View Full Version : Do you think most dispensaries know how much an ounce weighs?
weekapaug74
01-26-2010, 12:26 AM
I'm guessing they don't.
moody420
01-26-2010, 12:43 AM
I would think that they do since it's pretty much common knowledge that an oz. is 28 grams. If you think you are being shorted, I would suggest finding another club and maybe reporting them. They are supposed to make sure patients are getting their medicine not ripping people off!
redtails
01-26-2010, 11:55 AM
Who knows, for the longest time I thought an oz was 30 grams because I always got a little extra in there...
funkfingers
01-26-2010, 04:56 PM
One ounce is equal to 28.34952 grams. It's just easier for people to make them weigh 28 grams..
rudy2010
01-26-2010, 05:05 PM
Most folks say an ounce is 28 grams. But if you do the math that comes to just 448 grams which is not a pound.:stoned: A pound is much closer to 454 grams so a true ounce would way a little over 28 grams.:smokin: If you buy a pound you should expect to get 454 grams. If you buy an ounce you should just expect the 28 gram standard. This also divides nicely for halves and quarters and leaves an 1/8 at 3 1/2 grams. Considered to be generally fair.
Delta9Caregivrs
01-26-2010, 05:11 PM
Is this thread serious? I mean whats the point? Of course a disp will know what a oz weighs.... my question is WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? starting a thread like this is idiotic...
Weekend
01-26-2010, 06:53 PM
Most folks say an ounce is 28 grams. But if you do the math that comes to just 448 grams which is not a pound.:stoned: A pound is much closer to 454 grams so a true ounce would way a little over 28 grams.:smokin: If you buy a pound you should expect to get 454 grams. If you buy an ounce you should just expect the 28 gram standard. This also divides nicely for halves and quarters and leaves an 1/8 at 3 1/2 grams. Considered to be generally fair.
28oz-112qp-224hp-448lb on the street....only way you get 454 is when you buy in bulk(20+) & thats because the big scales only read lbs, so they dont get it down to the gram.
the more you learn, the more you know
rudy2010
01-26-2010, 06:55 PM
Be nice to your budtender and they may give you a few extra grams. As you can tell it is not an exact science.
Yo Delta9 smoke a fatty looks like you could use a little mellow right now.:smokin:
weekapaug74
01-26-2010, 10:48 PM
Is this thread serious? I mean whats the point? Of course a disp will know what a oz weighs.... my question is WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? starting a thread like this is idiotic...
The first two responses to this thread were not correct.
I have a feeling that if I bought an ounce at your establishment then I would only get 28 grams.
But your idiotic response just helped me decide never to go to Delta9. I'll spend my money with caregivers and dispensaries who aren't negative jerks.
frostedwonder
01-26-2010, 10:51 PM
Yeah chill on the hostility. I am sure that he posted that to stress his dissatisfaction with what he purchased nothing more.
I would say only you can be your best advocate when it comes to many things,,,medication and medical related issues especially. I would never buy something that doesn't seem right to you or it is your fault if you do. You didn't call a caregiver out on here so not sure why the hostility (guilt eating you Delta?)but when in doubt put the green on my scale or there will be no sale.:jointsmile:
lampost
01-26-2010, 11:27 PM
28.4 is what i always used to get before dispensaries...
cornbread
01-27-2010, 05:26 AM
Not guilt...frustration
With the biz, they're finding there's no consistancy in product, they had to borrow $ to start (usually from mom and dad), security, constant threat of burglary, laws about to change, lots of 18 year old males, police driving by, competition from other dispensaries, etc.
A lot of dispensaries are finding it's a lot harder to run than the "get rich quick" scheme they had in mind
Then they put a buzz on and it's even worse...:smokin:
neversummer
01-27-2010, 06:25 AM
I bought an eighth today, half bubba kush, half chemdawg. I got home and weighed it, each half only weighed 1.5 grams. So i got an eighth that only weighed 3 grams. I called the place back and let them know. There was a new girl working, and i dont think she knew how much an eighth weighed.
Im still pissed. Hopefully when i go back they will make up for it. Where do they find these idiots that work at these places. Most of these people dont know shit about weed. I knew an eighth was 3.5 since 9th fucking grade.
I swear 99 percent of these dispensaries are garbage. If you are running a MEDICAL buisness, then ACT like it.
cornbread
01-27-2010, 07:48 AM
It doesn't help anyone if you don't mention the dispensary who robbed you.
I suspect a lot are shaving some off the top for themselves.
They know most likely you have no accurate scale (but you did).
Then when you phone these places, they're usually so fucked up, they can hardly speak. One girl denied they were having a special over and over again when it was right on their front page or their website.
neversummer
01-27-2010, 08:18 AM
It doesn't help anyone if you don't mention the dispensary who robbed you.
I suspect a lot are shaving some off the top for themselves.
They know most likely you have no accurate scale (but you did).
Then when you phone these places, they're usually so fucked up, they can hardly speak. One girl denied they were having a special over and over again when it was right on their front page or their website.
It was Medical Marijuana of the Rockies in Frisco. Im going to give them the benifit of the doubt, and assume the girl thought an eighth was 3 grams. Im gonna go back there tomorrow and talk to them.
rudy2010
02-17-2010, 06:28 PM
I was just wondering how it went with the 3 gram 1/8. That is about a full joints worth. This is significant loss for a single 1/8.
denverbear
02-17-2010, 07:32 PM
for those that would like to check thier weight on thier medicine go to harbor frieght and get thier small scale for about 19.00 bucks and you will never be guessing again if you where given the proper weight..this works quite well.
lampost
02-17-2010, 07:41 PM
Yeah, .1 g digis are pretty cheap at headshops nowadays too. Maybe $20. These work great too.
Or you can get one of those old school postage hang scales for a under $5 at any office supply store or headshop. But those aren't very accurate.
denverbear
02-17-2010, 07:50 PM
Yeah, .1 g digis are pretty cheap at headshops nowadays too. Maybe $20. These work great too.
Or you can get one of those old school postage hang scales for a under $5 at any office supply store or headshop. But those aren't very accurate.
I looked at some of the digital scales at the head shops and felt they just wanted to rip me off so I found a nice alternative at harbor freight...but any digital is better then no digital for sure.
GratefulMeds
02-17-2010, 08:24 PM
I still weigh my Z's at 1 to 2 gr's over, always have always will. Shorting people on weight is always bad business.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
canaguy27
02-17-2010, 10:35 PM
Amazon.com: Fast Weigh M-500 Digital Pocket Scale 500 X 0.1 Gram: Electronics (http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Weigh-M-500-Digital-Pocket/dp/B000P1NYE8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1266446083&sr=8-2)
For $2.60, this one does the job.
COzigzag
02-17-2010, 11:17 PM
State of Colorado - Office of Economic Development and International Trade (http://www.colorado.gov/oed/industry-license/350IndDetail.html)
Colorado Department of Agriculture
Measurement Standards Lab
3125 Wyandot St.
Denver , CO 80211
(303)477-4220
If selling a product by weight, a Weights and Measures License is required. Inspection and calibration of scales fee: depends on capacity of scale. If business includes the selling, servicing, or repair of certified scales then a license is required. License fee is $250 for a 5-year license.
Inspectors take random samples of packages in stores, warehouses and manufacturing plants and count, weigh or measure the contents to see if the labeled quantity is accurate.
The Measurement Standards Section also tests scanner pricing accuracy at retail locations throughout the state, with verification at the checkout stand of posted prices on signs, shelf tags and advertisements.
Kartel
02-18-2010, 12:13 AM
State of Colorado - Office of Economic Development and International Trade (http://www.colorado.gov/oed/industry-license/350IndDetail.html)
Colorado Department of Agriculture
Measurement Standards Lab
3125 Wyandot St.
Denver , CO 80211
(303)477-4220
If selling a product by weight, a Weights and Measures License is required. Inspection and calibration of scales fee: depends on capacity of scale. If business includes the selling, servicing, or repair of certified scales then a license is required. License fee is $250 for a 5-year license.
Inspectors take random samples of packages in stores, warehouses and manufacturing plants and count, weigh or measure the contents to see if the labeled quantity is accurate.
The Measurement Standards Section also tests scanner pricing accuracy at retail locations throughout the state, with verification at the checkout stand of posted prices on signs, shelf tags and advertisements.
Nice post!!!
I worked in a chemistry lab for a few years, and feel like I know my way around a scale. Someone needs to offer these shops a one hour class or something!
Delta 9 is guilty of this ignorance too; it may not be one of their current employees.... but it just seems they should be supportive of the dissemination of functional information irregardless. :smokin:
I'd say an easy majority of shops are not aware of the grams they lose when someone sells them a 112 g qp.
copobo
02-18-2010, 12:36 AM
yea, back in the day we used to say...
you can argue quality and seed count all day, but not weight.
TheReleafCenter
02-18-2010, 07:10 PM
Just to correct a little misinfo in here, a dispensary cannot apply for a weights and measures license. We tried, talked to a very gruff lady named Lisa, came away with nothing.
We don't weigh a true 1/8th, but we also list our prices at 3.5 grams, 7 grams, etc, so you know what you're purchasing. And we ALWAYS weigh over to account for any calibration issues, moisture or big stems. And our scales have both front AND back displays, so you can watch us weigh out everything, which is something you should ask of your dispensary. And we weigh to order, never ahead of time.
That 3 gram eighth is harsh though, damn. You get a reeferund?
canaguy27
02-18-2010, 09:56 PM
ask them to put a nickel on the scale. they weigh 5 grams.
Vancefish
02-18-2010, 10:20 PM
ask them to put a nickel on the scale. they weigh 5 grams.
Aye, this is how we always used to check out little hangy postal scales, back in the day! :thumbsup:
rudy2010
02-19-2010, 03:39 AM
That is at least honest and those are the de facto standards. I once got a lb that weighed 448 grams including a brown paper regular grocery store bag. That bag weighed over an ounce. I went back and received a refund.
Kartel
02-19-2010, 04:07 AM
28oz-112qp-224hp-448lb on the street....only way you get 454 is when you buy in bulk(20+) & thats because the big scales only read lbs, so they dont get it down to the gram.
the more you learn, the more you know
Up to 134lbs with .1g accuracy!!:thumbsup:
A&D GP-61K - 61,000g x 0.1g Balance - Precision Weighing Balances (http://balance.balances.com/scales/143)
PufferLungs
02-20-2010, 08:21 PM
For as long as I've been smoking weed (22+ yrs) it's always been:
3.5g per 1/8
7g per 1/4
28g per oz
448 per pound
That's not TRULY accurate because we all know a pound weighs 453.59237g - google to the rescue.
Somebody already mentioned why you get a full pound when you're buying in bulk quantities. Because pot in those quantities is weighed on scales with 1lb increments or maybe even 1 ounce increments and those are going to be calibrated for a full (real) pound.
The reason it's always been weighed out based on 448g in the marijuana market - is because that divides up easy.
448 / 4 = 112g per QP
112g per QP / 4 = 28g per oz
28g per oz / 4 = 7g per 1/4
It just makes the math easy.
Some of you are right that it's really 453.59237 grams per pound and an ounce should weigh 28.3495 grams if we want to be 100% accurate.
But I ask you-- Is 0.3g per ounce really that much to you? 1/3 of a gram in an ounce?
IMO everybody is technically right - but it's such an insignificant amount that I wouldn't worry about it. I haven't worried about it for 22yrs and I'm not suffering for it.
Relax smoke a fatty. :jointsmile:
COzigzag
02-27-2010, 02:10 AM
Just to correct a little misinfo in here, a dispensary cannot apply for a weights and measures license. We tried, talked to a very gruff lady named Lisa, came away with nothing.
You may wish to call them again. Here is the email I received on Feb. 26, 2010:
To whom it may concern:
In response to your question regarding a scale license for a medical marijuana dispensary, any scale that is used to determine charge based upon a weight and price per pound or other unit of weight would fall under the weights and measures licensing requirements. A scale used solely for the purpose of packaging uniform sized containers of commodities (e.g. 2 oz, 4 oz, etc. packages) might not be required to be licensed.
Furthermore, any scale used to determine a charge based upon weight must have a National Type Evaluation Program (NTEP) Certificate of Conformance issued for the device. Any device used commercially (to determine a charge) that does not have an NTEP certificate, will be in violation of state law.
Feel free to contact me if you have further questions.
Nicholas A. Brechun
Measurement Standards Program Administrator
303-867-9232
Kartel
02-27-2010, 04:25 AM
You may wish to call them again. Here is the email I received on Feb. 26, 2010:
To whom it may concern:
In response to your question regarding a scale license for a medical marijuana dispensary, any scale that is used to determine charge based upon a weight and price per pound or other unit of weight would fall under the weights and measures licensing requirements. A scale used solely for the purpose of packaging uniform sized containers of commodities (e.g. 2 oz, 4 oz, etc. packages) might not be required to be licensed.
Furthermore, any scale used to determine a charge based upon weight must have a National Type Evaluation Program (NTEP) Certificate of Conformance issued for the device. Any device used commercially (to determine a charge) that does not have an NTEP certificate, will be in violation of state law.
Feel free to contact me if you have further questions.
Nicholas A. Brechun
Measurement Standards Program Administrator
303-867-9232 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting303-867-9232end_of_the_skype_highlighting
:thumbsup: Beautiful!!!! Thank you.
Notice that "legal for trade" scales cost considerably more than the head shop scales most dispensaries use.
GratefulMeds
02-27-2010, 09:19 PM
everyone should just weigh their sacks a little heavy. this makes the customer very pleased when they see they got a heavy sack, it's really not a big hit for the provider ( we are not weighing powders here folks), I think it's a win win.
lampost
02-27-2010, 10:58 PM
everyone should just weigh their sacks a little heavy. this makes the customer very pleased when they see they got a heavy sack, it's really not a big hit for the provider ( we are not weighing powders here folks), I think it's a win win.
^I agree and that's one of the reasons you guys are at the top!
You guys liberally toss some buds on the scale and don't molest them. I've gotten over 5-gram 1/8ths at your place before. It is a really pleasing feeling!
It's frustrating to see some of these budtenders pick apart your buds until they hit exactly 3.50 grams. Is that extra 0.2 - 0.3 grams gonna kill ya? And is it worth molesting my buds and and breaking them up?
I think most places in Denver are kinda stingy like this... there's some that advertise fat sacks of course. Once in awhile when I'm a regular at a place they'll toss me fat sack occasionally or something...
budsndrums
03-07-2010, 03:51 PM
^I agree and that's one of the reasons you guys are at the top!
You guys liberally toss some buds on the scale and don't molest them. I've gotten over 5-gram 1/8ths at your place before. It is a really pleasing feeling!
It's frustrating to see some of these budtenders pick apart your buds until they hit exactly 3.50 grams. Is that extra 0.2 - 0.3 grams gonna kill ya? And is it worth molesting my buds and and breaking them up?
I think most places in Denver are kinda stingy like this... there's some that advertise fat sacks of course. Once in awhile when I'm a regular at a place they'll toss me fat sack occasionally or something...
You are right lampost - I bought some edibles and a gram from herbal connections - the woman said "I have one gram left of this 'Hawaiian', it is over a gram but we wont worry about that". So I get it home, break it up, and I counted TWELVE seeds in that one gram :wtf:, I still have them in a jar... Granted this was a few months ago, but still.. - Hell I even examined it before I left (as much as you examine a gram baggie anyway) and you absolutely could not tell there were seeds. Live and learn I guess - didn't go back as really not worth my gasoline to drive back to bitch about a gram of seeds
PufferLungs
03-07-2010, 11:49 PM
I wouldn't be all that happy about a bunch of seed either. But you gotta consider - you just got the genetics. If it was good stuff, I wouldn't be too awful unhappy about it.
If you're not growing, somebody you know will probably plant those seeds just to see how they turn out. Bargain those seeds off for a sack or two when it's all finished.
ColoradoCareMMJ
03-27-2010, 04:13 PM
ok guys ....I know Im noob here but none the less...Ive been struggling with these dam dispencerys for some time now and I came up with some rules of thumb I never stray from.
1. Never pay or accept a bag uless it has been weighed on the counter in front of you start to finish...make them zero the try...most common mistake plus doing so will save you a return trip and a dispute cause you know they will claim it was weight.
2. Radio shack sells a x 100 hand held microscope for 12 and some change as well as a z 30 loop for 7 and change....PPl....always mic your stuff before purchase....alot of commercial growers and dispencerys like to sift or tuble the buds to collect the keefe. this reduces the over all medicinal propertys of the buds by mining the thc from the surface offten leaving more plant matter then medicine. reduces the duration of it effects as well becusse there is less diliverable medicine to be had. under the x 100 it is very easy to notice mined buds....tri combs in the scope are obviously gone.
I know all this seems very anal but when you have a wife whos always in pain and you buy some shit weed one day thta dosent help her it starts to be a very nessasery practise and the way i see it its our money and we should get what we pay for and any lagit place will have no problem letting you do these things before you buy....I use c-3 up on 93rd and fedral...they always have a great attitude and have even let me borrow there mic and have always re weighed for me if I request or at the counter per my request and never ever given me chit for it...it is the only one that has willingy let me do this without hassel and needless to say the ones who complained were left with a bag on the counter and my money left with me....good luck ppl
Here at CCF we always weigh medicine right in front of our patients. The majority of our medicine is grown in-house so we always maintain quality across the board. We also keep a large luminated magnifying glass on our medicine counter available for all patients to inspect (or admire:jointsmile:) the medicine. We stand behind all of our cannabis and are one of the few dispensaries that will refund your medicine if it does not suit your needs.
We offer all patients to stop by and give us a chance to be one of your favorite dispensaries. All new patients recieve a 10% discount and a free edible.
We update our on-line menus consistently to ensure that our patients (and potential patients:jointsmile:) can always check what we currently have in-stock. All of our medicine is always insured indoor organic and grown with love.
Have a great day Colorado!! -Bryan :jointsmile:
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