UA on 1/27/10 850am!!!!!

[PEPE503]

what up my fellow green brothers LOL so heres my dilema Ive been on probation almost 3 yrs but due to my good behavior was only ua'ed once (the first day of probation and i was clean).i have been on unsupervised probation since So for about a year now ive indulged in the greenery :) So i got a call to report to probation office on the 27th. i havent smoked since 1/7/10 that day i rolled 3 fatty dank blunts and havent smoked since.
Im 5'8'' weigh about 155lbs in pretty good shape no six pack abs but no beer belly either im a size 30 waist ( i dunno if that helps any)
So since 1/10/10 ive been going to gym to run/sauna etc and drink water consistantly. Im just nervous i have read the dilution stickys and am starting to practice but any tips etc or reassuarance lol

i will be 20 days clean when i go see PO i dunno if ill even get tested but i would like to go prepared you know SORRY FOR LONG ASS POST THX

[PEPE503]

why doesnt anyone respond!!! :(

[webdox]

Because you didn't really ask any questions. You asked for tips which can be found in the dilution sticky you mentioned. Sauna and drinking lots of water every day aren't part of it. Sweating does not equal burning fat. It's not a good way to rid the body of THC. Since you cannot flush THC out of your system, anything you drink in the days leading up to a test means nothing either. Since no one can tell the future, no one knows if you will be clean in the 20 days you have. Like everyone else is told, buy a home test and check yourself with your first morning void.

[PEPE503]

I did buy a few at home tests from walgreens failed one with morning piss! Ive been going to gym to work out ive been doing about 45min cadio work. running/cycle and swimming etc i use the sauna i dunno why but it might help.
my plan is to use dilution method today i started taking creatine so if i do get UAed i wont be under but HOW MUCH CREATINE SHOULD I BE TAKJNG? i was thinking 5g a day? Anyone know?

[Deige]

I did buy a few at home tests from walgreens failed one with morning piss! Ive been going to gym to work out ive been doing about 45min cadio work. running/cycle and swimming etc i use the sauna i dunno why but it might help.
my plan is to use dilution method today i started taking creatine so if i do get UAed i wont be under but HOW MUCH CREATINE SHOULD I BE TAKJNG? i was thinking 5g a day? Anyone know?

You probably should take the recommended dosage, taking too much will have you spending most of your time on the toilet. You can also pick up some metamucil, this will help you to excrete some thc through your colon. As webdox stated the sauna and sweating will not rid you of thc, but your on the right track with the cardio. Just follow the dilution sticky and practice practice practice.

[PEPE503]

yeah alright thanks guys for responding. Anyone about my size 5'8'' 155lbs before quitting 1/8/10 i smoked daily about 3-4 bowls of preety good greens

(oh yeah i did buy metamucil to about a week ago )

could you kinda tell me if possible how much fluids you drank??
i drank a gallon in about 3 hours with 4 super B vitamins but it looked a lil to diluted. i only have to test kits left and i ran out of $$$ im saving one for day of PO meeting so i only have one more to work with to try and get my dilution right.

on day of PO meet i will take the aspirins and stuff but i dunno ive never really been UAed so i dont know what to expect thanks.

[PEPE503]

sorry for so many questions but does anyone know if taking zinc sulfate night before and morning of test helps? i read on another post here i think that it helped???

[nomore420]

First, I want to explain that everything I am writing is based upon my own experience, but it is recent experience, and I can assure you that my information is 100% accurate...Before I started, I thought there was absolutely no way I would pass, but I did, and it seems like you have just enough time that you can pass too...Just follow Deige's advice and the N2 Dilution sticky to the letter...and practice, practice, practice


I did buy a few at home tests from walgreens failed one with morning piss!

