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Noatec

12-15-2009, 02:15 AM

G33K's Log; Grow date 12/03/09
All my research shows the most successful people keep a grow log.
I should have written down when I planted the seeds, but I would estimate approx. 2 weeks to sprout in high nutrient coconut husk and worm poop. They have been up about two weeks.
Re-planted the girls into a deeper pot to stabilize them. Very long stems before first leaves.
Decided I was going to have to bite the bullet and go to the grow shop and spend some money or lose them.

G33k's Log; Grow date 12/04/09
Went nuts at the hydro store today.
Two people came in smelling like weed. Probably a good place to make connections, outside of course. It's funny the don't ask don't tell, unspoken rule.
She knows what everyone is growing, I think she smokes. The shop is doing well.

Got the following:
Dual 400w ballast, w/ 1 HPS & 1 MH
4 mesh pots
Grow Nutrients
Pump / Air Stone / tubing.
Panda Film
Stone medium Hydroton

G33K's Log; Grow date 12/05/09
Clay rinsed until it ran clear.
Holes cut in tubs, and sanded smooth.
Throughly cleaned pots and Tub.
Ran the bubbler for 24Hrs to airate the water.

G33K's Log; Grow date 12/06/09
Four pots of clay pebbles soaking in 50% nutrients.
I'll replant tomorrow evening with a ball of coconut worm mixture made with a coffee filter.

G33K's Log; Grow date 12/14/09
Tokers forgive me for I have sinned. It's been 8 days since my last entry.
Posted a question about temp and got lots of help. Thanks Tinytoon, SpaceNeedle and LOC NAR on probation.
http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/178701-reservior-water-temp.html#post2047216
I put my res on top of a cooler and surrounded the whole thing with a space blanket. Temp is just below 80 now, It started to go past 80 until I turned the fan on. They literally seemed to come to life right before my eyes, it was pretty cool actually. I was up until 4:00 this morning reading forums.

Here's my setup.
1 dual 400W MH/HPS ballast running 18/6.
Space is approx. 5ft x 4ft.
I'm using FLORA NOVA 7-4-10 ( not sure what the numbers mean )
Water was left out ~36 hours then added 50% nutrients and ( rinsed until clear ) hydroton. They have always looked healthy , but this morning it looks like one is showing nut. burn. ( starting to yellow on the tips ). Thinking about adding a pump for slow drip, but I need to get permanent walls up this week.

Side note: I have a bunch of seeds from my last procurement. Really nice cerebral high that seems to really get my creative juices flowing. I've heard of Blueberry Kush, but not sure if this is it. It does leave a nice blueberry after taste though. I checked this out by sharing with my brother in law. He said it tasted like blueberry also. Is this the obvious reason they call it blueberry ?
Heading down to take some pics. I'll post shortly.

hachiman6677

12-15-2009, 02:23 AM

nice niiicee waitin on them pics! mmmm blueberry! try that super lemon haze :greenthumb:

Noatec

12-15-2009, 02:54 AM

Let me clarify, my first grow is unknown, just some seeds from the procurement before the last. I don't know what the strain is, but it's real spacey if that tells you anything....

Noatec

12-15-2009, 03:01 AM

Is there a safe place to post pics ?

Noatec

12-15-2009, 03:10 AM

This was an experiment in slow drip. I used the tiniest drill bit i had to drill a hole in the bottom of the cups. It created a tiny spout that I could aim anywhere I wanted. I call it the "Piss on MyLadies" method. Still, the cups where empty by morning. I think it needs to be a slow drip so next time a sewing needle.
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bonedaddy420

12-15-2009, 03:10 AM

Once you have 20 posts on the forum you can post pics to your replies, but if you want a temporary/alternate solution, you can use photobucket/tinypic, LETS SEE THEM GIRLS!!

oh yeah html is off in some area of the growing forum, not really sure why that is, but it is, use the little " yellow mountain" above the text entry box to link in pictures.

