O.K. to flower with BOTH HPS & MH?

[Razer]

I started with just a 1000 MH for both phases, but when I could afford it, I replaced it with (2) 600 HPS for flower and a 400 MH for vegging. Now I am wondering if I shouldn't just go ahead and add the 1000 MH back in the flowering room.

Here's the crux of the matter. Is it ok to flower with both MH and HPS at the same time?

I don't really need it for vegging. It made big buds when it was the only light I had. Check out these beginnings from the MH only.

[Razer]

i was reading other threads and SensiSkunk says that using both the warm and cool spectrums of both lights combinded more closely reproduces the suns light. Basically said it was better to use both. Do others concur or have info references? :cool:

[bonbon]

if you can deal with the extra heat and a slightly higher electric bill,i would use them,i don't know if you saw them yet but they are manufacturing combo unit's now too,they'll probably be the newest rage,nice shot's of you're havest....bonbon http://www.altgarden.com/site/lightsystems/superspectrum/superspec.html

[Razer]

bonbon... Excellent idea on the dual system, I hope everyone who hasn't seen this idea will click the link. I can definitely see it catching on quick.

Just got a couple of new strains, Train Wreck (which looks great, tastes great, and will numb your brain) and Purple Mist (which I have not tried). They are vegging now, but barring any dire warnings from others I will be planning to go ahead and add the 1000 MH to the (2) 600 HPS in a couple of weeks. I will be posting pictures of the results along the way. Hoping for big results.

Those other pics are from my first two goes. Not a bad start, but always trying to improve. I have upgraded with over $2500 in improvements, including air cooled hoods, so the extra heat should not be a prob. Entire room replenished in just over a minute with exhuast fan.

Hope you will share more insights down the road! :cool:

[Razer]

I am anxious to here from more of you fellow Haze Heads with experience or a good refence book or website. Please help with a quick comment, I am checking back several times a day and I will answer. :cool:

[sensiskunk]

you definitely should add the 2*600 hps along with the 1000 halide for ur flowering room, i previously had 2*1000 hps and the monthly bill was runnin bout 50-60 dollars US, but i also had hundreds of plants. If you have the funds to keep up with the elec bill, you should combine, it will increase the amount of trichomes because of combining the two spectrums and it will help bring out the alternate colors of the bud! Ive heard that the combination ballast of the hps and mh was more likely to short out on you because of the distribution of the power. just get two seperate ballasts, to be safe! GOod luck man!

[Razer]

sensiskunk.... thanks for the post. I'm encouraged to hear more positive feedback about combining the HPS and MH. I actually started with the MH and then switched to the 2 HPS lights, but when considering getting a 3rd and 4th HPS I decided to find out about putting the MH back to work with the others instead. Sounds like a good idea so far based on what I found in your other post to be pretty sound advice. Look for Pics down the road from me and some first hand info on the change.

Always ready to receive help. Keep the insights coming. :cool:

[Razer]

Does anyone have any firsthand (or even secondhand for that matter) experience or information about using both the MH & HPS lights in the flowering room to get a fuller spectrum?

Am I out in the frontier here? Helllllloooooooo.... :cool:

[wildy]

1 class tune i think by specaial d home alone

[KanMan]

Does anyone have any firsthand (or even secondhand for that matter) experience or information about using both the MH & HPS lights in the flowering room to get a fuller spectrum?

Am I out in the frontier here? Helllllloooooooo.... :cool:

http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?t=430175

Good Growing!

[Razer]

Thanks a big bud for the link KanMan. It seems that the general consensus is to combine the two HIDs in the budding room. Mine will be under seperate hoods and moving and I will rotate the plants for the varried exposure. Look for pics of a big Train Wreck soon.... :cool:

[sensiskunk]

there are reflectors that combine the two lights without the ajoining ballast, so u dont have to have the two seperate reflectors. Also, u should look into a track, i have one my self and it works soooo goood! itll better distribute the light, but even better with the two spectrum reflector! so u wont have to worry about insufficient light on the outer rims of your plants, or about the spectrum distribution. itll be a perfect combination for ur grow! Ive also heard that trainwreck, i think, had some buds thatll put u on ur ass!

[Gardenking]

Hey Razer! You can buy one 1000 watt mh warm deluxe bulb that will do the same thing as two bulb of each man. I got a 1000 watt sumaster warm deluxe which has boyh spectrums in the one bulb. It has 50% red and 50% blue. Save some money man and go with one hood and one light; i do and my 1000 watt warm mh does great for me.

[sensiskunk]

Hey Razer! You can buy one 1000 watt mh warm deluxe bulb that will do the same thing as two bulb of each man. I got a 1000 watt sumaster warm deluxe which has boyh spectrums in the one bulb. It has 50% red and 50% blue. Save some money man and go with one hood and one light; i do and my 1000 watt warm mh does great for me.
an eye hortilux bulb for the hps is much better than the dual mh bulb, both ell work good, but id prefer the eye hortilux, just because of the difference it made for my buds. soo much purple and pink, the regualar hps bulb looked like it was doing great, but then i got a eye hortilux and within a week i could already see color differentials, and way more abundance of trichomes. the eye hortilux just has more of the red spectrum bout 60%red/40%blue, but u want more red for the budding stage, so it works perfect!

[Razer]

Thanks for weighing in Gardenking, and for the extra info sensiskunk.

This MH was given to me by a friend who can't really grow for herself anymore. I in return kick her smoke regularly. I am adding light because, of course, I want more buds. I switched to the HPS lights because for 20% difference in watts I was getting 185K lumens. Now I am going to add the MH back in the mix and have around 300K. I have read that you can get about .5 grams per watt, so more watts = more buds. Also I have roughly 60 square feet in the flower room so the extra MH will mean 37 watts psf. I understand from other sources that you want atleast 20 but over 50 starts getting excessive.

So with this positive feedback, It is now a plan!

Now it's just a matter of the configuration. At the moment the two HPS are running on a 9' rail (two hoods trollied together). I am considering adding a third hood on that same rail with the MH in the center of the other two, thus creating an W pattern blend of the light. What do you think?

Also, How did you like my past successes? :cool:

[Razer]

Sorry for putting up 1200 x 1600 pics. Rookie message board mistake.

Here are some better resolution (and smaller) pics.) :cool:

[Gardenking]

Hey Razer; I think the extra light is a good idea man, like you say; the more light the more bud. Thats why i use a 1000 watt...by the way; beautiful buds bro!

[Razer]

I appreciate your appreciation Gardenking! Have a hazy day. :cool:

[Razer]

just as a correction, my first light was a 1000 HPS not MH as stated earlier.

[busteruk7]

nice job razor they are some nice looking buds dude

[Razer]

thank you, thank you very much.....

ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING lol