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gypski
01-15-2010, 05:59 PM
It seems that most people are now blaming the democrats for the current state of affairs, but that isn't totally true. It has been the GOP and the Bush administration that is the real blame for the current state of affairs. When the GOP had control of both houses and a Bush presidency, all the negative things that we are experiencing were put into motion. No party but the GOP Party has tried to bring this nation to its knees.

Clinton left a surplus with surplus projections into the future. Will they work now, hell no. The reason being the GOP enabled the robbery of this country and then use rhetoric to try and cast the blame. Are Democrats blameless? No. They didn't fight hard enough and fell for the War on Terror and invented cause to enable the collapse of our economy and now you see the banking industry is going to stick it to us again. The true leadership of this country will show itself if bankers are allowed to award bonuses to those who brought about this demise of our General Welfare.

The bankers rightly deserve to have 90% of the bonus monies to be paid in taxes. Who places them above the rest of us who are on the brink of financial disaster? None other then they themselves. They used our money, robbed our money, and they expect to go scot free? This issue alone will separate the men from the boys, not healthcare, which should be available to all Americans. Not bankers fucking everyone at every turn.

Time for the Democrats to step up to the plate and actually do what needs to be done, and heads should roll and the CEOs and the rest of the financial elites should be filling the vacant spaces in prison that will be opened by the release of non-violent drug war victims. They should not be allowed to talk their way out of the destruction they have wrought.
:twocents:

killerweed420
01-15-2010, 07:25 PM
I think part of the problem is Americans keep looking for the easy way out. An example is the bankers. Rather than save there money and pay cash for the things they need its just easier to let the banks save the money then we just pay them a commision for there service. But it becomes addictive. Most people need a mortgage to buy a house or a new car and so it starts there. Then they see how easy that was and they start getting some credit cards, geez that was easy lets go buy some stuff and before long you're trapped.
I payed cash for my home, its not easy but it can be done.

higher4hockey
01-15-2010, 07:52 PM
I blame wal-mart.

Trip06
01-15-2010, 08:09 PM
Blaming the democrats LMAO. This isnt about democrat vs republican, right vs,left, liberal vs conservative. Those are all controlled by THE NEW WORLD ORDER. Ill be the one to say it when nobody else will.

higher4hockey
01-15-2010, 09:52 PM
What is this new world order you speak of? enlighten us.

Trip06
01-15-2010, 10:15 PM
No thanks. I dont talk to 'afghan war vets'

higher4hockey
01-15-2010, 10:19 PM
Well then we're both in luck! I'm an Iraq War Vet, not an 'afghan war vet'. So spill !


Just out of curiosity...why don't you talk to ' afghan war vets ' That's like saying you don't talk to bob dylan fans or something.... whats the skinny?

gypski
01-15-2010, 10:55 PM
Blaming the democrats LMAO. This isnt about democrat vs republican, right vs,left, liberal vs conservative. Those are all controlled by THE NEW WORLD ORDER. Ill be the one to say it when nobody else will.

We are the new world order. We the People of the Cannabis Community which is world wide. :D

boaz
01-15-2010, 11:14 PM
What is this new world order you speak of? enlighten us.

oh sh*t, its on now. :rasta: i'm makin the popcorn.

just kidding bros. :smokin:

Trip06
01-15-2010, 11:16 PM
I could careless, no skin off my ass when it goes down. Im not on here to play games, Id rathar help people.

boaz
01-15-2010, 11:17 PM
We are the new world order. We the People of the Cannabis Community which is world wide. :D

damn straight, my friend! it is a new weed order! :pimp:

killerweed420
01-15-2010, 11:41 PM
Well thin its settled. Thats what we'll start calling our movement. The New Weed Order:jointsmile:

smello
01-15-2010, 11:53 PM
Well thin its settled. Thats what we'll start calling our movement. The New Weed Order:jointsmile:

:jointsmile:Let me sign up before I'm drafted!:thumbsup:

boaz
01-15-2010, 11:54 PM
Well thin its settled. Thats what we'll start calling our movement. The New Weed Order:jointsmile:

:greenthumb: aye! :stoned: 4,500 Posts!! holy f'n s. thats gotta be a record, eh? :smokin:

higher4hockey
01-16-2010, 12:02 AM
I could careless, no skin off my ass when it goes down. Im not on here to play games, Id rathar help people.

so you're not going to answer my questions ? you're no fun. :jointsmile:

Trip06
01-16-2010, 01:06 AM
Why would I type all that out and waste my time when you have argued with me on several other treads over the same subject. Upon which you told me you were an afghan vet. Get real I could careless about some fake prick here on cannabis.com. Get a life.

