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mainegrown
12-12-2009, 11:38 PM
I have a Discrete Indoor Grow aka DIG going on in my bedroom right now.. it is a 600w hps with 4 23w cfls under it starting to flower a second round of 6 plants. there are 19 baby's under the HPS and another 12 in the closet.
here are some current pics please tell me what you think..
thanks,
-J'Stoned

mainegrown
12-12-2009, 11:51 PM
here we go

bonedaddy420
12-13-2009, 12:09 AM
So what was wrong with you other thread that you needed to make another?

mainegrown
12-13-2009, 01:32 AM
it wouldnt let me post pictures.. if i could have i would have continued it... but i have a mac and i dont know how to make it work al the time.. so i decided to give it another try and it worked.. yall love pics rite??

mainegrown
12-13-2009, 02:47 AM
herre are some more pics... god view and process for getting where it is now more to come later... once i can remove my face from the pics... lol

bluntpasser
12-13-2009, 09:17 AM
Nice setup MG, looking forward to watching this log develop.:thumbsup:

mainegrown
12-14-2009, 01:44 AM
thanks BP.. i appreciate the comment and i love what you do mann

so i have more and new pics to give you guys they have to wait till later cause i have a ton of movies that are using up the bandwidth right now... but later tonite

-J'stoned

mainegrown
12-14-2009, 05:27 AM
pic one closet pic two level 2 of DIG pics 3-4 level one of DIGpic 5 topping of plant #1...i have 6 plants marked.. the biggest 6 of the batch
i am gonna feed and water all of the plants on the top half.. level #1 of the DIG tomorrow and a day later for the plants on the bottom half
another 10 plants in the closet are gonna be transfered to solo cups tonight and i will post pics of that in the AM..
also i have another batch of seeds starting as of 3 AM today

monny10
12-14-2009, 08:32 AM
Hi mainegrown,

Gonna follow your grow man, :thumbsup:

Is that glass you have underneath your lamp? I have a sheet of perspex in my veg cab which works a treat..... So what kind of temps do you get with the 600w sodium? how close without burning those girls can you get by using the glass?

cheers

mainegrown
12-14-2009, 11:23 AM
Hi mainegrown,

Gonna follow your grow man, :thumbsup:

Is that glass you have underneath your lamp? I have a sheet of perspex in my veg cab which works a treat..... So what kind of temps do you get with the 600w sodium? how close without burning those girls can you get by using the glass?

cheers

that is a piece of plexi-glass... you know the plastic glass sh*t..
i hold the temps at ~80*F @ one foot away from the glass.. the plants are more like 2 feet away though..i am thinking of ways to get the gurls closer to the lamp.. and bwt it is an ok set-up i know it has TONS of room for improvement and i am willing and eager to hear any ideas anyone has that are kinda inexpensive but can be challenging and time consuming cause i am a sharp cookie and i ahve time to kill

so what does everyone think of the new plants and why are they so stunted compared to the others??
-J'Stoned

monny10
12-14-2009, 01:50 PM
that is a piece of plexi-glass... you know the plastic glass sh*t..

Aye, thats the same stuff I've used.... It's good stuff...I was curious if the heat from the 600 would melt it though..... Just for future reference if I ever decide to up my wattage!

mainegrown
12-14-2009, 04:01 PM
mine dont but i got a couple hundred cfm's moving across it... my setup stays around 1 degree above room temp and seems to work great..
-J'Tired

bluntpasser
12-15-2009, 08:08 AM
Looking great man, what nutrients are you running for the ladies??

mainegrown
12-15-2009, 09:52 AM
Looking great man, what nutrients are you running for the ladies??

hey BP.. i am currently using Neptune's Harvest Fish 2-4-1... all organic all natural bro
i also have Coast of Maine soil.. in a personal blent used on the island where i was taught all i know about pot growing.. 2 bags of blue and one of red.. any more than 5 bags add one bag of yellow and one of green...
the soil is all organic and if mine wasnt 2 years old it wouldnt need any nutes for the first 2 months of growth
-J"Buzzed

mainegrown
12-15-2009, 08:08 PM
so i got a question for ya'll.. can i use the same ferts that i have going for the soil in a foliar application or would i be better off with something different
i am using Neptune's Harvest Fish.. and in a couple weeks i will be switching to the Fish and Seaweed to kick the blooming into overdrive.. any suggestions about what i should use in the spray bottle... and at 6 PM i will upload pics for everyones viewing pleasure
-J"Stoned

mainegrown
12-15-2009, 10:45 PM
well i was looking at other peoples posts and thought that i should start checking for sex..
and i think i have at least one male what do you people think??

mainegrown
12-15-2009, 10:56 PM
and i think i may have one confirmed gurl!!!

mainegrown
12-16-2009, 04:43 AM
when i first planted seeds for this grow i put the sprouted seeds into the containers they are in now. i must have made more than my fair share of mistakes and had way too many learning experiences..
-first off im not gonna plant more than one seed/clone into a soil mass.
-second i am not gonna use 2 oz dixie cups ANYMORE. the dixie cups have had mold problems, hydration problems, and lastly they had problems leaving the damn cups to move to the 20 oz solo cups i removed from my drinking stash to transplant to.
-third i am gonna have all of the materials ready before i start another major grow. right now i know of at least 3 fans i need just for air circulation. and maybe a second fan pulling air out of the room.
-fourth i am never gonna paint any part of an active grow.. i got paint splatter on one of my plants cause i was too fried to remember to move them all before i opened the paint.
-fifth this kinda goes with the not planting more than one plant per pot, but i have found that it is hard to keep track of what each individual plant is doing
so now i have all of the new seedlings in labeled containers.. now i can keep track of each one, just like a doctor.. ha ha

well now that i have gotten all of that learning experience out of the way heres the fun i have been having tonight.
.
i transplanted 6 seedlings about a week old from dixie cups to solo cups
i also planted another 5 seeds tonight.. in a solo cup to start with. see i might be kinda numb at times but i learn after making the mistake once..

so i have pics of most of what i have done today/nite and also some gemeral status update pics..
any questions hit me up i dont sleep
pic 1- before transplant
pic 2~4- after transplant
pic 5- new seeds (cracked shell)
-J'Drunk

mainegrown
12-16-2009, 04:52 AM
pic 1- god view
pic 2- plant #5 (gurl)
pic 3- back corner of D.I.G.
pic 4- plant #4
pic 5- level 2 of DIG
-J

mainegrown
12-17-2009, 10:01 AM
i have made a couple little changes to my grow..
i now have a MH light in the closet that the veg is in..
i am gonna be moving a few plants back in there to let them veg for a while..
it is way bright but only pushes about 6000 lumens. is this ok??
i also discovered if you leave ferts in water they develop a nasty stink overnite..
here are some new pics of whats up

-J'Geeked
pic one - girl.. lst with many growing tops
pic two - my new veg setup.. 70 watt MH with the vegging babies
pics three ~ five - updates on other girls

mainegrown
12-18-2009, 03:57 AM
i dont have any charged batteries for my camera to show you right now but i think that my plants are getting dehydrated in the dry air.
my temp humidity says 78-80 all day with the door open or closed and it has memory and i do check itt...
i have forced hotair and i think it is drying the air!!
what should i do or is that not what is causing my leaves to curl..
and i also have one plant with one leaf with little brownish yellow spots. i will have the camera b4 i go to sleep and i will update with pics. i will also fill out -shakes troubleshooting form if tha would help but i was hoping someone could fill me in on what was going on. i did search and all of the responses seemed to think i was over nute-ing them or overwatering...
i put 1 T. of Neptune's Harvest in a gallon of water. that gallon fed all of the plantpots 500ml of the bute mix. it had been 3 days and the pots were quite dry.. they looked like this before the watering and i was hoping that was what it was but it dosent seem to be helping...

also i have 7 girls as of now..should that be enough to pull a decent crop outta what i got? i was hopong so but i dont think they are growing the way they should be but they are just over a month past planting..
but it has now been like 16 days of flowering and they are just showing sex?? i thought that took maybe a week?
thanks for any help in advance pics coming soon.

monny10
12-18-2009, 09:04 AM
Hi Mainegrown, :)

With my central heating on in my home the temps in my cabinet are pretty much the same as yours 78-80 F.... ...25 c when its off

So I dont think It's that that's making your girls droop....

