization.

[palerider7777]

$250 is a great deal. Most dispensaries are charging $400. I never said it should be sold below cost. Most individual caregivers are doing a much better job than these dispensaries. I have lots of friends that grow, i know exactly what it takes and costs. I do expect priced to come down, and quality will go up. That is the upside of legalization.

nice can i act like a lil kid now and point out your mis spelling? yup ohhh im a big cat now i just pointed out a misspelled word.....lame

[neversummer]

if i do recall you liked my pics of my meds and pm'd me asking what i had to offer saying your pics looks great and i'd like to know more about it.so it went from that to your meds are better than mine lmao.


oh btw i'll call you out again.how can you make a post saying how bad the meds are yet your selling these meds others grow?then on top of that brag about how good your meds are over everyone elses?things just don't seem to add up huh? your talking out both sides of your mouth there bub. just trying to flip to make a profit are we? your starting to sound like a punk kid.....

You are a liar, or just have me seriously confused with someone else. I have never pm'ed you. I never will. Im done talking with you. Your meds cannot touch the organic Sour Star, and Crunchberry i get from my caregiver. I help provide to other patients , I make zero profit. I only do it so that other people dont have to go to dispensaries and pay high prices for crap buds. The meds i get are much better than anything you will ever see in a dispensary. I have been going to the same caregiver for 6 years.

Go away . I will ignore you now.

[lampost]

You are a liar, or just have me seriously confused with someone else. I have never pm'ed you. I never will. Im done talking with you. Your meds cannot touch the organic Sour Star, and Crunchberry i get from my caregiver. I help provide to other patients , I make zero profit. I only do it so that other people dont have to go to dispensaries and pay high prices for crap buds. The meds i get are much better than anything you will ever see in a dispensary. I have been going to the same caregiver for 6 years.

Go away . I will ignore you now.

I remember you posting about your caregiver. I'd like to try some of those meds.

And I wish you could grow oxy's in your closet. Man, I'd be rich as hell... and high.

[palerider7777]

You are a liar, or just have me seriously confused with someone else. I have never pm'ed you. I never will. Im done talking with you. Your meds cannot touch the organic Sour Star, and Crunchberry i get from my caregiver. I help provide to other patients , I make zero profit. I only do it so that other people dont have to go to dispensaries and pay high prices for crap buds. The meds i get are much better than anything you will ever see in a dispensary. I have been going to the same caregiver for 6 years.

Go away . I will ignore you now.


this was posted by you on the 14th of sept of 09 so how could you have been going to a caregiver for 6 years? you must mean you and your caregiver have been illegally dealing for the last 6 years? the same guy you have been buying from to sell at no profit ?hummm the same guy you told me was getting flaky and you needed someone more dependable?

14th sept
Got the docs signature today. Once i showed him the xray of the plate and screws in my shoulder, it was pretty simple after that. I had my papers and went to the dispensary down the street, but their medecine was pretty low quality. I hope most dispeseries accept the papers.

[legaloutlaw]

ok first of all who the hell in their right mind is going go through all the money and time and effort to grow their own medicine and then give it away for free?? anyone who thinks that most of these "medical" dispensaries are ripping people off. ok some of the medicine at certain places is better than others but really they are the same as street prices and most of the time even cheaper. and there you know what you're getting!! why am i going to try to buy an eight off some shady guy in the park rather than going to somewhere i've been and feel safe at? i think it's great that farmers take time to grow quality medicine and are allowed to "dispense" them in various shops. the experiences ive had with people in shops is 50/50. half of the time i know more about what im looking at than they do. and the other half are real happy to help me pick out something new.
how can u complain about a law that protects sick people from prosecution when using medical mj?

i agree that most people just use it as an excuse to smoke but if anything thats good!!! one more step to legalization. and im not even sure that legalization is the key either but even if it is legal there are still going to be people that want quality stuff from people they trust and these shops will be the first place to go. so its kind of hard for me to complain about it even though prices are a bit high.

all in all. just grow your own. its fun and you'll learn a lot about plant biology. experimenting with the best payback in the end. i can't think of anything better than that. can you?

Props to you man. Well spoken. If you have the $$$, time, and paysical ablity to grow that is the best way to go. Prices will go down if every patient that has the ability to grow starts growing. I have helped 5 people get a recomendation since getting mine and only 1 other guy has started. The others just kind bitch and and complain until I show them my 2 plant setup. Save that 100$$ you just spent on a quarter and get a shit ton of cfl's and some clones and start to experminent. At least you can say you tried. And if you just can't get it at least you can go back to your fave. smoke shop. I just about to harvest my 1st crop and cannot be more proud.

[neversummer]

this was posted by you on the 14th of sept of 09 so how could you have been going to a caregiver for 6 years? you must mean you and your caregiver have been illegally dealing for the last 6 years? the same guy you have been buying from to sell at no profit ?hummm the same guy you told me was getting flaky and you needed someone more dependable?

14th sept
Got the docs signature today. Once i showed him the xray of the plate and screws in my shoulder, it was pretty simple after that. I had my papers and went to the dispensary down the street, but their medecine was pretty low quality. I hope most dispeseries accept the papers.

Yeah i been smoking weed long before i got my card. Got a felony on my record thats why i dont grow.

You are a homo, get my dick out your mouth. I dont wanna talk to your ignorant ass. Everyone on here knows you are a joke.

Seriously, my last response to you. Learn how to punctuate.

[senorx12562]

At least he admitted you're a homo-sapien, palerider, but who is Dick?

[palerider7777]

At least he admitted you're a homo-sapien, palerider, but who is Dick?

he's just mad that im calling him out on all his bs.he can't come up with nothing logical back. so only thing left is acting like a punk kid and name call.he has sum nerve to say anything about writing he misspelled a few himself.

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

I know it would be better and cheaper. Have you ever been to Amsterdam?

