dispensaries that will be going under post here.

[palerider7777]

just a helpful guide to know who's in and who's out anybody with good info post here so we all don't run around going to shops that will not be there.

[Spacedet01]

Im thinking it shouldn't be too hard for shops to cough up 5k? Now the background check might hurt some people but the money shouldn't be the issue here. I dont agree with the decisions but the bright side is once you pay 5k and are approved your pretty close to legit in the states books!

[Vancefish]

Not only that, but the new laws are only city of Denver at this point. So, a shop owner could technically just move to another city or into an unincorporated area of a county. They don't necessarily HAVE to just shut down and walk away.

A good example of this is the new dispensary in Arvada. Arvada is in Jefferson County. We've all heard Jeffco is ANTI-dispensary. So, How was it done?

The spot this new dispensary is in, is technically unincorporated Adams county. It just has an Arvada mailing address. Oddly, the nearest Adams county city is Westminister, which is also very ANTI-dispensary. So, this is a near perfect location. Neither MMJ hating city can do anything about it. Adams county id fine with it. No schools around either. PLUS no city tax.

I really don't think Palerider has an agenda here either. :)

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

Im thinking it shouldn't be too hard for shops to cough up 5k? Now the background check might hurt some people but the money shouldn't be the issue here. I dont agree with the decisions but the bright side is once you pay 5k and are approved your pretty close to legit in the states books!

Anyone who has a shop has 5k. I can afford the liscense and fees, but it is a ridiculous amount compared to any other buisness licenese, and the background check will only force people with less than perfect records to installing a puppet owner.

I do suppose the $5,000 liscnese is much cheaper than a 12% tax on all transactions like they were orignally aiming for...

Like SC said, one benefit of the liscensing fees will be that it will create such a substantial sum of money, that it will not be something the local authorities will want to see go away.

[palerider7777]

Not only that, but the new laws are only city of Denver at this point. So, a shop owner could technically just move to another city or into an unincorporated area of a county. They don't necessarily HAVE to just shut down and walk away.

A good example of this is the new dispensary in Arvada. Arvada is in Jefferson County. We've all heard Jeffco is ANTI-dispensary. So, How was it done?

The spot this new dispensary is in, is technically unincorporated Adams county. It just has an Arvada mailing address. Oddly, the nearest Adams county city is Westminister, which is also very ANTI-dispensary. So, this is a near perfect location. Neither MMJ hating city can do anything about it. Adams county id fine with it. No schools around either. PLUS no city tax.

I really don't think Palerider has an agenda here either. :)
no infact i don't want to see any go outta biz unless there str8 up shady and no good.i have'nt really seen that yet tho.it was more a poke at the state being able to do anything it wants whenever it wants to.

and thats kartel&friends m.o.no biggie,he says that in my threads all the time.so it makes me wonder who is the one with the real agenda here.

[palerider7777]

Anyone who has a shop has 5k. I can afford the liscense and fees, but it is a ridiculous amount compared to any other buisness licenese, and the background check will only force people with less than perfect records to installing a puppet owner.

I do suppose the $5,000 liscnese is much cheaper than a 12% tax on all transactions like they were orignally aiming for...

Like SC said, one benefit of the liscensing fees will be that it will create such a substantial sum of money, that it will not be something the local authorities will want to see go away.

idk i still think it has a ways to go to even come close to the prison,court,jail,leo and so on funding.lets not forget all the tickets,all the homes,boats,guns,cars,land on and on they get to take and sell of too.

[Spacedet01]

Anyone who has a shop has 5k. I can afford the liscense and fees, but it is a ridiculous amount compared to any other buisness licenese, and the background check will only force people with less than perfect records to installing a puppet owner.

I do suppose the $5,000 liscnese is much cheaper than a 12% tax on all transactions like they were orignally aiming for...

Like SC said, one benefit of the liscensing fees will be that it will create such a substantial sum of money, that it will not be something the local authorities will want to see go away.


There is truth to all your statements. We all knew that it wasnt going to be long before someone dropped the hammer. Im always trying to find the bright spots in deals like this. At least the new rules are ones we can at least play by. I dont see any of them as total game changers..which in my books is a good thing.

[Kartel]

There is truth to all your statements. We all knew that it wasnt going to be long before someone dropped the hammer. Im always trying to find the bright spots in deals like this. At least the new rules are ones we can at least play by. I dont see any of them as total game changers..which in my books is a good thing.

The five patient rule though... so any caregiver that lives in the city limits with five patients suddenly has to declare themselves a dispensary though, or did they take that out?

I know a few caregivers in Denver who will be forced to move as they are in residential areas because of this rule.... I wonder how many other cities will do the same? I wonder if they will ever attempt to force the production onto agricultural or industrial zoned land?

[justinsane33]

some dispensary owner needs to save a bus full of handicapped kids while he's stoned. maybe that would give some good press.

[lampost]

^ I didn't think this law had anything in it regarding where you could grow!? I thought it was just:

Licensing fee
No felon owners
No medicating on site

So does this mean dispensary employees can't get high all day in the back room?! Or is the "no medicating" just for patients?

[palerider7777]

^ I didn't think this law had anything in it regarding where you could grow!? I thought it was just:

Licensing fee
No felon owners
No medicating on site

So does this mean dispensary employees can't get high all day in the back room?! Or is the "no medicating" just for patients?

(1) In any residential zone district as defined by the zoning code of the city, or in any other location where retail sales are prohibited by the zoning code.

this part here looks like an open book for them to zone as they please?

[Vancefish]

The five patient rule though... so any caregiver that lives in the city limits with five patients suddenly has to declare themselves a dispensary though, or did they take that out?

I know a few caregivers in Denver who will be forced to move as they are in residential areas because of this rule.... I wonder how many other cities will do the same? I wonder if they will ever attempt to force the production onto agricultural or industrial zoned land?

That was in Romer's now dead bill(Thank god that died! :thumbsup:). Not the city of Denver's thing we are talking about in this thread.

The next one to come up is the Sheriff's bill. Which is currently unsponsored.

[palerider7777]

That was in Romer's now dead bill(Thank god that died! :thumbsup:). Not the city of Denver's thing we are talking about in this thread.

The next one to come up is the Sheriff's bill. Which is currently unsponsored.

very good i did'nt know that was taken out either.

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

idk i still think it has a ways to go to even come close to the prison,court,jail,leo and so on funding.lets not forget all the tickets,all the homes,boats,guns,cars,land on and on they get to take and sell of too.

Well the city and county of denver does not see a penny of LEO funding or any of the gains from confiscation. When LEO confiscates your property they sell it at police auctions (usually to their friends, family or themselfs) and all benefits go right back to the police department. So they fight tooth and nail to confiscate as much as possible because it means a larger budget for themselfs.

I have no problem with police, as they represent a needed safety in our community, but when they derive property from their fellow americans to help counterset their budget and sponsor laws that needlessly put non-violent offenders on long sentacnces, it is certainly time for a serious change of priorities.

...whatever happened to protect and serve ?