Nanotech and the end of the world.

[smokinindausa]

In case you dont know what nanotech is here are a few links.

http://www.zyvex.com/nano/

http://e-drexler.com/p/idx04/00/0325nanoOverview.html

Basically, nanotechnology is he use of microscopic robots to manipulate objects on a molecular scale. Also, scientists say that these "nanobots" or nanites could be given the ability to self-replicate. This means that, theorietically, a swarm of nanites could exponentially expand, consuming all life on Earth. Just in case you were wondering, nanites run on carbon, what all life is made out of. That means, to self-replicate, they must consume carbon.

Nanites already exist, but they do not have the self-replication yet. It would be even worse if they were implanted with some kind of collective A.I.

However, if the nanites do not kill all life on Earth, here are some positive things that can come out of this:


Cures for almost all disease

Incredibly cheap and efficient manufacturing.

Overwhelming military might for the United States (cause we will be the first to figure it out :D )

Construction of a space elevator, which connects from a platform in the pacific to an international space station in orbit.

Fabrication of foodstuffs from raw materials like carbon.

Fabrication of pretty much any other substance.

Pretty much anything else that can be accomplished by the mass-scale altering of molecular structures.


To me, this would be the most important technological advancement in human history, and potentially more deadly than nukes.

Here is a link for that space elevator I was talking about:

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_elevator_020327-1.html

Make sure to read the part entitled Stronger Than Steel.

Wont the future be cool (if we don't die)?

[hempilation311]

holy shit. I had a post very similar to this one the other night. We're doomed :(

[smokinindausa]

Yeah that thread gave me this idea; it seems a little more realistic and closer to our time.

[hempilation311]

I haven't heard of this stuff before now. That's crazy man. small little robots that can manipulate molecules? that's just too much power to put in the hands of something, even if that thing was a human being. that's almost to the point of playing god. wow

[SLiC112]

these scientists is gona kill us all one day...

[Beeblebrox.420]

Ah the so-called Grey Goo Scenario. Little molecular nanorobots tearing apart the Earth molecule by molecule, replicating themselves until the entire Earth is covered with nothing but a sludge of nano 'bots. Of course, this scenario is highly unlikely. These things require energy to work, and energy is not freely available. Freeze them, and they stop working; heat them up enough and they're permanently destroyed They would, therefore, be fairly easy to control. I've got more important things to worry about. Heh.

[fetcher]

William Sims Bainbridge
Deputy Division Director, Division of Information and Intelligent Systems

Program Responsibilities:
Nanoscale Science and Engineering
NASA-NSF-EPRI Joint Investigation of Enabling Technologies for SSP
The Directorate for Computer and Information Science and Engineering

http://mysite.verizon.net/william.bainbridge/
http://mysite.verizon.net/william.bainbridge/dl/digit.htm

Bainbridge was a member of a sixties and seventies satanic cult, The Process Church of the Final Judgement now undercover as Best Friends Animal Society (do a google search for both if you don't believe it) Here are some of his quotes. It's shocking and if we don't wake up soon it will be too late! Maybe it already is.

" ... dogmatic religious opposition is not rooted in technical or humanitarian concerns, but in a view of existence that is incompatible with scientific progress.

There is no peaceful way to overcome such opposition, short of converting believers away from their strongly-held, literalistic faith. We must therefore anticipate a long period of overt conflict between secular advocates and religious opponents of cloning.

If the opponents succeed in establishing strict anti-cloning laws world-wide, then the conflict may become especially harsh with the real (and unfortunate) possibility of violence.

Those who believe that human reproductive cloning violates God's laws are unlikely to show tolerance for scientists who defy the supposedly sacred prohibition."

Religious Opposition to Cloning
http://www.jetpress.org/volume13/bainbridge.html

Nanotechnology: Tiny Science, Huge Threat
http://www.cascadiamedia.org/commentary_nano.html

I've done a tremendous amount of research on Bainbridge and nanotech if anyone is interested.

[fetcher]

Manipulating Matter:
The Scientific Dictatorship as a Project
in the Reconfiguration of Reality

In the article entitled â??The Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorshipâ?� (Fall 2003 edition of Paranoia Magazine), we examined the transmogrification of the eliteâ??s religious power structure into a technocratic oligarchy legitimized predominantly by science. The history and background of this "scientific dictatorship" is a conspiracy, created and micro-managed by the historical tide of Darwinism, which has its foundations in Freemasonry. In this article, we shall examine the â??scientific dictatorshipâ?� as an enormous project in the re-sculpting of reality itself.

The Technocracy
Freemason Aldous Huxley coined the term â??scientific dictatorshipâ?� and presented an allegorized version of the concept in his famous roman â??a clef entitled Brave New World. Huxley was mentored by Freemason H.G. Wells, who also presented a fictionalized â??scientific dictatorshipâ?� under the appellation of the â??Technocracy.â?� This is an interesting designation for a world government managed by functional elites and scientists. It is derived from the Greek word techne, which means craft. Given Wellsâ?? membership in the Craft of Freemasonry, the synchronicity becomes apparent ...