Form the pictues you've posted up already...
(Looking nice bye the way! which strain are they?)

They look pretty much like my girls do once I have over watered them slightly!

When the air's too hot and you've got a fan blowing hard... you get a kind of wind burn.... yellow speckles that dry out and go brown.... exactly the same as when your plant leaves accidently touch a CFL!

do you know what I mean? Is it like that?

It's shit when after all your hard work you seem to just be treading water!

I'd go for the troubleshooting form! :thumbsup: I'm sure we'll all help you get the problem sorted! :thumbsup:

mainegrown
12-19-2009, 12:49 AM
update
temp 78 F
humidity 27% till lights came on then dropped fast

sealed the top of the hood to stop light leaks into the DIG
sprayed with light ferts.

heights of the 7 confirmed fems
#1 - 24 cm.
#2 - 19 cm.
#3 - 20 cm.
#4 - 25 cm.
#5 - 24 cm.
#6 - 23 cm.
#7 - 24 cm.

i dont have any genetics to speak of. at least no one around here names their buds. we have green bud and mersh.. sometimes kids will talk up their pot with a name but not really true.. ya know??
very few young growers are starting with really good genetics and that is getting into the local economic situation.
i am running 6-7th generation of three or four varieties.. as well as some really cheap pot thati have no idea where it was originally from.. this is all from outdoor grown for the most part.
that help?? and thanks man

Form the pictues you've posted up already...
(Looking nice bye the way! which strain are they?)

and yes those are kinda my symptoms and they are looking way better today and i am hoping that they will look even better tomorrow


With my central heating on in my home the temps in my cabinet are pretty much the same as yours 78-80 F.... ...25 c when its off

So I dont think It's that that's making your girls droop....

and yes i agree..

They look pretty much like my girls do once I have over watered them slightly!
again thanks for the help and i am gonna fill out a troubleshooting form when i get a chance i have shit blowing up around here. fucking life ya know?
-J

mainegrown
12-20-2009, 12:06 AM
just a quick update..

letting the girls dry out after a bad case of over-watering a few days ago. after they dry out i am thinking about transplanting to one gallon pots. is that big enough?
here are some pics first four from yesterday
last one from today

so far the temperature has remained very good over the last few days even though i moved the girls up a ways. i was concerned but i guess for no reason.
the top of the cab and hood are now sealed much better and this helps i am sure. but i am still having a terrible time getting the humidity up above 20% consistently.

i added a few lights and have showed those in the pics i attached.

thanks for watching
-J

mainegrown
12-20-2009, 07:16 AM
moved all of the plants to much larger container..
have some minor problems listed in the plant problems section
including green shit on the roots of one plant

pics of new plants.
i just had the girls all dryed out and i think i overwatered them. but it did remove all of the air pockets in the soil tho

they seem happy otherwise

mainegrown
12-20-2009, 08:31 PM
so here is a quick question though i doubt anyone will answer..
if i played with the lighting schedule at the beginning of the flowering would that set my harvest date back or not?? i moved it from noon till midnight to 6PM till 6AM.
i am seeing everyone else has plants that look like mine after 2 weeks rather than the almost 3 i am at..
thanks -J

mainegrown
12-20-2009, 11:13 PM
well last night at about midnight i transplanted the girls.. there are now 12 confirmed and re-confirmed females and no unknowns left.
here are pics of all of them with the first pic right after the transplant last night and the rest of the girls as of lights on today.

mainegrown
12-20-2009, 11:18 PM
5~10

mainegrown
12-20-2009, 11:21 PM
10~15

mainegrown
12-20-2009, 11:31 PM
16~20
last pic of veg closet

mainegrown
12-21-2009, 05:38 AM
so i was looking at all of the deficiencies that i though my plants had... well i came to the conclusion that it was all of them!!
so even though i watered the girls only last nite.. when i transplanted.. i decided to halt this problem by.. feeding them
here is what i use i stepped up the feeding from half recommended, they recommend one tablespoon per gallon of water, i decided that this was what got me here so i rectified that by going to double for this once and seeinghow they liked it, i have consistently read it is REALLY hard to burn with all organics.
here is what is on the Neptune's Harvest website :
Nutrient Analysis of Hydrolyzed Fish 2-4-1 fertilizer
Elements
Nitrogen
2.23
Phosphorous
4.35
Potassium
0.30
Calcium
0.75
Sulfur
0.17
Magnesium
0.04
Sodium
0.16
Iron
26.0 ppm
Manganese
3.0 ppm
Copper
< 0.1 ppm
Zinc
9.0 ppm
Boron
2.5 ppm
Molybdenum
< 0.1 ppm
Aluminum
8.0 ppm

monny10
12-22-2009, 09:37 AM
so here is a quick question though i doubt anyone will answer..
if i played with the lighting schedule at the beginning of the flowering would that set my harvest date back or not?? i moved it from noon till midnight to 6PM till 6AM.
i am seeing everyone else has plants that look like mine after 2 weeks rather than the almost 3 i am at..
thanks -J

Hi mainegrown!

Why d'you wanna move it back man?

You could maybe try giving them 13 0n - 11 off ..... Sometimes I go over the 12hrs light schedule and It doesnt seem to affect them.... only because I switch the lights off by hand though...

(poverty = no money for timer);)

my theory is....and I dont know if it's correct? : more light energy = bigger buds.... maybe that extra hour every other day will really benefit them?

Looking good anyway man!... Glad you got the droop sorted! :thumbsup:

mainegrown
12-23-2009, 06:02 PM
i have no idea..i think that i have some really bad light leaks and i am gonna take care of them today.. 90 degree bands and more black tape! hopefully i can get this figured out

mainegrown
12-24-2009, 01:59 AM
today i got a oh meter.. cost $20 and works as far as i can tell..
water PH ~7.0
soil PH ~ 6.9
those are good i think

deleafer2220
12-24-2009, 04:12 PM
You don't really want your pH higher then 7, best at around 6.5, make sure to watch that it doesnt jump or get too high :thumbsup:

mainegrown
12-24-2009, 08:35 PM
thats what i thought but i am in the ok range right.. when i feed next time i will try to bring the PH down a few points but i only have the cheap-y model. it was the only thing available.. like in the whole town!!
merry christmas everyone
-J

redtails
12-25-2009, 07:14 AM
Merry x-mas man!

mainegrown
12-25-2009, 12:37 PM
merry christmas to you too redtails

pics tomorrow and every saturday from now on

mainegrown
12-25-2009, 11:32 PM
first few are over views and the second batch are vegg and third batch are pics of a few of the gurls

mainegrown
12-25-2009, 11:36 PM
these are from yesterday but i am to lazy to take more now
i topped them right after this pic was taken and they all seem to be doing great!!
first pic is of overview yesterday
rest are VEGG

mainegrown
12-25-2009, 11:38 PM
here the rest of the pics of VEGG closet

mainegrown
12-25-2009, 11:39 PM
only a sample i will make a complete gallery later this week..
still too lazy. lol ;)

mainegrown
12-26-2009, 12:27 AM
so here are some little questions that i got..
it has been almost 5 days..(?) since i watered fed the babies
now i am kinda wondering why so long and are they due for more then they have been getting? when the leaves just start to wilt is that a good time or is that too long?

is there any reason to have the air temps above 75?? i have had them fairly consistent at 73 F but it varies at times because i leave a heat vent open or other :jointsmile: moments that i have... lol

sorry to be long winded and all responses always welcome
merry christmas
-J

redtails
12-26-2009, 04:04 PM
Sounds good for the watering, I like to stick my finger about an inch into the soil in the corner & if it's wet I wait. Don't know about benefits of higher heat, I've never grown anything under 75 lol, freaking concrete jungle in the middle of a desert...

BadLuck
12-26-2009, 04:26 PM
Theres a difference between drooping and wilting, slight drooping is fine, wilting is not! Wilting means the plant is already damaged due to heat stress or water stress or whathaveyou.

Ideal growing temp is supposed to be 77-78 f for maximum photosynthesis, but your temps are perfect in my opinion.