Noatec

12-15-2009, 03:12 AM

Did you get link or pic?

bonedaddy420

12-15-2009, 03:14 AM

neither, its just a bunch of html code. you need to use your link within an IMG tag.

like this
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rerdCuW3WmM/Syb764B0DaI/AAAAAAAAET4/twI7smbcNMI/s144/IMG_4395.JPG

Noatec

12-15-2009, 03:24 AM

How about this ? Any better ?
http://i47.tinypic.com/2ijhwe9.jpg
I don't know what the best barometric pressure is for these ladies but the barometer is there just in case.....

mainegrown

12-15-2009, 03:27 AM

cant wait to see those pics, i willl watch and see how much luck you have with a hydro setup.. as i am thinking about putting one together soon
good luck bro
-J'Awake

Noatec

12-15-2009, 03:33 AM

Holy Crap !!!!! That's HUGE !!!!!
Ok, I cannot upload pictures high yet. Note to self, work on that.
Let's try something a little smaller.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2agqick.jpg

Noatec

12-15-2009, 03:44 AM

Aaaaaaaand one for the road........
I'm out for the night Fellas, even the G33K unplugs....
http://i47.tinypic.com/otki8y_th.jpg

Noatec

12-16-2009, 02:49 AM

G33K's Log; Grow date 12/15/09
My oscillating fan fell while I was at work so things where a little hot when I got home. No harm done though.
Got an aquarium thermometer for the rez.
Showing 59 degrees.
Now I need to figure out humidity.
How big a deal is humidity anyhow? Kinda hard to keep things moist in the winter.

Noatec

12-17-2009, 12:58 AM

G33K's Log; Grow date 12/16/09
PH is at 6.5 Need to check forums for optimal.
Top temp=79 rez=60
When should I change my rez out?
Ladies are taking off now. Thing I'll toke to celebrate.
Working on getting some MauGhani seeds. My bro in law plays in a metal band, one of the guitarist has a serious hook up.

Noatec

12-17-2009, 08:54 PM

G33K's Log; Grow date 12/17/09 14:53

I've never met so many friendly, laid back, obviously, cool people than when I started reading these forums. Seems no matter where you go people are always eager and willing to help the new guy. Although I don't really feel like a new guy. I researched Hydroponics and indoor growing for months before buying anything. When a regular connection dried up I had to do something or go without. I don't like to go without a nice wave on my 8ft. rusty.

Noatec

12-22-2009, 01:36 AM

Hey guys,
The girls are looking good so far. Here's a couple pics.
Thoughts and comments welcome.

http://i46.tinypic.com/ojjkn8.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2iatpgm.jpg

jakester

12-22-2009, 02:03 AM

Looks great...just let em do their thing.

bharv2003

12-22-2009, 02:37 AM

Looking good man...keep it up! :thumbsup:

Noatec

12-24-2009, 03:53 AM

Ran out of 2x4s for the walls, so I'll use my HD gift card from my brother to buy more. The plants are looking very healthy and green. I'm curious when to add nutes. I don't want to mess up a good thing.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks in Advance,

The Noatec

Here's pics from this evening.....
http://i50.tinypic.com/dm9ws1.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/5wcdck.jpg

TruePyroman

12-24-2009, 04:28 AM

you need to get those temps down a bit to optimize the grow condition. they are going to be stressed at that high of a temp, so they'll grow slower. what kinda venting you got?

mainegrown

12-24-2009, 05:30 AM

just make the air in there flow better and have a little vent and you will be fine... remember odor control.

Noatec

12-24-2009, 01:37 PM

I adjusted the small oscillating fan and got the temp down to 83. Odor is starting to become an issue. Although my wife and I rather enjoy the smell. So far you can only smell it in the basement. I'll finish framing the walls this weekend. Not sure where to run the vent.

Shovelhandle

12-24-2009, 02:24 PM

There we go! Nice photos.

Good luck with th egrow, I'll be checking it out.

Shovel

Noatec

12-24-2009, 10:06 PM

It's my understanding that you cannot sex them until they are two weeks into flowering, is this correct?

mainegrown

12-24-2009, 10:11 PM

naw around 4 weeks i think they start to show pre flowers.. not sure if the time is right but they DO show before you flower if you give em more time..
merry christmas bro
-J

bonedaddy420

12-24-2009, 10:36 PM

Mainegrown is kinda right, some strains will show sex early, while still in veg, some might not, and yeah, it takes about 2 weeks or so of 12/12 to find out. This is where cloning comes into play. If you have to space/supplies, you clone each of your plants, get roots, and throw them into 12/12 while the mother of the clones continues to veg and get bigger/heal, then you know which plants are females and which are males.

Noatec

12-24-2009, 10:52 PM

I'll try to get a closeup shot of one of the internodes this evening. I don't see anything but new leaves forming. After last night I only have a single bowl left, but I still don't want to rush things.

