View Full Version : Why Does Everyone Say Vapes Are Most Effecient?
norplo
12-03-2009, 11:35 PM
It was principally because of those claims that I spent $200 on an HerbalAire, and the same amount of pot I used to burn in a pipe gets me only about 2/3s as high.
First I hit it at 280f, then 330f, then 370f then full 400f.
In the videos of dudes using HerbalAires or Volcanoes on YouTube, there's TONS of vapor - but when I do it there's nearly none.
I think there's problems here. Mechanical?
Is the HerbalAire just a bad model?
Silverstone
12-03-2009, 11:40 PM
Try the Volcano and set the temp for 390 F. That's what I use and I get plenty of vapor out of bong load. Just be sure to get every bit of vapor you can even when it gets thin. On the Volcano you can see it in the clear balloon when it gets thinner. But yeah the vape's are gentler and giving your lungs a break. Try the vape on wk days and the pipe on wk ends.
MrMojoRisin7127
12-04-2009, 01:06 AM
It was principally because of those claims that I spent $200 on an HerbalAire, and the same amount of pot I used to burn in a pipe gets me only about 2/3s as high.
First I hit it at 280f, then 330f, then 370f then full 400f.
In the videos of dudes using HerbalAires or Volcanoes on YouTube, there's TONS of vapor - but when I do it there's nearly none.
I think there's problems here. Mechanical?
Is the HerbalAire just a bad model?
Could possibly be that you are just taking in the THC slower because vaping takes a bit longer. If you pot isn't very potent, you won't get much vapor either. It is also very important that your bud is ground up very very fine.
Taylor
Buddha Man
12-04-2009, 04:23 AM
if you dont get that high, try smoking ur vaped bud could still be sum THC on it
senorx12562
12-04-2009, 07:53 AM
Maybe your weed just sucks.
scrumby
12-04-2009, 10:01 AM
Maybe your weed just sucks.
The poster plainly states "the same amount of pot I used to burn in a pipe gets me only about 2/3s as high." the pot is compared unto itself using different techniques. therefore it is the technique in question, and not the pot, and its original strength is not a factor.
It's hard to tell if you are ignorant, or just like making douchebaggy comments. I suspect the later, but if not I hope I cleared things up for you.
norplo
12-04-2009, 10:45 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys, except for senorx :P
I would try the volcano but I haven't $600. $200 is the limit.
I got a grinder with the vaporizer but no matter how much I twist it doesn't actually seem to grind it. :P It does seperate tightly packed stuff though at least.
I'll inhale about six bagfulls as fast as it takes to fill them, which is maybe a minute per. That's as quick as it goes, still seems inefficient and wasteful.
I guess there's nothing to do but try a different vaporizer
thanks again everybody
stuartambient
12-04-2009, 02:18 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, except for senorx :P
I would try the volcano but I haven't $600. $200 is the limit.
I got a grinder with the vaporizer but no matter how much I twist it doesn't actually seem to grind it. :P It does seperate tightly packed stuff though at least.
I'll inhale about six bagfulls as fast as it takes to fill them, which is maybe a minute per. That's as quick as it goes, still seems inefficient and wasteful.
I guess there's nothing to do but try a different vaporizer
thanks again everybody
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i think it' about the best forum site out there for vaporization talk.
senorx12562
12-04-2009, 03:30 PM
The poster plainly states "the same amount of pot I used to burn in a pipe gets me only about 2/3s as high." the pot is compared unto itself using different techniques. therefore it is the technique in question, and not the pot, and its original strength is not a factor.
It's hard to tell if you are ignorant, or just like making douchebaggy comments. I suspect the later, but if not I hope I cleared things up for you.
Maybe I'm an ignoramus who also likes to make douchebaggy (this word is not in my spellcheck, I must have too old a version) comments. When I first got a vaporizer, I found that some of my pot was of distinctly lower quality than some other, and I think the products of combustion complicated the comparison prior to using the vape. So my post was actually based in fact, and intended to be helpful. Is your holier-than-thou thing just an attitude you copped with me because of my obvious deficiencies, or are you that way with everyone? "Unto?" Really?
the image reaper
12-04-2009, 04:45 PM
I was extremely happy with my Herbalaire :thumbsup: , but, like all vaporizers, (Volcano, too), you can smoke the leftover 'duff', and still get high ... that makes it very obvious, that all the THC is NOT being released :wtf: ... the primary reason for a vaporizer, is to save your lungs from possible harm ... in fact, my doctor's recommendation specifically states my pot is to be "vaporized or ingested" ... regardless, I definitely prefer joints ... :smokin:
lwien123
12-04-2009, 07:28 PM
"Why Does Everyone Say Vapes Are Most Effecient?"
--Norplo
Because they are.......
vapefiend
12-07-2009, 09:09 PM
The herbalAire has worked fine for me. You'll always get the most vapor in your first bag, no matter how much you load.