Islandborn
01-16-2010, 01:14 AM
If ya dont believe he is a Vet its pretty easy.....have them post personal photographs from the theater of combat and get their unit #.....its VERY easy to crosscheck that stuff. We had some dufus put he was a vet on a job application,,,we checked.....he lied.....got fired and almost arrested for a felony.

Trip06
01-16-2010, 01:21 AM
I aint even going to bother I could careless, even If he was. Dude just being a dick tryn to argue with me on every tread about my 'political stance'. h4h why do I have to tell you about what the NWO is? It took me 2 years worth of news here and there (survivalist/military study and help to get where im at) to get the proof to add up the big picture. I could type it all out to someone and they wouldnt have no links to governemt documents, memos, news broadcasts, operations, independent investigations. I guess he will just have to go find out himself. HAHA. Hope you make it in time.

higher4hockey
01-16-2010, 02:36 AM
Why would I type all that out and waste my time when you have argued with me on several other treads over the same subject. Upon which you told me you were an afghan vet. Get real I could careless about some fake prick here on cannabis.com. Get a life.

you are not very nice. fake prick. sheesh.

Never been to afghan...Have been to Iraq, it's not very nice either. They even gave me a medal for it! It even has a star on it for resolution. Anyways, if shit hits the fan, you can always say I told you so. :thumbsup:


Islandborn~ that's pretty jacked up that someone would do that. The easiest way to confirm someone is a vet is ask to see a copy of a DD214.

boaz
01-16-2010, 03:10 AM
you are not very nice. fake prick. sheesh.


yeah, i agree, what the fuck? trip, whats up with all the hate? :rastasmoke:

Trip06
01-16-2010, 03:38 AM
Hate? na Im not haten, the guy just is tryn to piss me off. Why dont we all drop this and focus on something more important> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUtwLABBLmE&feature=related


If we all dont raise up and stand up now, WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE EITHER FIGHTING TO THE DEATH OR BECOMING SLAVES!!!!!

higher4hockey
01-16-2010, 09:53 AM
Trip.....we should focus on something more important.


Dallas is playing Minnesota. Who do you think is going to win?

Trip06
01-17-2010, 02:39 AM
What does that have to do with politics? wouldnt that belong in the hobby forum? Maybe it would be smarter to speak truth here in the political forum where other people who maybe arent aware of whats going on can stumble upon and see it??? thats just me, Idk about you. I mean you know who cares if the commies takeover the country as long as you got football.

RedLocks
01-17-2010, 12:33 PM
It took me 2 years worth of news here and there (survivalist/military study and help to get where im at) to get the proof to add up the big picture.
lol prolly coulda read one article and saved urself a couple years, all depending on how slow a reader you are I guess...

63giSgV9Me0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63giSgV9Me0)

Trip06
01-17-2010, 02:02 PM
No your not getting my point. Yeah you can read what the NWO is and about how its evrything from the rothchilds and buildiburgers, secret societies of devil whorshipers and they set up and funded the UN and all that shit from babylon all the way to now. You could spend years studying and connecting the dots(which I have, and let me tell you: you cannot deny it if you tried. I have tried to many times) But you would never believe it unless you started looking at whats happening now in our government. Im talking about to get the full pictures of all the staged wars and funding of sometimes both sides of wars throughout history and all that shit knowledge takes some time to learn. If you wanna know the full pisture you have to look into it. Im not talking about big foot and aleins, Im taking about real hard facts. Like the fact that theses rich families have their own food plantations that they then have their non tampered fully healthy food flown with them all around the globe, so they dont have to eat the poision they feed us to give us cancer at 40years old. Thats the shit Im talking about. Theres nothing funny about any of this.

frostedwonder
01-17-2010, 02:05 PM
Wow first politics thread where people are not bagging on the President!

