First grow. Looking for advice

[canni13is]

Hello all. This is my frist grow and im looking for a little advice. MY current setup is 2 workshop lamp holders and 4 cool white flouresent bulbs hanging about 3 inches from the top of the plant. Right now the plants are about 3 1/2 weeks old and hopefully already transplanted to their final pot. the square pot is 11x11x10 and i have 2 plants growing in it. This being my first grow im not sure if they are slow growing or looking pretty good. as you can see in the pictures they have a good green color canapy and for the most part perky. the smaller plant which spouted about 4 days later is much smaller and shorter. It's leaves are a little "Warped" i guess you could say as well. The room itself has good vent and air movement and is at a constant 68 F. Just wondering what my next steps are and what i should be expecting in weeks to follow. Thanks.

[fourkicks]

first off you should use seperate pots man.
them roots will be fighting for space down there and that will stunt its growth..

as for what you can expect..... you only get back what you put in?

[canni13is]

I figured id get hell about having 1 pot. However i was also told that that pot was more then enough to grow 2 plants in. Lets hope it doesnt effect it all too terribley much.

[canni13is]

anyone got anything else other then 1 plant per pot.

[redtails]

Well, how big are you going to let them get? 4 cfl's isn't all that much in terms of light so you might need to get a few more to put around the sides/top when they get some more height but you're fine for now. With temps that low you could actually put the lights about 1" away from the tops(2 on each) and the plant will get more light since fluorescents really don't throw light that far. You have any sort of fertilizer? A high N content in vegetative growth is recommended and a lower N and high P fertilizer in flowering is best. Towards the final few weeks of budding you want to basically stop giving N, then all nutrients all together; finishing with plain water to let the plant use up all it's stored nutrients.

With two plants in one pot, not only are your roots possibly going to get crowded but if you run into any sort of problem like incorrect pH or over/under-fertilization or over/under-watering it happens to both. Pretty much anything that goes wrong with one will transfer to the other so be careful or you could lose both.

[LetsSeeYa]

Yeah one pot per plant. What you see above the dirt is the same under the soil, just in roots. But i also think your going to need more light. They recommend 5,000 lumen's to veg and 2,700 to flower. They look great now but they will do much better w/ more lights. CFL'S are cheep and you can get Y splitters to put 4 bulbs under a U lamp. I use them and so do a lot of people on here. I have 2 and want to go with at least 8 with 26w cfl's that would be 56,000 lumen's. Check out the lighting section and good luck:thumbsup::rasta:

[canni13is]

Currently im not using cfl's just 4 regular long tube bulbs. Are cfl's better cause i have about 10 of them to use if so. i can add 2 more tubes but it wouldnt be directley above it not sure it would benifit any right now. When they get bigger i will prolly add another 2. As for fertilizer i havnt used any yet as i havnt felt they are lacking in any nuts. Should i go ahead and start using them in hopes to enhance growth? What if i dont use any at all can i still get decent results? As i said this is my first grow and before this have had little knowledge in botany. I just want a successful outcome and learn from there. Any guidance is appreciated.

[canni13is]

the lights are 40w 3200 lumens. So 3200 x 4 = 12800 lumens. I assume my lighting is fine... anyone confirm?

[canni13is]

Also do they seem small for 24 days old?

[PAYBACK]

I THINK UR LIGHT IS TOO CLOSE... I NEVER PUT IT CLOSE DURING VEGATATIVE STAGE ONLY FLOWERING. FROM WHAT I KNOW U WANT THEM TO STRETCH A LIL WHILE THEY VEG. MINES ARE 12-24 INCHES USUALLY ON THE 2-3 WEEK

HERES A PIC OF MY INDOOR FLOWER ROOM

[redtails]

Don't know why you would want them to stretch...stretching during veg usually means the plants aren't getting enough light.

I think your plants are a little bit slow, but I've seen way worse. Remember that the light in the tubes is spread across the whole 4' tube so the plants are only getting a portion of the lumens that it's rated at.

[canni13is]

Are ferts used for faster growth? If so what is recommended?

[ForgetClassC]

No ferts untill they have about 4-5 nodes. If you have soil that has an analysis on it, you shouldn't need nutes for a good bit seeing as thats a giant container.

[LetsSeeYa]

the lights are 40w 3200 lumens. So 3200 x 4 = 12800 lumens. I assume my lighting is fine... anyone confirm?

Well the more the better but if ya have cfl's, when they get bigger i would use em for sure. Even now you could use them 2-3'' away from your plants they will grow faster. But, what ya got going on looks good, but add the other 2 lights and try to reflect some light your loosing from the sides with painted flat white card board or something reflective. I started w/ 2 cfl's as its a set up and grow at the same time due to low cash flow. But, after i put the y splitters on, you could tell the difference each day. You will see the difference over night. But, other then that, they look great:thumbsup:.Oh and yeah no nutes yet as this was answered:jointsmile:

:rasta:

[canni13is]

I just replanted them both into their own pots, i will post a few pictures in a few days after a hopefully successful transplant.

[canni13is]

I also just broke down and added a cfl directly in the middle of the pots. not much room under there but i got it. Temp is now a steady 70.

[redtails]

Alright, you're well on your way now. Stay vigilant, it's only a little while longer!

How big are you expecting to let your plants get? I'd say you might have 2 or 3 more weeks until you start to flower if you plan on using fluorescents the whole way. Now's the time to get yourself ready: make sure you have enough lights to finish a 2-3' plant(fluoros only penetrate like half a foot or so really well) and some fertilizer with a higher P and fairly low N.

[canni13is]

Today i also went out and bought new cfl's and replaced the ones i had in my setup right now. I noticed that i wasnt using 6500k daylight bulbs so i switched them out. Hopefully that will give them a better spectrum of light they need.

After transplanting them last night and watering them the leaves are still droopy. im assuming it takes them a few days to recover from the transplant and continue growth.

[Charbud]

they do look a bit small for 24 days, heres a pic of mine at 27.

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if you play around with your plants too much you will encounter problems and i found that out the hard way ! just try not to think about them too much and let them do their thing !!

good luck:rastasmoke:

[redtails]

The leaves droop when you water a lot. Now that's not really a bad thing since you just transplanted and probably watered quite a bit, but if they don't perk up soon there could be other problems causing it.

[canni13is]

Here are pictures of my biggest plant 9 days ago. I had to mix soil when i transplanted and have a feeling that is what cause some nute problems but seems to be under control now.

[canni13is]

they have grown alot in the past 9 days for sure. but the biggest one i dont really kno whats going on with it. I water till i see water draining out of bottem and 2 days later soil is dry, crispy and the soil edge is coming in from the pot. So i water again.... plant then starts to droop alot as you can see. any help would be welcomed. The smaller plant is really bushy, under its big leaves there are a ton of little sprouts and leaves. i tried to show in the picture. The temp within 3-4 inches of the plant is about 77-79. They seem to be growing fast now but seems to be all out and compact and not really much height which i suppose is okay. Im under the impression to not start flowering till the plant has reached its full mature state which you can tell from the alternating growths from the stem rather them symmetrical. confirm or deny?


btw the first 2 pics are biggest plant second 2 of are smaller plant

[toxicmel]

woah it looks like they are drooping alott
maybe too much water?
or not enough?
i wouldnt start flowering untill they are standin pointy up

[thehotcompost]

anyone got anything else other then 1 plant per pot.one plant per pot i thought was standard procedure,One plant will surely kill the the other one in the fight for space all them roots inter mingling souds like the motorway for the world inside the pot gonna be a lot of accidents lol

[canni13is]

anyone have any advice for the drooping and when to start flowering?

[canni13is]

1 of my plants looks as if there are preflowers. she is my oldest been in veg for 2 months. what you think? I have few problems with nuts as you can tell but nothing that is really stopping growth it seems.

[jtsik330]

1 of my plants looks as if there are preflowers. she is my oldest been in veg for 2 months. what you think? I have few problems with nuts as you can tell but nothing that is really stopping growth it seems.

I would say they look pretty good, yellowing on a few of the plants but I don't think it will be a big deal? Are you giving the plant some type of nutes? They can go into flowering now:D Really whenever you want but i'm hoping to kick my babies into flowering at 4-5 weeks veg.

[canni13is]

no nutes as of today. i might start giving some blood meal thou. I really would like to confirm that 1 of my plants is female as i want to clone off her so i can stop wasting time with seeds. As for flowering them, im gonna hold off and let them get fully mature as i dont really care about time. I just want a quality grow for my first time.

[Faddenator]

Did you ever get that drooping situation fixed??? It looked like overwatering... hope everything is okay now! :thumbsup:

[canni13is]

Im pretty sure it was overwater. I cut back on my water for a week and things started to perk up. 1 plant thou ( back left plant in my recent pictures) seems to just droop. I think it has to do with the lights being just a little bit too close. which in return i think makes the plant not fan out as much. I have recently moved the grow to a better grow area which i hope is easier to manage things like light. temp etc... Once i confirm a female i will then start and learn how to clone.