Good job and happy growing, good luck with the snow up there.

mainegrown
12-27-2009, 06:50 AM
placed my finger in the buckets,
they were dry as shit so i watered them and fed with 2 tablespoons of Neptune's and one tablespoon of molasses.. i think there is some little micro nutrient deficiency. i cant tell what it is but i think that it cant be too bad cause they are still growing faster and faster..
some of the bottom leaves are still turning brown and shriveling up, slowly.
there are some little spots on the leaves but they are all old and no new ones have appeared in the last week.
fed the vegetative plants yesterday with one tablespoon of same nutrients. they are all really growing vigorously and have put on a few cm of height and most of the older plants are starting to throw out side shoots. the younger plants are still catching up and in a week i will probably top both batches to even out the canopy. i plan to turn this second batch into mothers after i find put which ones are female.
i also cut a clone off one of the girls that started to flower first and placed it directly into a cup of soil. i am going to make a second cutting off tomorrow and place in into a peat cube and a third one with cloning powder into a cube too.
hope everyone had a great x-mas and have a merry new year..:jointsmile::thumbsup:
-J

mainegrown
12-28-2009, 04:19 AM
little update..
i gave all of the pots a lift and they all seem to need water AGAIN!
so tomorrow at lights on i am going to give them all a dose of straight water and see how that treats them..
here are some pics
first one is the vegetative 'room'
second is plant #4
third is bud on #4
fourth is plant #3
fifth is bud on #3

enjoy the pics
-J

mainegrown
12-30-2009, 03:05 AM
the second picture above was a hermie :(
i cut him/her down and harvested what i could off her/him...
im gonna get hammered now!!
-J

monny10
12-30-2009, 10:33 AM
How long have your other plants got to go until the chop mainegrown?

mainegrown
12-30-2009, 10:44 AM
How long have your other plants got to go until the chop mainegrown?
a month give or take a week..
some seem to be much slower in maturation than others..
what i am sad about is losing one of my girls :(
-J

mainegrown
12-30-2009, 11:11 AM
well i finally got enough extra cash together to get my hands on the last part of the veg transplant.. the pots were the last thing i needed. so last night i picked up 10 new 6 inch round pots.
i checked the root ball of a couple of the babes in veg and i fond them to be nearly root bound..
since the soil was dry i took the opportunity to move the larger plants to their new home for the next month..
here are some pics and the last pic is one of the smaller babes but look closely at the leaf in the pic... and count the leaflets.
has anyone ever seen this??:cool::thumbsup:
hope everyone is getting ready for the new year and is having fun...
-J

monny10
12-30-2009, 04:12 PM
From the pics you posted the other day.....Number 4's looking really good for having a month to go! :thumbsup:

how much would you say was on her now if you had to chop and dry her today mainegrown?

I'm trying to gague how much i'll end up with.... I'd say I'd maybe only get about half ounce if I had to chop and dry my girls now..... :( I hope the bitches start to fatten up...

mainegrown
12-30-2009, 11:26 PM
From the pics you posted the other day.....Number 4's looking really good for having a month to go! :thumbsup:

how much would you say was on her now if you had to chop and dry her today mainegrown?

I'm trying to gague how much i'll end up with.... I'd say I'd maybe only get about half ounce if I had to chop and dry my girls now..... :( I hope the bitches start to fatten up...
i got just over an eighth off her/him
i did chop her/him yesterday? and was SOO sad but the him part was kicking out pollen like a mofo and i kinda want a seedless crop. now i am just wishing i had a second flower area so i could have put that lil bastard into it and seen what happened..
lets hear it for having a second batch of plants to introduce to the DIG when i want to.. currently i am just waiting for them to branch enough for me to clone the lot of em.
hope the holiday treats you good monny
-J

mainegrown
12-31-2009, 08:44 AM
i watered all of the girls today with straight H20..
they were looking a lil droopy and really needed the water.
about a min after watering the intense smell of weed rolled through the house.
on that note i am just about to the middle of the third season of weeds
here are some random pics from about a min ago..
some of the plants are showing leaves that are pointing almost straight up, is that ok?
and they are all budding nicely now.
hope ya'll have a nice new years
-J

mainegrown
12-31-2009, 08:52 AM
i transplanted half of the veg girls yesterday/day before and wanted to post some pics showing the vigorous new growth on them.
and the last pic is of the he/she that i chopped but couldnt finish off.. (that will be a LOT of Patron)..

redtails
12-31-2009, 09:59 AM
Lookin good maine. Yeah my oldest girl in flower has at least 1/3 of her leaves with even numbers...usually 6 or 8, thought it was weird but good to know someone else has these mutants! Now I just need one with three sets of leaves/branches!

monny10
12-31-2009, 01:09 PM
i got just over an eighth off her/him
i did chop her/him yesterday? and was SOO sad but the him part was kicking out pollen like a mofo and i kinda want a seedless crop. now i am just wishing i had a second flower area so i could have put that lil bastard into it and seen what happened..
lets hear it for having a second batch of plants to introduce to the DIG when i want to.. currently i am just waiting for them to branch enough for me to clone the lot of em.
hope the holiday treats you good monny
-J

ah well at least you got sumthin man! :) I bet it smokes a thousand times better just wit the fact that you grew it yourself!

I'm willing your plants on maine! those one's in the veg photos are looking real nice.... :thumbsup:

frostedwonder
12-31-2009, 01:33 PM
"some of the plants are showing leaves that are pointing almost straight up, is that ok?"

I have been told its not good to have plants that look like they are praying. I don't know what that means but from time to time mine do that. If someone does actually know I would as well like to know.

Ah sucks about the hermie! But this way you can tell yourself its ok to chop it verses having to wait for the others.

mainegrown
01-02-2010, 05:18 AM
happy new year.. kinda late but better then never..
the 11 girls in the flower cab are doing GREAT.. they have started to really stink.. i was awoken this evening by the overpowering stench of the weed. i will post pics tomorrow right before the light come on so everyone can get a nice view of how they are doing..
now the plants in veg are also doing good. i had to raise the cfl's up a couple inches so that they wouldnt be touching the leaves any more..
the really good news is that they have all started to show sax and so far 4 out of 5 are female.. there are 7 more plants to show but i have high hopes of 100% female rate.. i topped all of the confirmed females to help hasten the clone-ability of my new mothers.. i really want to start a SoG in the DIG SOON!!
what are the odds really?
going to feed at 'dawn' for all plants and will post pics then..

the only question i have is how long do i have until the Moms are ready to bear children?? and how long do the shoots have to be to be cloned?? thanks for stopping in
-J

MonkeyBone
01-02-2010, 05:27 AM
Leaves pointing upwards, mine always have leaves pointing upwards, until I water it...then they point downward....and upward again!

:thumbsup:

mainegrown
01-02-2010, 05:31 AM
Leaves pointing upwards, mine always have leaves pointing upwards, until I water it...then they point downward....and upward again!

:thumbsup:
so its kinda like the muslims praying right?? ;)
up and down and up and down... the cycle continues..
and they were like that right before i watered you are right about that and they went down again and they seem to be on the rise but hot temps have kinda hurt them i think.. it has been in the mid 80's in the cab all day and i cant seem to get the temp down!! had to do with the door i put over the vent fan to keep light out during the 'night time'.. i got kinda fu*ked up last night and forgot to have the roomie remove the door earlier...
-J

MonkeyBone
01-02-2010, 05:33 AM
so its kinda like the muslims praying right?? ;)
up and down and up and down... the cycle continues..
and they were like that right before i watered you are right about that and they went down again and they seem to be on the rise but hot temps have kinda hurt them i think.. it has been in the mid 80's in the cab all day and i cant seem to get the temp down!! had to do with the door i put over the vent fan to keep light out during the 'night time'.. i got kinda fu*ked up last night and forgot to have the roomie remove the door earlier...
-J

mid 80's..youre fine! went up to high 90's in my closet, and everything is fine!

mainegrown
01-02-2010, 11:49 PM
well it seems as though i may have locked my nutes out from a low PH... i also think i may have over watered to try to fix the problem... i added 1 T. of baking soda to the 1 T of Neptunes Harvest per gal of water... i gave all of the girls ~1 L. of water/ nutes/ baking soda... here are some pics.. i think i locked out Sulfur and a couple other micro nutes :(
sorr bout the quality i was taking the pics in the dark right before the lights came on... i will post more soon if more are wanted...
trying to get the lighting right for quality shots..
-J

mainegrown
01-04-2010, 12:04 AM
here are some picture of the buds that are forming..
i think that the PH adjusted water i fed the girls has started to fix the problem and if it has then i am VERY happy.
-J

mainegrown
01-04-2010, 12:07 AM
more

mainegrown
01-04-2010, 12:10 AM
and more..
the last picture is right at 'dawn'... very bright!