Thanks for all the great feedback.
Merry Christmas All !!!!!!
:noel:

bonedaddy420

12-24-2009, 10:56 PM

Don't rush things man, good things come to people with patience. Expect to still have to buy some weed at least for another 3 months.

mainegrown

12-24-2009, 11:27 PM

yep its all wbout waiting and if i had had more patience then i would be way ahead of where i am now.
so hold off and let the clones speak.
-J

Noatec

12-25-2009, 02:37 AM

I just made a grand discovery. The fireplace has two small access doors in the basement. I's right next to the grow room so I can vent up the fireplace. I'll send a pic. Got a nice christmas eve beam & bud buzz going right now.

mainegrown

12-25-2009, 04:21 AM

Noatec

12-26-2009, 03:30 AM

Started Season 1 of Weeds with my wife. Blizzard outside.

Shovelhandle

12-26-2009, 04:22 PM

the strains I normally grow will show sex at 6 weeks of veg. If I put them into flower earlier (like week 4) they show within a week.

Noatec

12-27-2009, 01:53 AM

Braved the weather to get more 2x4s to finish framing. All that's left is to cut and put up the walls and staple down the panda film. I'll post a close up pic tomorrow. I'll bet someone can sex them.

mainegrown

12-27-2009, 06:26 AM

season one is GREAT.. i personally like seasons two and three more.. just me though
-J

Noatec

12-28-2009, 12:32 AM

I agree, season 2 & 3 are the best. I have yet to see season 4 or 5. Pretty long wait on netflix for it.
Finished putting up the walls and took care of the ventilation issue. Luck would have it that there is an unused opening in the vent side of the fireplace.

Can anyone sex this plant?
<a href="http://www.cannabis.com/"><img src="http://www.cannabis.com/files/photos/7caf5e22ea3eb81L.jpg" border="0" width="1657" alt="Can anyone sex this?" /></a>

Noatec

12-28-2009, 01:22 AM

Second attempt at linking this photo.
http://www.cannabis.com/files/photos/7caf5e22ea3eb81L.jpg

mainegrown

12-28-2009, 03:53 AM

sorry no help with the sex..to my inexperienced eye there is no sex yet...just me though wait for some of the others to help..
and seasons 4-5 are CRAZY!! Nancy is crazzy and so is her youngest, thats all i got to say about that but it gets better and better in my opinion...
-J

Noatec

01-02-2010, 12:27 AM

G33K's Log; Grow date 1/1/10 18:24

Here's my first pics of the new year. Getting close to 6 inches tall.

Noatec

01-07-2010, 05:20 AM

Hey all,
Wow !!! My four plants have really taken off. I'll post pics in the AM.
They are ~10 inches tall now. I'm considering starting the flower stage this weekend.
At their current rate of growth they should be a foot tall by then, however the nodes have not started to alternate. So far I've been really patient with this process, which completely out of character for me.
I've got 12 Blueberry strain seeds I plan on starting on the 12/12 from seedling method I read about when I start flower on the four I've got cooking now.

I'm sure there are many opinions on this, love to hear them.

Thanks all.

mainegrown

01-07-2010, 08:04 AM

how bout some pics bro?? those look like so real fat leaves.. i wish i had genetics that pure..
i have found that throwing plants into flower right after they have a few nodes puts way too much stress on them and seems like a waste of electricity as they will never reach their true potential that way. if you were to give them even a month then they would be much larger and able to give you a WAY better yield.. just my :twocents: but it comes from experience..
and you can only push the gurls to flower so fast so why waste half that time in the dark?? you could give em 24hr light for a month and then make em twice the yield..
hope that helps some
-MG

Noatec

01-07-2010, 05:35 PM

Noatec

01-13-2010, 04:17 AM

Hey Experienced Growers,
Help me out please....
I'm considering going into flower now.
The nodes are tight and bushy.
All you guru's out there please send feedback.
Maingrown where are you?

mainegrown

01-13-2010, 06:52 AM

I don't see any pre-flowers yet.
My objective is to yield enough to last me until grow 2 harvest.
I still don't know the sex, but my gut tells me 3 of 4.
Thanks for the info MG.

BTW: Mainegrow reminds me of Waynegrow from the movie "Heat".

i am here, have no fear..
i have to do a transplant and life kinda blew up..
but i am watching bro..
looking good tho.

i got a couple q's
how long till your next harvest and how much you smoke?
i figure i will have enough from my grow to last for a while and your gurls are bigger than when i put mine into flower..
remind me what you are growing under..
sorry im kinda distracted.. keep it up

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

Noatec

01-13-2010, 04:20 PM

Sorry to hear you got drama in your life. Good luck with whatever you are going through. I smoke mostly on the weekends so I stretch q pretty far. I should be able to harvest again in about 3 months.