I bought about 50 adulteration strips and 50 THC test strips from drugteststrips (hopefully the links below still work)
Marijuana Drug Test | Home Drug Test | Drug Testing Kit (http://www.drugteststrips.com/Single-Test-Panel-c-258.html)
http://www.drugteststrips.com/Adultrant-Test-c-273-pr-16181.html

It's more than just passing the THC immunoassay test by dilution, but also making sure you don't over dilute, which can be tricky, depending on how high your levels are...I was testing myself on a daily basis and it took me about a week to get the process down just PERFECT...and i'm talking real perfect, where my color wasn't too neon yellow (too much B2 or Vitamin C), my creatinine clearance was in the normal range and my specific gravity was just right, and still dilute enough to pass with a light line...you have to practice or you probably Will Not pass...


Ive been going to gym to work out ive been doing about 45min cadio work. running/cycle and swimming etc i use the sauna i dunno why but it might help.

Make sure about 3 days before you go to take your test, you go into hybernation mode by stopping all physical activity (get real lazy), eat a bunch of really fatty foods, and also start taking about 3-5 teaspoons of metamucil each day, throughout the day, as this will help pass some of the metabolites through the stool, reducing levels slightly in the urine (every little bit helps).



my plan is to use dilution method today i started taking creatine so if i do get UAed i wont be under but HOW MUCH CREATINE SHOULD I BE TAKJNG? i was thinking 5g a day? Anyone know?

I know from experience that I started by loading up with 25g (5 teaspoons) per day, spread throughout the day, and then after 3 days, I kept the level at 15 grams until 2 days before the test, when I upped the level to 30 grams...

also, keep in mind that while the increased fiber (metamucil) and creatine might cause some mild diarrhea, according to everything I have studied, this will result in extra metabolites being redirected to the stool, which is a good thing...just don't overdo it and you should be fine....

GOOD LUCK!:thumbsup:

[nomore420]

yeah alright thanks guys for responding. Anyone about my size 5'8'' 155lbs before quitting 1/8/10 i smoked daily about 3-4 bowls of preety good greens

(oh yeah i did buy metamucil to about a week ago )

could you kinda tell me if possible how much fluids you drank??
i drank a gallon in about 3 hours with 4 super B vitamins but it looked a lil to diluted. i only have to test kits left and i ran out of $$$ im saving one for day of PO meeting so i only have one more to work with to try and get my dilution right.

on day of PO meet i will take the aspirins and stuff but i dunno ive never really been UAed so i dont know what to expect thanks.

I am 5'8" / 225lbs with a somewhat slow metabolism...to get my color, creatinine levels and specific gravity just perfect, I followed the N2 dilution sticky EXACTLY...to be even more precise:

First thing in the morning, like really early, I would drink 2 8-oz glasses of water, and hten another 8-oz every 15 minutes for the first hour (64 oz total), just like in the dilution sticky. At this point, I would take 14 mg of Vitamin B2 (that was how much was in my multi vitamin), as well as 1000 mg of Vitamin C...then, I would start drinking Gatorate, between 4--6 oz every 15 minutes (basically, each 'mouthful' for me is right around 2 oz, so I would take three good-sized swigs of gatorade every 15 minutes). After a couple weeks, I noticed that I only needed to take 2 good sized swigs to pass with a solid negative line...

Also, after taking the Vitamin C and B2, it would take about 2.5 hours for me to start peeing yellow, but the yellow was not too neon, which is as bad as peeing yellow as it's like a marker...DO NOT take too much B2 and Vitamin C, experiment and get it right...if you follow the dilution sticky and know how much water to drink for color and adulteration tests, you should be able to figure out your exact levels within a few days or so...

Aspirin doesn't help...niacin doens't help...NOTHING helps...vinegar doesn't help, etc., etc., etc....HOW DO I KNOW???? I was freaking out for three weeks and TRIED EVERYTHING, and I know more about my urine now than I ever wanted to know...and all I can tell you is keep it simple...just follow the N2 Dilution sticky EXACTLY, except substitute gatorade for water...if you practice you will be fine...good luck! you have plenty of time...

one last thought..i weigh much more than you, and probably smoked at LEAST as much as you do/did, maybe more, and I was able to get passing negative after 3 weeks WITHOUT dilution...but I still used dilution with 4 oz or water every 15 minutes and passed with flying colors!

good luck!:thumbsup:

[PEPE503]

nomore420 thanks for the post im a try to order the online test strips today hope they come in time. today im a bust my ass at gym and just eat hella creatine i bought some creatine capsules form GNC supposedly ea. pill contains 2.5g of creatine so im a munch on them like skittles lol if i spend the night on the toilet lol screw it THX for the posts the more you guys reply im starting to calm down cuz it seems im doing the right thing and im trying to get N2's method down im super happy my boss is cool about herb cuz im at the office peeing like crazy trying to get my color and fluid intake right LOL THX PEEPS

[PEPE503]

does vitamin B2 work better then super B complex???