MonkeyBone
01-04-2010, 01:34 AM
Try focusing on the buds itself while taking photos, not on the leaves, because buds are all foggy.

I don't bother with ph, straight water from the tap, sitted for 24h. Slight amount of nutes every 2 waterings. Done the job so far!

Scrapped a 60$ ph meter I had with last years grow, dropped it in a bucket of water trying to do 5 things at a time. So screw the ph.

If plant has very big nutelock or anything, a good bath will do the job! Warm water from the tap directly to the plant, let it flow through it, at least 10 liters. A real big flush!

Anyway, they look alright, aside the yellowing of some leaves.

:thumbsup:

Edit: for pics, looks like you were not on macro mode! maybe it's just that

mainegrown
01-04-2010, 01:54 AM
i will try to find macro mode...
thanks for the tip bro

MonkeyBone
01-04-2010, 02:03 AM
i will try to find macro mode...
thanks for the tip bro

It's a "flower" icon, hehe. For taking pics of flower, you know, pistils and all, trichomes too. :D

:stoned::thumbsup:

mainegrown
01-04-2010, 02:10 AM
how is this MB?

mainegrown
01-04-2010, 05:14 AM
the rest of the veg plants have started to show sex and another 4 are female... that makes 9 out of 11... great odds if you ask me.. idk whats up wid that but im not gonna poke a gift in the mouth.. feel me?

mainegrown
01-04-2010, 06:57 AM
about to move most of the flowering girls over to a new and very large container... i think that they have a major problem getting their feet out and about.. i think that my problems are a mix of lack of nutes/way root bound..
gonna put all but the tall 'Leggs" into one big tub... around 50 gal for the last 4 weeks of the flower... i am hoping that they perk up when they have room to grow!!
-MG

monny10
01-04-2010, 06:57 PM
They are looking great man!:thumbsup:

Rootbound & nutes

I think thats been my fuck up on my grow too maine... But you never know until you grow which size of pots to start with eh'

a lesson for us both I think!.... :)

mainegrown
01-04-2010, 10:22 PM
yea we learn as we go.. i am SO going with 5 gal buckets and probably DWC when ever i have a mom and a dialed in set up..
then back to the learning curve again... lol
such is life
-MG
p.s. pics in an hour if anyone cares

mainegrown
01-04-2010, 11:20 PM
here are some bud shots..
i know i have a kinda major deficiency gonna get cal mag or something..
if that sounds wrong holla at me and i WILL listen.. i have done everything in my power with what i got and it aint doing it :(
-MG

mainegrown
01-04-2010, 11:22 PM
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mainegrown
01-04-2010, 11:24 PM
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MonkeyBone
01-05-2010, 03:22 AM
Great macros dude! Flowers are forming nicely!! Does it smells good? :D

:thumbsup:

mainegrown
01-05-2010, 08:47 PM
very very good smelling..
i have air fresheners all through the house..
i have no fear of being busted way out in the sticks but i DO have people over occasionally and the dank smell of GB wafting through the house would be kinda a big tip off.. i also burn incense ALL the time so it kinda has a weird smell here.
i am gonna be making a carbon filter now that i have found a local source for activated carbon and i will post the pics on my log when i get around to building one..
i personally love the smell of my growing crop..
-MG

MonkeyBone
01-06-2010, 04:12 AM
Smell's everything! You wanna know if your milk is good? Smell it. Wanna see if your p*ssy's good? Smell it!

It's all in the nose!

:thumbsup:

bickeybammer
01-06-2010, 05:19 AM
any pics maine?? i usually take almost all the fans off 2 weeks before harvest.. only the ones where i can see the stem of the fan touching the stem of the plants if that makes sense ... the fans that are in the buds i dont ever touch until its trim time..!! :hippy:

monny10
01-06-2010, 08:14 AM
They are lookin fuckin excellent man! :thumbsup:

happy harvest! :jointsmile:

mainegrown
01-06-2010, 11:29 PM
this is the newest addition to the DIG. she is just over a month old and has been topped once. her number is A-1 and im gonna call her 'Steak' as she looks nice and meaty to me.. lol

mainegrown
01-07-2010, 01:30 AM
i have moved the rest of the 'A Series' from veg to flower today..
they are all approximately a foot tall and have all been topped to increase branching for this run..
all have showed pistils and are supposedly female so i am hoping for another few ozs when they are done flowering.. i am hoping that by not just throwing them into flower right after the broke ground i will see both a faster flowering response and a bigger yield..
on an even more positive note i have successfully made 2 clones with no rooting powder and nothing but a peat cube..
the clones are from the big plant at the back of the DIG.. i call he Big Mamma and the tall one that i call Legs..
these are going to be my mother plants until i get some serious genetics from the internet or from some of my peeps around here.. lets hear it for medical cannabis and the increased availability of genetics..
so the first couple pics are of the new mothers in their solo cups with promix.. first 2 are Big Mamma last is Legs.. she seems kinda small right now but i have much faith in her..
then i have a couple of the whole DIG.. it is now packed in there!
later tonight i will put up some more bud shots of all of the gurls that are in the latter half of flowering..
thanks for stopping by and comments are always appreciated.
-MG

mainegrown
01-07-2010, 03:13 AM
here is the bud shots i promised..

mainegrown
01-07-2010, 09:32 AM
A-5 was a hermie too!! :wtf:
i think that i now understand my ability to get 100% fem seeds.. they were hermie seeds so they all ended up being female!! but some didnt want to stay just fem.. :wtf: :wtf: they wanted to fuck up my crop! :wtf: i hate hermies :finger: and will mow very seriously consider getting genetics online :thumbsup: lets hope he didnt hurt things anymore then already were..
-MG

mainegrown
01-08-2010, 05:02 AM
all of the plants are looking good except Big Mamma.. she is still very yellow in the new growth.. i have tried using PH'ed water set at 7.6 and will do so again tomorrow.. the rest of the smaller pots are doing good and dont seem to have the same problems with nutes that the multiple plants per pot.. (learning experience)
i am going to feed and water the smaller pots tonight and may post some pics of the problem plant for ya'll to comment on.. i hope you have some new suggestions for me.. BTW i checked the runoff PH and from 7.6 it went to 6.5!! i think that was the problem and i will continue to fuck with them and try to dial the feeding in better..
~MG

DreadedHermie
01-08-2010, 06:00 AM
Let's see some pics of the problem. 7.6 won't kill anything, but it has messed with nute uptake for me in the past.

What is the EC and source of the flush water?

If it's real 'soft' water, it only needs to come in contact with a very small amount of acidic soil to drop its pH to almost that of the soil.

If you're using RO or distilled, with no buffers, you can pH it to 7.6, run it through a 6.4 pH pot, and have it come out at almost 6.5 (just for example).

OTOH, a stiff nute solution might go in at 7.6 and come through a 6.4 pH pot at 7.5 (again, made up example, please pass the 'pH-Up' to set this up :D) especially if the medium's inert / not-well-buffered.