EnhAnceD

01-13-2010, 10:57 PM

Hey Noatec. Very nice DWC grow you have there. Actually ursetup is what I would love to have at somepoint. Right now Im all cfl and LED. I wanted to answer some of your questions that I read earlier.
- Preflowers appear after 4-6 weeks on all cannabis plants. Right where you took that picture earlier you will see a small pistol with 2 this hairs coming out the tip or a round ball that has no hair 2-4 days after noticing. Google Picture Cannabis preflowers and youll see. 100% tellable just by your eye.
- Because your doing 4 plants in that size container I would suggest going into flower now. 4-6 weeks of veg is enough root growth as to not stress the plant with the change of light cycle but you can wait longer if you want. The more roots you have the bigger your buds can be. Of course there are alot of other variables, but you will see about 20-30% growth during the next 8-10 weeks of flowering.
- I think your light might be too close. Looks about a foot?. Either way I dont use hps/mh so i dont know exactly, but I think about 16-18inches from tops for mh/hps is good from what Iv read. You should research HPS light distance from cannabis.
- Also. For future sexing, since you already have your hand in the water hehe. pun intended. you should try out a DIY DWC Bubble CLoner. Same exact thing u got there just 20 bucks not....w.e you paid for yours and much smaller. You can veg for 3 weeks, maybe start a little lst for some shoots after 1 week or so and at 3 weeks snip a cutting and put her in the bubbler. 4-5 days u got roots. threw her into 12/12 and within a week or 2 youll see the flowers. This would take more precise timing as you could probably tell the sex without taking a cutting within that 4-6 weeks but if you plant on say doing 1 or 2 plants next time you would be able to veg the plant much longer by which taking a cutting for sex would be benificial as to not waste yoru time. Food for thought I guess.

mainegrown

01-14-2010, 01:37 AM

^^ is a nice post.. listen to enhanced..
i have my 600 14-18" above the tops of my gurls..
and they seem to be loving it..
if you stretch it that far you should be fine.. you are looking at a min of
a couple oz.s of nice dope..
and if YOURS dont get seeded maybe more? idk
i am used to outdoor and 1/2 lb a plant so this indoor stuff is new to me..

and not really drama but kinda.. and thanks for the well wishes..

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

Noatec

01-14-2010, 03:48 PM

I've raised the light as suggested. Thanks for the great input. I really want to clone these so I can keep the strain alive, whatever it is. It was really heady and spacey. I may have mentioned before, but it was the only shit that made me feel like I was moving backward while I'm walking forward. REALLY trippy and long lasting. Really like the new Avatar MG !!!!
I'm going into flower on Friday. Need to wait for payday to get supplies.

Got my brother in-laws band coming over on Friday night also. One of the guitarist has some MauiGhanni. Going to try to get some seeds from him.

Have a good weekend all.

EnhAnceD

01-14-2010, 03:57 PM

Good to hear. Youll find that each strain is different with the lights, indicas tent to stretch almost either way b.c they are the ones that grow big, 8foot tall mofos that when smoked ur in a coma. Where sativas are shorter, better indoor growable, with a happy funny munchy high. I like a mix, but youll find when the light is too far they will stretch somewhat. Did you look for any substancial information on exactly how far? Glad to hear your going into flower tomorrow as well. Just a suggestion. It does look a bit crowded uptop there with the 4. You might want to do a few tuckings or tie down some branches to help those main tops get to the sun. Im excited to see this.

mainegrown

01-14-2010, 04:02 PM

Noatec

01-14-2010, 04:16 PM

EnhAnceD

01-14-2010, 04:19 PM

your right, the size is wrong. Im so baked hahaha. Always lovin the wake n bake haha. yeah indicas are short sativas are big. indicas better indoor. sativas better outdoor. indicas mellow chill bake sativas hippy happy bake. I just looked to make sure b.c i was sure i new this haha.