I wonder why anything other then cannabis activism and horticulture is even present on this site. Most that post in politics seem to just like to argue. Good thing there is still people who can grow herb and help others here, or this site would be toast!

Trip06
01-17-2010, 05:02 PM
Because some people get high to eat hot pockets and play video games, while others like to get high and talk about the world we live in. What better than a cannabis website to meet people on that level.

frostedwonder
01-17-2010, 06:05 PM
I don't need to be high to like hot pockets...damn now I am hungry great!

The child like bickering on here is unhealthy IMO. People that only post in the politics section seem to play a "cut and paste" politico stories debating game. It is hard to see any truths on any side when you have to look past people being mean to other people while trying to voice their chosen agenda. It is not as if each person is even interested in a new view or thought of another person here if it should dare go against what they already firmly believe in. Its like pushing a rope...Understandably things get heated but then things get out of focus and people show how shallow and mean humans are. Constructive political discussions are just about rare here. Not directed at anyone just a thought..

higher4hockey
01-17-2010, 06:20 PM
What does that have to do with politics? wouldnt that belong in the hobby forum? Maybe it would be smarter to speak truth here in the political forum where other people who maybe arent aware of whats going on can stumble upon and see it??? thats just me, Idk about you. I mean you know who cares if the commies takeover the country as long as you got football.

My money is on Minnesota :jointsmile:


I don't need to be high to like hot pockets...damn now I am hungry great!

The child like bickering on here is unhealthy IMO. People that only post in the politics section seem to play a "cut and paste" politico stories debating game. It is hard to see any truths on any side when you have to look past people being mean to other people while trying to voice their chosen agenda. It is not as if each person is even interested in a new view or thought of another person here if it should dare go against what they already firmly believe in. Its like pushing a rope...Understandably things get heated but then things get out of focus and people show how shallow and mean humans are. Constructive political discussions are just about rare here. Not directed at anyone just a thought..

Frosty, I like to stand on street corners and instigate crazies into epic rants as well. If you catch my drift.

Trip06
01-17-2010, 06:46 PM
Fuck yourself.

higher4hockey
01-17-2010, 06:49 PM
I'm trying to be nice and talk sports man!

Trip06
01-17-2010, 06:51 PM
IED

higher4hockey
01-17-2010, 06:53 PM
what does that mean?

smello
01-17-2010, 06:58 PM
what does that mean?

:wtf:He doesn't like minn?

frostedwonder
01-17-2010, 07:47 PM
Vikings or Greenbay with new jersey's! 17 3 Min! Starting off good going into the 3rd.

higher4hockey
01-17-2010, 08:22 PM
I hope I hope I hope that the Vikings finish off those turds. Only the Steelers can have SIX rings. :D

lve2smk
01-17-2010, 09:15 PM
Omg Trip you getting advice from Glenn Beck, the same person who said that Palin deserved to be president?

If this is the case, you havenâ??t gotten the big picture yet.

If you really care about improving the standards of living for humans, you will have to do something other than talk about conspiracies. You have to take action against the greedy people in our government who donâ??t want to change their attitude. People that resort to, "no, thatâ??s not going to work" or " God doesnâ??t want that", voices of the GOP, Republicans, Beck, Limbaugh, which messed up everything since the Nixon years for the most part.

Trip06
01-18-2010, 11:13 PM
I stated that I know glen beck is a shill you fool. Everybody who is "awake" knows that. I said that the facts he told were true. I researched them. So did millions of people. So If his shits true it can be used as a tool to educate people. So dont jump on my back when Im only telling you FACTS. Maybe you should learn to READ and get off my case dipshit.

