First time Grower (Outdoors), Please Guide me :)

[Dadegohard17]

[B]Hey everyone thanks in Advance,
Im a first time grower in Miami, Fl.. this might help but I live in Homestead, which is a city-town in FL, who is surrounded by crops and farms due to good sunlight duration so I figured it would be a good idea to start growing :jointsmile:.

Im growing 2 crip plants,
2 diesel plants and 1 outdoor chronic, they were planted at diffrent times due to seed shipment. :hippy::hippy::hippy:

The crip plants are about 22 days (12/14/09)
outdoor chronic is about 11 days old (12/14/09)
and the diesel seeds were just planted at seedlings (12/14/09)

My crip plants are looking amazing, better than expected. If you smell the middle of the flower you can smell a slight odor of CRIPPY. (PICS WILL BE UP SOON I PROMISE)

Outdoor chronic is still young, still kinda Stretching..
and the Diesel is barely 2cm out the soil. only time will tell ;)

I just want a couple pointers for my Crip plants.
I planted them 11/22/09, with all purpose flower and vegetable soil.
after the 2nd week I fed them all purpose plant food "more boom for your bloom" (13-13-13) after that they started growing real NICE.

Im on my 3rd week now, there still in there jiffy pots ima transplant as soon as someone helps me out >_>,
Is this the Vegatating stage? and when I transplant them to there pernament home do I start with the Nitrogen feeding? and if so how much? once a week? or once every third watering or so? and any recommended nitrogen based plant food for them considering there outdoor or really doesnt matter?
(i.e: 30-15-15, 25-10-15, 20-10-10) ???

PLEASE HELP, THANKS IN ADVANCE I KNOW I WILL FIND GOOD ANSWERS ;)

:rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke:B]

[Dadegohard17]

BUMP!

[headshake]

BUMP!

you might want to give people some time to respond to your posts before you decide to go bumping them.

as for the help you need, you might want to start reading your tail off. the outdoor growing season is from the end of march til the end of october (maybe later in some regions).

so what exactly are your questions?


-shake

[Dadegohard17]

you might want to give people some time to respond to your posts before you decide to go bumping them.

as for the help you need, you might want to start reading your tail off. the outdoor growing season is from the end of march til the end of october (maybe later in some regions).

so what exactly are your questions?


-shake
Is this the Vegatating stage? and when I transplant them to there pernament home do I start with the Nitrogen feeding? and if so how much? once a week? or once every third watering or so? and any recommended nitrogen based plant food for them considering there outdoor or really doesnt matter?
(i.e: 30-15-15, 25-10-15, 20-10-10) ???

[headshake]

do you have any idea about the life cycle of a cannabis plant? if not i suggest you start your reading there.

-shake

[Dadegohard17]

thanks, you been a great help bro.........

[ForgetClassC]

These forums have numerous answers to all the questions you may have, but shake it correct, you must first learn the basic necessities a plant needs to survive. Look in Basic Growing to make sure you have all your chickens in a line(maybe that saying applies). A plant needs more than Nitrogen to survive. Just read, then ask.

[Dadegohard17]

I understand that, obviously.. you guys are literally insulting my intelligence.
a plant needs Nitrogen, Potassium and Phosophrous... I meant Nitrogen for the vegetating stage... and phosphate for flowering....
Im just asking simple questions and you guys are making it more complicated than what it is...

[redtails]

Sorry Dade, I know some people like to be a little more interactive with their learning(asking ?'s & reading). I call the veg stage everything from when they pop ground until the go into flower but some people include a seedling stage that's 2 or 3 weeks I believe. I also fertilize every other watering according to this guide (http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/indoor-growing/232511d1259804533-need-some-quick-advice-foxfarmfeedschedule.pdf) with fox farm fertilizers. Hope this helps.

[Dadegohard17]

Thanks it does help, ill help pics up soon.

[mainegrown]

i wish i didnt have a foot of snow on the ground or i would have my gurls in the back yard... dont get caught with ur plants in some farmers feild... at a min he will just wait till they are done and then harvest for you... i got a friend that has a christmas tree farm and he jokes about all of the christmas money he gets to buy his kids toys from idiots that aim for a crop on his land... moral. be safe bro
-J"Stoned

[headshake]

I understand that, obviously.. you guys are literally insulting my intelligence.
a plant needs Nitrogen, Potassium and Phosophrous... I meant Nitrogen for the vegetating stage... and phosphate for flowering....
Im just asking simple questions and you guys are making it more complicated than what it is...

no one is insulting your intelligence but yourself. not to mention making yourself look lazy and showing the lack of a solid work ethic. no one is here to pick on anyone (trust me they don't last long!) or point fingers at people or what have you.

with that being said people are not here to hold hands or spoon feed either. if you ask, well thought out, logical questions you usually get the answers you need. if you ask questions that have been posted time and again then expect to get some heat. learn to use the search function, or better yet google. you can put something like this:

search term site:cannabis.com

into google and it will search only the site you specified, in this case cannabis.com.

if you ask newb questions that SHOW that you obviously don't have the intelligence for growing cannabis at this point and time then again, expect some shit.


