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killerweed420
12-07-2009, 09:49 PM
If anyone can make it there is a court case in Shelton on Dec.14th
* Mon Dec 14 - 11am
* Mason v. John Reed/Karen Mower
* 419 N 4th St., Shelton, WA 98584
They could use some moral support. I'll be there.
hachiman6677
12-07-2009, 11:09 PM
Always refreshing seeing people wanting to help out their fellow man even if its only moral support! I wish to God I could haul my ass on up there! They should have a NORML bus that will come around to pick people up and cart em to court cases etc. I bet theyd have to start lines outside the court houses because of all the people who would show!:thumbsup:
killerweed420
12-08-2009, 01:33 AM
The CDC will have a passenger van pickup in Seattle the morning of the trial.
Calendar | Cannabis Defense Coalition (http://cdc.coop/calendar)
jamessr
12-09-2009, 03:26 AM
Thank you killerweed420,:thumbsup:
For advertising CDC. I am on the calendar list Nov.30, these folks are great people. The force of the people following this organization are a reckoning to be dealt with in this state.
I really like the only member lawyer of this group, he is way, way cool....:thumbsup:
killerweed420
12-09-2009, 09:48 PM
Talking about Doug? Yeah he's a nice guy and pretty good in a court room.
The prosecutor in this case is a douchebag named Dorcy. He's actually a defense attorney but he's been hired to prosecute a lot of case for the county. Nice ethics hey?
jamessr
12-11-2009, 01:33 AM
No not huggy douggy. I can't stand that fool, he has left a really bad taste in my mouth as well as others I personally know. All talk and then sell's his clients down the river. I have known him since 2004. He is not a member of cdc.(he just thinks he is) Call and ask pam, she will be honest with you. Tell her james sr sent ya.
There is only 1 actual member of cdc that is a lawyer. His name is Aaron
[email protected] . He is the attorney that just got the guy from cali. his 11 pounds back. The cost, $200 for filing fees.
He blows douggy away by far. May I suggest researching douggy deeper than you have. He does have a past history.
killerweed420
12-11-2009, 07:10 PM
Doug did pretty well in the Kitsap case a couple months ago.
killerweed420
12-13-2009, 07:45 PM
Bump
jamessr
12-14-2009, 01:35 AM
Hello killer420,
Do you happen to know the case name on the one in kitsap co. that your referring too?
I have never known him to win any "REAL" cases, just simple one's that should never have been charged in the first place, not to say any should be charged,(cause IMHO no MMJ patient should ever be charged) but one's someone could do pro-se because they are that easy.
Thanks,
Jamessr
P.S. I do track duggy and his work, or lack thereof.
killerweed420
12-14-2009, 11:33 PM
I believe the couples last name was olson. It was done this spring.
Went to the court hearing in Shelton this morning. Just more feet dragging by the prosecution. Another pretrial hearing on Jan.4 at 11:00. I'll be there again. It appears the prosecution may drop all charges, the judge is getting tired of the prosecution dragging there feet. Its a clear cut case of an MMJ patient growing legally. He had 6 over the 15 plant guide line. There is no limit in Washington as to how many plants you can grow but a lot of jurisdictions are using 15 as a guideline.
jamessr
12-15-2009, 03:50 AM
I believe the couples last name was olson. It was done this spring.
Went to the court hearing in Shelton this morning. Just more feet dragging by the prosecution. Another pretrial hearing on Jan.4 at 11:00. I'll be there again. It appears the prosecution may drop all charges, the judge is getting tired of the prosecution dragging there feet. Its a clear cut case of an MMJ patient growing legally. He had 6 over the 15 plant guide line. There is no limit in Washington as to how many plants you can grow but a lot of jurisdictions are using 15 as a guideline.
I know for sure it was not olsen, I followed that case every step of the way, it may have been his wife who did a plea bargain of "GUILTY".
As far as the plant limit thing, 15 is a base line, meaning the minimum, in the WAC code(I believe the last paragraph) one will find that a Dr. may suggest more, but, it is upon the burden of the patient to prove the medical necessity by a preponderance of the evidence (this generally means your doctor just needs to show up and testify or if a reasonable LEO or prosecutor sees the patients recommendation with it spelled out.)
I think these LEO, prosecutors & judges need to be hauled into federal court on HOBBS ACT violations. :thumbsup: That would put a stop to shit like the case your watching in Shelton. Every case in wa. so far that I have followed is clear cut medical PERIOD. The participants involved in the judicial processes are just criminals themselves. Just like the kopstoppers story you posted. :thumbsup:
killerweed420
12-15-2009, 11:05 PM
Here in Mason and kitsap county we've had quite a history of corrupt cops and prosecutors.. Its certainly better than it used to be in the 60's and 70's but its still here. Both District attorneys are real assholes. They would just as soon have the cops rip all your shit out, confiscate it and let you argue about it with the judge. And that takes years.
jamessr
12-16-2009, 04:52 AM
There are way's to fix people like that, it's called the rules of ethics and complaints to the bar association by either another lawyer, or many people from the public filing multiple bar complaints.
If your interested in how to do this, I would be willing to post it for you.:thumbsup:
As for the corrupt cops, that's easy. File the citizens criminal complaint form I posted in the legal section. When the public or many people file these, you get the corrupt cops off the force. It's just like a class action in legal effect, only it's a criminal action with no immunity availability to the officer, because he/she is a citizen under our statutes regardless of the STATUS of a LEO.
Some will say I am out my mind, but, been there done that more than once. One just has to be careful about a sneaky prosecutor attempting to take over the case from ya and putting their case # on your complaint, (the court clerk is required to have separate case # file per the court rule). Because they think they are the only one's under our constitution who has the RIGHT to bring forth criminal charges. They claim it's a separation of powers violation, which is horse pucky.
RCW Chapter 42 has many requirements for our employees to be honest in their dealings with the public, because the derive their powers from WE THE PEOPLE. It's written in the statute as PUBLIC POLICY by the legislature.(read the chapter)
Hope this info. helps understand we are not without legal weapons to fix this crap ourselves.:thumbsup:
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