Chris Romer is still the enemy

[copobo]

Legislators draft new marijuana bill (http://www.themountainmail.com/main.asp?SectionID=4&SubSectionID=4&ArticleID=18108)

you think the price is high now, just wait till Chris regulates the industry down to uselessness and your price through the roof.

[FarmerSteve]

This is the ONE guy who scares me a bit.

[kingminus]

Maybe we should start a movement to VOTE HIM OUT OF OFFICE!!!!

[Hennessy1414]

ugly


:(

[lampost]

"By limiting caregivers to five patients, Massey said potentially half of the dispensaries in Colorado could be driven out of business.

"There's not as much money in it. It's less cost effective if dispensaries only serve five patients," Massey explained"

I don't understand how this will cut down the number of dispensaries. With now more than 20,000 patients that would mean we'd need 4000 dispensaries rather than the 200 that are around now. Is he assuming the number of patients is going to be drastically reduced somehow?

[palerider7777]

There must be a limit on the amount of marijuana produced and sold at any licensed premise.

â?¢ Eliminating non-medical dispensaries as well as the loopholes through which patients can purchase from multiple dispensaries.

this is what concerns me....i tried to warn people about what they were up to .

[palerider7777]

Maybe we should start a movement to VOTE HIM OUT OF OFFICE!!!!

agreed

[palerider7777]

Legislators draft new marijuana bill (http://www.themountainmail.com/main.asp?SectionID=4&SubSectionID=4&ArticleID=18108)

you think the price is high now, just wait till Chris regulates the industry down to uselessness and your price through the roof.

lmao this is what i have been saying and everyone told me i was just angery lmao just wait it's coming....people can stay as blind as they want but they won't like what there up to .

[copobo]

Romer is more dangerous than Republicans who don't care about this issue. We'd be MUCH better off right now with anyone else in his seat - no matter what their political affiliation as long as they are neutral on MMJ.

I'm ready to donate to whoever opposes him - Democrat or Republican. He's a wolf in sheeps clothing... though this bill doesn't seem patient friendly even one bit, I can't imagine anyone believes its good for patients.... though he tried to talk the talk at DU, he doesn't get it at all!!!!!!!!

[Dietblonde]

He spoke directly to the MMJ community on a few occasions and made it seem like he was on our side and wanted what we wanted. But he pulled the ol' bait-n-switch. He is another politician who talks out of both sides of his mouth. He lulled us only to make us more inactive.

I wrote him a long letter yesterday and I hope you will to.

And I should mention, if Romer fucks this industry up, he'll wear that crown and hopefully will be pushed out of office.

[palerider7777]

what he seems to not understand is not only are the med people that are here against his bs tons of people are moving here from all over mainly for the meds that will be there for them.so he keeps his bs up it should be pretty easy to remove him...as i said should be.

[ColoradoCareMMJ]

Remember YOU the people of the great state of colorado voted medical marijuana in and you have just as much power to vote out anyone who doesnt follow the state's constitution. :jointsmile:

[senorx12562]

I think I see what's happening here. If you've seen both of the legislative proposals I've seen (Romer's and what I've seen called the "law enforcement" proposal, which I think came from the county sheriffs of Colorado, and by the way, why do they need their own lobbyists?) you know that of the two, the latter is by far scarier. I'm starting to think this is intentional. What if the plan all along was to try to gain the support of our community by having a proposal up for consideration at the same time as Romer's that is so draconian and so obviously designed to wipe out MMJ as a business that Romer's looks good (well almost) by comparison? Wouldn't surprise me a bit.

People, DON"T BE FOOLED. Demand from your legislators an explanation of why any regulation is needed at all. I have not heard a cogent argument for this at all. Lots of hand-wringing and bare statements that "something must be done" but no actual reasons why. Anytime our illustrious lawmakers, state or federal, start saying that they are bout to fuck something up or screw somebody (in this case both). The first thing they must always convince us of is why is not the best thing to do nothing? What is the harm that is sought to be addressed? Show me some examples of the "crisis" you claim exists.

Then and only then, if you actually believe that there is a problem ( which in this case I most certainly do not, but I suppose reasonable people could disagree) should solutions be discussed. Then, remember that the choices of regulatory approaches are limitless, and we are not limited to the two discussed above. If they cannot agree on a plan that does not cause more harm than good, which every proposal I've seen so far would do, they should DO NOTHING, not do something just to be seen to do something. That government governs best that governs least.

[palerider7777]

I think I see what's happening here. If you've seen both of the legislative proposals I've seen (Romer's and what I've seen called the "law enforcement" proposal, which I think came from the county sheriffs of Colorado, and by the way, why do they need their own lobbyists?) you know that of the two, the latter is by far scarier. I'm starting to think this is intentional. What if the plan all along was to try to gain the support of our community by having a proposal up for consideration at the same time as Romer's that is so draconian and so obviously designed to wipe out MMJ as a business that Romer's looks good (well almost) by comparison? Wouldn't surprise me a bit.

People, DON"T BE FOOLED. Demand from your legislators an explanation of why any regulation is needed at all. I have not heard a cogent argument for this at all. Lots of hand-wringing and bare statements that "something must be done" but no actual reasons why. Anytime our illustrious lawmakers, state or federal, start saying that they are bout to fuck something up or screw somebody (in this case both). The first thing they must always convince us of is why is not the best thing to do nothing? What is the harm that is sought to be addressed? Show me some examples of the "crisis" you claim exists.

