Stealth vape advice

[CompGeek]

Hi,
I appreciate all the posts I've read - very helpful for newbie - thanks!

As a parent, I define stealth criteria as:
Smoke - I think that nearly all vapes will not put out significant smoke, true?
Noise
Time spent alone in room (a few minutes heatup/cool down is OK)
Size/handling to stow away. I guess fragility is a factor too.

I'll be a whip user I think, but need a balloon for my wife who is seriously inhalation impaired.

Candidates:
Extreme-Q
Herbal-aire

Obviously not much on the Q but I've read everything I can find - new fan sounds promising - it seems like a reasonably safe choice even new.

Herbal aire is of course well tested and cheaper. How about noise/size?

Thanks much!

[Ihop60]

:)

Sounds like you know what your looking for.

For stealth though you can't beat the Magic Flight Launch Box, battery operated hot enough in less than 5 seconds. Little or no vapor, thats entirely up to the user. Best of all, no odor.

(http://img300.imageshack.us/i/picture1005.jpg/)

Under $100.00

:vap_smiley:

[CompGeek]

Interesting - that's one I haven't seen and it indeed looks very discrete. Thanks.

[BuzzBob]

You are correct. No vaporizer will put out smoke or the typical pot smell unless the temperature gets high enough to light the herb. That shouldn't be a problem except accidentally, once in a while. And even then, the amount of smoke will be very small, far less than what a joint puts out. Vapor does have a smell, but it's very light and disipates quickly. Someone sitting next to you while you vaporized would smell it, but someone entering the room 15 seconds after you exhaled probably wouldn't.

I can't comment on any of those vaporizers you mention because I haven't used them. However, while deciding, don't forget to consider how much you use. A vaporizer that might be just the trick when you a couple of stealth hits may turn into a royal pain to use throughout the day, every day, or it may just not stand up to heavy use.

Regarding efficiency, I tend to think they're all just as efficient. After all, they all get hot enough to go from the vaporizing range to the combustion range. There's a vaporizer out there that claims it takes the vaporized remains from well-known vaporizers like Volcano, etc., and manages to squeeze another couple of bags from them. I really doubt it.

[lwien123]

Regarding efficiency, I tend to think they're all just as efficient.

With the Purple Days, you can get 4 satisfying, solid hits from 0.025g. Try to see if you can get that with any other kind of vape

[BuzzBob]

Yea, you're right... I haven't tried enough to know. Is that really a 1/40 of a gram? I wish the dispensaries around here had different vaporizers to try, but they all just have Volcanoes.

But I do have a question about efficiency. If you use the same herb in two different vaporizers, and both reduce the green herb to a nice mahogany brown, then didn't both vaporizers extract the same amount of essence? If not, where did the essence from the less efficient vaporizer go?

[lwien123]

Yea, you're right... I haven't tried enough to know. Is that really a 1/40 of a gram?

Yes.


But I do have a question about efficiency. If you use the same herb in two different vaporizers, and both reduce the green herb to a nice mahogany brown, then didn't both vaporizers extract the same amount of essence? If not, where did the essence from the less efficient vaporizer go?

Maybe the best way I can answer your question is to explain why the PD is more efficient than other vapes.

Most vapes use a whip or a bag as a delivery system. With whips and bags, condensation builds up and you lose a certain amount of THC to that condensation. With whips, you can harvest that condensation, but not so with bags. The PD doesn't use bags or whips. It just has a very small stem, so condensation is held to the bare minimum.

Secondly, the bowl size is the smallest bowl of any other vape on the market (other than the Myrtlezap). It will only hold 0.025g and is designed to work with that small amount. Try loading that small amount in a bag or whip based vape. Typically, it's not enough to even cover the screen and if it doesn't cover the screen, it's hard to get an even well vape from your bud.

[CompGeek]

Thanks that is very helpful. I actually ended up throwing out the bag requirement based on feedback that any vape will probably fix my wife's inhalation impairement and bought a Da Buddah which looks compact, is reportedly easy to use, inexpensive and gets consistent rave reviews. I'll post my own experience when it arrives.

[lwien123]

Thanks that is very helpful. I actually ended up throwing out the bag requirement based on feedback that any vape will probably fix my wife's inhalation impairement and bought a Da Buddah which looks compact, is reportedly easy to use, inexpensive and gets consistent rave reviews. I'll post my own experience when it arrives.

Oh-oh. While the Buddha is a great vape, it does require lung effort to inhale the vapor. There are fan assisted vapes that actually blow the vape into your lungs without any effort on the users part, which may be a better choice for her. Second to that would be a bag vape being that it takes less lung effort to pull from a bag than from a whip based vape that doesn't have a fan assist.

[CompGeek]

Totally understood; she is just price sensitive right now so I took a gamble that she will be able to draw reasoning that it has to be much easier for her than pipe/bong. I did really want the Extreme but figure owning a Buddah is not high risk. I'll let you know if it works out for her or not.

[BuzzBob]

Thanks, lwien, between your explanation and what I've read since I posted, I get why the PD is efficient. The small portion does the trick, and I should have known. More than 20 years ago, an old girlfriend taught me to roll pinners instead of fat ones. You use less and you're just as stoned.

CompGeek, yes, please post your experiences with Da Buddha. I just got mine yesterday.

[Jman781]

Great choice guys, i've owned my dbv for about 6 weeks and I frickin' love it! I would suggest though Compgeek that maybe when your wife vapes to lower the temp. This way she can draw slowly and lightly which is fine but will heat the herbs that much quicker. I'd say let her draw at about 1 o'clock and you maybe about 2-2:30 but not past 3 (settings vary on each vape).

[MrMojoRisin7127]

There is the aromatherapy dish option for both the DBV and the SSV. You simply put some water in the dish and a few drops of essential oils and vape away. The smells are actually quite relaxing and cover up any odor from the vapor. Even though vaporizers produce a lot less smell, people who have a strong sense of smell could easily pick up on their odor.

Taylor
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[ivbvapor]

get a vaporfection stealth novus, i have heard many tales of in being left unseen through a major drug raid. and if the price is too high they have a hand operated digital that also uses a glass element & is just as inconspicuous.

[MrMojoRisin7127]

get a vaporfection stealth novus, i have heard many tales of in being left unseen through a major drug raid. and if the price is too high they have a hand operated digital that also uses a glass element & is just as inconspicuous.

There are other people you may be trying to deceive other than cops. How would you explain what your Vaporfection was if a family member saw it?

With the glass dish on the SSV, it would easily pass as simply an aromatherapy device.

[ivbvapor]

There are other people you may be trying to deceive other than cops. How would you explain what your Vaporfection was if a family member saw it?

With the glass dish on the SSV, it would easily pass as simply an aromatherapy device.

ummm...and aromatherapy device, never seen an eyebrow so much as lift...