I learned this 10 years ago.


Actually the cost of the herb in amsterdam has jumped considerably and the quality has gone way down.

I was just in amsterdam in november for the htcc and most of the herb was B to C grade at best and it was all 13-20 euro a gram....

Even the locals in amsterdam dont bother with the coffeshops...

[diamante73]

I agree with neversummer. Please legalize it. No one deserves to be in jail for such a harmless plant.


The new slogan should be:

"RELEGALIZE MARIJUANA NOW OR CRIMINALIZE ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO!!!"

If the goverment is truly vexed about our personal health, which they have proven numerous times it is not their priority, then they need to criminalize alcohol and tobacco, the two most dangerous drugs available today.:D

That says it all.

[lampost]

Actually the cost of the herb in amsterdam has jumped considerably and the quality has gone way down.

I was just in amsterdam in november for the htcc and most of the herb was B to C grade at best and it was all 13-20 euro a gram....

Even the locals in amsterdam dont bother with the coffeshops...

I was about to say the same thing. That's like $25-$40 for a gram. Nahhh!

[senorx12562]

That says it all.
I'm sorry, but of all people, those on this site should know better than to suggest criminalizing ANY substance. Doesn't even pass the giggle test.

[neversummer]

Actually the cost of the herb in amsterdam has jumped considerably and the quality has gone way down.

I was just in amsterdam in november for the htcc and most of the herb was B to C grade at best and it was all 13-20 euro a gram....

Even the locals in amsterdam dont bother with the coffeshops...

Its not Amsterdam's fault the dollar is weak. When i went i got 2 guilders for a dollar. 13-20 euro a gram, probably is like $6-$10 from their perspective.

When i went to the cup in 99, 2000, all the weed was A grade. You need to find Soma, and smoke some of the buds he had in his closet for six months. Definatley some A grade. I smoked a lot of the strains you love, from the people who invented it.

I know a lot of people in Colorado who dont bother with dispensaries. At least the coffeshops in Amsterdam dont have to pretend they are medical , and that their "customers" are "patients." And they can smoke on premises. I guarantee if I went to Dampkring, Greenhouse, or Grey Area, they would BLOW away any Colorado dispensary. I dont remember seeing outdoor, or kiefed bud. The bubble hash from Dampkring always bubbled, and they always had it.

The problem is the dollar is tanking. Soon we will have the Amero. Say goodbye to the American economy. Especially if Obama and his communist homies have their way.

[neversummer]

I am thankful to have my card. I have used marijuana spiritually, medically, and recreationally since i was 15 years old. I just really want it to be 100% legal and affordable for everyone.

I am tired of all these crappy, overpriced dispensaries giving medical marijuana a bad name, and taking advantage of their so called patients. I am also tired of people having to pretend to be a patient, just to smoke some weed without fear of being locked in a fucking cage.

I have been locked up for weed. I have been on probation, paid fines, pissed in a cup, and quit smoking for a year. I have carried the torch, stood up for what i believe in. I have helped others get their medicine, even when they dont have a license from the government. I just want cheap, legal weed. We are so close, im not giving up. I am making the push. I have sacrificed a lot for this, and i am going to reap the rewards. I know nothing good comes free, or easy. It has been a long battle, but its almost over. I am excited to have the chance to grow marijuana LEGALLY. After getting arrested, i never dreamed i would have the chance to grow legally. I was scared to carry an eighth around. Now i feel better. I still dont see why we cant have more than 2 ounces or six plants. Thats like saying you can only buy a six pack at the liquor store.

Legalize it!

[palerider7777]

I am thankful to have my card. I have used marijuana spiritually, medically, and recreationally since i was 15 years old. I just really want it to be 100% legal and affordable for everyone.

I am tired of all these crappy, overpriced dispensaries giving medical marijuana a bad name, and taking advantage of their so called patients. I am also tired of people having to pretend to be a patient, just to smoke some weed without fear of being locked in a fucking cage.

I have been locked up for weed. I have been on probation, paid fines, pissed in a cup, and quit smoking for a year. I have carried the torch, stood up for what i believe in. I have helped others get their medicine, even when they dont have a license from the government. I just want cheap, legal weed. We are so close, im not giving up. I am making the push. I have sacrificed a lot for this, and i am going to reap the rewards. I know nothing good comes free, or easy. It has been a long battle, but its almost over. I am excited to have the chance to grow marijuana LEGALLY. After getting arrested, i never dreamed i would have the chance to grow legally. I was scared to carry an eighth around. Now i feel better. I still dont see why we cant have more than 2 ounces or six plants. Thats like saying you can only buy a six pack at the liquor store.

Legalize it!
it's called control thats why 6 plants is a joke and only 3/3 is even a bigger joke.and only having 2 useable oz's at a time is an even bigger joke.they know damn well what they are doing.first of all 3 plants is wasting electric as if you have a 1k setup lets say yes those 3 are getting most of it and thats good but you could still add more plants to that 1 k to max it out.this way you have to veg longer there for wasting electric along with all the other pumps and so on.im talking as if your growing for yourself only.

the 2 oz is a joke because they have to know that if you know what your doing you will pull more than 2 oz's off 3 plants.hell at just 1 oz per plant thats 3 right there.they had to give cops something to be able to use to bust people with. btw you should take alook at this thread.

http://boards.cannabis.com/activism/180469-bush-appointee-nominated-obama-head-dea.html#post2062904

kindda tells you where things are heading after all obama is the flip flop king.....

ps the reson liquor is like it is and so free to do as you please with is because it's leo's/gov's fav past time.can't make that illegal.

[ForgetClassC]

Have any of you guys ever heard the phrase:

Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics?





Even if you win, you're still retarded.





Maybe its food for thought......

-C

[palerider7777]

Have any of you guys ever heard the phrase:

Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics?