3 weeks i hope i get similar results the day before my meeting im a pee morning and test myself to see were i stand if i still fail im a use dilution but im trying to be prepared for worst case you know thx for all replies once this is all over im a smoke the fattest blunt in your guys honor lol for helping me :)

[nomore420]

does vitamin B2 work better then super B complex???


Look on the ingredients of the Super B Complex and see how much B2 is in the pill...it's the B2 that colors your Urine, and the other ingredients in the B Complex are just other B vitamins that will do NOTHING for your color... The only two water soluable vitamins that I know will help you get the color you need are B2 and Vitamin C...the exact amount you need will vary based upon your own body, but generally speaking, you will need around 15 mg of B2 and 1000 mg of Vitamin C, which should take about 2 hours to start coloring your urine and should last for about 6--8 hours to help color your urine.

[Deige]

Look on the ingredients of the Super B Complex and see how much B2 is in the pill...it's the B2 that colors your Urine, and the other ingredients in the B Complex are just other B vitamins that will do NOTHING for your color... The only two water soluable vitamins that I know will help you get the color you need are B2 and Vitamin C...the exact amount you need will vary based upon your own body, but generally speaking, you will need around 15 mg of B2 and 1000 mg of Vitamin C, which should take about 2 hours to start coloring your urine and should last for about 6--8 hours to help color your urine.

Great posts man, you should stick around the drug testing forums we can always use more help.:thumbsup:

[nomore420]

Deige,

I am going to stick around and help others (making sure I only post comments from home, not the office). I honestly feel that if I can even help one person pass a test and save them some of the stress, then it's worth my effort. Nobody should have to be subjected to this type of scrutiny, but the fact is that such is the world we live in. Therefore, I am going to stick around just to make sure there's at least one more voice of reason sharing good information and dispelling the myths! I waited to start posting anything until I was certain of the outcome of my test, but after my nearly 1-month ordeal, I can honestly say that I know just about all there is to know about dilution (thanks in part to N2 and in part to the 50 tests I gave myself over a 4-week period).

But I still wish I had just listened to you and subbed, LOL...woulda saved myself TONS Of stress! Anyway, thanks for the invite to continue with my contributions...

[PEPE503]

for sure man your input has helped. im feeling more confident towards meeting my po next week :) thanks nomore420
i checked my super B complex pills theyre "spring valley" brand and contain 20mg of b2 among a bunch other b vitamins

[Deige]

Deige,

I am going to stick around and help others (making sure I only post comments from home, not the office). I honestly feel that if I can even help one person pass a test and save them some of the stress, then it's worth my effort. Nobody should have to be subjected to this type of scrutiny, but the fact is that such is the world we live in. Therefore, I am going to stick around just to make sure there's at least one more voice of reason sharing good information and dispelling the myths! I waited to start posting anything until I was certain of the outcome of my test, but after my nearly 1-month ordeal, I can honestly say that I know just about all there is to know about dilution (thanks in part to N2 and in part to the 50 tests I gave myself over a 4-week period).

But I still wish I had just listened to you and subbed, LOL...woulda saved myself TONS Of stress! Anyway, thanks for the invite to continue with my contributions...

I know what you mean, the stress alone is enough to give anyone gray hair immediately. I'm like you though, I would rather use my own urine for the test because subbing can be quite nerve racking. Especially the first time... I was shaking so bad I could hardly write my name on the collection papers. I get nervous using my own urine when I know its clean. I guess it's just stage fright lol. Anyway congrats on passing and we would be glad to have you around.