Hope this is making sense. 'Softer' water's gonna swing hard. One DROP of acid will dump the pH on a bathtub fulla distilled. Sorta. :D

What I'm getting at is I'd rather flush more thoroughly with water closer to the target value, than less thoroughly with water PH'ed to move the pH all at once. I've run in the low 5's (5.2-5.5) in soil without problems, so I wouldn't rush trying to get the pH up. :rastasmoke:

mainegrown
01-08-2010, 06:38 AM
here are some pics of 'Big Mamma'..

mainegrown
01-08-2010, 06:45 AM
here are some pictures of some other gurls..
they dont seem to have the problems that "big mamma" has or they are way less of a problem..
i think with the info you have given me then i may just have a nute deficiency/lock up.. but not from ph then.
all of the gurls seem to have been seeded by the #4 plant that went hermie in the beginning! that is too bad but it is a good learning experience and i will be much more aware of hermies in the future.
from now on i will cut any suspicious plants before they become a problem.. i can always start more but i cant un-seed them after the damage is done..
also i have decided that growing from bagseed is a kinda dangerous venture and should be undertaken with care and vigilance (bag seed can apparently be from hermies!)
now that i have a couple plants that seem to be doing good i will use them as mothers and not plant too many seeds that i dont know the origins of..
thats all for now but answers are always appreciated even if a question isnt asked..
~MG

monny10
01-08-2010, 08:22 AM
Those girls look fuckin 'GREAT' Maine! :thumbsup:

Is 7.4 not considered a High PH?

I've been feeding at 5.8 - 6.5...I am using coco though.....Couldnt tell you what my run off is?

....whats the recommended PH for soil grows?

mainegrown
01-08-2010, 08:48 AM
good to see you m10..
it was getting kinda boring here and i was just reading random shit..

not sure about PH but the reading that i have been able to do has lead me to believe that my soil PH is WAY low and it needs to be brought up..the plants seem to agree with that assessment and are doing better and better.. i think.
6.8 seems to be the agreed upon PH for soil and i think that ~5.8 is what is recommended for coco.. i have been thinking about playing with coco but have decided that both for acquiring and usage purposes MG and Pro-Mix are what i am going to us from now on.. the MG for veg and Pro-Mix for flowering..

thanks for the compliment man your look good too monny
:greenthumb: keep it up
~MG

headshake
01-08-2010, 03:50 PM
i'd have to agree with the pH assesment. 6.3-6.8 is the ideal range for soil. with a high pH micro nutrients tend to be less available and at a lower pH macro nutes tend to be less available.

you said that yellowing is only effecting the new growth?


-shake

mainegrown
01-08-2010, 03:52 PM
i'd have to agree with the pH assesment. 6.3-6.8 is the ideal range for soil. with a high pH micro nutrients tend to be less available and at a lower pH macro nutes tend to be less available.

you said that yellowing is only effecting the new growth?


yes only new growth at the top of the main cola.. nowhere else
that help?


-shake


thats the most i have been able to figure.. i was thinking now that it may be heat stress/light bleaching.. :wtf:

~MG

headshake
01-08-2010, 03:58 PM
could be an iron def. which is often found with zinc and manganese defs as well. all of which could be caused by a high pH.

that's my best first guess. you can try the troubleshooting form for better/more solid opinions.

hope this helps.


-shake

mainegrown
01-08-2010, 04:02 PM
could be an iron def. which is often found with zinc and manganese defs as well. all of which could be caused by a high pH.

that's my best first guess. you can try the troubleshooting form for better/more solid opinions.

i will and it do help.. thanks

hope this helps.


-shake


when the lights turn on and i can take some pics i will fill out your form and post it up..
peace

~MG

MonkeyBone
01-08-2010, 08:49 PM
When new growths are showin signs of yellowin, that means that there are a deficiency or the plant have too much nutes? Too much nutes will lead to leave's tip to go brown and all. But for the rest I realy don't know! Too green leaves = too much nutes. And too pale leaves = not enough nutes. But if it has a deficiency of whatsoever, new growth will be yellowish?

:wtf:

mainegrown
01-09-2010, 12:25 AM
hey j'mapelle 'Jay'
qest que tu va?

~MG
(help me with my french.. if you would post first in english then in french when you hit me up here i would love it.. its been years but my ex was from old quebec city..)

LetsSeeYa
01-09-2010, 12:26 AM
Hey MG, just wanted to let ya know that Attitud has a freebie offer going on and there femmed seeds they are giving:thumbsup: But only till the 11th, starting today.



All these souvenir seeds are completly free when you spend over ÂŁ15...
1 Feminized DNA GENETICS SHARKSBREATH
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:rasta:

purplekush989
01-09-2010, 12:32 AM
its definitely not a nitrogen deficiency, because then the bottom leaves would yellow first.

frostedwonder
01-09-2010, 12:41 AM
Growing something as wonderful as Cannabis will change the soul and heal the world, one bud at a time. Ă?levant quelque chose aussi merveilleuse que le cannabis changera l'âme et guĂ©rira le monde, un bourgeon Ă* la fois.e bud et a time. Really rusty but its easier for me to speak and hear then write, I can barely write in English so I am cool with that. Its hard to make your brain think in written form a foreign language when your dyslexic . I can poorly speak numerous languages (ordering beer)which allows me to make a fool of myself in many lands...I try though. If you watch Inglorious Bastards you will hear like four languages through the whole movie..Not my fav Tarentino movie tho.

mainegrown
01-09-2010, 12:48 AM
What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)

novice.. grown outdoors for years but put up with any losses by planting 50% more than necessary

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)

HPS 600 watt for flower.. 70 watt MH + 3X 26 watt 2700k CLF for veg + 2X 36 watt t-12 tubes for seedlings

.2) Distance from tops?

HPS = 6-12" MH & CLF & T-12 = 2"

.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)

HPS has a batwing in a homemade cab the top of which is sealed from the bottom and has a fan drawing air out of the room through the light..

.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?

..Um i leave the door to the room i grow in open most of the time so i would say yes?

.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?

exhaust and circulation and see above

.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?

already covered..


Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)

its just bad now.. i started with a hot batch of Coast of Maine soil.. it is what i and everyone else around here that can uses for growing outdoors :( didnt seem to love it. now am using promix and have transplanted to promix now

.8) Size of container.

35 gal tub has 6 plants.. the rest are in 2 gal pots

.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?

nope between paper towels straight into soil had close to 80% rate from seed to flowering.. reduced to ~50% after cut out males..


Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?

tap water.. PH = 6.9

11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)

aquarium test kit

12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)

white vinegar / baking soda.. :( no PhUP :(

13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?

watering 1/3 of the time with no nutes.. giving each plant ~1/2 L to 3/4 L

15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)

Nope.. i DO want CalMag but cant afford yet

16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?

honestly im not sure.. i have no way to really tell.. i think fluctuate though but that is just gut feeling

17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?

before i started to try to fix this mess it was about 6.0 - 6.3 after nutes. the only time i checked the runoff i sent 7.6+ PHed water through and got like 6.4 back!!

18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?

no i dont except for seedlings and then with straight water


Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?

indoor

20) What size of closet, room or hut?

two foot by four feet

21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on?

76-ish @ ~30% RH

...With lights off?

65-ish @ ~50% rh

22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?

only ladybugs


Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)

bag seed and IDK

24) From seeds or clones?

seed

25) Is this an autoflower strain?

never




there it is shake..

see what you think and PLEASE help

~MG

mainegrown
01-09-2010, 01:01 AM
Growing something as wonderful as Cannabis will change the soul and heal the world, one bud at a time. Ă?levant quelque chose aussi merveilleuse que le cannabis changera l'âme et guĂ©rira le monde, un bourgeon Ă* la fois.e bud et a time. Really rusty but its easier for me to speak and hear then write, I can barely write in English so I am cool with that. Its hard to make your brain think in written form a foreign language when your dyslexic . I can poorly speak numerous languages (ordering beer)which allows me to make a fool of myself in many lands...I try though. If you watch Inglorious Bastards you will hear like four languages through the whole movie..Not my fav Tarentino movie tho.


i think i do better.. je pense que j'ameliore.. when it is written AND spoken
quand on lui ecrit et parle..
just my two cents though.. juste me deux cents
~MG

mainegrown
01-09-2010, 01:06 AM
its definitely not a nitrogen deficiency, because then the bottom leaves would yellow first.



merci mon ami..
thanks my friend

~MG

MonkeyBone
01-09-2010, 03:24 AM
Growing something as wonderful as Cannabis will change the soul and heal the world, one bud at a time. Ă?levant quelque chose aussi merveilleuse que le cannabis changera l'âme et guĂ©rira le monde, un bourgeon Ă* la fois.e bud et a time. Really rusty but its easier for me to speak and hear then write, I can barely write in English so I am cool with that. Its hard to make your brain think in written form a foreign language when your dyslexic . I can poorly speak numerous languages (ordering beer)which allows me to make a fool of myself in many lands...I try though. If you watch Inglorious Bastards you will hear like four languages through the whole movie..Not my fav Tarentino movie tho.

Hey frostedwonder, on va pouvoir se parler dans notre langue! Sauf que toé tu viens du vieux pays!! hehe!

mainegrown, le francais, c'est pas difficile!

:thumbsup:

mainegrown
01-09-2010, 03:36 AM
je sachez que cest facile..
j'ai ete eleve pres de la frontiere du canada mais c'a ete un long temps qui j'ai essaye d'empolyer le francais.
je dois utiliser un tradacteur mais avec parctique je pas

i know that it isnt hard
i was raised on the border of canada but it has been a long time since i used french
i have to use a translator but with practice i wont..

~MG

MonkeyBone
01-09-2010, 04:06 AM
je sachez que cest facile..
j'ai ete eleve pres de la frontiere du canada mais c'a ete un long temps qui j'ai essaye d'empolyer le francais.
je dois utiliser un tradacteur mais avec parctique je pas

i know that it isnt hard
i was raised on the border of canada but it has been a long time since i used french
i have to use a translator but with practice i wont..

~MG


Je sait que c'est facile..
J'ai été élevé pres de la frontiere canadienne mais ca fait longtemps que je n'utilise plus le francais.
Je doit utiliser un traducteur mais avec de la pratique je n'aurai plus besoin

Enough with french lesson for today, time to grow weed!
Assez pour les lecons de francais aujourd'hui, c'est le temps de faire pousser du weed!

:thumbsup:

mainegrown
01-09-2010, 04:09 AM
Assez pour les lecons de francais aujourd'hui, c'est le temps de faire pousser du weed!

:thumbsup:


canvenu..
agreed
~le Maine Developpe
~Maine Grown

Weezard
01-09-2010, 09:28 AM
there it is shake..

see what you think and PLEASE help

~MG

Lemme jump in her and say, 86 the vinegar and the Baking soda.
Vinegar will encourage slime molds and Sodium BiCarb. is way too much sodium.
You can use Potassium Bicarbonate as PH up and Lemon Juice as PH down safely without spending much.
But, Phosphoric acid is the best PH down that I've found.
Now lemme go back and see what da problem is.

Aloha,
Weeze

headshake
01-09-2010, 04:12 PM
so you are using tap water MG? is the big plant in it's own container or in the tub? also, i'm sure i missed it somewhere, but what nutes are you using?

and do what weeze says about the vinegar/baking soda.

trying to help (but not with the french!),
-shake

mainegrown
01-10-2010, 02:12 AM
yes i am using tap water..
i cant afford a RO getup..
and the big plant os in the tub with the rest of em..
i didnt plan it that way i just planted a bunch of seeds in each pot figuring that i would gat more males and would have to chop some..
learning experience that was

ok on the baking soda/vinegar i will 86 em..

not a problem with the french, j'ai mes amis canadiens pour cela (I have my canadian friends for that)

merci mon amis (thanks my friends)
espoir d'avoir de vos nouvelles plus tard ce soir (hope to hear from you later tonight)

~le Maine développé (MaineGrown)

mainegrown
01-10-2010, 04:37 AM
here is a lil photo shoot of the three new plants

two were successfully topped.
the other seems to be throwing shoots like it was topped but only has one main growing tip.. :cool: but odd too..

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

mainegrown
01-10-2010, 05:13 AM
and here are some bud shots for everyone to have a lil look-see.. :clap: :cool:

the one that is under HPS is Big Mamma :) and the one with the sharpie cap is Leggs.. ;)

please say what you like about em.. :question: a am made of some stern shit.. :D :s4: j.k..

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

mainegrown
01-10-2010, 05:22 AM
and some more..

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

mainegrown
01-10-2010, 05:25 AM
and a few shots of my clones of
1) Big Mamma and
2) Leggs (i dont know if this clone will make it)

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

headshake
01-10-2010, 08:34 PM
the buds all look nice MG. they all look nice and dense.

did you have a hermie though? the first pic looks to show a calyx with a seed in it.

is that a yes or no on the nutes?


-shake

mainegrown
01-11-2010, 01:32 AM
yes on the hermie.. i have TONS of seeds bro.. :(

and i am using Neptune's Harvest Fish Fertilizer

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

mainegrown
01-11-2010, 03:59 AM
i just watered all of the seedlings and the clones..
and the Big Mamma clone has an amazing root zone.. but has showed almost NO veg growth! can anyone tell me whats up with that? she is in a 20 oz solo cup with promix..
i just gave her some nute water @ 1 t. MG AP / gal h2o..
i am hoping that the roots were just looking for nutes and couldnt find any..




~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

MonkeyBone
01-11-2010, 05:30 AM
So, are those yellowing leaves starting to get healthy again?
Alors, est-ce que les feuilles qui jaunissent recommencent a etre en santé?

How many plants you got in veg and how many in flower?
Combien as-tu de plants en veg et combien en floraison?

How much time left before harvesting your oldest plants?
Combien de temps avant de couper les plus vieux plant?

Great job so far!
Bon travail jusqu'a date!

:thumbsup:

MonkeyBone, l'Os de Singe? Sound weird, ca sonne bizarre :stoned:

headshake
01-12-2010, 01:15 AM
i just watered all of the seedlings and the clones..
and the Big Mamma clone has an amazing root zone.. but has showed almost NO veg growth! can anyone tell me whats up with that? she is in a 20 oz solo cup with promix..
i just gave her some nute water @ 1 t. MG AP / gal h2o..
i am hoping that the roots were just looking for nutes and couldnt find any..




~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé


the clone was taken from a flowering plant. it takes the plant time to switch from flowering back to veg. try to remove as many of the flowers as you can and see if that won't help to kick start that lil' girl.


-shake

mainegrown
01-12-2010, 08:00 PM
here is the new light for finishing the plants in the tub..
i have decided that i have too much wasted plants going that
would be better in the HPS and the plants in the tub have been kinda
abused and are kinda fucked... BUT
i have too much time into them to just kill em now so i am going to let em
flower in the closet under CFL.. and a ton of CFL too.. i have another 6 bulbs that
are going above and to the sides of the tub..
any suggestions or comments welcome..
also i got 6x 5 gal buckets
8x #3 pots and better Neptunes Harvest..
this time i got Seeweed/Fish.. supposed to be for flowering :greenthumb:
also bought shultz bloom booster.. i am gonna run a plant on that and see what happens..
see if this organic thing can be beat with cheap nutes..

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

MonkeyBone
01-12-2010, 11:28 PM
try putting lights all around!!

:thumbsup:

BadLuck
01-13-2010, 07:23 PM
Good looking out on the bloom boost, just started out using that one 6 weeks ago, its good stuff! I ended up going a little stronger than the mix said on the bottle...but only after incrementally increasing the nutes for a few weeks.

Lookin good, keep it up.

mainegrown
01-14-2010, 06:24 AM
worth an update i guess..
kinda full in there, no?

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

mainegrown
01-14-2010, 02:27 PM
only a couple pics..
first is clone at day ~1 day old
second is clone a week ago ~2 weeks old
third is clone today ~3 weeks old :(

my poor little clone seems so small..
but she is still kicking.. and now seems to be growing :thumbsup:
we shall see but i have plans along the lines of top after 4 nodes
let it grow and then top again..
that sound good for a mother?

comments appreciated
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

headshake
01-14-2010, 04:02 PM
everything is looking good MG! it is mighty full in that closet of yours. top the piss out of the one you want to keep as a mom (after a test top of course, some strains don't take well to it). then clone her like mad. once she gets big enough and dense enough you will have to take clones on a regular basis whether you need them or not.


-shake

mainegrown
01-14-2010, 04:04 PM
i will continue to find room for more.. and i have a bit of time b4 i can top the mother.. she is that lil clone.. but i got time i think.

i AM gonna be doing a nice lil round of cloning very soon and then i will try the mother.. call this a test run.
i hope to have some fun :)

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

headshake
01-14-2010, 04:11 PM
that's what it's all about!