[LetsSeeYa]

If you open link you can see pistil marked. Second is male, just if you wanted a visual. After 2 months in veg, they would be ripe to flower, in less your trying to get more height out of them.

Good luck man:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

If you open link you can see pistil marked. Second is male, just if you wanted a visual. After 2 months in veg, they would be ripe to flower, in less your trying to get more height out of them.


BTW when using soil with nute added, iv found that when they are more on the dry side, they are more stable. When that type of soil is watered, it kicks out nutes, so over water is over water, plus nute burn. At least thats what happen to me, but keeping them dry keeps the soil from over nuting:thumbsup:


Good luck man:rasta:

[canni13is]

ya im for sure i dont see any balls. But i dont really wanna put plants into flowering until i for sure found a mother i can clone. I was hoping i would have one pre flower and make it easy for me. im pretty sure those are pistils..... but then i dunno much.

[canni13is]

Tonight is first night of 12/12. The fun begins

[canni13is]

I have a confirmed Male, he is growing very nice. If i wanted to keep him for beaners, how long do i have until i have to remove him from the females?

[jtsik330]

ASAP!! Don't risk it get em into a different room!!:pimp:

[canni13is]

There is prep to be done.. im going to have to get lights for another room and timer for 12/12 etc. I was looking for a more scientific answer........ i know it has to be done but about how long do i have?

[canni13is]

Here are some new pictures of the female i have into flower.

[GIjaneBRAD]

drooping usually means not enough water...so just stick your finger in the soil about 2 inches deep and feel how wet...if you feel any moisture at all dont water but if none then water...happy growing...

[GIjaneBRAD]

oh and about the flowering...some people say let her grow untill she is around 12 to 16 inches tall then force flower it by swithcing to 12/12 light

[LetsSeeYa]

There is prep to be done.. im going to have to get lights for another room and timer for 12/12 etc. I was looking for a more scientific answer........ i know it has to be done but about how long do i have?

Hey Cann, looking great man. As far as the male, the pollen will not bug your girls till the sac's open, but you dont wanna wake up one day and there open, you will have a seeded crop. If you can move it into a box in a different room and put a couple cfl's on it, when it flowers you can get some pollen then ditch it. The male i posted in here was sitting by my biggest female, but i only found 2 seeds. Now it wasn't long after i took the pic that i moved the male. Also, if you see an open flower spray it with water, then the pollen cant escape. So if you keep it misted everyday and keep an eye on it, move it just before it looks like what i posted.

Hope this helps, ya got a nice grow going on there. Not sure if you have seen mine, but i have 11 cfl's and the buds look good and will be harvesting soon. I think the cfl's work better then i thought in the beginning.

keep er green man :weedpoke:

Rep given:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[canni13is]

Thanks LSY, ive been misting them everyday. im nuting about every 1 1/2 weeks. They seem to be doing good so far. MY other female is just now starting to bud but i have feeling she is going to be much much bigger my other one. These are just mixed bagseed from some great bud. They are turning out better then expected considering what im working with. Next grow i will step it up to a real lighting system, better soil and maybe some good nuts as well as some known strain seeds. This was a learning phase for me as ive never grew any kind of plant before. Just gonna keep learning

[jtsik330]

Thanks LSY, ive been misting them everyday. im nuting about every 1 1/2 weeks. They seem to be doing good so far. MY other female is just now starting to bud but i have feeling she is going to be much much bigger my other one. These are just mixed bagseed from some great bud. They are turning out better then expected considering what im working with. Next grow i will step it up to a real lighting system, better soil and maybe some good nuts as well as some known strain seeds. This was a learning phase for me as ive never grew any kind of plant before. Just gonna keep learning
I'm in the process of growing my second batch of bag seeds and I just germinated some seeds from Attitude. They germinated in a day and already are 3 inches out of the soil after just 2 1/2 days!! Bagseeds were used to get a feel for growing and now I'm amazed with the growth of genetic seeds!!I'm sure you'll say the same when you get around to getting some.

[GIjaneBRAD]

well as for watering i usually go every 3 to 4 days and then check...i check by putting finger in soil about 2 inches deep and if its COMPLETELY dry then i water but if there is any moisture at all then i let her stay... sometimes i like to leave her in a drought though to make the roots stretch out because the bigger the roots usuallly bigger the plant.


and for the flowering thing usually people say when the plant is a little over half the size you want it to be at the end flower it...good luck and happy growing...:thumbsup:

[GIjaneBRAD]

sorry i just forgot to ask...you said you wanted to upgrade you lighting system well im just curious as to what you are using now. because im in the beggining stages of veg right now and my plants are doing great right now but idk what kind of light im going to need for fowering and for bud so i was just wondering...thanks.

[stra8outtaWeed]

Thanks LSY, ive been misting them everyday. im nuting about every 1 1/2 weeks. They seem to be doing good so far. MY other female is just now starting to bud but i have feeling she is going to be much much bigger my other one. These are just mixed bagseed from some great bud. They are turning out better then expected considering what im working with. Next grow i will step it up to a real lighting system, better soil and maybe some good nuts as well as some known strain seeds. This was a learning phase for me as ive never grew any kind of plant before. Just gonna keep learning

looks like you could use a little cal mag, it will help the yellowing~i use it through week 6 and it really gives your girls a more vibrant green~happy plant=better bud :jointsmile:

keep em griowing...good work!

[DocKgreenThumb]

What up canni likin them picks of ur girls
hope 2 to have sum girls gone wild of my own :) was wondering if you knew were would be best to post for a new guy lookin for advice?thanks.

[kevin10]

hi everyone,just wondering weather i could get some advice aswell.my first grow went o.k-ish.....then when i started my second grow i listen to a friend and put my second grow on 12/12 from week 2 (from seeds).i know now that i shouldnt have listened but i did......so i'm at week 5 and would love to boost my yield by going back to veg....has anyone got any advice....or well changing them back to 18/6 for a bit stress them out to much........advice anyone?

[canni13is]

Thanks everyone checking out the thread. This is my frist grow and ive learned alot but nit even close to being done.

GIjaneBRAD for lighting upgrade, right now im using 8 cfl's 4-43w and 4-23w. I think i will prolly get a Amazon.com: Sun System 150w Grow Light Fixture with Bulb: Patio, Lawn & Garden (http://www.amazon.com/System-150w-Grow-Light-Fixture/dp/B001JL0BWG/ref=pd_sim_ol_15) or something similar. right now im using 260+ watts and getting about 16000 lumens. Seems much more practical to use 1 bulb that can produce that. Plus its HPS and will give me much better light pentatration.

kevin10 as for going back to 24/0 from 12 /12 it is possible but will take awhile for the plant to adjust back.

DocKgreenThumb i would start by either creating a grow log or another thread for your specific grow that way people can subcribe to it and follow your grow and answer questions and give advice to it.


stra8outtaWeed right now this grow is nut free other then what was in the soil. Im not experienced enough i feel to really troubleshoot and remedy plants with nuts. My next grow i will give it a shot thou.

[DocKgreenThumb]

Thanks
about your possible hps upgrade which would be more economical in the long run
your current cfl setup??
Or the 1 hps??
Or maybe the 1 hps and like 4 cfls one at each side of the plant


Hope you don't mind but if you or any one has the chance give it a look
under indoor grow labeled: any advice for my first time grow
URL: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/180955-any-advice-my-first-time-grow.html#post2067151

thanks in advance and will deff. Try that grow log just wanna settle in 1rst

[DocKgreenThumb]

Thanks everyone checking out the thread. This is my frist grow and ive learned alot but nit even close to being done.

GIjaneBRAD for lighting upgrade, right now im using 8 cfl's 4-43w and 4-23w. I think i will prolly get a Amazon.com: Sun System 150w Grow Light Fixture with Bulb: Patio, Lawn & Garden (http://www.amazon.com/System-150w-Grow-Light-Fixture/dp/B001JL0BWG/ref=pd_sim_ol_15) or something similar. right now im using 260+ watts and getting about 16000 lumens. Seems much more practical to use 1 bulb that can produce that. Plus its HPS and will give me much better light pentatration.

kevin10 as for going back to 24/0 from 12 /12 it is possible but will take awhile for the plant to adjust back.

DocKgreenThumb i would start by either creating a grow log or another thread for your specific grow that way people can subcribe to it and follow your grow and answer questions and give advice to it.





stra8outtaWeed right now this grow is nut free other then what was in the soil. Im not experienced enough i feel to really troubleshoot and remedy plants with nuts. My next grow i will give it a shot thou.


Was wondering is it possible to use that hps 150 watt light fixture for all stages of growth. Veg and flower?? If so what bulbs you buy??

[stra8outtaWeed]

Was wondering is it possible to use that hps 150 watt light fixture for all stages of growth. Veg and flower?? If so what bulbs you buy??

one of the first lights i bought was a 4' 4bulb T-5/(2)150 watt hps combo hood and it was a great veg light but not so hot on budding...the 150 watt hps's are not really made for growing like a Hortilux bulb!jmho!


stra8outtaWeed right now this grow is nut free other then what was in the soil. Im not experienced enough i feel to really troubleshoot and remedy plants with nuts. My next grow i will give it a shot thou.

if you are nute free get a PH pen to stick in the soil to watch your PH levels~if your soil is 6.2 - 6.6 your plants are taking all they can get but if it is out of that range she can starve and have plenty of food in your soil! ;)

[DocKgreenThumb]

Does that apply yo hydro if its even possible since theres no original nutes from a soil? So you think I'm better off with cfls though out the entire cycle?

[redtails]

pH comes in handy for soil, as well as hydro. I think he also meant 150w lights aren't that much better, I've heard that the 250s are pretty good though.

[canni13is]

250s? not aware or understand what bulb that is. link?

[LetsSeeYa]

250s? not aware or understand what bulb that is. link?

He is saying 250 w HPS light rather then the 150 w HPS:rasta:

[crf70rider]

im currently running a 3x4x7 shed at my buddies and we have i have my 400watt hps and a 4ft floresent t8 cool blue and the hps is like a shop light but what funny is my plant that i have under the floresent is doing better then the one under the hps is it cause its not a hotilux???

[krisk1227]

everyone has there own methods but i believe in mixin hps,mh,cfl through entire grow....

[canni13is]

I found a grow shop in my local area that is a growers paradise. I picked up 3 bags of fox farm ocean forest, clonex, some root starters, and some koolbloom dry. I took some cuttings from my other female plant who i feel has some good qualitys that i want (vigiorous growth, medium height, very bushy). This is my first attempt at cloning so only time will tell. I also started my furtherest along plant on a its first nute feeding. I started very very very light maybe if lucky 1/4 of regular dose. Attached are some pics of her. She looks yummy and i cant wait to burn the bitch. :jointsmile: Im still undecided on my lighting. the guy at my grow shop was very positive on using CFL's. I was thinking i might just mix the spectrums rather then just going all 6500k. He suggusted to wait till my next grow as switchin spectrums at this point would put unneeded and unwanted stress on them. But at least ill be better prepared on my next grow.

[stra8outtaWeed]

nice lookin girl~go easy on the kool bloom...its strong stuff....glad you found a cool shop :smokin:

you'll like the ocean forest~good stuff:thumbsup:

keep up the good work:jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

I found a grow shop in my local area that is a growers paradise. I picked up 3 bags of fox farm ocean forest, clonex, some root starters, and some koolbloom dry. I took some cuttings from my other female plant who i feel has some good qualitys that i want (vigiorous growth, medium height, very bushy). This is my first attempt at cloning so only time will tell. I also started my furtherest along plant on a its first nute feeding. I started very very very light maybe if lucky 1/4 of regular dose. Attached are some pics of her. She looks yummy and i cant wait to burn the bitch. :jointsmile: Im still undecided on my lighting. the guy at my grow shop was very positive on using CFL's. I was thinking i might just mix the spectrums rather then just going all 6500k. He suggusted to wait till my next grow as switchin spectrums at this point would put unneeded and unwanted stress on them. But at least ill be better prepared on my next grow.

Hey Cann your plant looks nice man:thumbsup:. The cfl's did well for me, but i think we all want that killer set up. I know i will some day as well as your self. Looking like your going to smoke some nice buds off her soon:jointsmile:

:rasta:

[canni13is]

This first grow was really to just learn from, if i get anything smokeable i will be really really happy. All my plants are from HQ bagseed so i figured they were gonna be just as good as the stuff that was in the bag if not hopefully better. The more i got to think about it the more i was pushed towards using nutes. If im gonna learn i might as well try to cover as many details as i can on this test grow. My next grow i wanna be alot better prepared and armed with info to help my girls serve me better. In the end i wanna be able provide for myself and maybe have a little extra to socially smoke with friends. I dont need a big large grow nor do i want one. Just enough to get by. Thanks everyone for helping and watching me learn.

[canni13is]

So i have started to build a CFL lighting system for a walkin closet i have. I used a T12 fixture and attached security light fixtures to the inside. I only have 1 light fixture added as i wanted to make sure it would work good and be a nice clean install for me. the setup will hold 22 bulbs ( double that if i put in a Y splitter per lamp). This should provide me plenty enough light for the closet. the fixture itself only has cost me about $50 plus all the bulbs but i already have 11. I have included some pictures of the fixture. 1 of the pictures is photoshoped to give a better idea what final product will look like when done. Let me know your thoughts.

[canni13is]

I also wanna get some opinions or advice on spectrums. Currently right now im only using 6500k spectrum bulbs for both veg and flower. Have been reading and talking to people and seems there is alot of knowledge about using more warm and redish spectrums during flowering opposed to blueish. What if i ran Full spectrum for both would that be better? what am i losing by running only 6500k in flowering. what would i be losing if i didnt run 6500k at all in flowering.

[crf70rider]

well with MH and HPS its better to run both i run both spectrums with cfls but that because i never have enough for all cool or all warm i use wat i have like you should do! the plants never notice ....shit when i was about 14 me and my cousn grew three females with two 60wat bulbs they strecht alot but it was good bud when it was done i think it took like 4 month to grow about a foot and i dont remember how long they flowered for but yor light setup is wat cfls growers wetdream about

[canni13is]

new pics as of today. Soon im going to get a microscope so i can start actively watchin the trichs. Dont wanna harvest too soon or too late.

[OrangeWidow]

looks like my first grow. i recommend less water. those roots go deep and these plants can go with out water for some time. and since you are using CFL... no heat so you will want to wait for about 4-6 days before a real watering and maybe a little mist inbetween. you want those leaves t perk up towards the light.

Think as tho the trichs protect the plant... so less water the more trichs will produce trying to protect the plant from the light.

[canni13is]

I havnt watered that plant in 8 days. I dont water if i feel any moisture in the soil and i go down 4-5 inches. I do however mist once a day. Thou the plant pictured is 105 days old, leaves are dying and its coming to an end. I dont think there is much more "perking" this plant is gonna do. Another one of my plants just started flowering and looks as you describe, nice green color, leaves pointing sky high and very happy. I will post pictures of her tomorrow. The plant pictured was my first plant ever grown, i abused her alot. the fact that she is producing any buds at all let alone the quality of the ones she has now is a miricle.

[canni13is]

Well i finished my CFL lighting system as well as preparing a new grow area. This closet area is 6"x2"x6". I lined it with Reflectix Insulation. http://www.reflectixinc.com/images/uploads/3%20diy%20rolls%20larger.jpg. I added a 6 Inch fan in the top corner of the area for air movement. The CFL lighting system holds 20 bulbs and each head can be adjusted any direction. Im thinking about moding the reflector a bit to extend out more so it can actually reflect all the light downward. FRom the looks of it i should be able to fit about 8-10 plants in there. I will be laying a sheet of wood on top of a few blocks so the plants are not sitting directly on the floor thats why there is no Refeltix on the bottem 6 inches of the wall ( waste ). If anyone can give me any advice to better prepare this area for my new grow that doesnt involve alot of installation that would be cool.

[canni13is]

I picked 4 of these bad boys up for $13.00 a piece at home depot.68w 2700k and 4200 lumens on a cfl is great considering it doesnt put out alot of heat light can be spot directed.

[canni13is]

I just ordered 5 Feminized Blackjack and Snow White Seeds fron Nirvana. Cant wait to start growing a good strain. Grow room is set up and i have learned alot on my first grow. Lets hope i can improve and transfer that knowledge to my next grow.

[canni13is]

Checked trichs.... Still pretty much clear. She is starting to devolop a very unquie smell to her. Much like cat piss. Other girl is flowering real nice as well. She is about 8 inches taller and has 3x-4x as many bud sites. Cant wait to smoke my OWN product. It will be such a satisfying feeling.

[canni13is]

Here is a picture of my other girl. She is doing great. Had a bit of a burn up top but that looks as if it was corrected. She is much bigger and has alot more budding sites then my other girl. Tell me what ya think

[canni13is]

Got bored and snapped a few pics of the setup with plants. Wish old yeller there would hurry the fudge up.....i wanna smoke her.

[bigtopsfinn]

Very nice :thumbsup: I like the new setup. You did pretty well without any nutrients... your oldest one does look a little hungry still (probably could have used some more nutes along the line) but I wouldn't mess with it now. Look into getting a good nutrient regime for your next grow. Might not need the veg nutes if you're using foxfarm soil, but definitely get some for flowering.

Happy growing :jointsmile:

[canni13is]

Thanks BTF. The soil used for both those girls wasnt even the MG soil i bought. My ex old lady just purchused some catus like 2 weeks before we split. Well instead of of looking at those fuckers all day and taking care of them, i had some pretty good bag seed and decided what the hell, so i ripped out the catus and planted the seeds. Started very basic with what i had laying around and been trying to improve my set up and learn as i go. So just the fact that those 2 girls are producing anything is way above my expectations to be honest. I have some Feminized Blackjack & Snow White seeds that i will be starting soon as these ghetto girls get out the way. Having improved my lighting, grow space, temp control, venting and air movement, growing medium (FFOF) and some blooming nutes. I wouldnt see why my next grow wont blow these girls out of the water. I want to try a few grow techniques with a few plants to see what i can pull off next grow as well. ( LST, Topping)


As for blooming nutes i do have some koolbloom dry. Might switch over to a FF product thou.

Thanks for viewing. Ive been keeping a steady eye on your grow as well. Very interested in the TW. It was a strain i was very very close to getting.

[canni13is]

More pics of my other girl. She is really starting to flower nice. Looking really healthy and has alot more bud sites then the runt which im glad to see. Thanks for viewing

[canni13is]

Just recieved my seeds in the mail today. Cant wait to start growing them. Just gotta finish up these bagseeds first..... grrr.

[LetsSeeYa]

Well i finished my CFL lighting system as well as preparing a new grow area. This closet area is 6"x2"x6". I lined it with Reflectix Insulation. http://www.reflectixinc.com/images/uploads/3%20diy%20rolls%20larger.jpg. I added a 6 Inch fan in the top corner of the area for air movement. The CFL lighting system holds 20 bulbs and each head can be adjusted any direction. Im thinking about moding the reflector a bit to extend out more so it can actually reflect all the light downward. FRom the looks of it i should be able to fit about 8-10 plants in there. I will be laying a sheet of wood on top of a few blocks so the plants are not sitting directly on the floor thats why there is no Refeltix on the bottem 6 inches of the wall ( waste ). If anyone can give me any advice to better prepare this area for my new grow that doesnt involve alot of installation that would be cool.

Killer light man:thumbsup:. It would be great to mount one on each wall and use a hook light with 3 splitters with 4 bulbs burning from the top. If you expand in there and stay with the cfl's, that would grow some great plants:thumbsup:. Just a thought:hippy:

Keep er Green man:weedpoke::rasta:

[canni13is]

Im not really following i guess. Can you go into greater detail? i dont get the mount on each wall thing. Visuals usually help me most :P

[LetsSeeYa]

Im not really following i guess. Can you go into greater detail? i dont get the mount on each wall thing. Visuals usually help me most :P

I was just thinking if you mount one of those fixtures on each wall, then use a light called ''hook light'' for the top lighting would be perfect. A hook light is something that is used as a work light, but you can put a splitter in it that can take 2 bulbs, well if you put a splitter in each socket, then the light will be able to use 4 lights. Get it? If you look in my log in here there are pics that would help. I used 3 for 4 plants and just harvested about 2oz's. cfl's work well IMO.

Any help just let me know:rasta:

[canni13is]

Ohh i see what your saying. But unfortunally there is only 1 wall, the otherside is closet doors. Plus if mounted 2 of those fixtures in the closet along with hanging cfl's from the top that would be over 50 cfl bulbs lol. It would be killer thou if someone could get away with it.

[crf70rider]

idk one day someones house is gonna burn down from a overload im just wondering whos got enough stupitity and the money to run like 100 cfls too 200 how would it work i wonder ?? i know my plants would love that !!

[canni13is]

Just gotta know what your doing when you are wiring and setting up. 100-200 cfls would cool too see but would cost too much for anyone to i think attempt it

[canni13is]

Took some pictures of the lower side buds. little purp up in there. Thats what i like to see.

[LetsSeeYa]

Ohh i see what your saying. But unfortunally there is only 1 wall, the otherside is closet doors. Plus if mounted 2 of those fixtures in the closet along with hanging cfl's from the top that would be over 50 cfl bulbs lol. It would be killer thou if someone could get away with it.

Well i wouldn't ever tell someone to invest in 50 cfl's. Hell it would be cheaper to get a 600hps cool tube. Well if you mounted half the light on the wall you have, then hang the hook light above, you could just turn the plant each day. Its just that side lighting is important using cfls. After your plant gets up there, you will see the problem with side lighting. Yields are bigger when iv seen good side lighting when cfl's are used. I know i wish i had more, but thats for next grow. Grow an learn ya know:thumbsup:

Keep er green man:rasta:

[canni13is]

Ya. I plan on LSTing my next crop for that exact reason. That will help get my light as close as possible to all the buds and will also prevent me from having to to harvest the top half and then wait for the bottem to get done. Im going to start a few more plants then i expected as well. I figure i might as well pop a few into my backyard and top and fimm the hell out of them and see how big and bushy they can get. I have a feeling it is going to be a very enjoyable summmer. :smokin:

[crf70rider]

i secound that this summers gonna be great .....i got some gurilla in me that gonna show itself this year its gonna be a white xmas for sure .... my new years resolution was to grow more than last year and since i got a messly 4gram of my little mother last year (well besides the outdoor harvest) but i got a harvest comming up on the 28th but i think ill let it go till april to make sur ill have some 420 smoke

[canni13is]

Second girl is really starting to grow her buds up and out. looking nice.

[canni13is]

few pics of the girls.. the youngest one has become a beauty. lots of bud growth still to come on her too. Oldest bitch is taking forever to ripen up. Just keeps swelling and swelling leaves getting darker and darker. alot of new growth on the buds as well. Trichs are still 85% milky so ill just keep waiting

[canni13is]

Here is the finished product from the oldest one. It is super super tasty. Has a real intense head perky high. makes ears tingle etc etc. I yeilded 26 grams. Little less then an ounce. The quality of it is fantastic. Im really happy with the outcome. I will post other girl once she starts to mature and finish.

[bigtopsfinn]

Beautiful buds! they look absolutely delicious :jointsmile:

[Gare0440]

that looks soooooo tassttyyyy:thumbsup:

[Nik]

because if it is, its a shame what people do to weed before it hits the market lol. or is it like dank bagseed? cuz i always considered bagseed from plain old bud or "Regs" . anyways, looks great and is very inspiring to new growers such as myself

[canni13is]

It was some seeds i found in some dank bags ive bought. I figure id learn my first time on some free seeds before i dove right in and started spending money on this hobby which i now enjoy alot. With a little tender care growing a plant for hobby rather then profit will produce 10x the quality of bud. Mexican dirt weed at one point grew on a plant that prolly looked and smelled great.But the processing methods of that bud really does a number on it. Ive enjoyed growing this bagseed and will continue to grow unknown and bag seeds whenever given the chance.

[stlcronic07]

as for the drooping of your leaves. move the lights closer to the plant and even ad more light to promote the leaf perking up. and dont water but every couple of days. for the flowering of the plants definatly wait for the leaves to get back up before you change to the 12/12 lights. but you can start to flower whenever you want but just know that the smaller your plants are when you start flowering the less you will yield when your plants are fully mature.

[canni13is]

lol umm did you even read any of this thread? or did ya read like the first post and decided chime in? Thanks for the reply anywho.

[canni13is]

here is the other lady. She is just in the last couple days started to pack on some weight. Cant wait till she is done.

[canni13is]

Here is the Monster lady who in my eyes has turned out awesome. She smells so sweet, almost like a bag of skittles. Im flushing her now so in about another week she will be cut. I cant wait to see what she yeilds dry. She is very dense and heavy. The top cola is the biggest one ive ever seen in real life. I wish i would have taken cuttings from her so i can keep this strain :(

[canni13is]

Well here she is cut and drying. The sweetest cannabis i have ever smelled. Smells like a citrus fruit. The main cola was so heavy cant believe it didnt bust over when growing. I will post Dried weight in about a week. Anyone wanna take any guesses how much that is dry?

[LetsSeeYa]

Well here she is cut and drying. The sweetest cannabis i have ever smelled. Smells like a citrus fruit. The main cola was so heavy cant believe it didnt bust over when growing. I will post Dried weight in about a week. Anyone wanna take any guesses how much that is dry?

Great grow bro:thumbsup:

:rasta:


Rep=given

[JungleSuperstar]

lovely grow:jointsmile::thumbsup: i rekun 1-2 ounces maybe like 40 sumthing gees:thumbsup:

[canni13is]

She turned out way better then i thought she would when i first started. My guess is its going to be about 70 grams. Its very dense buds. and that main cola is just massively heavy. Time will only tell.

[JungleSuperstar]

She turned out way better then i thought she would when i first started. My guess is its going to be about 70 grams. Its very dense buds. and that main cola is just massively heavy. Time will only tell.

i was going for super dry and super cured but ut better to tell becuz i cant actually feel or see those buds so i cant imagine what they look or weigh like, but 70 grams of PENG weed is not a bad crack :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

[canni13is]

Final Dry weight was 71 grams. Not bad for a first harvest.

[Charbud]

that bud does look scumptious. Congrats mate

[GetThisOrDie]

nice work...

Cool looking cola