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gypski
01-26-2010, 04:26 PM
I always thought this Tea Party stuff wouldn't go too far. Seems they've been fooled again too. But, we need election laws that finance 3rd parties just as equally as the dominant two. If your interested, cut and pasted from the NY Times to save from a crawler link. :D

Tea Party Disputes Take Toll on Convention

By KATE ZERNIKE
Published: January 25, 2010

A Tea Party convention billed as the coming together of the grass-roots groups that began sprouting up around the country a year ago is unraveling as sponsors and participants pull out to protest its expense and express concerns about ??profiteering.?

The convention??s difficulties highlight the fractiousness of the Tea Party groups, and the considerable suspicions among their members of anything that suggests the establishment.

The convention, to be held in Nashville in early February, made a splash by attracting big-name politicians. (Former Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska is scheduled to deliver the keynote speech.) But some groups have criticized the cost ?? $549 per ticket and a $9.95 fee, plus hotel and airfare ?? as out of reach for the average tea partier. And they have balked at Ms. Palin??s speaking fee, which news reports have put at $100,000, a figure that organizers will not confirm or deny.

Tea Party events exploded last winter, as increasingly large gatherings protested the federal stimulus bill, government bailouts and proposed health care legislation. While they vary by name, specific tenets and relative embrace of anarchy, such groups tend to unite around fiscal conservatism and a belief that the federal government ?? whether led by Republicans or Democrats ?? has overstepped its constitutional powers.

Tea Party Nation, the convention organizer, started as a social networking site for the groups last year, a kind of Facebook for conservatives to ??form bonds, network and make plans for action.? But its founders, former sponsors and participants are now trading accusations.

Philip Glass, the national director of the National Precinct Alliance, announced late Sunday that ??amid growing controversy? around the convention, his organization would no longer participate. His group seeks to take over the Republican Party from the bottom by filling the ranks of local and state parties with grass-roots conservatives, and Mr. Glass had been scheduled to lead workshops on its strategy.

??We are very concerned about the appearance of T.P.N. profiteering and exploitation of the grass-roots movement,? he said in a statement. ??We were under the impression that T.P.N. was a nonprofit organization like N.P.A., interested only in uniting and educating Tea Party activists on how to make a real difference in the political arena.?

Mr. Glass said he was also concerned about the role in the convention of groups like Tea Party Express, which has held rallies across the country through two bus tours, and FreedomWorks, a Tea Party umbrella. He called them ??Republican National Committee-related groups,? and added, ??At best, it creates the appearance of an R.N.C. hijacking; at worst, it is one.?

Erick Erickson, the editor of the influential conservative blog RedState.com, wrote this month that something seemed ??scammy? about the convention. And the American Liberty Alliance withdrew as a sponsor after its members expressed concerns about the convention??s finances being channeled through private bank accounts and its organizer being ??for profit.?

??When we look at the $500 price tag for the event and the fact that many of the original leaders in the group left over similar issues, it??s hard for us not to assume the worst,? Eric Odom, the executive director of the American Liberty Alliance and an organizer of the tax day rallies last April, wrote on the group??s Web site.

Sherry Phillips, who founded and runs Tea Party Nation with her husband, Judson, said Monday that it is not a nonprofit group.

Ms. Phillips said the American Liberty Alliance was ??a for-profit company that takes donations.? The National Precinct Alliance, she said, demanded compensation of around $3,000. ??Our budget on this convention is very tight and we could not afford them,? she wrote in an e-mail message.

She declined to comment on Ms. Palin??s speaking fee.

??If there is any profit,? Ms. Phillips said, ??the money will go toward furthering the cause of conservatism.?

Mr. Glass denied that his group had requested money and said convention organizers had asked his group to pay $2,200 to speak.

As for FreedomWorks, it is not a convention sponsor. Tea Party leaders in training sessions at the group??s headquarters on Monday said their members, for the most part, could not afford the convention or were not interested.

An earlier version of this article erroneously said that Sherry Phillips called the Tea Party a "nonprofit" group.

RedLocks
01-26-2010, 05:03 PM
the red text is burnt into my retinas..

yokinazu
01-29-2010, 10:58 PM
so does this mean no more tea-baggers. i just love the fact they call them selves tea-baggers.(giggle-giggle).

boaz
01-29-2010, 11:49 PM
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A Tea Party convention billed as the coming together of the grass-roots groups that began sprouting up around the country a year ago is unraveling as sponsors and participants pull out to protest its expense and express concerns about ??profiteering.?
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:jointsmile: damn profiteers. :S3:

Islandborn
01-30-2010, 12:46 AM
Coming apart? Those folks are just getting started......they just arent going to some corporate sponsored event. Its going to be held in a seperate location....you'll see. Ill post info when they release it next week. There is gonna be a ton of media and having sponsored company names takes away from the point and gives finatics like Maddow and Olbermann ammo. Some BIG shit is coming.

Islandborn
01-30-2010, 12:51 AM
There is alot of....attempted infiltration going on.....that movement is making the powers that be very nervous....because they are beating Obama, Rahm, Axelrod, and their bff's Big Buisness and the Unions at their own game. The Hackers arent gonna stop, main street aint gonna stop, and the independent vote aint coming back no matter what they do.

gypski
01-30-2010, 01:38 AM
Anybody or group that endorses Sarah Palin for president is/are a bunch of fucking lunatics. :S2: And Michele Bachman too. :silly: And you claim Obama to be terrible. :joint1: Makes a person wonder what strain you've been smokin'. :D

Islandborn
01-30-2010, 01:59 AM
Sarah Palin? ummmmmmm, those were planned speakers.....not candidates for office? I dont know if you know this....but there is no "leader" of that movement.....and its planned that way. Do you even know what the tea party folks want? Keep hating on em if ya want.....thats how they got sooooooo powerful.....duh. Their plans and the reactions its caused have worked just like Alinsky said....funny.

boaz
01-30-2010, 04:26 AM
how about that dude from Mass in that took Kennedy's seat in 2012. the dude drives a truck, how bad can he be? :jointsmile: just put a dog in the front seat and he's all set. but I said the same thing about Palin at first, well, she hunts, how bad can she be? just kidding, she is okay I just don't see the apeal, I thought fox had some kinda hidden agenda by pushing her but I guess they were just promoting her new show. those damn greedy bastards. :pimp:

gypski
01-30-2010, 05:04 AM
Sarah Palin? ummmmmmm, those were planned speakers.....not candidates for office? I dont know if you know this....but there is no "leader" of that movement.....and its planned that way. Do you even know what the tea party folks want? Keep hating on em if ya want.....thats how they got sooooooo powerful.....duh. Their plans and the reactions its caused have worked just like Alinsky said....funny.

I don't see where there is hate for the Tea Party. Who ever wants to be a part of some group that wants to appear patriotic, be my guest. Many of such sounding money grubbing groups are appearing. Families for this, Americans for that, what a crock. They are not a real party and never will be one. Time will tell how long before they fade away. and what influence they have. :D

Islandborn
01-31-2010, 02:56 PM
thats what Im saying......this loose association of like minded people who believe in SMALL FEDERAL GOVT and low taxes isnt attempting to become a actual political party. People FROM that movement are infiltrating LOCAL govt.s.....NOT forming a political party. Here is one example gleened from news around the nation. Clearly this reporter is doing his homework.

Tea Partiers aim to remake local GOP | cincinnati.com | Cincinnati.Com (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100130/NEWS0108/1310329/1055/NEWS/Tea+Partiers+aim+to+remake+local+GOP)

Note the state this is from........

Islandborn
01-31-2010, 03:06 PM
how about that dude from Mass in that took Kennedy's seat in 2012. the dude drives a truck, how bad can he be? :jointsmile: just put a dog in the front seat and he's all set. but I said the same thing about Palin at first, well, she hunts, how bad can she be? just kidding, she is okay I just don't see the apeal, I thought fox had some kinda hidden agenda by pushing her but I guess they were just promoting her new show. those damn greedy bastards. :pimp:

Murdoch is a media Genius.....

Islandborn
01-31-2010, 05:29 PM
how about that dude from Mass in that took Kennedy's seat in 2012. the dude drives a truck, how bad can he be? :jointsmile: just put a dog in the front seat and he's all set. but I said the same thing about Palin at first, well, she hunts, how bad can she be? just kidding, she is okay I just don't see the apeal, I thought fox had some kinda hidden agenda by pushing her but I guess they were just promoting her new show. those damn greedy bastards. :pimp:

Talking about Brown jackin that seat......here is a interesting article showing just how close the socialist wing of the Democrats got to forcing welfare healthcare on everyone.

Harkin: Health deal was reached days before Brown's Senate victory - TheHill.com (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/78889-harkin-health-deal-was-reached-days-before-browns-victory)

They exposed Obama and themselves FAR to early as welfare babies looking for handouts from hardworkers. Here's some change bitches.....this is just the beginning of a looooooooooooong losing election year for the party of big buisness, illiterate unions and Hollywood.:pimp:

boaz
02-02-2010, 03:03 AM
Talking about Brown jackin that seat......:pimp:

:thumbsup: This guy seems really cool, to me. I'm not talking about weed, no clue on his position about that (my guess it its up the States to decide), but I watched the Baba Wawa interview with this guy and I agree with pretty much everything he said.

I'm not really a repub myself, per sey :rastasmoke: , but I could support a Scott Brown repub. I like the whole truck story even better now that I actually know what it is. I guess he pretty much lived in his truck while driving all over the state to meet the people. :smokin: i've done that. :pimp:

Thank you, Mass, for that critical 41'st vote we needed to put Congress back in clusterfuck mode, where it belongs! :D

And he is a weekend warrior.

:s4:

dubkakes
02-25-2010, 03:51 AM
Dude you guys want to support the tea party movement! how big of stoners is everyone if they can't even rally behind the one hope of real change. fuk sarah palin and the republican party they'll fall to the way side if we support the movement. Ron Paul basically created the movement for god sake, seriously look into the tea party yourselfs, dont take it from this nazi. WE WANT A LIMITED REPUBLICAN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NOT A SOCIALIZED GOVERNMENT. it's the entire reason we created the great states< LOOK IT UP. its the only way we can possibly expect weed to be made legal

Islandborn
02-26-2010, 11:47 PM
Ron Fuckin Paul had nothing to do with organizing those town hall gatherings last Aug. dude....ron paul...scoff. That guy has zero chance of winning a national election....do you remember his EMBARASSING preformance at the '04 debates? Guy is a clown and his opinions on national security are laughable. He better find himself a fill in straight up. C-PAC has always been a tad more libertarian and the straw poll means jack-shit except not exposing a leader until RIGHT before the campaigns starts.....a planned strategy.

On a real note.....the Brits are holding Teaparty gatherings now....so Tea party falling apart??? Not likely.....its just gathering strength to pummel the socialists outta office in Nov. Wait for it cause its coming....washington knows this.

boaz
02-27-2010, 12:57 AM
....the Brits are holding Teaparty gatherings now....

:stoned: really? does anyone else the irony of that? :rastasmoke:

RedLocks
02-27-2010, 12:16 PM
:stoned: really? does anyone else the irony of that? :rastasmoke:
**raises hand**

Islandborn
02-27-2010, 03:32 PM
True that.....regardless....Gotta support the cause wherever it is. Small Federal Govt, smaller taxes.

Just outta curiousity.....what would happen if say.....20,000 people decided all at once to destroy, dismantel, or blur every cctv they came across in London? Fun situation to ponder.

boaz
02-27-2010, 03:39 PM
...Gotta support the cause wherever it is. Small Federal Govt, smaller taxes. ...

amen to that, brother. the era of the big centralized gov't seems to be dieing out quickly all over our rock. :)

Islandborn
02-27-2010, 03:49 PM
I hope so.....look at the type of policies Greece has had in place......and look at Greece.

here is a funny ass video from this week in Venenzuela......Chavez in the middle of a Bush bashing rant has the power go out..... classic.

Ch?¡vez se queda sin luz en pleno discurso - El Nuevo D*a (http://www.elnuevodia.com/chavezsequedasinluzenplenodiscurso-678052.html)

My wife& family are from latin america and follows her native nations news and translates for me......video speaks volumes.

I only post alot of threads because I believe there is alot of young minds around here who would NEVER see or be exposed to anything except what the MSM puts out or what their "friends" say is happening.

boaz
02-27-2010, 03:59 PM
that is classic about Chevez, I'll have to watch that later tonight, its sounds hilarious. IB, I gotta ask, what is MSM? do you mean MSNBC? if so, yeah, I absolutely agree, what piece of work that station is. MSM is a process that keeps popping up the background on my notebook, I just shut it down with all the other MS crap. :rastasmoke:

Islandborn
02-27-2010, 04:15 PM
MSM is the Mainstream Media outlets we all grew up with. MSNBC is a league all to their own now.

boaz
02-27-2010, 08:03 PM
ooohhh, . . . doh! :D I like Bernie Goldberg's new name, the Lame Stream Media, or maybe LSM. :jointsmile:

kknight
02-28-2010, 04:53 AM
Lol, taking the NY Times as a credible source is ludicrous, especially an opinion on the Tea Party movement. Consider David Rockefeller's thanking of the Times for....


We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." -- David Rockefeller

gypski
02-28-2010, 05:12 AM
60 Tea Party leaders flown to Washington to be trained in election activism by FreedomWorks, the conservative advocacy organization led by Dick Armey, the former House Republican leader. Yeah, the same Dick Army who aided and abetted the same policies that brought this country to the position its in now financially. Like I even give the faintest thought of joining this group of sheep. :D

boaz
02-28-2010, 01:11 PM
^ really? :stoned:

while I do support many of the ideas that these activist seem to be protesting for this whole movement does seem to have been hijacked by the usual cast of characters.

I would much rather see all this energy being used more locally, that is take back the authority from this illegal centralized federal gov't that has emerged over this past few decades and put that authority where it belongs; locally. :twocents: just starve the beast. :)

killerweed420
02-28-2010, 06:01 PM
^ really? :stoned:

while I do support many of the ideas that these activist seem to be protesting for this whole movement does seem to have been hijacked by the usual cast of characters.

I would much rather see all this energy being used more locally, that is take back the authority from this illegal centralized federal gov't that has emerged over this past few decades and put that authority where it belongs; locally. :twocents: just starve the beast. :)
Yep the repubs are trying hard to either hijack or demonize the tea party.
Tea Partiers aren't republicans, they tend to be conservatives or closer to libertarians. They do want to put the feds back in there place and allow there states to be run locally.

boaz
03-01-2010, 01:11 AM
^ true that, KW. :greenthumb:

gypski
03-01-2010, 07:41 AM
What is the official Tea Party Platform or policy concerning medical marijuana or marijuana legalization? With Dick Armey and his ilk running the training classes, you can bet your ass its not positive. And you can bet your ass that the hypocrite Palin has burned the bush more then once coming from Alaska.:D