[nomore420]

for sure man your input has helped. im feeling more confident towards meeting my po next week :) thanks nomore420
i checked my super B complex pills theyre "spring valley" brand and contain 20mg of b2 among a bunch other b vitamins


i checked my super B complex pills theyre "spring valley" brand and contain 20mg of b2 among a bunch other b vitamins

Pepe, 20mg of B2 is PLENTY...i've read so many posts where people pop like 5 or 10 B2 pills and I can't even imagine how neon-yellow their urine must have been...a sure red-flag that someone is trying to dilute...

Another bit of advice that may help...just keep in mind that the B2 makes your urine bright yellow, while vitamin C makes your urine slightly orange...what i found is that the perfect balance between the slightly orange (vitamin c) and the bright-yellow (b2), combined with adequate dilution (between 4-6 oz or fluids every 15 minutes) makes the color almost a perfect 'straw' yellow that looks VERY natural...trust me, if you take one of your b vitamins, add in 1000 mg of vitamin c and follow the dilution sticky perfectly, NOONE would suspect your color as being diluted...

...one more thing (forgive the length of my responses, but I know how nerve racking this can be and I know that good information is very hard to find, so I'm erroring on the side of Too Much Information, for your sake)...you may be used to seeing your urine when you are hydrated, so you are probably used to seeing darker urine...you'd be surprised at how light properly hydrated urine really is....basically, your urine should be about the color of light straw (color codes FFFF99 through FFFFCC)...use this color chart to help you see by entering the color codes...

Html Color Codes (http://html-color-codes.info/#HTML_Color_Picker)

...I overloaded on water VERY early in the morning and was ALWAYS able to keep my adulteration/color/dilution in check for well over 8 hours...i had to test this because I had no idea exactly when I would be tested, or under what circumstances...i thought it might be possible that I would be tested during orientation or something, so my goal was to be able to intake water as 'normally' as possible, and get complete control over my dilution for an entire day...This is another reason why I measured the size of my 'mouthfuls' of fluids to know that each 'swig' was equivalent to about 2 oz, which allowed me to keep track of my fluid intake by counting swigs...FYI 4 oz every 15 minutes with 20mg of b2 will look slightly more 'vitaminy yellow' but not overly neon-yellow, while 6 oz every 15 minutes will look just about perfect, so long as you have the vitamin c...just keep in mind it takes about 2 hours for the vitamin c and b2 to start showing up in your urine after you are waterloaded...


hope this helps :)

[itsonnowgirl]

Thats going to be 20 1500mg Creatine pills for me per day and thats 3 times the recommended dosage.I was taking 2 times the RD so I'm so glad I followed this thread...thx nomore420.

[nomore420]

Thats going to be 20 1500mg Creatine pills for me per day and thats 3 times the recommended dosage.I was taking 2 times the RD so I'm so glad I followed this thread...thx nomore420.

Just keep in mind that I am male, 5'8" tall and 210 lbs (I was 225, but my strict diet/water intake actually led to me losing about 15 lbs over the past month). Anyway, my point is that females tend to have less creatinine due to lower muscle mass and the clearance can be lower depending on your height and body mass....the main thing is to make sure you have some adulteration strips and test yourself several times until you get the balance just right...i can guarantee you that it's hard to get your creatinine too high, and as long as you are suffering severe dehydration due to severe diarrhea then you should be just fine. i did a lot of research and unless you go WAY overboard, consuming/overloading on creatine will not hurt you, the main thing to remember is that it takes a couple days for the levels to build up, and despite how much creatine you consume, it can still be quite tricky to not overdilute if you have very high levels of thc metabolites...hope this helps :)

[sdstoner]

stop trying to tamper with YOUR piss. go get some (male female) synthetic pee. Somes in a bottle and heating padd with rubber band. also has temp strip to assure prop temperature. I toss it up on dashboard, with heater on high and before I go inside I stick it in SOCK. they usuall ask to empty pockets and do so.

then make sure while door is closed you pee in toilet. while poaring synthetic pee in the cup. (dont be stoned and accidentally switch)

viola

I am 3 for 3 in past 15 months.....

F&^k mj drug tests.