-shake

mainegrown
01-14-2010, 04:14 PM
you think i could keep a bunch of plants under a foot including soil?? top and lst and the whole nine yards?
i wanna get rid of some spare seedlings but cant just kill em.. :wtf: i know but still you think its possible?

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

headshake
01-14-2010, 04:38 PM
not from seedlings. you need to wait unitl they are sexually mature before flowering. what you can do is rape the seedlings for clones and flower those off the bat (once they are done rooting). then toss the seedling mom.

the other thing you might want to think about is ScROG. that would definitely work.


-shake

Charbud
01-14-2010, 10:54 PM
All is lookin good maine !

peace

MonkeyBone
01-15-2010, 03:15 AM
everything is looking good MG! it is mighty full in that closet of yours. top the piss out of the one you want to keep as a mom (after a test top of course, some strains don't take well to it). then clone her like mad. once she gets big enough and dense enough you will have to take clones on a regular basis whether you need them or not.
-shake

LOL

:thumbsup:

mainegrown
01-15-2010, 04:57 AM
...wether you need then or not...
lol ya i already got 3 plants chilling NEXT to the lights.. they are starting to stretch like crazy but i jus dont got the place for em! if it turns out that i have a male in the DIG i will replace it with one of them.. they are topped just like the rest of them..
off to get coffee will have pics very soon


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

mainegrown
01-15-2010, 05:05 AM
well here are a few pictures to show how it is going..
the first is of the DIG in its entirety.. the taller plants have 2 weeks to go!! whoot!
the second is a growing tip from a plant 10 days into flower.. she was throwing pistils BEFORE she went into flower then STOPPED! and is now throwing em fast and heavy..
the third pic is of one of the buds..
same with the fourth and fifth pictures too.. bud shots for yall


~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

mainegrown
01-15-2010, 05:16 AM
he de singe comment allez vous fasiant? vos fille semblent le gentil homme. peut-etre la fois prochaine vous pouvez courir HID avec nous de grands garcons. LOL badiant juste
(hey monkey bone how are you doing? your girl is looking nice man. maybe next time you can run a HID with us big boys.. LOL j/k)
~le Maine Développé

mainegrown
01-15-2010, 09:33 AM
this grow has been fun and VERY informative..
i hope that everyone that has been following this thread will continue to do so in its newest form.. DIG Round III Big Mamma's House..
i will be showing the progress to this newest attempt to disaster throughout the next couple weeks alongside the normal DIG grow.. after this current handful of ladies have moved on to the mason jars they are destined for i will be closing this thread..
on a happier note i will be harvesting in 2 weeks and will post all of the info about yield and taste here..
happy harvest to everyone else who is near to that fun time.. :thumbsup:

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

headshake
01-15-2010, 03:08 PM
i know you guys are laughing at my "need them or not" line, but it's the truth. you still need to take clones from your moms on a regular basis to keep them producing more shoots.....even if you have to scrap them. true story.


-shake

mainegrown
01-15-2010, 05:08 PM
positive problem maybe?

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

mainegrown
01-17-2010, 08:20 PM
some pics

MonkeyBone
01-17-2010, 09:23 PM
he de singe comment allez vous fasiant? vos fille semblent le gentil homme. peut-etre la fois prochaine vous pouvez courir HID avec nous de grands garcons. LOL badiant juste
(hey monkey bone how are you doing? your girl is looking nice man. maybe next time you can run a HID with us big boys.. LOL j/k)
~le Maine Développé


LOL

Hey MonkeyBone, comment ca va? Ta fille parait bien! Peut-etre la prochaine fois tu va rouler avec des HID comme nous!

Stop using Babelfish, not worth crap at traducting whole phrases.
Arete d'utiliser babelfish, ca vaut pas dla marde pour traduire des phrases entieres.

:thumbsup:

mainegrown
01-18-2010, 09:49 AM
just a little lil slide show before the lights turn off for the day..
buds are STICKY! i touch em then the next thing that i touch sticks to ME. lol
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=235671&d=1263808086
~MG

Weezard
01-18-2010, 07:44 PM
Congratulations, Pard!
You're becoming a 'zard.
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Come harvest time you'll walk up walls and 'cross the ceiling.
Now ya know how da 'zards be feelin'
Yer hands turn green and ya don' wear clothes
Assuming, you also, trim buds with your toes.:D


Nice budporn!
Aloha,
Wee 'zard

t3hn00b137
01-18-2010, 11:01 PM
after that last pic, maine, I had to go change my pants.:computerlove1: I could only dream that my girls will look like that! That IS amazing budporn.
Anyway, what I meant to say was "Looking good mate."


TehNooblet:pimp:

mainegrown
01-19-2010, 08:57 AM
thanks for the :thumbsup: i preciate it peeps..
they are looking good.. temps under 80F and all the plants are growing nice like..
the new plants are throwing pistils like a mofo and i will shoot some pics as soon as the lights are off. they throw the camera for a loop.. ya feel me?

mainegrown
01-19-2010, 10:09 AM
here are some pics of the gurls..
the first plant is big mamma flowering.. she is a beast. :detective1:
i am glad i have her vegging too.. (check Round III)
assorted other plants that are under a few cfls.. something like 200w true.. should be enough..
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=235796&d=1263895666
~MG

mainegrown
01-20-2010, 02:10 PM
just a lil update
i have had to remove another one from this crop :( she was taking up valuable space and just had ta go :(
so i cut her off at the knees so to speak and made room for the better gurls to finish flowering..
here are a few pics of the cut buds.. i know the thc will be low to no but thats ok.. the thought counts right ;)
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=235866&d=1263996537
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

t3hn00b137
01-20-2010, 10:45 PM
dude, you are crazy. I would have so bought a few more cfls and put that plant somewhere else. lol

mainegrown
01-21-2010, 08:50 PM
well nooblet.. i DONT have the room.. this growing business has kinda taken over the whole house.. especially my bedroom.. its a jungle in there..

here are a few pics of my recent building project.. the new DIG.. and more discrete too i hope!
old dimensions 4 feet wide 2 feet deep and 6 feet tall
new.. 3 ft wide 2 ft deep and 4.5 ft tall..
have a new 250w bulb on the way for the new smaller space.. down from 600w :( i can JUST keep the temps in check right now.. should be a breeze wit the smaller lamp :)
~MG

MonkeyBone
01-22-2010, 01:11 AM
Nice little set-up there main!

Should make some hash with the girl you cutdown!

:thumbsup:

mainegrown
01-22-2010, 03:01 PM
i cut 2 more plants in the CFL closet.. 115g wet.. not too bad for a week early..
and i am making butter tonight btw..

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

headshake
01-22-2010, 03:07 PM
yo, hit me up via IM or something for that code.

-shake

mainegrown
01-23-2010, 01:51 PM
cut a couple more.. am looking at 3-4 oz dry.. i think.
nuked a bit over a floor vent in a closet.. am baked afta a bowl..

t3hn00b137
01-24-2010, 01:59 AM
It sounds great man! How many plants did you harvest off of?

mainegrown
01-24-2010, 12:18 PM
4.. with 4 more to go.. looking at an est. 6 oz. dry after all is said and done.. :)
btw the stems break when you try to bend em.. total dry weight.. 103.5 g from 4 plants.. other 4 are still with roots in the ground..
i made a batch of stinky's butter.. am making a batch of brownies as we speak.. 4 T. cannabutter.. made with an oz of weed / stick of butter.. ended up with ~7 T. of butter.. this batch will be the first/ only batch made so strong.. but they gotta last me 4 a bit..
Peace im outty.. (as in spaced out! lol)

headshake
01-24-2010, 03:10 PM
i've got to make some butter pretty soon myself. hope the brownies treat you real nice!

-shake

mainegrown
01-24-2010, 04:31 PM
dont eat 2 brownies made with this butter..