RedLocks
01-19-2010, 02:20 PM
No your not getting my point. Yeah you can read what the NWO is and about how its evrything from the rothchilds and buildiburgers, secret societies of devil whorshipers and they set up and funded the UN and all that shit from babylon all the way to now. You could spend years studying and connecting the dots(which I have, and let me tell you: you cannot deny it if you tried. I have tried to many times) But you would never believe it unless you started looking at whats happening now in our government. Im talking about to get the full pictures of all the staged wars and funding of sometimes both sides of wars throughout history and all that shit knowledge takes some time to learn. If you wanna know the full pisture you have to look into it. Im not talking about big foot and aleins, Im taking about real hard facts. Like the fact that theses rich families have their own food plantations that they then have their non tampered fully healthy food flown with them all around the globe, so they dont have to eat the poision they feed us to give us cancer at 40years old. Thats the shit Im talking about. Theres nothing funny about any of this.

lol ok there Mulder

Trip06
01-19-2010, 04:49 PM
You can trace it all. Its fact. And you can fucking die. Have it your way. Its history and all documented fag.

higher4hockey
01-19-2010, 05:51 PM
Trip, you're back!! :thumbsup:

Trip06
01-19-2010, 06:08 PM
HAHAHA shit yeah. So who won the game?

higher4hockey
01-19-2010, 09:07 PM
Minnesota did! They crushed the Cowboys, I'm pretty happy about it.


How's the revolution coming?

Trip06
01-20-2010, 04:53 AM
What do you mean revolution? There isnt one. Just keep watching football you'l be safe.

higher4hockey
01-20-2010, 06:02 PM
finally we're on the same page! :thumbsup: i knew you would come around.


wait....what happens when football season is over? :wtf:

Trip06
01-20-2010, 07:34 PM
wait so you think you will prepare the day before it happens LMAO. Oh and hows my "revolution" coming along. Well over here the prep faze is almost complete. Got my dad and brother some lbe and nbc gear. Got my self a new bushmaster with a leatherwood scope and some steel 40 rounders. Got a tritium compass and a bunch of potassium nitrate. Because you know if nobody lived like us here in the militia your government would walked all over you decades ago. Yeah its coming along just fine. Tell me where you pawned of your sleeper system when you got back, I need to upgrade my civy one.

Trip06
01-20-2010, 07:59 PM
Oh and just to let you know the deffinition of a Revolution

an overthrow or repudiation and the thorough replacement of an established government or political system by the people governed.

Sence we arent gearing up to over throw the government, but yet to defend ourselves from it and starvation/political unrest you might want to reclassify your terms there military man. You know before they got you out on the ranges Id sure think they woulda taught you that.

Maybe political unrest/civil war would be the words your looking for.

Trip06
01-20-2010, 08:00 PM
Oh and just to let you know the deffinition of a Revolution

an overthrow or repudiation and the thorough replacement of an established government or political system by the people governed.

Sence we arent gearing up to over throw the government, but yet to defend ourselves from it and starvation/political unrest you might want to reclassify your terms there military man. You know before they got you out on the ranges Id sure think they woulda taught you that.

Maybe political unrest/civil war would be the words your looking for. All that eastern hippie/indi hindu bullshit they brought here in the 70's was never American. It was eastern bullshit, And it wont save you when they dont give a shit about your flowers. Throw beads at them and see how far that saves your asses.

gypski
01-20-2010, 08:37 PM
Hey trip, why don't you hijack another thread. This one was meant for constructive comments, not bullshit or fantasy conspiracy nuts. Time to take that tin foil hat off for a while. :D

delusionsofNORMALity
01-20-2010, 09:03 PM
This one was meant for constructive comments, not bullshit or fantasy conspiracy nuts.you post asinine comments like "No party but the GOP Party has tried to bring this nation to its knees" and then have the audacity to claim others are fantasizing? and here i thought i was the delusional one.:confused:

Trip06
01-20-2010, 09:16 PM
Hey trip, why don't you hijack another thread. This one was meant for constructive comments, not bullshit or fantasy conspiracy nuts. Time to take that tin foil hat off for a while. :D

Tin foil, Fantasy? Bullshit?

hey buddy the United states militias are composed of citizens, police, active duty soilders, and ex vets from all wars back to vietnam. All 58 million of us arent stock piling food and ammo to share some sick twisted fantasy of having to go to war to defend our families and country from tyranny.
Yeah cause were really looking forward to that...........because there isnt other things Id rathar spend that extra cash on. That is If 58 million people wernt all senceing something and staying loyal to being constitutionalist. .....but then again were just all crazy rednecks running around the woods with ak-47's. Get real fool. If we werent out here, your government would have over ran you decades ago and you would be living in the USSR of england USA.

Islandborn
01-20-2010, 10:48 PM
I find a bunch of this stuff funny. Devilworshippers, New World Orders, and secret societies oh my.Clearly this young guy is off the reservation. Time to up the Seroquel dosage.:stoned:

gypski
01-20-2010, 11:26 PM
you post asinine comments like "No party but the GOP Party has tried to bring this nation to its knees" and then have the audacity to claim others are fantasizing? and here i thought i was the delusional one.:confused:

That's correct. The Dems don't have the balls to stop it. :thumbsup:

Trip06
01-21-2010, 03:59 AM
I find a bunch of this stuff funny. Devilworshippers, New World Orders, and secret societies oh my.Clearly this young guy is off the reservation. Time to up the Seroquel dosage.:stoned:

HAHA your such a smart young lad with all your political study when you havent even looked into what im saying. Yeah devil worshipers, WTF do you think the "skull and bones society" is??? Looks like a collage sorority the ALL OF OUR PRESIDENTS HAVE BEEN IN!!! They do devil like things.

Keep living in slumber fool. When you dont even look into it how do you know. Fuckin ignorant moron.

gypski
01-21-2010, 06:43 AM
Tin foil, Fantasy? Bullshit?

If we werent out here, your government would have over ran you decades ago and you would be living in the USSR of england USA.

You just confirmed my assumption. :tin foil hat: If you weren't out there?????? You really should know, if we weren't out there you would have been run over by the last administration. :S2:

RedLocks
01-21-2010, 01:24 PM
HAHA your such a smart young lad with all your political study when you havent even looked into what im saying. Yeah devil worshipers, WTF do you think the "skull and bones society" is??? Looks like a collage sorority the ALL OF OUR PRESIDENTS HAVE BEEN IN!!! They do devil like things.

Keep living in slumber fool. When you dont even look into it how do you know. Fuckin ignorant moron.
well said...except, I might have to agree, may want to up the Seroquel dosage because you are going off like a fucking nutcase. I am aware of the topics you ramble on about, but honestly, the way you conduct yourself you sound a short car ride away from living in a log cabin and drinking your own urine while constructing triple-ply foil hats... Some of the shit that you claim to have spent 2 years of your life discovering you can learn about by watching the fucking Simpsons lol, could spent those 2 years in therapy watching cartoons maybe...

Don't get me wrong, I believe in all the conspiracy shit, in fact it just strengthens my belief structure, but fact is.. take a valium dude and stfu you sound like an idiot, and I say this all in the most constructive way these words can be used ;) Not trying to trash yuh :thumbsup:

Trip06
01-21-2010, 04:02 PM
The 2 years worth of studying wasnt implied to be Studying the NWOers bowels of dark satanic rituals. It was implied more or less in a survivalist way. I was going off the handle because Your making arrogant remarks which from behind a computer I cannot tell if you believe in it or not with out you saying so. So then I assume(like any one would) that you dont understand whats going on or believe it, and then I have to pound you with truth to wake you up. A simple yeah man I agree or I see your point would of worked. Im done with this.

RedLocks
01-21-2010, 04:13 PM
The 2 years worth of studying wasnt implied to be Studying the NWOers bowels of dark satanic rituals. It was implied more or less in a survivalist way. I was going off the handle because Your making arrogant remarks which from behind a computer I cannot tell if you believe in it or not with out you saying so. So then I assume(like any one would) that you dont understand whats going on or believe it, and then I have to pound you with truth to wake you up. A simple yeah man I agree or I see your point would of worked. Im done with this.
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higher4hockey
01-22-2010, 06:26 PM
Maybe political unrest/civil war would be the words your looking for. All that eastern hippie/indi hindu bullshit they brought here in the 70's was never American. It was eastern bullshit, And it wont save you when they dont give a shit about your flowers. Throw beads at them and see how far that saves your asses.

Flowers, beads? Are you now calling me, the iraqi child raping OIF vet, a hipppie? That's below the belt.


What do you do for a living trip? Also, how old are you?