Even if you win, you're still retarded.





Maybe its food for thought......

-Cjust because it might sound cool don't make it true.if thats the case arguing anywhere would be the same right? sounds like freedom to me....

you might want to sign this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tznR4wPeS4M

[bigtopsfinn]

Actually the cost of the herb in amsterdam has jumped considerably and the quality has gone way down.

I was just in amsterdam in november for the htcc and most of the herb was B to C grade at best and it was all 13-20 euro a gram....

Even the locals in amsterdam dont bother with the coffeshops...

HUH?! WTF are you talking about???

I just came back from Amsterdam, I was there for 5 months, and "everything was 13-20 euros per gram" is the biggest load of BS I've heard in a long time.

Prices have risen higher and quality is now lower in Amsterdam because there are so many more fucking tourists willing to spend money and smoke shit. Go anywhere else in Holland and you get great weed for 8-10 euros per gram, maybe less... Plus since the euro came into use the price of everything has gone up (and don't compare it to the dollar right now, it wasn't that long ago that the dollar was worth more than the Euro)... apples to oranges comparing US to Europe.

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

i paid 50 euro for an 1/8 of silver bubble at grey area..... i payed 34 euro for 2 grams of vanilla kush from barneys and this was average price everywhere i went. and most of the stuff at 8-10 euro was so bad i wouldnt want my worst enemy to smoke it....:jointsmile:

[cornbread]

I've been to the Netherlands twice (Holland is a county). This news is very strange coming from Amsterdam. Years ago, a cafe owner went out of his way to explain to me that the Dutch were very picky about the quality of cannabis products that comes ashore. He even said they had recently turned away a whole cargo ship from China because of the low grade hashish onboard. Obviously, their standards have taken a hit since I've been there. I guess I lucked out and left without the schwag.

#2 post is still your best answer...:smokin:

[bigtopsfinn]

i paid 50 euro for an 1/8 of silver bubble at grey area..... i payed 34 euro for 2 grams of vanilla kush from barneys and this was average price everywhere i went. and most of the stuff at 8-10 euro was so bad i wouldnt want my worst enemy to smoke it....:jointsmile:

These are tourist coffeeshops, no wonder you didn't see any locals there.

Next time go to Dampkring or Kashmir, and 10 euros gets you very nice buds, I think 12.50 was their "top shelf". Better yet, go to Rotterdam or Utrecht.

Again, comparing Europe or Amsterdam to the US is impossible. For one, the Netherlands has significantly higher corporate wages (if we're comparing dollars to euros).

For those who don't know, Cannabis is illegal in the Netherlands! It is merely tolerated and decriminalized for small possession, and there's a fucked up law that gives coffeeshops the right to sell cannabis in small amounts. However, it is illegal for coffeeshops to purchase cannabis... yeah go figure that one out. BTW- growing is illegal too. If you are caught with 5 plants or less, they get confiscated without penalty.

Another reason for rising prices in the Netherlands is the fact that the government has been cracking down on coffeeshops (reducing in number of coffeeshops from over 1200 to now less than 800, and not giving out new licenses) as well as large grow operations for that last few years, and much of the weed that is smoked in Amsterdam and elsewhere actually comes from Germany!

Ok, rant over, the point is that there are many other factors in Amsterdam and the Netherlands which raise the prices. I believe that as long as the governments and special interests keep their hands off this industry, prices should be at least 25-50% lower in a legal establishment than on the street. But as long as medical patients and tourists are willing to dish out the cash for overpriced weed, I'll just have to grow my own :jointsmile:

[neversummer]

These are tourist coffeeshops, no wonder you didn't see any locals there.

Next time go to Dampkring or Kashmir, and 10 euros gets you very nice buds, I think 12.50 was their "top shelf". Better yet, go to Rotterdam or Utrecht.

Again, comparing Europe or Amsterdam to the US is impossible. For one, the Netherlands has significantly higher corporate wages (if we're comparing dollars to euros).

For those who don't know, Cannabis is illegal in the Netherlands! It is merely tolerated and decriminalized for small possession, and there's a fucked up law that gives coffeeshops the right to sell cannabis in small amounts. However, it is illegal for coffeeshops to purchase cannabis... yeah go figure that one out. BTW- growing is illegal too. If you are caught with 5 plants or less, they get confiscated without penalty.

Another reason for rising prices in the Netherlands is the fact that the government has been cracking down on coffeeshops (reducing in number of coffeeshops from over 1200 to now less than 800, and not giving out new licenses) as well as large grow operations for that last few years, and much of the weed that is smoked in Amsterdam and elsewhere actually comes from Germany!

Ok, rant over, the point is that there are many other factors in Amsterdam and the Netherlands which raise the prices. I believe that as long as the governments and special interests keep their hands off this industry, prices should be at least 25-50% lower in a legal establishment than on the street. But as long as medical patients and tourists are willing to dish out the cash for overpriced weed, I'll just have to grow my own :jointsmile:


That is what i have been trying to say. You just worded it better.
When i went to Amsteradam, the weed was the same price, but the exchange rate was 1$ to 2 guilders. An eighth would cost around $25-$30 and it was always super good. I never got any weed in Amsterdam with seeds, or kiefed buds. The bubble hash alway bubbled.

Soma had the best weed back then i thought, and all his stuff went to the dampkring. I dont know anyone else who cures their weed for 6 months!

[cornbread]

bigtopsfinn, that's one of the most interesting posts I've ever read about the Netherlands...Amazing that it's actually illegal...I never would have guessed...I hung at someplace called the grasshopper in the 'dam years ago...probably gone by now

[bigtopsfinn]

bigtopsfinn, that's one of the most interesting posts I've ever read about the Netherlands...Amazing that it's actually illegal...I never would have guessed...I hung at someplace called the grasshopper in the 'dam years ago...probably gone by now

Grasshopper's still there. :jointsmile:

Honestly the 'Amsterdam' that most people here are talking about SUCKS. It's a huge tourist trap, and the greedy businessmen know this, which is why everything is so expensive, and the service and weed are so shitty. The Cannabis Cup is the worst of them all. Most tourists don't make it past the Herengracht, which is actually where the real Amsterdam starts. The coffeeshops are fewer and farther between, but there are still some decent ones, and filled with locals.

Some of the best weed I had while I was there was from Steppin' Out in Alkmaar, called 'Big Tops' (not a strain, just a brand) - 12 euros for 1.7 grams. They also cure their buds for months before selling them. Also got some really nice White Widow in Rotterdam for 7 euros a gram. The best was the Amnesia Haze from Nemo in Rotterdam, 20 euros for 2 grams, and it blew me away every time. Cured, tasty and really great sativa.

If you plan on a trip to Amsterdam or the Netherlands, do your research! Coffeeshop Directory (http://www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com/index.htm). And just because it's the highest price on the menu doesn't mean it's the best. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. Always ask to see the bud first, and ask for a few different kinds to compare. And for everyone's sake don't support these greedy bastards in Amsterdam's central district!

[cornbread]

Yes...I'd have to agree it's a huge tourist trap but the American kids love the idea of buying pot everywhere.

I was buying some hash in a Amsterdam coffeeshop and the rasta dood behind the counter kept peeking out the window and around the corner. He did this 4-5 times in 3 minutes before I finally asked WTF he was doing. He said he was watching his car. Huh? Then he told me there's a HUGE car theft problem.

But there's just too much rain and junkies to go back a third time. Besides, pot is everywhere.

I'm glad I went to the Anna Frank Haus just before I left...

I lived 2 years in Switzerland and travelled around from there in central Europe. Next time I go, it's Ireland, England, and Italy for me...and back to Venice :smokin:

[stuartambient]

ps the reson liquor is like it is and so free to do as you please with is because it's leo's/gov's fav past time.can't make that illegal.

what is reson liquor ?

Stu

[diamante73]

I'm sorry, but of all people, those on this site should know better than to suggest criminalizing ANY substance. Doesn't even pass the giggle test.

Who suggested criminalizing anything at all?

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

Well to be honest, im only in the dam for 8-10 days at a time, and usually it is just to meet up with old friends and new associates. I really dont have enough time to beat down every shop door in the dam hoping to save a few euros per gram. I always bring my own weed and hash, and if i can find anything comparable in quality in the dam, ill usually grab a few grams of it... but usually the only thing i end up purchasing is melt from soma....:jointsmile::jointsmile:

[bigtopsfinn]

I really dont have enough time to beat down every shop door in the dam hoping to save a few euros per gram.

Well that's the beauty of the internet, because you don't need to go to every door if you spend some time on that link - real reviews from real people. Unfortunately the people that go to the Dam thinking that the world's best weed is around the corner are setting themselves up for failure. And from what I've read around these boards, the same holds true for US medical marijuana.

The more we talk and post about bad quality places (dispensaries, coffeeshops), the less there will be. Let's put all these $hitheads out of business by the spreading the word... and da herb :rastasmoke:

[senorx12562]

Who suggested criminalizing anything at all?

It was in the post from ColoradoCareMMJ that you quoted yourself at the top of page 3 of this thread. Didn't you read what you quoted and agreed with?

[HighPopalorum]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/01/podcast_an_economist_gets_ston.html

"Fourteen states have adopted medical marijuana laws. We talk to Harvard economist, Jeffrey Miron, about what happens when drugs move from the black market to the open market. Do they get 100 times cheaper? Or instead, more expensive? Miron talks about the economics of prohibition, and reveals his drug of choice (which is legal) and one he would like to try (which is not)."

There was an NPR piece a day or two ago regarding legalization the its effect on prices. The upshot is that most people overestimate the reduction in price that legalization would create as well as the tax revenue legalization would generate.

[Vancefish]

It was in the post from ColoradoCareMMJ that you quoted yourself at the top of page 3 of this thread. Didn't you read what you quoted and agreed with?

It's called a double standard SenorX :D. Our nations biggest hypocrisy. Everyone wants our government to "help" starving and suffering people and would happily claim support for such a program. However when asked about being taxed to help those people they are ALL against it!

In this case, people suggest criminalizing alcohol, thinking it absurd, thus not an actual suggestion on a conscious level, thus NOT believing they suggested it at all! :wtf:

I'm not trying to insult your intelligence either SenorX. I just enjoy opening eyes. When THEY read this,.. maybe THEY will realise what they said, and agreed on. Without ever realising what they said in the first place.

We should NEVER suggest more regulation in ANY way. Our government is happy to lock us up and criminalize everything. It's currently estimated that EVERY American breaks an average of 80 laws per day! :eek: However so many of our laws are buried in bureaucracy not even our police or even lawyers know them all. However if need be, almost anyone can be charged and/or ticketed for something if the need arises (in the eyes of the leos).:mad:

I think the law should simply say,... You're NOT allowed to hurt other people physically, emotionally or fiscally!:thumbsup:

If you break THE law you have a jury trial to determine your punishment.

THAT'S ALL THE LAWS WE NEED! Plus laying down a few rules for safe driving. :thumbsup: Which kills more people then just about anything.

[lampost]

I always bring my own weed and hash, and if i can find anything comparable in quality in the dam, ill usually grab a few grams of it...

Ballsy.

I guess you don't get searched too hard coming INTO the Dam! But the days of nutsack stash are coming to an end. Goddamn underwear bomber!

[Faddenator]

what is reson liquor ?

Stu

He meant to say the REASON liquor is legal... Not resin liquor lol. Although, I've had THC infused alcohol before though- it was called a tincture. Took a shot, and it tasted like crap, but the combo of the body buzz and the warm feeling of the shot was pretty nice.

I think all you have to do is soak bud in alcohol and then strain it... the alcohol strips the THC from the bud if im not mistaken. might be worth a try. :thumbsup:

[senorx12562]

It's called a double standard SenorX :D. Our nations biggest hypocrisy. Everyone wants our government to "help" starving and suffering people and would happily claim support for such a program. However when asked about being taxed to help those people they are ALL against it!

In this case, people suggest criminalizing alcohol, thinking it absurd, thus not an actual suggestion on a conscious level, thus NOT believing they suggested it at all! :wtf:

I'm not trying to insult your intelligence either SenorX. I just enjoy opening eyes. When THEY read this,.. maybe THEY will realise what they said, and agreed on. Without ever realising what they said in the first place.

We should NEVER suggest more regulation in ANY way. Our government is happy to lock us up and criminalize everything. It's currently estimated that EVERY American breaks an average of 80 laws per day! :eek: However so many of our laws are buried in bureaucracy not even our police or even lawyers know them all. However if need be, almost anyone can be charged and/or ticketed for something if the need arises (in the eyes of the leos).:mad:

I think the law should simply say,... You're NOT allowed to hurt other people physically, emotionally or fiscally!:thumbsup:

If you break THE law you have a jury trial to determine your punishment.

THAT'S ALL THE LAWS WE NEED! Plus laying down a few rules for safe driving. :thumbsup: Which kills more people then just about anything.
I guess I made the mistake of expecting of others that which I do of myself, to say what you mean and mean what you say. My bad.

[palerider7777]

I guess I made the mistake of expecting of others that which I do of myself, to say what you mean and mean what you say. My bad.

that world is gone my friend.:cool:sad but true...

[Denvertoad]

I think the law should simply say,... You're NOT allowed to hurt other people physically, emotionally or fiscally!

If you break THE law you have a jury trial to determine your punishment.

THAT'S ALL THE LAWS WE NEED! Plus laying down a few rules for safe driving. Which kills more people then just about anything.

You've got my vote. When elected can I be your Marijuana Minister... Part of the Cannabis Cabinet of President Vance? :thumbsup:

[the image reaper]

to give away 'FREE MJ', doesn't mean you are to supply the whole town :wtf: , but, if every grower just took care of a couple legitimate medical patients that can't grow their own, (like most of my circle of friends), most needs would be taken care of ... (not bad, coming from a conservative capitalist, eh ?) :smokin:

[TerribleIdea]

I didn't really know where to put this but i thought this should be considered a joke as well so here goes...

I recently found out that The Grow Stores owner (the ones located on federal and colfax) was upset with his lack of profit and teamed up with Hydrofarm to track down his theoretical losses. They found out that resourceful growers were using their connections to order their equipment through garden distribution centers and the like in a completely legal manner. The Grow Store owner ( lets refer to him as Douchy McDoucherstien from now out for ease) was upset that his wall of 400% markup ballasts that was disapearing at an alarming rate wasn't quite going fast enough. I'm talking about selling 400+ ballasts a month and tripling his initial investment. Dont get me wrong. I love to see Capitalism in action, its a disgustingly beautiful thing. The problem is that Douchy McDoucherstien went to hydrofarm to point out that many of the people using the garden centers were using them to supply a garden of an illicitly delicious nature I.E. MMJ growing. He somehow failed to mention that his resourceful institutions have somehow cornered that market through the use of a profound lack of knowledge and his employees affinity for Methamphetamines( how else do they get so shady looking?) Its interesting to me that a store that has been around for it seems like ever is having problems with its gross sales. I wonder if its due to the fact that he taxes the shit out of the consumer while selling the consumer a product supposedly designed for indoor hydroponic tomato growing. Have you seen the tomatoes grown in there store? Besides being infested with spider mites ( "Oh, This bottle of Azatrol at 109.99$ + tax will definetely cure that! MSRP being 106.95$ Price to Douchy being less then $70 Trust me i have his distrubution prices) they look like the retarded baby that would come out of the prom queen and kings consumation of their love, in the back of a Kia, after drinking Mad Dogg 20/20 through the course of her pregnancy. The worst part about it is that Hydrofarm is playing the part of the cliche' dumb older football playing brother, protecting poor Douchy McDoucherstien's precious precious profits. Is this the Communist threat that Joseph McCarthy spoke so scarily about? It seems that if other distrubution centers are fine with selling more product at a reduced price, then they should naturally pull ahead of the capitalistic curve ( Reference McDonalds slightly less then meat Hamburgers and their domination). Hydrofarm sites not wanting to "provide a legal avenue to fund production of illegal substances". Hmmmmmmm, did Romer's Bill include something about MMJ in Colorado once again being illegal? Does Douchy McDoucherstien have an uncanny ability to be able to know which persons using for "illegal" grows and which one is not? If he has, congratulations! Hes smarter then the FBI DEA and CIA combined and should definetely get a job from them locating all these terrorists in the mist.
I hope people realize that both of these companies are participating in illegally blocking a small companies or individuals right to free trade and procurement of product. Does that mean that i shouldn't give medicine to a cancer patient for cheaper to meet their struggling needs? Should I make them go to the streets for medicine because "the streets" have been here longer?
What about everyone thats griping about prices of medicine being to high? I can tell you that anyone looking to start growing is now gonna have an initial start up cost that will be at least 2 to 3 times more expensive through Douchy McDoucherstiens establishment then through a garden center's wholesale. Hmmmmmmmmm, I wonder who that cost will be passed onto? If you want to really start attacking the price of MMJ I would highly recommend looking at the starting point of taxation and to me its seems to be blowing out Douchy's ass along with the rest of the smoke.

Example:

Xtrasun 1000w Convertible Ballast Sku BAC100A:
Douchy:$237.00
Hydrofarm MSRP: $209.95
Wholesale:$106.92

Wow! $20 + dollars over MSRP. You go Douche! Hopefully that extra money will go towards making your workers even sketchier, slower, and stupider.

[cronicmonster]

[quote=the image reaper]to give away 'FREE MJ', doesn't mean you are to supply the whole town :wtf: ,
Awesome Reaper.... I actually do the same with about 5 sick friends also.. I just cant do it with everyone thats all...:)

[senorx12562]

I didn't really know where to put this but i thought this should be considered a joke as well so here goes...

I recently found out that The Grow Stores owner (the ones located on federal and colfax) was upset with his lack of profit and teamed up with Hydrofarm to track down his theoretical losses. They found out that resourceful growers were using their connections to order their equipment through garden distribution centers and the like in a completely legal manner. The Grow Store owner ( lets refer to him as Douchy McDoucherstien from now out for ease) was upset that his wall of 400% markup ballasts that was disapearing at an alarming rate wasn't quite going fast enough. I'm talking about selling 400+ ballasts a month and tripling his initial investment. Dont get me wrong. I love to see Capitalism in action, its a disgustingly beautiful thing. The problem is that Douchy McDoucherstien went to hydrofarm to point out that many of the people using the garden centers were using them to supply a garden of an illicitly delicious nature I.E. MMJ growing. He somehow failed to mention that his resourceful institutions have somehow cornered that market through the use of a profound lack of knowledge and his employees affinity for Methamphetamines( how else do they get so shady looking?) Its interesting to me that a store that has been around for it seems like ever is having problems with its gross sales. I wonder if its due to the fact that he taxes the shit out of the consumer while selling the consumer a product supposedly designed for indoor hydroponic tomato growing. Have you seen the tomatoes grown in there store? Besides being infested with spider mites ( "Oh, This bottle of Azatrol at 109.99$ + tax will definetely cure that! MSRP being 106.95$ Price to Douchy being less then $70 Trust me i have his distrubution prices) they look like the retarded baby that would come out of the prom queen and kings consumation of their love, in the back of a Kia, after drinking Mad Dogg 20/20 through the course of her pregnancy. The worst part about it is that Hydrofarm is playing the part of the cliche' dumb older football playing brother, protecting poor Douchy McDoucherstien's precious precious profits. Is this the Communist threat that Joseph McCarthy spoke so scarily about? It seems that if other distrubution centers are fine with selling more product at a reduced price, then they should naturally pull ahead of the capitalistic curve ( Reference McDonalds slightly less then meat Hamburgers and their domination). Hydrofarm sites not wanting to "provide a legal avenue to fund production of illegal substances". Hmmmmmmm, did Romer's Bill include something about MMJ in Colorado once again being illegal? Does Douchy McDoucherstien have an uncanny ability to be able to know which persons using for "illegal" grows and which one is not? If he has, congratulations! Hes smarter then the FBI DEA and CIA combined and should definetely get a job from them locating all these terrorists in the mist.
I hope people realize that both of these companies are participating in illegally blocking a small companies or individuals right to free trade and procurement of product. Does that mean that i shouldn't give medicine to a cancer patient for cheaper to meet their struggling needs? Should I make them go to the streets for medicine because "the streets" have been here longer?
What about everyone thats griping about prices of medicine being to high? I can tell you that anyone looking to start growing is now gonna have an initial start up cost that will be at least 2 to 3 times more expensive through Douchy McDoucherstiens establishment then through a garden center's wholesale. Hmmmmmmmmm, I wonder who that cost will be passed onto? If you want to really start attacking the price of MMJ I would highly recommend looking at the starting point of taxation and to me its seems to be blowing out Douchy's ass along with the rest of the smoke.

Example:

Xtrasun 1000w Convertible Ballast Sku BAC100A:
Douchy:$237.00
Hydrofarm MSRP: $209.95
Wholesale:$106.92

Wow! $20 + dollars over MSRP. You go Douche! Hopefully that extra money will go towards making your workers even sketchier, slower, and stupider.
I guess I'm thick, but I can't figure out what the hell you are talking about. This store owner went to Hydrofarm to get them to do what? And that affects us how?

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

to give away 'FREE MJ', doesn't mean you are to supply the whole town :wtf: , but, if every grower just took care of a couple legitimate medical patients that can't grow their own, (like most of my circle of friends), most needs would be taken care of ... (not bad, coming from a conservative capitalist, eh ?) :smokin:

Well, unfortunaly for every 1 grower there is 100 people who arent growing... dispensaries are a much needed enitity in this universe, and by the way i give away 8-20 ounces a month FREE.....so dont for a minute point the greed finger at me.

[neversummer]

Went to a place today in breck. They had "Asteroid" kush for $75 an eighth plus tax. How is that medical? It looked and smelled really good, but that is just unaffordable, and profiteering. They also had a security "guy" and cameras. Their selection was nice. But $75 an eighth is a joke. I pay $75 a quarter from my caregiver. The guy had the nerve to ask me to make him my caregiver, and get a price break. Why would i make someone my caregiver who is trying to charge me $75 an eighth otherwise? Not a good strategy. I think if you give people good deals all the time, they are more likely to make someone their caregiver. They did give me a free gram for being a first time patient, and had a really nice selection and nice strains. But $75 an eighth is crazy!

[senorx12562]

Went to a place today in breck. They had "Asteroid" kush for $75 an eighth plus tax. How is that medical? It looked and smelled really good, but that is just unaffordable, and profiteering. They also had a security "guy" and cameras. Their selection was nice. But $75 an eighth is a joke. I pay $75 a quarter from my caregiver. The guy had the nerve to ask me to make him my caregiver, and get a price break. Why would i make someone my caregiver who is trying to charge me $75 an eighth otherwise? Not a good strategy. I think if you give people good deals all the time, they are more likely to make someone their caregiver. They did give me a free gram for being a first time patient, and had a really nice selection and nice strains. But $75 an eighth is crazy!
Please explain to me the relationship between "medical" and price, keeping in mind that I just got a bill for $20,000.00 for my son's broken clavicle. Are you fucking insane? In fact, please explain to me the relationship between "medical" marijuana and ANYTHING other than a legal definition based totally upon whether the consumer went and lied to a doctor to get a recommendation. It has NOTHING to do with reality. Cannabis is cannabis. There is no such thing as "medical" marijuana, any more than there is such a thing as "affordable" housing. You're a putz.

[neversummer]

Please explain to me the relationship between "medical" and price, keeping in mind that I just got a bill for $20,000.00 for my son's broken clavicle. Are you fucking insane? In fact, please explain to me the relationship between "medical" marijuana and ANYTHING other than a legal definition based totally upon whether the consumer went and lied to a doctor to get a recommendation. It has NOTHING to do with reality. Cannabis is cannabis. There is no such thing as "medical" marijuana, any more than there is such a thing as "affordable" housing. You're a putz.

I just think medical marijuana should be affordable. How can someone take a medicine that is unaffordable. My quality of life would significantly improve if all of my money wasnt spent on medicine. A bottle of aspirin doesnt cost $50. I have $10,000 in hopital bills, so i know that hospitals aint cheap.

I understand why black market drugs cost $50 an eighth. Legal medicine that grows out of dirt, shouldnt cost so much.

SenorX, if you dont understand where im coming from, you are the putz. And so is anyone that charges or pays $75 an eighth for "medical" marijuana.

In my opinion, medical marijuana should be affordable to the patient. We shouldnt have to pay heroin prices.

[senorx12562]

I just think medical marijuana should be affordable. How can someone take a medicine that is unaffordable. My quality of life would significantly improve if all of my money wasnt spent on medicine. A bottle of aspirin doesnt cost $50. I have $10,000 in hopital bills, so i know that hospitals aint cheap.

I understand why black market drugs cost $50 an eighth. Legal medicine that grows out of dirt, shouldnt cost so much.

SenorX, if you dont understand where im coming from, you are the putz. And so is anyone that charges or pays $75 an eighth for "medical" marijuana.

In my opinion, medical marijuana should be affordable to the patient. We shouldnt have to pay heroin prices.
You DON"T "have to" pay "heroin prices" or any other price you don't want to. And if enough people chose not to pay the $75 these people want, I assure you the price would come down, or the product would become unavailable. That's the way the market works.

Are you suggesting that no one should be "allowed" to charge prices you think are too high, just because it's "medicine?" They GAVE YOU FREE WEED, FERCHRISAKES, ( oh, sorry, "medicine") What exactly are you complaining about? They should sell their product for whatever the market will bear. What a whiner.

[cronicmonster]

In my opinion, medical marijuana should be affordable to the patient. We shouldnt have to pay heroin prices.

Simple....When you are at the dispensary buy "lower grade"meds ! Please either grow your own or lower your standards.
I really think if you grew your own ....once...you might understand why prices are as they are:smokin:

[Balkey]

Simple....When you are at the dispensary buy "lower grade"meds ! Please either grow your own or lower your standards.
I really think if you grew your own ....once...you might understand why prices are as they are:smokin:

I don't quite understand your logic. Growing is easy. Takes in reality, not much time to tend to (depending on which process you're using) and as he's stated $75 an eighth is $600 an ounce. Say you grow 4 plants for 3 months (1 month veg, 2 month flower) and you already have all the gear you need (lights, pots, etc.). You yield possibly 2 ounces a plant (total = 8 ounces). That's $600 an ounce x 8 =$4800 for 3 months of hardly any work. Most definitely can be done while working full time and can be done many times during the year.

I just don't understand. How is growing marijuana worth that much? And that's only one grow, with 4 plants. IMO no marijuana strain is worth that kind of money. NONE. :wtf:

[neversummer]

You DON"T "have to" pay "heroin prices" or any other price you don't want to. And if enough people chose not to pay the $75 these people want, I assure you the price would come down, or the product would become unavailable. That's the way the market works.

Are you suggesting that no one should be "allowed" to charge prices you think are too high, just because it's "medicine?" They GAVE YOU FREE WEED, FERCHRISAKES, ( oh, sorry, "medicine") What exactly are you complaining about? They should sell their product for whatever the market will bear. What a whiner.

Im just saying that im not paying $75. I think its ludarchris to charge that much. Anyone who pays that much is an idiot, or rich. Its just a plant, not an iphone. I know how the market works, i have been running my own restaurant for 6 years. I know if i tried to sell a pizza for $75, my customers would laugh and go down the street. I also take pride in having the best, and cheapest pizza in town, delivered hot to your door. We are in a deprression right now, and i am trying to give back to the community by providing affordable food, and not trying to gouge people.

[neversummer]

I don't quite understand your logic. Growing is easy. Takes in reality, not much time to tend to (depending on which process you're using) and as he's stated $75 an eighth is $600 an ounce. Say you grow 4 plants for 3 months (1 month veg, 2 month flower) and you already have all the gear you need (lights, pots, etc.). You yield possibly 2 ounces a plant (total = 8 ounces). That's $600 an ounce x 8 =$4800 for 3 months of hardly any work. Most definitely can be done while working full time and can be done many times during the year.

I just don't understand. How is growing marijuana worth that much? And that's only one grow, with 4 plants. IMO no marijuana strain is worth that kind of money. NONE. :wtf:

Thats my mentality. It only costs $50 an eighth because it was illlegal. More people are going to start growing, see how easy it is, and then the prices will drop to $100 an ounce.