MonkeyBone
01-24-2010, 08:05 PM
4.. with 4 more to go.. looking at an est. 6 oz. dry after all is said and done.. :)
btw the stems break when you try to bend em.. total dry weight.. 103.5 g from 4 plants.. other 4 are still with roots in the ground..
i made a batch of stinky's butter.. am making a batch of brownies as we speak.. 4 T. cannabutter.. made with an oz of weed / stick of butter.. ended up with ~7 T. of butter.. this batch will be the first/ only batch made so strong.. but they gotta last me 4 a bit..
Peace im outty.. (as in spaced out! lol)

I'll try to beat that with ONE monster plant!!! This is my goal!!! Had around 100g with 2 plants last year, want to make the same with 1!!! Wish me luck!!


Damn I want brownies, have you tried the "Bear Paws & Nutella Sandwich"?

Freakin' awesome too!!!!

mainegrown
01-24-2010, 09:40 PM
you wanna beat 200+ g with one plant? damn son that is kinda ambitious.. but i believe in you!!

and naw i havent made the other goodies yet :( but i will!! :thumbsup:

and yes MAKE the brownies! they are great.. make walnut brownies. the slight hint of pot is disguised as walnut.. lol
way better like that.

hope all have a nice harvest :greenthumb:
look back in a month and a half for next harvest..

MonkeyBone
01-25-2010, 04:09 AM
you wanna beat 200+ g with one plant? damn son that is kinda ambitious.. but i believe in you!!

and naw i havent made the other goodies yet :( but i will!! :thumbsup:

and yes MAKE the brownies! they are great.. make walnut brownies. the slight hint of pot is disguised as walnut.. lol
way better like that.

hope all have a nice harvest :greenthumb:
look back in a month and a half for next harvest..

Not 200g!!

100!!!!

4oz = ~100gs thats my goal! With my only plant!

Sandwiches are a BLAST!

:thumbsup:

mainegrown
01-25-2010, 01:27 PM
idk i got some friends that pull 8+ oz off each cola bud.. but that is outdoors on the island.. we dont have to worry bout law out there :)
they get over a pound / plant.. :) i love harvest season in maine!

uncleweed
01-25-2010, 04:19 PM
very nice man... congrats.

mainegrown
01-25-2010, 07:26 PM
thanks uncle..
i am sorry bout the lack of pics and such lately..
i have been in a haze and i seem to have lost my batteries for the camera :(
time to dry out so to speak i think..:(
i WILL have some nice crystal covered pics for yall later :)
:D MG

t3hn00b137
01-25-2010, 09:54 PM
That sounds amazing. lol I have made banana bread, peanut butter cookies, and brownies. The peanut butter cookies hide the pot taste the best so far...

mainegrown
01-26-2010, 08:43 PM
hey i got a question for anyone that knows.. will 110 cfm cool a 250w HPS??

it is what i want to run for the vent in the new DIG.. its way quiet.. feel me?

caregiver420
01-26-2010, 09:04 PM
I would think that a 110CFM fan should be more than enough for your needs, Mainegrown.

Great grow. I'll be lurking. :rastasmoke:

mainegrown
01-26-2010, 10:54 PM
my thought is to have the 110 cfm fan extract the air in the cab out by the bulb.. cooling the light and refreshing the air in the cab.. sound like its sound?

i am hoping the heat output of the 250 HPS is gonna be way lower than the 600 i have now :thumbsup:
unfortunately the camera's batteries are still on the run.. i am in fast pursuit but can seem to make any headway :(
gonna bite the bullet and buy some new rechargeable batteries soon

uncleweed
01-27-2010, 12:15 AM
yea your fan should be good. how big is the new DIG?

caregiver420
01-27-2010, 12:17 AM
i am hoping the heat output of the 250 HPS is gonna be way lower than the 600 i have now :thumbsup:

Sheesh, my 600 watt pumps way more heat than my 400 watt does. I've never worked with a 250 but I'm sure it will be minimal in comparison. I haven't checked the dimensions of the cab you're planning to put these items in, but do the math on cubic feet and I think you'll find that 110 per minute might be overkill. You may find yourself getting a fan speed controller or putting the thing on a periodic timer.

MonkeyBone
01-27-2010, 01:19 AM
idk i got some friends that pull 8+ oz off each cola bud.. but that is outdoors on the island.. we dont have to worry bout law out there :)
they get over a pound / plant.. :) i love harvest season in maine!

Outside grows are amazing, me and 2 of my friends couple years ago we had a 1 month old plant that we transplanted outside in May. We harvested in october, I don't know what was the weight, but it was a HUGE top cola. 5-6" in diameter and like 1½ foot long. Plant was 7 feet tall!

But we harvested too late, and it was not very potent.

:thumbsup:

mainegrown
01-27-2010, 03:10 AM
i am all about the overkill..i had a 2'x4' footprint.. now i have a 2'x3' footprint.. i had like ~9000 lumens /sq ft.. not im gonna have ~5000 lumens /sq ft.. i am sure i will feel that loss but the slackening on the electric and the less heat output will be nice..
thanks for the input caregiver.. always like to hear positive things :thumbsup:
thanks for the reply MB.. i think that this year i am gonna buy a greenhouse.. makes life real simple.. i think
hope everyone has a nice nite

monny10
01-27-2010, 09:40 AM
Mainegrown are you a policeman? You make an awful lot of posts man, whats been happening? I've not heard from you in a while though! :)

Hows the harvest coming along?:stoned:

I've just read about your weights man!...thats Good!

:stoned:

mainegrown
01-28-2010, 04:30 PM
not a cop but how would you know if i was telling the truth..ha ha thats y i never ask.. no way to tell man.. just dont be stupid..
last plant is still standing and is making me hit my head off the wall wishing i had let the rest of the plants go till now-ish :(
next time right?

Weezard
01-28-2010, 07:12 PM
not a cop but how would you know if i was telling the truth..ha ha thats y i never ask.. no way to tell man.. just dont be stupid..
last plant is still standing and is making me hit my head off the wall wishing i had let the rest of the plants go till now-ish :(
next time right?

To me, you did da harvest just right.
Some young and uppity, some middle-aged mellow, and some long-balls, greybeard, thunderthump.:thumbsup:
The staggered harvest will give a nice range of "side effects".

And here's some mo' betta advice.:cool:

Now that you grok the harvest patience thing.:cool:
The difference between, "dry enough to smolder", and "cured for a month" is even more impressive.:stoned::stoned::stoned:

Trust me on dis. :jointsmile:
Stash some in a jar and fuggedaboudit for a month or two.
Then go find a soft spot on da wall, ya?:D

Aloha nui
Wee, cured for decades, 'zard

headshake
01-28-2010, 08:07 PM
hey MG, what's good bro? so you are moving to the 250W HPS huh? what are you gonna do with the old 600W?

hope all is well and i wish you luck in the next D.I.G.!


-shake

mainegrown
01-28-2010, 11:14 PM
hey shake..
i am gonna be making a grow tent after i get a job to support the cost of running that light.. and i wanna make use of the whole footprint.. maybe 5x5?? and 4ft tubes for side lighting? i wanna make a real getup :)

and 'ward..
yes i know.. i have the girls all in jars.. or drying now.. was thinking about giving one of em grape coolade but decided against it ;) got a more betta idea! leave it alone :)
and i am leaving most of it to cure as long as it can until i smoke it i guess :)
i may leave some in a jar for a week or two after i run out.. or if i get the new crob b4 it all goes up in smoke ;) ha ha im all good
have a good 'un

t3hn00b137
02-03-2010, 02:41 AM
I have never heard of giving the curing buds kool-aid. Explain, please?

mainegrown
02-03-2010, 06:41 PM
not the curing buds..when you flush.. gives 'em sugar and a purps tint ya see?

Shovelhandle
02-03-2010, 10:09 PM
that flush with Koolade or whatever is bunk, man

MonkeyBone
02-04-2010, 12:30 AM
you can add Vanilla or chocolate extract with flushing water. for taste.

:thumbsup:

headshake
02-04-2010, 06:35 PM
not the curing buds..when you flush.. gives 'em sugar and a purps tint ya see?

are you using the regular koolaid packets or the plastic "ready mix" container koolaid? if you are using the packets there is no sugar in there.

-shake

t3hn00b137
02-19-2010, 11:01 PM
By putting chocolate or vanilla in with the watering it really changes the flavor? Do you really taste that particular flavor or does the smoke just seem heavier/lighter?