-shake

[Dadegohard17]

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Do they look healthyy?

[mainegrown]

i dont know man i think i agree with shov... there arnt any pics to see

[Dadegohard17]

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sorry about other post, here are some pics. will have better ones up soon.

[headshake]

they look healthy enough. you might want to add some perlite to your soil. it looks a little thick. the plants roots like oxygen and to dry out between waterings.

-shake

[Dadegohard17]

Thanks, I will ASAP.
One quick question, On of the plants all the way at the bottom, the 2 leaves that look normal. the ones that are not spiked, are turning brown/yellowish. its not moving up to the top tho. just staying on those bottom leaves.. Anything I can do? Or is that common? Better pics will be coming soon I promise (Ordered a Digi Cam)..

[Dadegohard17]

UPDATE: they didnt sprout.. maybe a bad seed or something.. gonna throw some in germination again and replant them.

[redtails]

How are you germinating them? I put mine in a wet paper towel inside an open ziplok and they crack that way within a day for me, then into the soil. If for some reason they don't, you can take some fine grit sandpaper and skuff up the shell a bit, kind of weakening it so the root can pop through. The cotyledons often die (the round leaves the plant starts with), it's no big deal as long as it stays with those and doesn't spread. Also the roots like depth, looks like you're using styrofoam bowls? which don't have much room to grow downward. This can make it a pain to transplant as well.

[Dadegohard17]

Thanks im gonna transplant now as we speak.
and umm I germinate them by throwing in a cup filled with 1/3 water, at first they float at the top and then they sink to the bottom and the root starts to come out. Im gonna try ur method tho.

Thankss again.

[Dadegohard17]

Transplanted it to a bigger pot,
Um a couple questions.. Now that there in a bigger pot, Obviously I feed it more right?
and Is it ok to have a clean sterilized spray bottle filled with water, and spraying mists of water on the plant leaves occasionally.. not 2 much..??

Thanks in Advance :)

[ForgetClassC]

Good thing you transplanted, was that thing in a paper bowl? Anyways, like shake said, you need to add Perlite to your soil mixture so that over time the waterings don't compress the soil so the water cannot penetrate. You need to water a plant when it needs it, that's the only way to say it, when the soil is dry, let it stay dry for a day or 2, then water it until a small amount comes out the bottom. Then let it dry out completely again. Its called weed for a reason, its doesn't need much water and can live through most anything that NATURE can give it. That should hold ya off for a bit, keep the good questions coming.

Also, for the initial question, yes the plant needs nitrogen during veg, as well as it needs phosphate and potassium at the same time, during flower you just want to cut and eventually eliminate the N to get rid of the harshness.

Sorry for rambling.

-C

[Dadegohard17]

ForgetClassC, Thanks that helped alot..
Im gonna add Peralite as soon as I get my car (hour or so)..
One noob question, Is it ok for me to Spray mists of water on the weed leaves every now and then?? (w/ a spray bottle filled with water)?

Thanks in Advance, You guys been plenty help. :hippy::hippy:

[redtails]

It's called foliar feeding/spraying, and yes it's ok. Don't make the mistake I did and do it in full bright light or the water droplets create a magnifying glass and burn spots onto your plants.

[Dadegohard17]

Im growing out doors, So make sure when I do it that the sun is out and shining right? :)
Thanks. Will have new pics up soon.
and one Question, there about to be a month old. and there 4 inches tall? Is that a good or bad thing? I kidna want them short since there backyard plants? but does that mean there stunting there growth or its just gonna be a bushy plant?

Thanks in Advance :)

[redtails]

Quite the opposite, you want to spray them when they are shaded.

[Dadegohard17]

Hm, Ok Thanks.
So after the sun goes down? I can foilar feed them?

[Dadegohard17]

One of the 2 Crip plants (the other that doesnt have the slight crip odor), At the bottom the spiked leaves have 1 or 2 very tiny brown spots and slight yellow at the edge of leave, and overall the whole leave is looking somewhat Pale..

On the other hand the other suspected female plant is growing awfully nice,

Please help, THANKS! :stoned::stoned::stoned::stoned:

[ForgetClassC]

Well first off, the sun doesn't need to be down exactly, just not direct sunlight. On a cloudy day, the sky still gives off a good amount of ambient and healthy light(around 2,400 foot candles). The reason is to not burn the plants like redtails said. And giving them just water isn't exactly foliar feeding, and also, unless the plants are completely dry they shouldn't need more water. The discoloration might be due to the over-watering. When a plants roots are wet, they cannot take in nutrients like when they are dry. Think about it like this, when you are eating, you can't take a bite and a drink at the same time, needs to be a separation. When the roots aren't oxygenated enough they start to just adsorb the nutrients in the leaves. Let them dry out and see what happens. The worst thing people do to their first plants is baby them.

-C

[Dadegohard17]

Alright, Im gonna dry em out and see what happens..
Thanks again.
You guys are being plenty of help,
Ill have new pics up tomorrow.

[Dadegohard17]

Temp outside today are around 77-70 F,
Mostly cloudly, there experienceing a mini trop storm. just rain.
You think any damages will occur? Will they survive? Please help, Im worried about them :(

[redtails]

Only prob I've ever had with rain was the plants getting washed out of the soil, but you need to watch for bud rot if flowering and make sure there's not a pool of water after the rain.

[Dadegohard17]

There still growing, so I dont have to worry about flowering.. but yeah I noticed some soil washed out from the top, I almost saw the roots coming out..
So I put some soil over the top. Pics will be up 2morrow.
Thanks in Advance, :)

[kaiten408]

Good luck, plants look good so far :jointsmile:

[mainegrown]

hope the storm only helps with the watering and does not hurt ur babies
-J

[Dadegohard17]

Been 2 days of like 60 F out here, pretty cold for the plants i think.
there looking a lil depressed right now.. i havent watered them, cause of the cold. the soil is almost dried out.. anythign i can do to protect em?

Thanks in advance.

[redtails]

Greenhouse, if you have like a clear rubbermaid you could throw that over them and it'll trap heat in there from the sun. Be careful not to let them get too hot though

[Dadegohard17]

alright,
thanks for the pointer :)
keep em coming.

[Dadegohard17]

Tomorrow ill be transplanting my babys to there way bigger and maybe pernament homes..

I'll be using Miracle Gro Cactus and Citrus Soil, Is that any good?
any recommended soils?
and i also have a question.

I have some all purpose miracle gro plant food soluble, its like a 1$ coke shaped green bottle filled with "nutriend water".. but it only can get used my like some special liqua feeder it comes with, like u attatch to the bottle?
idk if anyone ever heard of this? but do you think its okay to use?
it has nitrogen, phosphate, and potassium.
heres a link to it on a website:
Estabrook's - Gardening Products - Fertilizers - Miracle-Gro Liquafeed Starter Kit (http://www.estabrooksonline.com/products2/fertilizer/product.asp?id=liquafeed_starter_kit)

Ill have new pics up 2 morrow of before and after transplant, :jointsmile:

PLease help,
First time grower, new at this but willing to learn alot.

Thanks in Advance :hippy:

[Dadegohard17]

Bump.
Sorry about pic delay, i promise ill have some up by tonight.
But I transplanted them to bigger, 5x5 pot with the soil i posted earlier.
Miracle Gro Cactus and Citrus Soil.
They seem to love there new homes, there doing fine. i noticed a increase in their height, and the leaves are a lilttle bit lighter green now as in healthier.

Promise to have pics up soon,
Any tips, pointers?
Should I start Foilar feeding them?
righht now i have a spray bottle with just reg balanced ph level water and i spray them occasionally when the sun is shaded for good 15mins during the day. (2-3 times at max)
anything else I can start doign to get these babys going.
and my girl is doing lovely. she smells delicious. I can see pistils already, about 2 or 3 of them. (pics coming).

Thanks in Advance.

[deleafer2220]

Few things to start this off:

Beeing you are from Florida (Which is a Zero Tolerance/NonMedical State) I do not advise putting your personal info such as your City/County and describing the where abouts of where you live on a Public Site that is mainly focused on MEDICAL PATIENTS (It gives the site a bad rep, which is the last thing this site needs). Just a word of advice from someone with best interests for the site.

Next with Soils/Mixes, with Veg you would want more N then P and K but when Flowering its opposite you want more P and K then N.

If you are using Miracle Grow Nutes or anything else i advise using 1/4-1/2 of recommended dosage till you start to get the hang of things. This will help prevent any Nute Burn in future use.

As for Foliar Feeding it has never done much for me but thats just me giving my opinion on a hypothetical situation...

So there are some more tips for the ol' NoteBook, remember have fun and be safe !! :thumbsup:

P.S. Do you have a pH meter of some sort ? Its critical at times specially with outdoors and rain water tending to be acidic in certain regions...

[Dadegohard17]

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Tell me what you think,
I already transplanted it to her bigger/final pot with some miracle gro cactus and citrus soil. its doing real nice.

I also got some plant food 2-7-7 concetrated.
it says 6-8 drops per gallon, I only put 4 for now.
and I also dropped one drop into my spray bottle.
Should I start to Foilar feed?
like spray were the buds are growing outta of?
Tips and Pointers please.
Thanks in advance.