[neversummer]

Simple....When you are at the dispensary buy "lower grade"meds ! Please either grow your own or lower your standards.
I really think if you grew your own ....once...you might understand why prices are as they are:smokin:

This has to be the worst advice ever. I will never lower my standards.

[senorx12562]

This has to be the worst advice ever. I will never lower my standards.
Then don't bore us with your whining. Buy it or don't. You want a Porsche at Chevy prices. I want a Ferrari for free. Ain't gonna happen, but at least I don't complain about it. Grow up.

[lampost]

Im just saying that im not paying $75. I think its ludarchris to charge that much. Anyone who pays that much is an idiot, or rich. Its just a plant, not an iphone. I know how the market works, i have been running my own restaurant for 6 years. I know if i tried to sell a pizza for $75, my customers would laugh and go down the street. I also take pride in having the best, and cheapest pizza in town, delivered hot to your door. We are in a deprression right now, and i am trying to give back to the community by providing affordable food, and not trying to gouge people.

I believe its "ludacris". LMAO!

Just grow bro. Get started for what you'd pay for an oz and put these crooks out of business! Anyone who gives up caregiver rights to a dispensary is not thinking.

[neversummer]

Then don't bore us with your whining. Buy it or don't. You want a Porsche at Chevy prices. I want a Ferrari for free. Ain't gonna happen, but at least I don't complain about it. Grow up.

Get off my dick.

Im tired of people selling chevy's at porsche prices. I get top quaility meds for $40, im calling out greedy people trying to charge $75. I dont want other people getting ripped off.

Im tired of you following me around. If you want to pay high prices, or defend people that do, you are an idiot.


You are the one stupid enough to go to the worlds best grower seminar.

[senorx12562]

Oh, gee I'm sorry. You caught me following you around. How did you find me out? You sure have an inflated sense of your own importance. And you correctly identified me as a dumbass too. Very impressive. Your pretty obsessed with your dick, too. Congrats on the trifecta. I bow to your obvious superiority.

[neversummer]

Please explain to me the relationship between "medical" and price, keeping in mind that I just got a bill for $20,000.00 for my son's broken clavicle. Are you fucking insane? In fact, please explain to me the relationship between "medical" marijuana and ANYTHING other than a legal definition based totally upon whether the consumer went and lied to a doctor to get a recommendation. It has NOTHING to do with reality. Cannabis is cannabis. There is no such thing as "medical" marijuana, any more than there is such a thing as "affordable" housing. You're a putz.


Here is the definition of "medical" marijuana

Medical Marijuana: The emerging science of applying marijuana's beneficial side effects to an individual patient's needs while minimizing the undesirable side effects on that patient's life.

One of the most undesirable side affects for me is being broke all the time. As a matter of fact, its the only undesirable side affect. In order to minimize the undesirable side effect of being broke all the time, I need to find good quality medicine at an affordable price. I smoke 2-3 grams a day. If i could get down to spending $10-$20 a day, my quality of life would go up. Doesnt matter, because now I am legal to grow my own for free, and provide affordable medicine for my friends. Just a matter of time, and space.



You just got owned

[neversummer]

I have to be honest that im a little disturbed by your comment. I have put everything into this shop, I work 12-14 hour days, and im just barely covering my bills. Me and my team work extremely hard to bring quality affordable medicine to paitents and we have 8ths as low as 38 dollars WITH TAX. Everyone loves to villify the dispensary owner like were all making millions of dollars....but hell, 99% of my patients drive a nicer car then me....

The reason you may be treated the way you do, is because the majority of patients out here are very new to strain names and indica/sativa dominant hybrids and sometimes need a little extra help finding what suits them best. Ive lost three friends to this fight and they are my driving force to ensure that people like themselfs need not suffer when access is so readily available. Im not a doctor or a scientist, im a cannabis cultivator who comes from a place of caring.

Have a great wednesday fellas, life is meant to be enjoyed!!!

-Bryan.:jointsmile:

Your shop is actually my favorite right now, and one of the only 4 or 5 that i will actually go into. I can see that you care, it is evident in your product and personality. I have told my friends in Denver about your place and they LOVE IT! I had fun scratching with Blake too. Too bad shops like yours are few and far between. I wish the best to CCF, and hope you guys have a long and prosperous venture.

[neversummer]

Then don't bore us with your whining. Buy it or don't. You want a Porsche at Chevy prices. I want a Ferrari for free. Ain't gonna happen, but at least I don't complain about it. Grow up.


Ouch. If you knew me, you would know that i am that last person asking for charity. I bust my ass at work, and have always been a hard worker. I have been paying $300 an oz for organic sour diesel and durban for 5 years. I figured now the medical industry in Colorado is booming, and there are tons of LEGAL growers out there, that prices would drop. I spend around $600 a month on medecine, thats almost as much as my rent. I could easily smoke twice that too.

The problem with most dispensaries is that they dont grow their own. You shouldnt even have a dispensary if you dont grow a lot of good medecine. . If i was buying a pound of weed, i would want a good break too. 4k doesnt sound low at all, even for the best organic strains of medicine. 4k is a lot of cash to spend at once. I work at a pizza restaurant and we dont even spend 4k a week on food right now. We usually charge 3 to 4 times what we pay for food. If a large pizza costs $2.00 in food, we sell it for $10.00. That is what a dispensary that doesnt grow their own would need to do if they want to make a profit.

Marijuana is about to be completely legal. I never thought i would see that happen in my lifetime, but right now, i believe it will. Then it shouldnt cost anymore than any other plant or vegetable. I cant wait until i have the space to grow my own. After having a felony conviction for distribution of marijuana, i didnt think i would ever want to risk growing. Now, 5 years later, i got my medical card, and the felony is dropped off my record. I cant wait untill i have the space to grow my own medicine legally. Then i can just trade it with my friends, or sell them quarters for $50 like the good ol days.