Noatec

01-14-2010, 05:43 PM

Hey got a quick question tokers.
I was planning on using Flora Nova Bloom 4-8-7 since I used the Flora Nova Grow. Can I start them full strength or should I ease them into it? 25 50 then 100%

Brain chemistry is completely different when you first wake up. That's why the wake & bake is so nice. :D

EnhAnceD

01-14-2010, 08:50 PM

Always start with 1/4 strength nutes all the time. Set up a schedule. I water when needed by the weight of the pot so I never over water. But do something like every other water use nutes. Start a 1/4 on day one, wait 2-4 days to water, water using water, then got half, stay at half for a week and see if you get any tips burning. If they are still looking good, keep going at 50% or go to 75%. You should flush once a month when using nutes and remember you need to do a nice flush 2 weeks prior to eta of crop and dont water the last week. This will make the plant pull all nutrients from itself and the leaves. It will yellow like crazy but ur budds will not taste chemically. Iv also read that you can leave the lights off the last 3-4 days will imporve dry time and swell.

BTW-you might wanna even start at 50% and try adding the bloom nutes right before you turn the lights over to 12/12. The NPK is low but youll have to give it a try to know.

mainegrown

01-15-2010, 04:33 AM

um.. i agree.. you should start at 1/2 what the bottle says..
if they are organic then you may even end up OVER the
bottle recommendations but that is eventual.. and organics are forgiving! :)
nice idea enhanced i will try to run w/o lights on one of the gurls and see if that hels or hurts her.. i have heard of 24 hrs before flower to speed up the process..
hope all goes well

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

Noatec

01-16-2010, 09:20 PM

Hey all,
Took some clones before changing out the rez and adding 1/4 strength Flora Nova bloom. 12/12 starts at 4PM off tomorrow. I went with 4pm on and 4am off since that most closely mirrors my work schedule.

EnhAnceD

01-17-2010, 05:36 AM

Keep the strain alive. PICTURESSSSS:)

Noatec

01-20-2010, 11:40 PM

G33K's Log: Grow date 1/20/10
DWC 400w HPS 12/12 Strain:unknown mix(heavy sativa bag seed) Flower:5days RoomTemp:~75-80 RezTemp:~60-65 PH:6.0 Nutes:ForaNova Bloom PPM:~ 50%
Hey Kids,
5 days into flower now.
Here's some pics.

Noatec

01-21-2010, 10:13 PM

This is my newbie call on the sex based on looking at a gazillion pics lately.
the thumbnails are in the following order:
[SP1] [SP2] [SP3]
[SP4] [Full PLants]

SP1=Female
SP2=Male
SP3=Female
SP4=Female

Thoughts?

Noatec

01-25-2010, 04:11 AM

Funny story:
Had to shutoff main power to the house today to relocate a 220 for the new dryer. My 12/12 cycle is on the 4s. The work took exactly 20 minutes. :thumbsup:
I think I'll leave things just the way they are.:D

Noatec

01-26-2010, 01:56 AM

Chopped down the 2 males today. The 2 girls can spread out and take off now.
Anyone ever have luck cooking with males?

Noatec

02-02-2010, 03:41 AM

Here's a couple pics from day 18 of flower.

EnhAnceD

02-03-2010, 05:05 AM

Looking good man. Deff wouldnt cook with a male it aint got anything worth the time. Either toss it or keep them for pollin.

jakester

02-03-2010, 05:21 AM

Looking good man. Deff wouldnt cook with a male it aint got anything worth the time. Either toss it or keep them for pollin.I disagree. Enough leaf will make a decent batch of cookies.

EnhAnceD

02-06-2010, 09:06 AM

I disagree. Enough leaf will make a decent batch of cookies.

I agree, if the skuff is from a female plant, I keep all my leaves no matter if they have trichs on them or not from females, but a male plant, dont waste your time, or do lol, Id never tho.

Noatec

02-07-2010, 01:28 AM

Day 22 of flower:
I've employed two techniques I've recently read about.
LST:
I happen to have some hemp string left over from a craft project my wife and I did. What better to use as a tie down. I made slip knots and tightened it a little each day. The side nodes react surprisingly fast.
I'm also half cutting large fan leaves that are blocking buds from direct light rather than removing them completely.
Things are looking good from my perspective. Lots of healthy flowers.
Here's some pics.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Seems to be just the waiting game now......

Noatec

02-14-2010, 04:27 AM

This is the end of week 4. Can anyone give some feedback on development ?
Is it wishful thinking to think my buds should be bigger?

Noatec

02-24-2010, 03:13 AM

Hey guys,
Have a little problem.
coming up on week 6 in flower.
Some of the top older leaves have developed what appears by reference to be Mg Def.
The water here is pretty hard.
The two girls don't seem to be consuming nutz like the used to.
Is this lock out?
If so what's the best way to fix it?
Thanks in advance.