The part of the high you're missing with vapor, vs. smoke, is mostly the toxic by-products of smoke. Everyone thinks the smoke 'high' is just cannabis. It's not. It's also carbon monoxide, benzene, hydrogen cyanide, toluene, etc. If you really want to include the toxic effects in your high, you'll need to smoke.
weedlover714
04-26-2010, 07:13 PM
May Easy Vape works great. I use about 1/3 of the weed i used to smoke out of a bong. More high, more efficient, and less money spent!
if you have questions, why don't you post your question up to these guys i found at Medical Marijuana Bootcamp Educational Videos (http://medicalmarijuanabootcamp.com) Pretty funny..
Frickr
04-26-2010, 07:43 PM
the ha is a great vape, many people are very happy with theirs. one of the things that people look over while vaping, is that vaping shwag just doesnt work. to get the most out of your vape you need to splurge and buy the top grade stuff.
also for me, i found that there was an adjusting period where i had to adjust to the differant spectrum of chemicals. it took me about a week of strictly vaping before i noticed my usage curving down. but once adjusted i get way more high then if i smoked. after vaping for so long, smoking just tastes bad and just makes me tired instead of high.
also hold your breath longer with the vape hits as they take a little longer to fully absorb.
Kingjames6
04-27-2010, 02:04 AM
I use an easy vape knock off, and it works just fine. A tip that works well for me is to moisten up your bud a little bit before you vape it. If you put a piece of orange peel in your bag (or preferably your locking speghetti jar) it will keep it damp so that the vapors comes out nicely...also adding a fantastic taste to your inhale.
The only downside is it makes grinding your bud nearly impossible, so grind up a g, put a quarter sized peel in the bag for a couple hours (time of saturation is dependent upon how much weed you have in your bag) so that way its pre-ground up for instant use.
Oh yea, and if you are feeling adventuous, try a grapefruit peel. Its a zinger for sure, veryyyy tastey. Orange crush+moist grapefruit vapors=amazing time!
Frickr
04-27-2010, 03:36 AM
I use an easy vape knock off, and it works just fine. A tip that works well for me is to moisten up your bud a little bit before you vape it. If you put a piece of orange peel in your bag (or preferably your locking speghetti jar) it will keep it damp so that the vapors comes out nicely...also adding a fantastic taste to your inhale.
The only downside is it makes grinding your bud nearly impossible, so grind up a g, put a quarter sized peel in the bag for a couple hours (time of saturation is dependent upon how much weed you have in your bag) so that way its pre-ground up for instant use.
Oh yea, and if you are feeling adventuous, try a grapefruit peel. Its a zinger for sure, veryyyy tastey. Orange crush+moist grapefruit vapors=amazing time!
have you ever tried placing a small peice of peel in your wand while you vape? i've done this with an orange peel with great success, i find it gives the vapor a nice amount of moisture, and gives it a very flavorful taste. i find that weed vapes better when its well cured and properly dried. too dry you loose flavor but get huge hits, too moise, i find it takes longer to get all the vapor out, as you have to vape the water first.
BuzzBob
04-29-2010, 03:50 AM
I think I know what you mean, and I think it's because the smoking itself provided something to the experience that vaporizing doesn't. I remember smoking, and one or two puffs from a joint would set off a coughing spell that would leave me gasping and saying, "Wow, this is good stuff. I'm baked." But I was simply stunned by the poisonous components that smoke contains.
I have not tried the Herbalaire. I've tried the Da Buddha and the Vapor Genie. Of the two, I think the Vapor Genie more closely mimicks the smoking experience.
420barista
05-02-2010, 10:59 PM
"Why Does Everyone Say Vapes Are Most Effecient?"
--Norplo
Because they are.......
Well Lwein123 you are on the Mark
I should Mention that I was directed to a very efficient vape by Lwein123 way back in January called the Purple days. And have found similar styled vapes called the woodeez and the myrtlezap. and all 3 look like a soda can sized rounded piece of wood. But my point is with these types of vapes while they look alike there are are a few differences. First up is the myrtlezap (which I think was the first of this style) my only objection to it was the brass used in its heatsink. Then I think tom liked the myrtlezap so much he made his own and called it purple days but used stainless steel parts for the heat exchanger and then the purpledays was the hot ticket vape to get but the problem was they had a 3 month waiting list they got so backordered. And then there was the woodeez a purpledays knockoff and no waiting list. So my choice was easy I wanted a Purpledays but didnt want to wait months.
And then tom is offering pandora kits which is an unassembled purple days. Hey Im handy and figured I could assemble no prob but i asked for a custom order kit with a purple leather bottom and was told by his wife no prob I was even looking into other stuff he sold and was waitng for her to send me an invoice to pay. She said she would send later that night as they were busy it being monday i gather. tuesday by noon my time i still havent recieved the invoice and sent an email out as a reminder but tom shoots back no vape for you I apparently upset his wife and he blocked me from further contact. So i ordered a woodeez and have been using it for 2-3 months and I love it.
With this style vape what i would normally use in a month smoked lasts nearly 3 months in the vape and an added bonus is i got leftover Already Been Vaped (ABV) herb that i saved and tried an extraction technique and found some potency left in that ABV and was very impressed with the effect.
I renamed my combustion bong The Hot Bong Time Machine.
"It brings you back to the heady highs of the 80's.
And of course i just got done watching the hot tub time machine.
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