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gypski
01-03-2010, 05:06 AM
The Washington state bill is sponsored by Rep. Mary Lou Dickerson, a Seattle Democrat. Her bill would see marijuana being sold in the state's 160 state-run liquor stores, and customers, 21 and older, would pay a tax of 15% per gram.

No, no, no. Fifteen percent per gram is crazy. The state sales tax is the only tax that should apply on the total sale only. Then a tax fee to be a grower. :D

PaNheAdjay
01-03-2010, 07:19 AM
Dont care as long as I can grow like I brew beer and wine...

WashougalWonder
01-03-2010, 01:10 PM
I agree, that is robbery. Maybe, maybe an excise tax to benefit health programs.????

killerweed420
01-03-2010, 07:07 PM
That was the most glaring example of idiocy I saw in the bill too. Keep the state out of MMJ business. They shouldn't even be involved with the alcohol business. Hell they shouldn't be in any business period. Thats not there job.

jamessr
01-03-2010, 11:23 PM
The States version of if you can't beat em join em.......legislate it and profit from it.

Exactly were in our constitution does this exist??? :wtf::wtf::wtf: 15%??? WOW! Thats one hell of a tax on a commodity :wtf::wtf::wtf: I guess the state agrees with cannabis is the worlds biggest cash crop worth profiting on.

So let's replace the drug cartels,sell it ourselves, don't tell the people exactly what our motive is and once it's voted in we control it all....

We who live in Wa. State know this is not the proper way of conducting our affairs....extortion never is.

WashougalWonder
01-04-2010, 12:57 PM
Keep the state out of MMJ business. They shouldn't even be involved with the alcohol business. Hell they shouldn't be in any business period. Thats not there job.

That is for sure, they can't even do their own job properly. Vote 'em all out next time.....

PaNheAdjay
01-04-2010, 04:52 PM
ok, not to rock the boat and I do have libertarian tendencies and I hate government regulation more than anyone I just put in my resignation ater ten years of federal service beaouse of it!!!, but taxation and regulation is exactly what I would like to see. If there is decent legislation for the farmers as well I would think the price would drop from black market prices dramatically anyway, the way it grows it should be 400$ a pound not an ounce! a 15% tax on something that had a 500% drop in price won't bother me....and if it pays for school teacher saleries or even new squad cars call me a facsiste!! Selling it in the same places we sell booze will help keep it out of minors hands which is a good thing especially if the black market in WA goes away like it did for booze after prohibition....and like I said before If we can legally grow for personal use that is all I could care about
just my 2c

gypski
01-04-2010, 05:14 PM
ok, not to rock the boat and I do have libertarian tendencies and I hate government regulation more than anyone I just put in my resignation ater ten years of federal service beaouse of it!!!, but taxation and regulation is exactly what I would like to see. If there is decent legislation for the farmers as well I would think the price would drop from black market prices dramatically anyway, the way it grows it should be 400$ a pound not an ounce! a 15% tax on something that had a 500% drop in price won't bother me....and if it pays for school teacher saleries or even new squad cars call me a facsiste!! Selling it in the same places we sell booze will help keep it out of minors hands which is a good thing especially if the black market in WA goes away like it did for booze after prohibition....and like I said before If we can legally grow for personal use that is all I could care about
just my 2c

That is a reasonable opinion as the tax drops with the price. I believe it should be sold by independent licensed sellers, just like tobacco and have a free market that will sort itself out over time. Keep the age restriction as for tobacco, and collect a fee for a grower's license. This all applies to total legal mj and should not restrict medical people from growing their own. If they want to sell their overage, they get a wholesaler (grower license).

Quality control will be set by sellers and buyers, and any bad product sold should have the seller shut down for a period of time or revoke their license. i.e. moldy, old or just plain crap.

I agree with education and health care etc. I balk at buying more cop cars. They have profited enough from the War on Drugs. Frankly, some need pink slips and a new career. :D

Keep it simple.

gr8misadventures
01-04-2010, 06:05 PM
15% per gram is outrageous, but an overall tax should apply. The cost of regulation needs to be offset. Kind of like tobacco companies being required to pay a certain amount toward health-related industries. Yeah, pump the Marijuana tax into school for education. Teach our kids the truth about ALL mind altering substances, along with the chemical/herbal difference between each.

killerweed420
01-04-2010, 10:52 PM
Take a look at California. Price hasn't dropped at all. If anything its gone up some from the high demand. It would do the same here in Washington for a few years till everyone and there brother is growing.

PaNheAdjay
01-05-2010, 01:26 AM
Take a look at California. Price hasn't dropped at all. If anything its gone up some from the high demand. It would do the same here in Washington for a few years till everyone and there brother is growing.

Yeah your right and I think its because people are willing to pay more for a safer place to get it...which for now I think is a novelty but I am not sure if there is really much of a free market and supply system set up as I would think would exist if it were produced and sold like tabacco or beer, which are both harder to grow/brew

WashougalWonder
01-05-2010, 12:59 PM
Take a look at California. Price hasn't dropped at all. If anything its gone up some from the high demand. It would do the same here in Washington for a few years till everyone and there brother is growing.

AND I hear the quality has gone down quite a bit, much saturation from people only interested in $$$$$$$

killerweed420
01-05-2010, 08:15 PM
AND I hear the quality has gone down quite a bit, much saturation from people only interested in $$$$$$$

I'm sure it still beats the mexiweed though.lol

LLLou2
01-20-2010, 06:49 AM
Dont care as long as I can grow like I brew beer and wine...

As HB 2401 is written today you will mot be allowed to grow your own.

killerweed420
01-20-2010, 07:04 PM
Yes you will be. Its still in there. But they want to have state liquor stores selling to the people who can't grow so the prices would really be high in a liquor store.

LLLou2
01-20-2010, 07:20 PM
Yes you will be. Its still in there. But they want to have state liquor stores selling to the people who can't grow so the prices would really be high in a liquor store.

IF we are talking about HB2401, it DOES NOT allow for personal cultivation, AND it removes the legal protections for MMj people to grow their own.
IF you think it allows for personal cultivation , show me the Sec. and line.
On the other hand, HB 1177 does NOT change 69.51RCW

I AM a MMj patient here in WA. and I am all for the complete legalization of Cannabis for adults , cultivation AND possession. BUT,I am not for giving the state total control over Cannabis production.
If you read HB2401 you will see that the state will issue licenses to growers, for the specific purpose of suppling the State Liquor stores. The state will not allow any possession of Cannabis that does NOT HAVE A STATE STAMP on the package.
Anyone caught growing or possessing Cannabis without a state license will get busted ,just as it is now.

killerweed420
01-21-2010, 12:14 AM
Looks like its all meaningless now. Lets move on with the intiative.
C/P
Komo News
OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) - A House committee is rejecting changes to the state's marijuana laws.

The Public Safety Committee on Wednesday voted down a measure to legalize marijuana for those 21 and older, and another that would decriminalize possession of small amounts of pot for adults.

Chairman Chris Hurst, D-Enumclaw, voted against both, saying he couldn't vote for something that conflicted with federal law.

The legalization bill failed on a 6-2 vote, while the decriminalization bill failed on a 5-3 vote. A decriminalization measure is still alive in the Senate, although a public hearing hasn't yet been scheduled for it.

Last week, activists in Washington state filed a ballot initiative that would legalize all adult marijuana possession, manufacturing and sales.