I don't have the link handy, but if you want me to email you the complete article let me know.

[smokinindausa]

Dude you just officialy wigged me the fuck out.

[weirdo79]

Also well known as the "illuminati" or "illuminated ones" ;) , Galileo was one, according to his own admission (and no I did not get that from the stinking da vinci code or its prequel....).

BUT, Nanotechnology could never destroy or control earth no technology could. You see the Sun sends out these Huge things called Solar Flares which tend to electromagnetically fry massive amounts of technology on earth. Several years ago a major part of the midwest was blacked out by such a solar storm. The tongue(from the sun) was big enough that it actually reached out and "licked" earth.

Don't worry the matrix will never happen ;), The sun will see to it he he. "We have the humans on the run!" &%#$%&! Solar flaaaarrreeee ,.....daisy daaaaaiiiiissssyyy.......

[smokinindausa]

Wierdo, thats perhaps the most rediculous theory i have ever heard. theres this thing called the ozone layer. You see, it blocks that stuff you call solar flares. Thats how life is here.

[Kombucha]

Er... if we can't even make big computers have AI, how are we going to make tiny lumps of metal have AI?

[BUZz UK]

alright, this 'nanotech' thing really pisses me off. it's the antithesis of hypothetical science, and it's basically science fiction. all these people talk about it like it's real! get a grip!

[amsterdam]

no kidding!!

[fetcher]

Buzz,

Obviously you are right where they want you. There's a good book you should read, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America: A Chronological Paper Trail" by Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0966707109/qid=1112803218/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-8615974-7666365).

Nanotechnology and converging technologies ARE real.

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"Yet the technology exists to create a totalitarian 'New World Order'. Covert neurological communication systems are in place to counteract independent thinking and to control social and political activity on behalf of self-serving private and military interests. When our brain functions are already is connected to supercomputers by means of radio implants and microchips, it will be too late for protest."

- Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde, MD Former Chief Medical Officer of Finland December 6, 2000

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â??Techniques such as genetic engineering, psychoactive drugs and electronic control of the brain make possible a transformation of the species into docile, fully-obedient, "safe" organisms. â??

- William Sims Bainbridge, in Religions for a Galactic Civilization, Paper given at the Nineteenth Goddard Memorial Symposium of the American Astronautical Society, Pentagon City, Virginia, March 26-27, 1981.

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"The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values....New forms of social control may be needed to limit the indiscriminate exercise by individuals of their new powers."

Zbigniew Brzezinski, CFR member and founding member of the Trilateral Commission, and National Security Advisor to five presidents.

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PRESIDENT THINKS A BILLION OF NANO, BUT A BIT LESS THAN ALLOWED BY LAW

http://www.smalltimes.com/document_display.cfm?section_id=45&document_id=7347

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Read some of Bainbridgeâ??s research on Galactic Religion, Cloning, Converging Technologies and Nanotechnology. Cults are nothing more than part of his government research project for a new world global order.

http://mysite.verizon.net/william.bainbridge/dl/digit.htm

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There are also some wonderful archived radio interviews with experts. Here are some links:

http://4acloserlook.com
http://4acloserlook.com/listen_listen.html
http://www.4acloserlook.com/april2004.html

[amsterdam]

i guess so.

[hazeman88]

Well your all screwed. See the nano's buit robots. The robots kill all the humans except a ellite squad of super humans. These super humans are then killed my robots. But a robot goes back in time to the ninetees and meets a younger form of me. The robot then fights another robot and both of them die. I find out that when i was younger a robot in a human for tried to kill my mom. Then when i was twenty another robot came to kill me and they sant another robot to save me. Except this one helped start the war between the robots and the humans. See i didnt seperate paragraphs or nothing, because thats how it is in robo future.

[smokinindausa]

Ok let me set you guys straight. Fetcher, those are some crazy conspiracy theories. Buzz UK, nanotechnology DOES exist. They have made a few nano-bots in laboratories in a vacuum. They are incredibly expensive and do not have the ability to self replicate. In fact they are nothing more than sensors, really. But they still are a microscopic machine with a microscopic microchip. It seems liek science fiction now, but so was space flight in the 40's. Kombucha, I justy threw that AI thing in for the hell of it. The first nanos will just have pre-programmed tasts set into thier systems. However, who knows what will happen hundreds of years down the road.

One application of nanites that I didn't say before woudl be the ability to war a kind of nanite exoskeleton. The swarm of nanos would enter your bloodstream and coat you skin. Basically, a person with an advanced nanoskeleton would be able to:

Breathe underwater
Super-strenght, super speed, super reflexes
Active camoflage (like a chameleon)
Resistant to extreme heat and cold
Bullet-proof
Augmentation of the healing process


Also if they could truly figure out the brain, nanites could augment brain activity, exponentially increasing brain power.

By the way, I'm not just pulling this out my ass. There was a big feature on the history channel about it.

[amsterdam]

sounds like fun to me.how progressive.

[Looker]

I want a nanotech super dick..

Sorta like replace my schvance with a cyborg schvance....

[weirdo79]

Thats hilarious that you think the Ozone layer blocks Electromagnetic fields Smoking....better do some research into Astrophysics. It's not a literal tongue of flame.....Geez man before you say something is "ridiculous" do some research on the subject....But hey why let facts creep into your view....*you do realize there is over 30 types of energy that come off the sun right?* ....

[BUZz UK]

Ok let me set you guys straight. Fetcher, those are some crazy conspiracy theories. Buzz UK, nanotechnology DOES exist. They have made a few nano-bots in laboratories in a vacuum. They are incredibly expensive and do not have the ability to self replicate. In fact they are nothing more than sensors, really. But they still are a microscopic machine with a microscopic microchip. It seems liek science fiction now, but so was space flight in the 40's. Kombucha, I justy threw that AI thing in for the hell of it. The first nanos will just have pre-programmed tasts set into thier systems. However, who knows what will happen hundreds of years down the road.

One application of nanites that I didn't say before woudl be the ability to war a kind of nanite exoskeleton. The swarm of nanos would enter your bloodstream and coat you skin. Basically, a person with an advanced nanoskeleton would be able to:

Breathe underwater
Super-strenght, super speed, super reflexes
Active camoflage (like a chameleon)
Resistant to extreme heat and cold
Bullet-proof
Augmentation of the healing process


Also if they could truly figure out the brain, nanites could augment brain activity, exponentially increasing brain power.

By the way, I'm not just pulling this out my ass. There was a big feature on the history channel about it.

lol, you just listed the augs from 'Deus Ex' (good game!), what i meant by 'they don't exist', to paraphrase myself, is that they are not advanced in the way that you describe, and most likely won't be. plus, i don't quite understand what you mean when you say that the can take on pretty much any charicteristic or function needed. could they change between functions? would they need some sort of AI? could they take on ANY role? how would active camo work? wouldn't they need to have some kind of colour canging device, I mean, this is some crazy shit! i guess they're only atoms in size, but how do you manipulate a few atoms? "ok guys, i need you to be bullet-proof now, put these tiny kevlar vests on" , lol, i don't see it.

[BUZz UK]

also, on the subject of replication of other matter,
I'd love to smoke a bowl of nano bot's!

[Looker]

Well I have to give you the benefit of the doubt...

It's alot better than my "ass flavored candy" thread...

[weirdo79]

P.S. It's not a "theory" your referring to Smokin, its a hypothesis. My comment was not a hypothesis its a "theory" of astrophysics (like the "theory of gravity")....So don't believe it if you dont want , if you dont believe in gravity I can't stop you , but you still won't float off the earth no matter how hard you try...(hope you get the point). Call any energy ministry's "question" line and ask them what their biggest "fear" is....It's solar flares as they can knock out power very easily. But hey don't listen to me look it up.....I suggest any of Stephen Hawking's books....

[BUZz UK]

"wow" "you" "really" "like" "quotation" "marks" " "dont" "you" "weirdo"

[hempilation311]

ok so how often do these solar flares occur? and how long will it take before these fuckin mini bots are released? thats the only thing that is relevent because i know for a fact that solar flares that are of a magnitude large enough to wipe out vast areas of electronics come few and far between. true? yes.

the bottom line is not that some guy on a cannabis forum doesn't know about solar flares. it's that we are going to create our own doom. if a solar flare is all we can depend on we better get working on how to replicate a solar flare because it WILL NOT HAPPEN when we need it to. this is also true.

[hempilation311]

stephen hawkings won't save you btw,,,,,;)

[BUZz UK]

how could he, lol.....unless....... mounted miniguns..........jetpack......sorry! just thinking out loud!

[weirdo79]

True only every few years of huge magnitude. We are a rather small target in a huge array of possible targets. Although we can already replicate EMP on a small scale so it wouldnt be that difficult if it was our main concern. (although get ready to live in the "dark ages" again for awhile ;) )

And, Buzz the quotations are for emphasis and context. As to your last post too much Futurama and Simpsons for you ;) :)

[BUZz UK]

lol, i'm at a lose end, and am finding interest in things like quotation marks, sorry, lol

[weirdo79]

It's all good :). I'm sober so im finding interest in the T.V and this forum (and overgrow, im addicted to that site)

[BUZz UK]

ditto, sober 'till friday, waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! i feel more out of control (mentally) when i'm sober.

[hempilation311]

me too.... i'm on a break as well. god this sucks..... money is the root of evil..... and weed.

[Kombucha]

FOR FUCKS SAKE! Nanotechnology does exist, yes, but they are just pissy little pieces of shit that don't do anything amazing. They can't give you super powers or anything like that, and they aren't that small yet. It's not magic, you would actually have to fit circuitry into them somewhere. Not only that, but smaller things are harder to manufacture, if we can't do something with technology of any size, we certainly can't do it with nanotechnology, get a grip, and think about what you are posting. I'm quite happy to believe theories like this if they are plausible, but this is not. It is IMPOSSIBLE. If you stopped to think about it you would realise that.

By the way....


I want a nanotech super dick..

You do realise that "nano" means really small right?

[BUZz UK]

lmao, enough nanos means a big dick man