Then and only then, if you actually believe that there is a problem ( which in this case I most certainly do not, but I suppose reasonable people could disagree) should solutions be discussed. Then, remember that the choices of regulatory approaches are limitless, and we are not limited to the two discussed above. If they cannot agree on a plan that does not cause more harm than good, which every proposal I've seen so far would do, they should DO NOTHING, not do something just to be seen to do something. That government governs best that governs least.
as u know this is what iv'e been saying most on these boards"mostly non growers" give the state tons of ammo to use against us.they whine that everything is over priced no good and a rip off.the leo and state love this kindda talk.seeing it as a huge failure that only they can step in and fix.you know who is gunna pay the much bigger price in the end? the patient.these cry babies thing it's rough now and price is a rip off just wait people.it's funny that these peeps thing it's a rip off to pay a grow for his work but when state jumps in and takes over and doubles or triples the price there just fine with it roflmao..

besides that just thinking here but i have been thinking,what if all this was just a scam anyways?what if they make it legal just long enough to flush growers and smokers outta the wood works only to see who they are.then change the laws to where they control it all again?then they have your name as who does what?then they can keep tabs on you knowing once growing is in your blood it never goes away.kindda like gold fever for prospectors lmao.just a thought not saying it's so...hope not but leo hates us even more than ever now u can bank on that 1.to them it's like a game and they lost this round and there pissed and want to work overtime to make that round back up.

[senorx12562]

as u know this is what iv'e been saying most on these boards"mostly non growers" give the state tons of ammo to use against us.they whine that everything is over priced no good and a rip off.the leo and state love this kindda talk.seeing it as a huge failure that only they can step in and fix.you know who is gunna pay the much bigger price in the end? the patient.these cry babies thing it's rough now and price is a rip off just wait people.it's funny that these peeps thing it's a rip off to pay a grow for his work but when state jumps in and takes over and doubles or triples the price there just fine with it roflmao..

besides that just thinking here but i have been thinking,what if all this was just a scam anyways?what if they make it legal just long enough to flush growers and smokers outta the wood works only to see who they are.then change the laws to where they control it all again?then they have your name as who does what?then they can keep tabs on you knowing once growing is in your blood it never goes away.kindda like gold fever for prospectors lmao.just a thought not saying it's so...hope not but leo hates us even more than ever now u can bank on that 1.to them it's like a game and they lost this round and there pissed and want to work overtime to make that round back up.
I see the old palerider has returned, paranoia intact. I thought I was bad.

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

all of these politicians, leo, city officials and the justice system (what a joke, its just a business now,can you say confict of interest) have all forgotten their place and who they work for. little more than thieves, sellouts, and traitors. all of their hoopin and hollerin is just to keep the dwindling number of nay sayers brainwashed at how bad mmj is. the dea has done its own studies that completely refutes all of their proganda and still they insist pressing foward. now our locals gotta follow suit and walk around touting ignorant claims as fact.even our newspaper and news stations present mj in a negative light referring to it as POT. never do they mention how it slows or even halts the growth rate of some cancers and tumors. or how in a study where alcohol and mj were consumed the mj seemed to protect brain cells a little bit from the ravages of alcohol. or that mj smoker actually tend to get higher air volume ratio in their lung, breathe deep hold hold try not to choke hold contolled exhale with watery eyes:). never hear any benefits just bad publicity. freedom of speech im beginning to wonder.

meded so you can mededicate to mededitate

[palerider7777]

I see the old palerider has returned, paranoia intact. I thought I was bad.

i'd rather be that than a person that lives blind in the world thinking everything is a ok.you know what they say about when one puts his gaurd down.

[senorx12562]

i'd rather be that than a person that lives blind in the world thinking everything is a ok.you know what they say about when one puts his gaurd down.
Sorry palerider, wasn't meaning to criticize. My paranoia level isn't much, if any, lower than yours. Remember, sometimes, paranoia is just good sense. And just because we are paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get us.

[GratefulMeds]

Beware of Regulations, every action has a re-action, Don't let Romer screw this up for the rest of the State because of his imaginary problems that seem to much to do specifically with the Denver scene. Every community in Colorado is unique and should not be subjected to regulations designed for a big city problem. Keep regulation local if you must, but please don't be so hasty to give up your constitutional rights we all fought so hard to secure.

Mark

[senorx12562]

Beware of Regulations, every action has a re-action, Don't let Romer screw this up for the rest of the State because of his imaginary problems that seem to much to do specifically with the Denver scene. Every community in Colorado is unique and should not be subjected to regulations designed for a big city problem. Keep regulation local if you must, but please don't be so hasty to give up your constitutional rights we all fought so hard to secure.

Mark
Actually the city of Denver has its own regs in the works. The rest of the state always gets saddled with legislation meant to address problems limited to urban areas. It has always been that way.

[copobo]

in his bill, there is really nothing aimed at protecting patients. it's all about making sure it's harder/more expensive to get a card.

the only thing he cares about is keeping pot out of the hands of rec users, and giving law enforcement the tools it needs to harass people who would otherwise be law abiding citizens.

They will be attempting to prosecute more medical users and growers, just you wait.

I thought Corry was going to offer up some alternative legislation?