I Am PROP 215 CALIFORNIAN AND NOONE BIZ WHAT MEDS I USE

[nomore420]

stop trying to tamper with YOUR piss. go get some (male female) synthetic pee. Somes in a bottle and heating padd with rubber band. also has temp strip to assure prop temperature. I toss it up on dashboard, with heater on high and before I go inside I stick it in SOCK. they usuall ask to empty pockets and do so.

then make sure while door is closed you pee in toilet. while poaring synthetic pee in the cup. (dont be stoned and accidentally switch)

viola

I am 3 for 3 in past 15 months.....

F&^k mj drug tests.

I Am PROP 215 CALIFORNIAN AND NOONE BIZ WHAT MEDS I USE
sdstoner, I totally agree, Substitute if you can...unfortunately, there are many people that simply CANNOT substitute because they will be observed. Pepe, for example, is having a probation UA and therefore must dilute...I'm not sure about itsonnowgirl, but if someone wants to try to dilute and it's their only option, then I'm glad to provide any good information that I can to help...but again, I wish I had simply substituted, but dilution DID work for me...so in the end, it doesn't matter, whatever works is all that matters. Wouldn't you agree?

[itsonnowgirl]

"I toss it up on dashboard, with heater on high and before I go inside I stick it in SOCK."GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

I don't know how my boss would react to me tossing a bottle of fake pee on his dash while he's driving me to take my random test but I doubt very seriously he would appreciate it.

[itsonnowgirl]

I looked at those adultrant tests nomore420 and I didnt see the test level of creatine listed....all it listed was oxidant,S.G. and ph ?

[nomore420]

I looked at those adultrant tests nomore420 and I didnt see the test level of creatine listed....all it listed was oxidant,S.G. and ph ?
itsonnowgirl, i'm not sure which adulterant test you purchased, but the ones I purchased have six swatches: creatinine clearance (mg/dL), nitrates (mg/dL), Glutaraldehyde, pH, S.G. and Oxidant/PCC...

the two you need to be concerned with are creatinine clearance and s.g. (specific gravity), as these are the two that will be affected by dilution...the other four are signs of additives (nitrates = bleach or visine, pH = vinegar/salt, Oxidant/PCC = detergents etc)...because you are working on dilution, you know you are not adding anything to your urine to try to mask anything so you don't have to worry about oxidant or ph, but S.G. will help you...

From my experience, I can tell you that Specific Gravity (s.g.) is VERY easy to maintain, assuming you follow the dilution sticky and use gatorade instead of water, but if it's VERY challenging to get the creatinine clearance high enough, especially if you have to dilute heavy, so it's important that you have time to practice and get your levels proper...

hope this helps.

[itsonnowgirl]

I haven't purchased any yet but I looked at the ones from your link and those are the ones I was referring too..you always help this community and we are forever grateful..thanks.

DUH..nevermind,only three are color coded the others are listed within numerical limits.

[PEPE503]

hello hello!!! SO this morning i woke up at 6am and did my practice run followed N2 dilution method took the b2 and vitamin c and at 9am pissed in cup and BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i get two lines TWO solid lines man im smiling ear to ear. Thx to all for the valuable info now im super calm oh man sweet!!!!: thumbsup

ill post my results after my meeting :)

[nomore420]

hello hello!!! SO this morning i woke up at 6am and did my practice run followed N2 dilution method took the b2 and vitamin c and at 9am pissed in cup and BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i get two lines TWO solid lines man im smiling ear to ear. Thx to all for the valuable info now im super calm oh man sweet!!!!: thumbsup

ill post my results after my meeting :)
Congrats! Best of luck to you on your test. You'll do great! Just curious, how was the color? Not too neon-yellow I hope :)

[PEPE503]

hmmm i would say it looked i dunno like lemonade LOL it was not neon at all it looked convincing to me. so im calm that it wont raise no flagsafter my meeting ill tell you all about it :)

[PEPE503]

im bacK loL SORRY had a trip to seattle unable to remember password but went in and got two lines it was perfect :)

[Burnt Toast]

Congrats on passing PEPE.

Best wishes :stoned: