Plant update: Opinions?

[Faddenator]

My apologies if this is in the wrong section. I just wanted to post my latest pictures and get your opinions on how they're looking.

I posted a picture of each individual plant, and all three. 5 cfl's (4x27W, 1x42W) and 2x32W tube flourescents are being used.

All three plants randomly started to flower on their own at completely different times.. no idea why.

Tell me what you think! thanks!

[Shovelhandle]

That looks real good

[Faddenator]

That looks real good

Thanks for the kind words. I seriously doubt they would be anywhere near as pretty without the help I've been getting here. Thanks to anyone who has helped out.

Quick shout out to Rusty Trichome and Bigtopsfinn for giving me lots of info and quick responses. Thanks so much.

Ill post pics and a smoke report once that first one is dried and cured! (looking like it will only be another week or two until harvest!) :thumbsup::jointsmile:

[jakester]

Ill post pics and a smoke report once that first one is dried and cured! (looking like it will only be another week or two until harvest!) :thumbsup::jointsmile:If those are recent pictures I would say you have a lot more than a week left. Don't get chop happy and then waste all your hard work.

[bigtopsfinn]

Glad to help :thumbsup:


If those are recent pictures I would say you have a lot more than a week left. Don't get chop happy and then waste all your hard work.

^^Yup. CFL's are painfully slow in both veg and flower. Those babies still need some time until they really fatten up and fill in.

Looking forward to seeing the finished product :jointsmile:

[wingedson]

Those look lovely, what is the strain? Indica dominant?

[Faddenator]

If those are recent pictures I would say you have a lot more than a week left. Don't get chop happy and then waste all your hard work.


Glad to help :thumbsup:


^^Yup. CFL's are painfully slow in both veg and flower. Those babies still need some time until they really fatten up and fill in.

Looking forward to seeing the finished product :jointsmile:

Haha, I thought someone might say that. I'll definitely wait it out. Thanks:jointsmile:


Those look lovely, what is the strain? Indica dominant?

Im pretty sure the most mature one is sativa dominant because of the broader leaves (do i have that backwards?). The tall skinny one with itty bitty popcorn buds i believe is indica dom. and the bushy one with no flowers looks like a pretty even mix.

No way for me to be sure though, it's all bag seed.

[Faddenator]

By the way, I'm planning on harvesting all these at completely different times. I wouldn't chop a plant unless the trichomes tell me to. they're getting pretty thick on the mature looking one. ill take a better pic of the buds on that one and post it tomorrow.

Thanks again for the heads up.

[superskunk1]

looking great FAD, were they autoflowering or just some bagseed that supprised you?

will be checking back in soon good luck and i hope you get a great yeild

[jakester]

Im pretty sure the most mature one is sativa dominant because of the broader leaves (do i have that backwards?). The tall skinny one with itty bitty popcorn buds i believe is indica dom....Yep, backwards.

[Faddenator]

Thanks for the replies. Here's some pot porn of the top cola! :thumbsup:

sorry its sideways, and the file size is pretty big. But seeing each individual trich = awesome :jointsmile:

[Faddenator]

looking great FAD, were they autoflowering or just some bagseed that supprised you?

will be checking back in soon good luck and i hope you get a great yeild

I can't imagine the mature one (first pic of the four) is not an autoflower. I fucked up the light schedule early in vegetation (16/8 instead of 18/6) but only for a day or two. Unless that threw it into flowering, it must be auto flower.

I must say it was damn surprising to see how these grew. I could only control the flowering of one of the plants haha. All the rest somehow started while still on 18/6.

While it on my mind, I want to share that I wont be attempting any more grows until I have proper equipment. Im sick of CFLs. until I can manage to set up a proper room, proper lighting, and proper nutes, I do not feel Im am being productive with this setup.

This forum has really opened my eyes to what I want/need to do. Money is the main issue. I'll most likely take this opportunity to study growing really hard and reinforce everything i've learned. I can't even express through text how excited i am to do this thing right.

Thanks a lot, everyone. stay high. :jointsmile:

[superskunk1]

yea i understand what you mean by CFL's. Thats how i am doing my grow but i just bought a 400w kit from HTG supply for $170.

I dont know what your bugdet is but i think its well worth it. And after i had installed, it not to sound crazy, but i did see a difference in about 2hrs.

[Faddenator]

yea i understand what you mean by CFL's. Thats how i am doing my grow but i just bought a 400w kit from HTG supply for $170.

I dont know what your bugdet is but i think its well worth it. And after i had installed, it not to sound crazy, but i did see a difference in about 2hrs.

I completely believe you. Considering a 400W HPS puts out like 50,000 lumens, and considering my 200 watts worth of CFL's puts out about 12,000 lumens... I can see why there would be an immediate change.

I'm in a considerable amount of debt right now, and have been getting hours cut at work... It's not a wise time for me to drop $300-400 on a brand new set up (I'm not settling for just the light). But I'm pisspants excited for when I CAN afford it! :D:D:D

[caregiver420]

In many ways a florescent bulb is actually far less efficient than a pressurized gas lamp. This is difficult to explain and doesn't mean we shouldn't all use florescent bulbs for tons of uses for which they are more energy efficient. When a Photometrist measures the ratio between the total luminous flux emitted by a device and the total amount of input power (called the LES, or "Luminous Efficacy of a Source" that's: efficacy, NOT efficiency) they find that florescent lights create somewhere along the lines of 46-72 lumens/watt while a high pressure sodium bulb will produce 85-150 lumens/watt. This translates into an luminous efficiency (NOT efficacy) of 8-11% for the fluorescent and 12-22% for a pressurized sodium bulb. This is not a luminosity-in-one-spot measurement, it's based on the ratios determined from how that light reading changes through space and reflection.

It is hard to explain how this applies to the CFL versus HPS decision for a grower, but it has a lot to do with the penetration power of the light, as well as the power of direct vs. reflected light from the source. As long as you have a thinner canopy with fewer buried/shaded leaves, you're going to get more result with less power usage with LEDs or CFLs. As soon as you are trying to penetrate a dense canopy or throw the light a long distance from its source, you're going to need something like a gas bulb to see results from increased power usage.

Your grow looks to be at about the limit of where a florescent lit space will be more power-efficient than a similarly producing (grams/watt/cubic-foot) grow using gas bulbs. If you ever decide to pump a bunch more power into the space in hopes of getting more yield, you should do it in the form of a pressurized gas lamp or two instead of more CFLs. As for now, I see nothing but sweet sweet lung candy.

Keep up the good work! :rasta:

[moody420]

it looks real good....but i would wait a while longer before you cut them. They will shrink up substantially when drying....just my 2cents :jointsmile:

[Faddenator]

Thanks Caregiver, I plan on completely re-working my space to better suit an HPS setup. Ideally I'll split my closet right down the middle and make a fake wall or something along those lines (I have a huge closet).

And thanks to you too, Moody, I'm definitely going to give it some more time. The buds have been getting bigger and bigger, but recently have seemed to stop getting any bigger. Trichomes are starting to get thicker (There's already about 15-20% more than two days ago).

I'm using the trichome coloration method to harvest, so I shouldn't be off on when I cut. Obviously i wont be cutting all of them, just the developed one.

Right now, they're crystal clear. I'm looking for a active, cerebral, headie high, so I'll be harvesting as soon as the trichs go cloudy.

Are there any reasons I shouldnt harvest when the trichs tell me to? I'd much rather have a small amount of perfect smoke than more of late harvest smoke. Plus I've heard waiting too long can cause them to go hermie.

Either way, I'm pretty confident this stuff will turn out great. Sooooo excited! :thumbsup:

[Faddenator]

Took a couple more pics today... some of the trichs are getting cloudy (might be hard to tell from these pics, but im sure of this) so I'm planning on cutting in a few days! (1st and 2nd pic)

Anyways! popped off a tiny little piece of the plant yesterday because there was one little male flower hanging from the bottom of this particular nug. Kinda freaked me out so I just cut it out. No big deal, I'd rather be safe then sorry.

Also im happy to announce that my next plant has started to produce trichs already! (3rd pic) should be nice and fuzzy come harvest :thumbsup:

anyways, enjoy:jointsmile:

[bigtopsfinn]

Looks simply delish :jointsmile:

[Faddenator]

Looks simply delish :jointsmile:

Thanks BT.

Quick question for ya(or anyone really). Like I mentioned, I cut a little bit off bud off early cause of the male flowers that were popping up. It has this really strong smell of wet grass/crap. I know they don't smell the best right off the plant, but I'm worried about my flush.

I haven't used nutes in two weeks... but the problem is i've been letting the soil dry out a lot (I heard that dry conditions increase resin production, it made sense to me) so I've only watered twice in the last two weeks. Is that enough to flush? I plan on watering real good one more time before I cut her.

whatcha think?

[bigtopsfinn]

I flush with 3 times the water in relation to the size of the bucket 2 weeks before harvest, as many others do. If you're worried about, go ahead and flush now like this, they should dry up again in a week. Anyways I've harvested the day after watering, just takes a little longer to dry them. Not sure if drying them out in the last week really increases trich production or if it's just another urban myth.

As for the grassy smell, that's the remaining chlorophyll (more like borophyll! sorry, couldn't resist :D) which goes away after drying and curing, nothing to do with the flush.

[Faddenator]

I flush with 3 times the water in relation to the size of the bucket 2 weeks before harvest, as many others do. If you're worried about, go ahead and flush now like this, they should dry up again in a week. Anyways I've harvested the day after watering, just takes a little longer to dry them. Not sure if drying them out in the last week really increases trich production or if it's just another urban myth.

As for the grassy smell, that's the remaining chlorophyll (more like borophyll! sorry, couldn't resist :D) which goes away after drying and curing, nothing to do with the flush.

Shiiiiit. All I did was water regularly, just without nutes. looks like I have a week to go haha. I'm gonna just let these couple gallons of water hit room temp, and I'll flush them asap, I'm thinking I'll just do 5-6 gallons today (they're in 2.5 gal buckets). I should run all this water through at once, correct?

should I assume that the underline on curing means most of the chlorophyll goes away while curing?

Sorry about all these random flushing questions, Im just sooooo close to finishing and I don't want to screw it up (again)! Thanks :jointsmile:

[bigtopsfinn]

Shiiiiit. All I did was water regularly, just without nutes. looks like I have a week to go haha. I'm gonna just let these couple gallons of water hit room temp, and I'll flush them asap, I'm thinking I'll just do 5-6 gallons today (they're in 2.5 gal buckets). I should run all this water through at once, correct?

should I assume that the underline on curing means most of the chlorophyll goes away while curing?

Sorry about all these random flushing questions, Im just sooooo close to finishing and I don't want to screw it up (again)! Thanks :jointsmile:

No problem:jointsmile:

Run the water through at one time. You'll probably have to water and wait, water and wait, etc. while it drains. And yes, the curing will get that chlorophyll smell and taste out more than just drying. http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/53657-drying-curing-courtesy-soft-secrets.html, http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/60954-drying-curing-your-buds.html

[jakester]

Thanks Caregiver, I plan on completely re-working my space to better suit an HPS setup. Ideally I'll split my closet right down the middle and make a fake wall or something along those lines (I have a huge closet).

And thanks to you too, Moody, I'm definitely going to give it some more time. The buds have been getting bigger and bigger, but recently have seemed to stop getting any bigger. Trichomes are starting to get thicker (There's already about 15-20% more than two days ago).

I'm using the trichome coloration method to harvest, so I shouldn't be off on when I cut. Obviously i wont be cutting all of them, just the developed one.

Right now, they're crystal clear. I'm looking for a active, cerebral, headie high, so I'll be harvesting as soon as the trichs go cloudy.
:Don't cut AS SOON as they go cloudy. Give em a week or two to cloud up more or less completely. Believe me, any less is a complete waste of the grow. I am not one of the "wait till 50% amber" wackos but I have done my share of "look it's cloudy cut it down" harvests and they ALWAYS disappoint.

[Faddenator]

Don't cut AS SOON as they go cloudy. Give em a week or two to cloud up more or less completely. Believe me, any less is a complete waste of the grow. I am not one of the "wait till 50% amber" wackos but I have done my share of "look it's cloudy cut it down" harvests and they ALWAYS disappoint.

Thanks Jake. :jointsmile:

Looks like I have no choice in the matter haha. I'd like to flush her and let her soil completely dry up (about a week or so) before I cut her. I just smoked the buds I ended up clipping a couple days ago today, and I see exactly what you mean. I will be waiting haha.

And Bigtops, thanks as usual. :thumbsup:

Random question, just for fun: I picked up some bud called Trail Mix today. Anyone heard of it? Sounds kinda made up, but the smoke is great.

[MonkeyBone]

Thanks Jake. :jointsmile:

Looks like I have no choice in the matter haha. I'd like to flush her and let her soil completely dry up (about a week or so) before I cut her. I just smoked the buds I ended up clipping a couple days ago today, and I see exactly what you mean. I will be waiting haha.

And Bigtops, thanks as usual. :thumbsup:

Random question, just for fun: I picked up some bud called Trail Mix today. Anyone heard of it? Sounds kinda made up, but the smoke is great.

Waiting is the key for best harvest. But not too long!

Trail mix, reminds me of nut mixes... :D

:thumbsup: