1st Grow

[senorx12562]

This is my 1st time growing, but I decided not to economize, as I intend to continue barring unforseen circumstances. Veg room is about 10x5 and currently has 18 White Rhino, 4 unknown seedlings (free seeds for ordering from Amsterdam Seeds), a White Rhino mother (big one on the right in back) a Blueberry mother (smaller, left foreground) and about 100 clones. I'm using 2 400w Mh lamps, and an 8 tube t8 flourescent fixture for clones. I got the small plants from a friend as rooted clones, and also the mothers. Also pictured is my Flowering room, which is 10x12. In that room, I've got 4 600w HPS, and 2 400w MH. The mothers look kind of sparse because I've taken 60 cuttings in the last 2 days. Of course, I've got nothing flowering yet, so who knows what will happen? I'll keep you all up to date.

[senorx12562]

Or not.

[Felixthecat]

are those 6in or 8in air cooled
was there a reason you brought daystar AC instead of radiant AC

[senorx12562]

AC flanges are 6 in. I bought the daystars because the light pattern they put out was more concentrated and less diffuse than the radiants. Since my rooms have plenty of coverage I thought that was the way to go, versus going for more coverage at the expense of output at the canopy. As I recall they were about $20 cheaper too, although that wasn't a huge factor. It was all guesswork tho, as I still have no clue what I'm doing.

[Felixthecat]

they don't have 8in flange for ac daystar rite only radiant?

[senorx12562]

I'm not sure to be honest. Since I have two rows of 3 reflectors, each row with an 8 inch inline fan (with reducers to 6 inch ) I didn't look into anything else.

[DreadedHermie]

Subscribed.

That looks like a killer setup once you get it dialed in. Love the straight 8" pipe, low drag. Are you pushing the airflow through the hoods?

[senorx12562]

I have two separate 8" fans pushing cooling air (from the next room in the case of one, and from outside in the case of the other) through 3 lights each. The straight pipe goes directly outside, as does the cooling air from the lights. I may have to put a carbon filter in the room once flowering starts in earnest. At least 12 of my girls are ready to go to 12/12, and possibly all 18. I have some final light-tightness issues to deal with this weekend, since I do in fact dread hermies:D. Come summer I may have some heat issues, even with the air-cooled lights. To help with that, I think my photo-period is going to be 10pm-10am. I'm hoping to end up with a continuous harvest set-up with approx. 80 plants in flower at any given time. Please feel free to comment as I'm always looking to learn more, noob that I am.

[senorx12562]

Today's the day. I put 16 white rhinos into flower today. I vegged them for 7 weeks from rooted clones, so they are 18-24 inches tall. Because I only have that many, I was able to use just half of my flowering room/lights. Now, if I could only figure out how to keep clones alive long enough to root, maybe I could fill the rest of the room.:(

[GetThisOrDie]

Sweet setup. Looks like you are going to have alot of fun with it.
I know how you feel about the clones... I too have problems with cloning. Its a learning process i suppose.

Keep us updated and good luck!

[senorx12562]

Sorry for the low quality pictures.

[redtails]

How are you cloning? If you give some specifics maybe we can help you out. Man, you really went all in on that setup didn't you? Wish I had the cash and space to just do that...Good luck!

[senorx12562]

How are you cloning? If you give some specifics maybe we can help you out. Man, you really went all in on that setup didn't you? Wish I had the cash and space to just do that...Good luck!
I didn't have the cash, but I have really good credit, so I guess I am really all in. About $8000.00 and seemingly going up daily, including $1500.00 of electrical work. Scares the shit out of me. Rockwool cubes soaked in a solution of Advanced Nutrients' Jumpstart, H2O2 (a few drops/gal.), bloom nutes (very weak, like 3-400 ppm when my water starts @ 250), and the clones are sprayed with wilt-stop and put in a tray with a humidity dome. The mother is put on pure water for the week before clones are taken. I'm using rootech gel. This is my new method. Pictures are of my first set of clones since using this method. These were taken 6 days ago. Previously, my clones didn't look this good 24 hours after being cut and stuck, let alone 6 days, so maybe I'm figuring it out. I am a little worried though about a slight yellowing of some leaves. No sign of roots yet, but I'm cautiously optimistic. I really have no clue about whether I should be feeding them, and if so, how much? Foliar feedings? Misting them with water? Who knows ? I think they were kept too moist before, but....?

[LetsSeeYa]

Looking good man:thumbsup: Iv been lurking around in here, but havent posted anything. Im not sure as of why, cuz ya got it goin on for sure. Your going to get some nice buds with the killer set up ya got there:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Thanks. Nothing that anyone couldn't do with the space, a credit card, and a "If I'm goin broke anyway lets go big" attitude. I'll post regular updates with pics.

[headshake]

very impressive all the way around senor! very freaking nice. one of these days i hope to be running something that looks like what you are working with.

SUB-SCRIBED!


-shake

[dubuser]

Sweet set-up. Gotta spend money to make money, and with some luck and time this should return your total investment many times over...go big or don't even bother FTW. I will be looking forward to seeing your progress.

[senorx12562]

Gracias

[senorx12562]

Well, so far so good. Here's what you can expect at 17 days in flowering.

[LetsSeeYa]

Gezz man looking like heaven in there:thumbsup: They sure are fun to watch. You gotta great set up and its really paying off for ya. Wish i would have done what you did before i went broke:wtf:

Keeper green :weedpoke:


:rasta:

[senorx12562]

I probably did it RIGHT before I went broke.:(

[senorx12562]

I'm not sure if I have a problem, but wanted to get opinions from some of you experts out there. My grow has been flowering for 20 days, and the fan leaves are starting to yellow and then brown from the bottom up. I have been feeding with bloom ferts and liquid bat guano, but not a ton (I always err on the side of less w/ nutes). I know some yellowing of the leaves is normal during flowering as the plant uses nutes to build flowers instead of vegetation, but does this look ok to you for 20 days in? As you can see, the rest of the plant looks healthy. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

[redtails]

Looks exactly like normal yellowing during flower to me, not sure on the time-frame though, maybe someone more experienced can chime in...

[senorx12562]

Bump.

[senorx12562]

If anyone can offer assistance, I've started a thread in the plant problems section with the trouble-shooting form.

[LetsSeeYa]

They look like they are just ''done'' leaves, or the plant just dont need them anymore. Iv seen lots of pics of plants that the leaves fall as the plants get older. The plants iv seen were WW's too, which cross's the rhino? right.
The buds look pretty dang healthy:thumbsup:

Good luck man:rasta:

[headshake]

If anyone can offer assistance, I've started a thread in the plant problems section with the trouble-shooting form.

looks normal to me too senor. maybe a little early, but those leaves probably aren't getting a whole lot of light. so that combined with the fact that the plant is flowering is definitely plausible. i don't think that you have anything to worry about with that.

on one of the pics the fans up near the top of the plant are a little yellow. next time you might want to give your ladies a little more N before you flip them. some people like to gradually change over with a schedule similar to this....

2 parts veg/1 parts bloom
1 parts veg/1 parts bloom
1 parts veg/2 parts bloom
all bloom

that is obviously not specific, but more of an idea. this will help ensure that your ladies get enough N through flower because although they don't need much N during flower, they do need some as it's necessary in the production of chlorophyll and amino acids as well as essential for photosynthesis. it is also an essential element of tissue.

hope that helps.


-shake

[redtails]

I follow the fox farms schedule and they have N added in the 3rd & 4th week of flowering to help keep the leaves going though to harvest, only on my 2nd week of budding but the leaves haven't been losing their green yet & I hope to keep it that way.

[LetsSeeYa]

Iv done bonsai for 15 years and worked with lots of roots. I flipped when i grew my first plant, because i had to re pot so many times. If you dry em out and remove a bit of the bottom dirt the roots will only spread and would think it could only increase yield. Its only new soil, if its not disturbed to much id think it would increase roots equals above soil growth:thumbsup:

Or, its strain is the cause the WW's iv seen on here, big leaves fall off. All at once:wtf:Dude i can understand your grief. Seems ya got the pro's taken care of ya over there:thumbsup:Iv had so many issues come up that turned out to be nothing. It looked like all opinions could be true. So. Well. Um.

Keep er green :weedpoke:


:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Don't know if it will help or not, but tonight when my lights come on, I'm flushing all plants with water and florakleen, I'm adding cal-mag to my feeding regimen, and in a couple days when the soil dries a little from the flush, I'm re-potting in 5 gal. pots , although I would've gotten 3 gallon pots had my grow store not been out of them(for a week!). I'm not gonna fill them up all the way, as I don't think it's necessary. I don't think the roots are going to do a lot more growing at this point, but I can't not do it and hope. I can't afford to lose this crop, nor can I afford to impact my yield. Shit.

[LetsSeeYa]

Don't know if it will help or not, but tonight when my lights come on, I'm flushing all plants with water and florakleen, I'm adding cal-mag to my feeding regimen, and in a couple days when the soil dries a little from the flush, I'm re-potting in 5 gal. pots , although I would've gotten 3 gallon pots had my grow store not been out of them(for a week!). I'm not gonna fill them up all the way, as I don't think it's necessary. I don't think the roots are going to do a lot more growing at this point, but I can't not do it and hope. I can't afford to lose this crop, nor can I afford to impact my yield. Shit.

Sorry to hear about the set back my man. I really think re potting can only help and your right about not needing to fill em up as those roots will take fast as soon as water hits them. They dint look real bad, iv seen worse. I guess iv re potted so many times with only a positive result.

I dont know if it would help to find out if the mother plant behaved this way? If they were clones that is, i thought at the begining you just said plants, but assumed the were clones at one time.

Good luck man:rasta:

[senorx12562]

They are clones, but I have the mother. She's never been in flower, so I don't know if she'd do the same. She's in a 10 gal pot. My wife and I had a flush party last night, and this morning I transplanted the lot. Feed tomorrow and cross my fingers I guess. I'll let you know. Thx for checkin in.

[monny10]

Hey SenorX,

Sorry I cant help with the problem man, I'm a newbie myself... but I hope everything works out alright and you get some nice buds off those ladies!

Nice setup bye the way! :thumbsup:

monny

[senorx12562]

Thanks.

[senorx12562]

I think my girls survived the flush and repot ok. Restarting feeding regimen today. Enjoy the pics.:thumbsup: Feeling cautiously optomistic.

[LetsSeeYa]

I think my girls survived the flush and repot ok. Restarting feeding regimen today. Enjoy the pics.:thumbsup: Feeling cautiously optomistic.

They look great senor:thumbsup:. I am new but have worked with lots of roots. I think you will be happy. Id like to know what happens with that mother. If you flower it, i would be interested if it did the same thing. If it did il bet that would piss ya off, as child like mother:wtf:. But it would make my advise right. Shake is someone that knows what he's doing and he has never gave me nothing but good advise:thumbsup:.


:rasta:

[senorx12562]

My plan is actually to flower it, as I kept two clones to serve as mother plants, instead of flowering them. When I can get the clones I need from one or both of them, I intend to flower the current mom. I have a blueberry mother as well, with 28 clones waiting to root. I'll keep posting updates. If they stop I'm either in jail or dead.:blueknife:

[LetsSeeYa]

My plan is actually to flower it, as I kept two clones to serve as mother plants, instead of flowering them. When I can get the clones I need from one or both of them, I intend to flower the current mom. I have a blueberry mother as well, with 28 clones waiting to root. I'll keep posting updates. If they stop I'm either in jail or dead.:blueknife:

Well you can be sure that il be tuned in to see. I really want to get some blueberry sometime. I had a chance to try the WR a friend brought back from Cali he got at a dispensary and it blew me away. Have you ever looked at the marijuana growing guide on line, you can read about anything on there. When i have a problem iv checked it out before asking.

Cant wait to see them in all there glory my man, il be watching:thumbsup:



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[Theac74]

Man that all looks killer!!! Makes my mouth water! I have 12 on thier 2nd wk of bloom and seeing that it's my first indoor grow I can't wait until they look like that!! Good Luck Bro!!

[headshake]

Well you can be sure that il be tuned in to see. I really want to get some blueberry sometime. I had a chance to try the WR a friend brought back from Cali he got at a dispensary and it blew me away. Have you ever looked at the marijuana growing guide on line, you can read about anything on there. When i have a problem iv checked it out before asking.

Cant wait to see them in all there glory my man, il be watching:thumbsup:



:rasta:

i want some blueberrry too! or some blueberry kush (which i guess i could make with my own blueberry). lol.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

i want some blueberrry too! or some blueberry kush (which i guess i could make with my own blueberry). lol.


-shake

Oh yeah:thumbsup:. KushBerry sounds like a awesome strain to me

:420thought:






:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Here's the latest pix. Fed yesterday and added some blackstrap molasses to their nute solution. I'll do that until I flush the last two weeks. I cannot wait to see what kind of yield I get. That could determine whether I even have another grow. Can't wait to vape some either. Sorry again for the photo quality. Shitty camera and shitty photographer. Enjoy.

[redtails]

Looking great man! Let's hope you continue with it, I made the mistake of giving up for 7 yrs after a bad incident and am just getting back into it myself. If you don't though, I'm down in AZ and can probably come up and snag some of your equipment off ya lol.

[senorx12562]

Looking great man! Let's hope you continue with it, I made the mistake of giving up for 7 yrs after a bad incident and am just getting back into it myself. If you don't though, I'm down in AZ and can probably come up and snag some of your equipment off ya lol.
I feel much better now. Thanx.

[LetsSeeYa]

Im not sure the strain but thought ya might like to see this plant. It was a plant Green Man showed as a healthy plant. He talks of the N decreases dropping leaves as it matures.:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Man, mine never looked that bad. Hard to believe that's healthy.

[LetsSeeYa]

Man, mine never looked that bad. Hard to believe that's healthy.

Yeah i know, but i found it in the problem section and he used it as an example to the others with over under feeding. Also many other issues a grower might have. I thought of ya when i saw it. I thought it might ease your worries:thumbsup:

Its an interesting site. Some good info for people looking for answers and learning. I hope to get into 12/12 soon. I hope i can get close to what you have going on my man:jointsmile:


:rasta:

[psychodelic]

I'm not sure if I have a problem, but wanted to get opinions from some of you experts out there. My grow has been flowering for 20 days, and the fan leaves are starting to yellow and then brown from the bottom up. I have been feeding with bloom ferts and liquid bat guano, but not a ton (I always err on the side of less w/ nutes). I know some yellowing of the leaves is normal during flowering as the plant uses nutes to build flowers instead of vegetation, but does this look ok to you for 20 days in? As you can see, the rest of the plant looks healthy. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

I'm glad you helped your plants back to health, but I was wondering why you pruned so many of your leaves between Day 17 (http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/177685-1st-grow.html#post2044845) and Day 20 (http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/177685-1st-grow.html#post2045579)?

My guess would be that your ladies got stressed out from having almost no fan leaves. I usually prune 3-4 weeks into flowering, but only to maximize the canopy space. And if you're lollipopping, you only prune the bottom part. Unless the leaves are dead,, your plant wants to keep themto absorb light. I feel sad for your plants with no fans leaves :( lol

[senorx12562]

I'm glad you helped your plants back to health, but I was wondering why you pruned so many of your leaves between Day 17 (http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/177685-1st-grow.html#post2044845) and Day 20 (http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/177685-1st-grow.html#post2045579)?

My guess would be that your ladies got stressed out from having almost no fan leaves. I usually prune 3-4 weeks into flowering, but only to maximize the canopy space. And if you're lollipopping, you only prune the bottom part. Unless the leaves are dead,, your plant wants to keep themto absorb light. I feel sad for your plants with no fans leaves :( lol
I have only ever removed leaves that had absolutely no green left, so that they were incapable of photosynthesis. Whatever made the leaves turn yellow also eventually made them fall off, which tells me they weren't doing the plant any good. the only ones I took off were about to fall off anyway. The plants mostly pruned themselves.

[DreadedHermie]

It was a plant Green Man showed as a healthy plant.

I guess he likes them underfed, underwatered, and with so little turgidity that the drooping leaves restrict airflow, preventing efficient CO2/02 exchange and risking mold, fungus, and insect pests. :wtf:

I'd like to see what size pot that plant's in, too. Betcha too small.

Sorry, I tried not to comment on this, but IMO that's a poor representation of a nitrogen-deprived, but otherwise healthy plant.

LSY, if you know Green Man, tell him I recommend he take that girl out for dinner and a few drinks, and maybe buy her some new (bigger) shoes. :D

Sorry to thread-jack and be an asshole critic. But that's a pretty skanky-looking plant. Seriously. :hippy:

[genuine]

I've had periods of moderate sucess...and then months of failure and then since I changed to doing it this way...I have great sucess, only loosing maybe 2-3 out of 25.

-I use standard 10x20 tray, with humidity dome. Fill it 2-3 inches with peralite. Water the peralite with warm water. Put it one a heating pad. And then use rapid rooter clone plugs per Stinky Attic sticky.

-I open vent 1/4 and don't touch them for 4 days. Then open the vent more and daily take the cover off for a few minutes. After a week I start checking for roots every other day, and if the plugs or peralite dry out I might add more warm water.

When I had my troubles I believe part of the issue was my cloning solution had gone bad. My hydro guy instructed me to keep it in fridge and use only a spoonful at a time. Now I get tiny sized portions from him, they are like $3 each and the size of carmex lip stuff. PERFECT. Sterile and sealed, open the thing. Do two trays, 40-50 clones total, and throw the thing out.

[senorx12562]

I've had periods of moderate sucess...and then months of failure and then since I changed to doing it this way...I have great sucess, only loosing maybe 2-3 out of 25.

-I use standard 10x20 tray, with humidity dome. Fill it 2-3 inches with peralite. Water the peralite with warm water. Put it one a heating pad. And then use rapid rooter clone plugs per Stinky Attic sticky.

-I open vent 1/4 and don't touch them for 4 days. Then open the vent more and daily take the cover off for a few minutes. After a week I start checking for roots every other day, and if the plugs or peralite dry out I might add more warm water.

When I had my troubles I believe part of the issue was my cloning solution had gone bad. My hydro guy instructed me to keep it in fridge and use only a spoonful at a time. Now I get tiny sized portions from him, they are like $3 each and the size of carmex lip stuff. PERFECT. Sterile and sealed, open the thing. Do two trays, 40-50 clones total, and throw the thing out.
Thank you for the input. I've figured out something that is working for me. I actually started off having too much water in the tray, but more importantly (I think) was spraying the clones with a wilt-stop type product. I also started using a tiny bit of H2O2 and Botanicare's Jump Start in my pre-soak of my rockwool cubes, and started with a lower ph for the pre-soak solution (5.5-5.8). I'm finally getting an acceptable success rate, so much so that now I could use more veg space. A good problem to have I suppose. Thanx again.

[LetsSeeYa]

I guess he likes them underfed, underwatered, and with so little turgidity that the drooping leaves restrict airflow, preventing efficient CO2/02 exchange and risking mold, fungus, and insect pests. :wtf:

I'd like to see what size pot that plant's in, too. Betcha too small.

Sorry, I tried not to comment on this, but IMO that's a poor representation of a nitrogen-deprived, but otherwise healthy plant.

LSY, if you know Green Man, tell him I recommend he take that girl out for dinner and a few drinks, and maybe buy her some new (bigger) shoes. :D

Sorry to thread-jack and be an asshole critic. But that's a pretty skanky-looking plant. Seriously. :hippy:

Oh i agree with what you are saying, i only came upon it while reading the site. Marijuana Growing Guide Free Library (http://greenmanspage.com/guides/). It is a site that gives information about growing. But, there are ideas expressed on there that i have learned here, which are far different then experienced growers here. Now of course everyone as ''thier'' own methods, but some ideas are very different. Dont get me wrong i think there is some good info, but i tend to go with what the growers here advise, as i can see their results and that speaks for its self. But iv found some useful info there. I guess you need to buy into what makes sense. As far as that plant, didnt look right to me, but with senorx's problem i thought it would help him see that maybe his plants could be similer to what was called a healthy plant.

Interesting thing, he said to veg plants four months:wtf:. I guess if ya got
10' ceilings and a huge stash, no big deal but have never seen anyone do this:wtf:


BTW ya got more experiance then myself, so if i post some dumb ass info, set me right. It can only help me my friend and i can use as much tutoring as possible, so thank you:jointsmile:DreadedHermie:thumbsup:


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[DreadedHermie]

As far as that plant, didnt look right to me, but with senorx's problem i thought it would help him see that maybe his plants could be similer to what was called a healthy plant.


I figgered that. I know you want to help. :thumbsup:

But Senor's plants look very good to me. Certainly better examples of N-hungry, but healthy, than the Green example. Senor's yellowing seems just a tad extensive for the plants' age, and it's affecting the younger plant structures a bit more than seems usual to me, but this may be 'normal' for his strain under his conditions. (At this point, Senor's thinking, "Would you quit talking about me in the third person in my own thread? :wtf:)

Here is the first page I landed on when I checked out Green's page. There is a lot of really, really bad advice here:

Bend a young plant's stem back and forth to force it to be very thick and strong. Spindly stems can not support heavy flowering growth. An internal oscillating fan will reduce humidity on the leave's stomata and improve the stem strength as well. The importance of internal air circulation can not be stressed enough. It will excursive the plants and make them grow stronger, while reducing many hazards that could ruin your crop.

HYDROPONIC VEGETATIVE SOLUTION, per gallon:
Miracle Grow Patio (contains trace elements) 1 teaspoon
Epsom salts 1/2 teaspoon
Human Urine (OPTIONAL - may create odors indoors.) 1/4 cup
Oxygen Plus Plant Food (OPTIONAL) 1 teaspoon
This mixture will insure your plants are getting all major and minor nutrients in solution, and will also be treating your plants with oxygen for good root growth, and potassium nitrate for good burning qualities. Another good GROWTH PHASE mix is 1/4 tsp Peter's 20/20/20 fertilizer per gallon of water, with trace elements and oxygen added, or fish emulsion. Fish emulsion is great in the green-house or outdoors, where smells are not an issue, but is not recommended for indoors, due to its strong odor.


Human urine? :lol5: Might help keep deer away, but as a soil amendment? :wtf:

Potassium nitrate to help "burning?" (If you're making cannon fuses, maybe...) :wtf: Wonder if he flushes his nutes...

Fans "reduce" humidity? (they might lower relative humidity if they raise the temperature enough)

WTF is "excursive" the plants??? (Excursive means "prone to digression")

Not to mention the contradiction between the stated importance of air circulation and the inability of that droopy-ass plant to permit it.

And if you add ALL the crap-ola he's recommending into a single gallon of nute solution, well, I'm looking for some tip burn just to start things off. Hope you're not running young sativas...

There is no "Greenman." That whole site's just a link-referral-sales B.S. entity, with obsolete, sketchy info stolen from other sites and not checked for accuracy. Their goal is to make $$$, not provide useful info to patients who need meds. That's what's got my goat; I have friends and relatives who depend on MMJ--and this whore could mislead them.

Rant off. Senor, here's your thread back, and again, I'm sorry. :hippy:

[senorx12562]

I figgered that. I know you want to help. :thumbsup:

But Senor's plants look very good to me. Certainly better examples of N-hungry, but healthy, than the Green example. Senor's yellowing seems just a tad extensive for the plants' age, and it's affecting the younger plant structures a bit more than seems usual to me, but this may be 'normal' for his strain under his conditions. (At this point, Senor's thinking, "Would you quit talking about me in the third person in my own thread? :wtf:)

Here is the first page I landed on when I checked out Green's page. There is a lot of really, really bad advice here:


Human urine? :lol5: Might help keep deer away, but as a soil amendment? :wtf:

Potassium nitrate to help "burning?" (If you're making cannon fuses, maybe...) :wtf: Wonder if he flushes his nutes...

Fans "reduce" humidity? (they might lower relative humidity if they raise the temperature enough)

WTF is "excursive" the plants??? (Excursive means "prone to digression")

Not to mention the contradiction between the stated importance of air circulation and the inability of that droopy-ass plant to permit it.

And if you add ALL the crap-ola he's recommending into a single gallon of nute solution, well, I'm looking for some tip burn just to start things off. Hope you're not running young sativas...

There is no "Greenman." That whole site's just a link-referral-sales B.S. entity, with obsolete, sketchy info stolen from other sites and not checked for accuracy. Their goal is to make $$$, not provide useful info to patients who need meds. That's what's got my goat; I have friends and relatives who depend on MMJ--and this whore could mislead them.

Rant off. Senor, here's your thread back, and again, I'm sorry. :hippy:
Its all good dh.

[superskunk1]

Beautiful plants senorx, I started my first grow and didn't invest 1/4 of what you did but as soon as my babies do well I will continue my grow similar to yours looks like it's working very well.

Congrats and I hope the yeild is great. Good luck

[senorx12562]

Thanx for stopping by. I should have some new pics up tonight or tomorrow.

[senorx12562]

As you can see, my girls have lost most of the chlorotic look that had me so worried. Some pretty tasty frosting developing too. Some of the main colas are starting to make the main stems sway quite a bit back and forth if bumped. I'm getting pretty pumped. What an emotional roller-coaster this pursuit is. Who'd 'a thunk it?:dance:

[Vancefish]

They look fabulous senor! :thumbsup:

Nice pics too. If you send any to a dispensary send me a PM, I'd like to try a little! :D

:hippy:

[DreadedHermie]

Beautiful! :thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

As you can see, my girls have lost most of the chlorotic look that had me so worried. Some pretty tasty frosting developing too. Some of the main colas are starting to make the main stems sway quite a bit back and forth if bumped. I'm getting pretty pumped. What an emotional roller-coaster this pursuit is. Who'd 'a thunk it?:dance:

Hey senorx first of all your plants look amazing. Im here all the time and looks like your right up there with the best of them for sure:thumbsup:. And emotional, i totally agree as i feel the same way while watching a plant grow, but these plants grow so fast that as they develop you can watch almost in slow motion.

Ok, i want to apologize for the interruption in your thread. I would never try to debate any growing information with one of the best growers here, thats for sure. DreadedHermie has taught me a lot with his in put iv simply read in his posts. I had never read what he posted from that site, or i would have never posted that pic. I feel very embarrassed over it, as i claim to be no pro like him but iv grown a few plants and enjoy helping others, as they have helped me. But using piss for a nute solution, had i read that we wouldn't be talking about it. I didn't buy into every method discussed, but i had no idea it was such a poor site. My BAD!:hippy:


Keep er green my friend :weedpoke:


:rasta:

[senorx12562]

I've always taken your posts as intended to be helpful, and in this instance cannot even imagine what you've said for which you feel compelled to apologize, or for which to be embarassed. Thank you for blessing my grow with your compliments, but I'm more of a newb than you are, and in this case have gotten lucky. Well, that and spending way too much $ on lights and utilities. Wait 'til summer and I'm frantically looking for advice on cooling my flowering room.:thumbsup:

[DJTANK61]

hey guys i nee help as well i have this 31 day old bag seed plant very short and bushy wanted to know what to do bout when to flower i only have in a stealth sub box bout 38 inch tall u can see pics of it in "social groups cfl growing"

[senorx12562]

hey guys i nee help as well i have this 31 day old bag seed plant very short and bushy wanted to know what to do bout when to flower i only have in a stealth sub box bout 38 inch tall u can see pics of it in "social groups cfl growing"
Typically, if the plant's most recent growth is alternately branched instead of the branches appearing opposite each other, it's ready to be flowered. Keep in mind that it could double in height after going to a 12/12 cycle. Good luck.

[LetsSeeYa]

I think you will be fine this summer. You have done your homework and what iv seen most people have some heat issues in summer. A cheap air conditioner in the room your taking air from should do it im sure. If im correct you are pulling your air from a separate room through your lights to outside? I don't remember, but if ya need an air conditioner id think you could get one now while winter is here cheaper, then waiting till summer when they mark them up:thumbsup:. Just an idea. Or, just run em at night.

My best grow was outside last year, but i wanted to let everyone sample what id grown and ended up giving way to much away and now im out. I haven't slept in two days:wtf:, now that was dumb:wtf:. As far as the indoor, i don't have a timer cuz im broke, so not sure when this grow will get flowered. Heck it might go outside if i cant do something soon. Plus i have the wrong cfl's as i need soft white bulbs to flower, but not sure that will happen. I was so pumped after the summer grow, i jumped into this before i was ready with the supplies needed, but missed the hobby. Heck, 99% of it is the growing part of it. Yeah i like the bud but promised myself id never buy it again after the summer grow, but watching it grow was amazing to me:thumbsup:. So i got ahead of myself, but live an learn i guess.
http://boards.cannabis.com/outdoor-growing/172214-so-i-use-chair-dosnt-mean-i-cant-grow.html This was my first real go at it:thumbsup: This with the reading and the help i got taught me so much, im much more comfortable with this summers grow:hippy:

Keep up the pics my man, they look great :weedpoke:

Well maybe not 99, but close, lol

:rasta:

[leadmagnet]

Nice work, Senorx. I have some experience with Nirvana WR from seed in soil under HPS and found the strain does have a tendency for some of the fan leaves to yellow and die off. Got me a little worried too when I first started working with this strain. Of course, maybe I too was doing something wrong, heheh. Some of your wr plants are branchier than what I've seen with mine though- otherwise very similar to the wr I've seen.

[driftersmokinjo]

looking mighty tasty:thumbsup:. i was wondering about your light setup. i noticed that you have your cool tubes all looped together and was wondering if that cooled the fixtures enough. it seems that after the air running through 2 or 3 lights anything after the first fixture would be getting progressively hotter air flow. i may be wrong but it was just a thought.:stoned:

[Vancefish]

looking mighty tasty:thumbsup:. i was wondering about your light setup. i noticed that you have your cool tubes all looped together and was wondering if that cooled the fixtures enough. it seems that after the air running through 2 or 3 lights anything after the first fixture would be getting progressively hotter air flow. i may be wrong but it was just a thought.:stoned:

Good question and one that is on my mind too. I'm about to buy two cool tubes and was thinking about running in series. What issues would the second light have? Yours is more then just 2. Do you have any issues with the heat on later lights in the series?

[senorx12562]

Good question and one that is on my mind too. I'm about to buy two cool tubes and was thinking about running in series. What issues would the second light have? Yours is more then just 2. Do you have any issues with the heat on later lights in the series?
I have 6 lights total, 3 per fan. 2 rows of 600w HPS-400w MH-600w HPS each. And yes, the cooling effect is drastically reduced by the time the airflow gets to the 3rd light in the row. For now, its ok, because the daytime high where I live is about 30 degrees on avg. this time of year, and my cooling air comes from outside. Summer, however, will be a different story. I have my photoperiod from 10 pm to 10 am already so as to avoid a problem come summer, but I have a suspicion that it may not be enough. I'm already looking into a/c for the summer. The reflectors I'm using are not airtight, so if you put your hands around the fixture where the lens meets the body of the reflector at the first light you can really feel the air exiting long before it reaches the next lamp, notwithstanding the natural heating the air would undergo anyway by passing through multiple lights. I imagine they are all the same to some extent. I'm not sure anyone would be willing to pay what it would cost to make them all airtight to maximize airflow at the end, given that the air is going to be heated anyway by the subsequent lights, so the improvement will be at the margins. This is my first grow, so any heat issues will come up in about 3-4 months. I have been worried about it since I started though. I also have a 750cfm exhaust fan on a thermostat set at 78 degrees, and it hasn't come on yet. Again, winter of course. The good thing is that all that air leaking out of my lights is just more fresh air for the babies!

[senorx12562]

I think you will be fine this summer. You have done your homework and what iv seen most people have some heat issues in summer. A cheap air conditioner in the room your taking air from should do it im sure. If im correct you are pulling your air from a separate room through your lights to outside? I don't remember, but if ya need an air conditioner id think you could get one now while winter is here cheaper, then waiting till summer when they mark them up:thumbsup:. Just an idea. Or, just run em at night.

My best grow was outside last year, but i wanted to let everyone sample what id grown and ended up giving way to much away and now im out. I haven't slept in two days:wtf:, now that was dumb:wtf:. As far as the indoor, i don't have a timer cuz im broke, so not sure when this grow will get flowered. Heck it might go outside if i cant do something soon. Plus i have the wrong cfl's as i need soft white bulbs to flower, but not sure that will happen. I was so pumped after the summer grow, i jumped into this before i was ready with the supplies needed, but missed the hobby. Heck, 99% of it is the growing part of it. Yeah i like the bud but promised myself id never buy it again after the summer grow, but watching it grow was amazing to me:thumbsup:. So i got ahead of myself, but live an learn i guess.
http://boards.cannabis.com/outdoor-growing/172214-so-i-use-chair-dosnt-mean-i-cant-grow.html This was my first real go at it:thumbsup: This with the reading and the help i got taught me so much, im much more comfortable with this summers grow:hippy:

Keep up the pics my man, they look great :weedpoke:

Well maybe not 99, but close, lol

:rasta:
I hope you're right about the summer, but 3200 watts of HID light creates a metric shitload of heat, and we get high temps of near 100 around here. As I said above, my photoperiod is overnight, and I hope that's sufficient, but I am skeptical. My cooling air comes directly from outside, which may change come summer depending on whether the air from my basement is cooler at 10pm than that from outside. It's all adjustment on the run, isn't it?

[senorx12562]

I think you will be fine this summer. You have done your homework and what iv seen most people have some heat issues in summer. A cheap air conditioner in the room your taking air from should do it im sure. If im correct you are pulling your air from a separate room through your lights to outside? I don't remember, but if ya need an air conditioner id think you could get one now while winter is here cheaper, then waiting till summer when they mark them up:thumbsup:. Just an idea. Or, just run em at night.

My best grow was outside last year, but i wanted to let everyone sample what id grown and ended up giving way to much away and now im out. I haven't slept in two days:wtf:, now that was dumb:wtf:. As far as the indoor, i don't have a timer cuz im broke, so not sure when this grow will get flowered. Heck it might go outside if i cant do something soon. Plus i have the wrong cfl's as i need soft white bulbs to flower, but not sure that will happen. I was so pumped after the summer grow, i jumped into this before i was ready with the supplies needed, but missed the hobby. Heck, 99% of it is the growing part of it. Yeah i like the bud but promised myself id never buy it again after the summer grow, but watching it grow was amazing to me:thumbsup:. So i got ahead of myself, but live an learn i guess.
http://boards.cannabis.com/outdoor-growing/172214-so-i-use-chair-dosnt-mean-i-cant-grow.html This was my first real go at it:thumbsup: This with the reading and the help i got taught me so much, im much more comfortable with this summers grow:hippy:

Keep up the pics my man, they look great :weedpoke:

Well maybe not 99, but close, lol

:rasta:
Sorry for the multiple post, but LSY, if I was back along the old Maumee, I'd stop by and blow a j or 2 w/ you. Sorry dude.

[LetsSeeYa]

Sorry for the multiple post, but LSY, if I was back along the old Maumee, I'd stop by and blow a j or 2 w/ you. Sorry dude.

Oh that would be cool. Iv lost touch with the growers i used to know. It would be cool to have people around with the same interests and hobbies.
Were you up near Toledo? Im pretty sure it runs that area. I had some cousin's up that way at one time.

Wow 100 degrees would be to much for me to handle, heck 80-90 is a bit too much. But i cant stand the air, so i just stay in front of a fan till the temps drop. Ya know there is a link in a guys sig. that deals with growing in extreme heat. Off the top of my head i cant remember, but i have an idea. Il find the link and get it to ya, he deals with the same types of issues:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Yea, I lived in Toledo in about 1968. I was in elementary school, but a lot of people still live in the same place they did 40 years ago. I wouldn't trade Colorado for Ohio though. Not a chance.

[LetsSeeYa]

Yea, I lived in Toledo in about 1968. I was in elementary school, but a lot of people still live in the same place they did 40 years ago. I wouldn't trade Colorado for Ohio though. Not a chance.

Oh i don't blame ya for that! BTW i found that link in RT'S sig dealing with the heat. I read it before and it might give you some good info, because he is one of the pro's for sure. RustyTrecholmes<sp:wtf:, but i think ya know who i mean. Hope it helps and thanks for the rep., they wouldn't let me return it cuz it said i had to spread it around more before giving again to ya:wtf:


http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/159651-dealing-heat-issues-desert.html

:rasta:

[growmanchw]

How are you cloning? If you give some specifics maybe we can help you out. Man, you really went all in on that setup didn't you? Wish I had the cash and space to just do that...Good luck!


go get some rhizotonic its £32.00 a liter over here i think thats aboiut $50.00 in america this is the shit u only need about five ml to about 2 litres of water soak you soil/soiless mix in it overnight before you put the clones into it also take the clones the day you soak the mix then leave the cut ends to soak overnight in water when taking the cuttings cut about an inch from a node and make sure that one or two nodes are beneath the soil/mix this is what will grow roots first dont overwater them and make sure there is not too much heat in the rooting room about 65 degrees celsius is good keep them under flurescant light on a 24 hour light cycle water when needed not to much if you overwater the clones will die i tend to put my clones in small pots then water from the top for the first week then put the water in the tray underneath and let them draw the water when needed also keep feed them rhizotonic with water once a week in 2 weeks your clones should start showin new growth signs the best place to look for new growth is at the nodes they usually shoe fresh greenery first the the growing tip will start to produce fresh growth then

also forgot to mention that when you put the one or two stes of nodes underneath the mix you should cut the growth off before you plant them also cut the leaf fingers in half as this slows transpiration and keep them in a clear humidity tent this way you should not have to water that often

also i have had better results taking clones after the first signs of flowers have started to show it takes a week or so to revert to veg agin but this way they tend to root more or less instantly especially when using rhizotonic

hope this helped man rate my reply if you could as im new here wnd would like to know if my aim of actually helping people is working thanks

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Any law against what I do on this forum would be impeding on my right to freedom and the pursuit of happiness. So unfortunately, I'm forced to play the role of a cannabis grower instead of actually participate in the hobby. (All pictures are pulled from the internet and knowledge is only portrayed as personal experience without ever having any actual experience

[senorx12562]

Thanks for the link, LSY.

[senorx12562]

go get some rhizotonic its £32.00 a liter over here i think thats aboiut $50.00 in america this is the shit u only need about five ml to about 2 litres of water soak you soil/soiless mix in it overnight before you put the clones into it also take the clones the day you soak the mix then leave the cut ends to soak overnight in water when taking the cuttings cut about an inch from a node and make sure that one or two nodes are beneath the soil/mix this is what will grow roots first dont overwater them and make sure there is not too much heat in the rooting room about 65 degrees celsius is good keep them under flurescant light on a 24 hour light cycle water when needed not to much if you overwater the clones will die i tend to put my clones in small pots then water from the top for the first week then put the water in the tray underneath and let them draw the water when needed also keep feed them rhizotonic with water once a week in 2 weeks your clones should start showin new growth signs the best place to look for new growth is at the nodes they usually shoe fresh greenery first the the growing tip will start to produce fresh growth then

also forgot to mention that when you put the one or two stes of nodes underneath the mix you should cut the growth off before you plant them also cut the leaf fingers in half as this slows transpiration and keep them in a clear humidity tent this way you should not have to water that often

also i have had better results taking clones after the first signs of flowers have started to show it takes a week or so to revert to veg agin but this way they tend to root more or less instantly especially when using rhizotonic

hope this helped man rate my reply if you could as im new here wnd would like to know if my aim of actually helping people is working thanks

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Any law against what I do on this forum would be impeding on my right to freedom and the pursuit of happiness. So unfortunately, I'm forced to play the role of a cannabis grower instead of actually participate in the hobby. (All pictures are pulled from the internet and knowledge is only portrayed as personal experience without ever having any actual experience
Thank you for your info. I greatly appreciate it.

[senorx12562]

Getting close now. Probably 1-2 weeks before harvest. Hopefully the yield will be good. If I can get 1 z per plant I'll be satisfied, 1.5- happy, 2-ecstatic.

My wife said something interesting last night when we made our nightly pilgrimage to the flowering room. She said something like "I think they like you better. I can tell they are girls, see how they try to look pretty for you so they get more attention?" She was not talking female in a biological sense, but a more anthropomorphic one, and she almost sounded jealous. It was a little weird. I just throw it out there without further comment. Enjoy the pics.:thumbsup:

[mainegrown]

looking very nice senor
:greenthumb:
-MG

[LetsSeeYa]

Wow Senor that looks amazing my friend. Do they all look like that? Looks like your set up and knowledge has paid off. BTW how are the clones coming along? Cant wait to see what ya get out of your grow.

Excellent grow:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[jtsik330]

Getting close now. Probably 1-2 weeks before harvest. Hopefully the yield will be good. If I can get 1 z per plant I'll be satisfied, 1.5- happy, 2-ecstatic.

My wife said something interesting last night when we made our nightly pilgrimage to the flowering room. She said something like "I think they like you better. I can tell they are girls, see how they try to look pretty for you so they get more attention?" She was not talking female in a biological sense, but a more anthropomorphic one, and she almost sounded jealous. It was a little weird. I just throw it out there without further comment. Enjoy the pics.:thumbsup:

My girl is jealous of my new babies that are now on the way, Just because i like to check on them as much as possible. Woman want you attention all day everyday!!!:cool:

[frostedwonder]

Hey that main cola pic at 46days is sweet and tasty looking! I like the name too pale pachyderm is unique.

[senorx12562]

Thank you for the kind words, LSY. They all look that way, although they aren't all that big, but a few are a little bigger, and I've got one plant with 2 mainstems and 2 colas that size. Last set of clones I took I should have about 80% that make it to flower, which is sufficient for my purposes, as I don't have veg room for more anyway. Thanx for stopping in.

[senorx12562]

Hey that main cola pic at 46days is sweet and tasty looking! I like the name too pale pachyderm is unique.
Thank you for visiting Frosted. They are actually just White Rhino, but I can be a smartass at times (I'm sure you're all saying "No, not you"?)

[LetsSeeYa]

Thank you for the kind words, LSY. They all look that way, although they aren't all that big, but a few are a little bigger, and I've got one plant with 2 mainstems and 2 colas that size. Last set of clones I took I should have about 80% that make it to flower, which is sufficient for my purposes, as I don't have veg room for more anyway. Thanx for stopping in.

Thats great cuz i know you were having a problem with the clones. I tried to make 2 in my life and i just cut them below a node with a set of small leaves if i can and put them in soil, water and grow. Made sure the leaves were under the soil and they both grew? One was a small branch that broke, so i thought i would experiment, it turned out to be a hermy. The second time, i had a shoot growing out of the bottom and cut it at a slant, stuck it with a couple leaves in the cup and filled with soil. Its in the log, still growing? But never tried large scale crop and if i did i would use clone rooting gel or something. Thought about it for outdoor grow, but not sure yet.

Let me know if you flower that mother, im still thinking the mother will drop leaves like the clones did, but just curious if it will or not:D

Keep er Green my friend:weedpoke::rasta:

[senorx12562]

Thats great cuz i know you were having a problem with the clones. I tried to make 2 in my life and i just cut them below a node with a set of small leaves if i can and put them in soil, water and grow. Made sure the leaves were under the soil and they both grew? One was a small branch that broke, so i thought i would experiment, it turned out to be a hermy. The second time, i had a shoot growing out of the bottom and cut it at a slant, stuck it with a couple leaves in the cup and filled with soil. Its in the log, still growing? But never tried large scale crop and if i did i would use clone rooting gel or something. Thought about it for outdoor grow, but not sure yet.

Let me know if you flower that mother, im still thinking the mother will drop leaves like the clones did, but just curious if it will or not:D

Keep er Green my friend:weedpoke::rasta:
That is still the plan, but the improvement since I repotted and added cal-mag to my feeding regimen makes me think that at worst it was a combination of problems. Now that mother's new growth only has three leaves, so I don't know if I should flower it or not, or maybe wait?

[headshake]

the 3-bladed leaves means your plant is stressed. you might want to wait before you decide to flower. i mean she will flower, but it could impact harvest. i've seen a plant go from throwing normal leaves to single-bladed basil looking leaves and back again. she's now in flower.

but that's just my $.02.


-shake

[frostedwonder]

Wow I was having a moment I didn't even think about White Rhino... or because as everyone knows they are apart of the five odd-toed ungulates family Rhinocerotidae. But they probably hang out with Pachyderms when they have good herb!

All my White Rhino's were male (3 out of 3) which sucked for me but I still have a few seeds, now I just need the space...ugh. I do think they are nice plants though even from just growing a male.

Oh you guys talking about three bladed leaf on your plants made me look back to photo's of my past grows and I had issues that showed that as well. Just didn't know what that meant. Learn something everyday on this site! Great Thread!

[senorx12562]

Wow I was having a moment I didn't even think about White Rhino... or because as everyone knows they are apart of the five odd-toed ungulates family Rhinocerotidae. But they probably hang out with Pachyderms when they have good herb!

All my White Rhino's were male (3 out of 3) which sucked for me but I still have a few seeds, now I just need the space...ugh. I do think they are nice plants though even from just growing a male.

Oh you guys talking about three bladed leaf on your plants made me look back to photo's of my past grows and I had issues that showed that as well. Just didn't know what that meant. Learn something everyday on this site! Great Thread!
Yeah, it was a test.lmao. I never said I was smart, just a smart-ass.

[frostedwonder]

Yup that you did, at least you warn...Although if you breed something cool please do call it White Pachyderm it would be cool to hear people talk about it in group settings. Save the White Pachyderm its running out!

[mainegrown]

naw its the PALE pachyderm.. and i would love to have some of that shit.. make people look real funny at you and when you get high it would be a right mouth full to say..
if you brbeed that strain make sure to send some this way and i will make it rule the north.. lol pale pachyderm love it the infamous PP pot or would that be PPP?? :greenthumb:
-MG

[frostedwonder]

I ment to say Pale no no I ment to say it...you don't know you ain't my underwear! lol

[senorx12562]

naw its the PALE pachyderm.. and i would love to have some of that shit.. make people look real funny at you and when you get high it would be a right mouth full to say..
if you brbeed that strain make sure to send some this way and i will make it rule the north.. lol pale pachyderm love it the infamous PP pot or would that be PPP?? :greenthumb:
-MG
I'm actually working on a little breeding experiment right now. I've got 2 males from an unidentified batch of seeds I received as a freebie for ordering from Amsterdam seeds. I took them out of my flowering room after I id'd them as males, and put them in my bay window to flower since it's the right time of year. All I know is what I can tell from looking, which is that it's an indica or indica dominant strain. (Pictured with 2 females in front and males in back.) I'm hoping to get some pollen and get some seeds for both the original strain, as the females are still in flower, and maybe to cross with a white rhino from my current batch of clones in soil, which are probably about 3-4 weeks out from flowering. Maybe that's what I'll call the cross. The males have started to flower and have some pretty nice pollen sacks developing. The breeding part of it is actually far more interesting to me than the growing part. I just don't see a practical way to meaningfully experiment and refine in the time and space available to me.

I'm thinking I'll pollinate one or two flowers at a time with a paintbrush or something so as to get some unseeded buds too. Anyone know about this procedure, or about "diluting" the pollen with flour, as I've read about? Help me out here oh wise ones.

[Phunnyman]

Hey Senor,

Excellent grow and effort, hope you enjoy the fruits of your labor. I've enjoyed your grow log and appreciate your sharing of information. Thanks for the inspiration. Best wishes to ya!!

G

[senorx12562]

Hey Senor,

Excellent grow and effort, hope you enjoy the fruits of your labor. I've enjoyed your grow log and appreciate your sharing of information. Thanks for the inspiration. Best wishes to ya!!

G
Thanx.

[mainegrown]

im not too knowledgeable about breeding but if you read the grow bible then you can know what i know..
if you want a copy let me know and i will post one up/send you one from a junk email
-MG

[senorx12562]

im not too knowledgeable about breeding but if you read the grow bible then you can know what i know..
if you want a copy let me know and i will post one up/send you one from a junk email
-MG
I'm not sure which book you are talking about, but I have the Cervantes book, "Marijuana Botany" by Clarke and one other. I am always up for anything I can learn from.

[redtails]

I'm not sure which book you are talking about, but I have the Cervantes book, "Marijuana Botany" by Clarke and one other. I am always up for anything I can learn from.

Check out this link:

GrowMoreWeed.com - Guides to growing cannabis weed marijuana (http://growmoreweed.com/)

[LetsSeeYa]

I'm actually working on a little breeding experiment right now. I've got 2 males from an unidentified batch of seeds I received as a freebie for ordering from Amsterdam seeds. I took them out of my flowering room after I id'd them as males, and put them in my bay window to flower since it's the right time of year. All I know is what I can tell from looking, which is that it's an indica or indica dominant strain. (Pictured with 2 females in front and males in back.) I'm hoping to get some pollen and get some seeds for both the original strain, as the females are still in flower, and maybe to cross with a white rhino from my current batch of clones in soil, which are probably about 3-4 weeks out from flowering. Maybe that's what I'll call the cross. The males have started to flower and have some pretty nice pollen sacks developing. The breeding part of it is actually far more interesting to me than the growing part. I just don't see a practical way to meaningfully experiment and refine in the time and space available to me.

I'm thinking I'll pollinate one or two flowers at a time with a paintbrush or something so as to get some unseeded buds too. Anyone know about this procedure, or about "diluting" the pollen with flour, as I've read about? Help me out here oh wise ones.

Well Senor i know if you keep those plant togther like that, it will seed your whole female. A small breeze will put pollen all over those females being that close. Iv never made seeds yet, but from reading most people keep a male in a different room. After the plant flowers iv read people put a wet paper sack around a branch and rattle it a bit, for the pollen to fall off and attach itself to the bag. Then they take the bag to the female after it has dried out and put it around a lower branch of there female and rattle it again to pollinate that branch only. Then carfully take the bag away from your girls, because that pollen travels easy and fast.:wtf:Also, if the pollen is kept wet, it wont leave the plant, but thats something you need to keep up on.

But iv never done this. But if i did, thats what i would do. I am sure someone will chime in w/ more experience making seeds. But i know if you let those plants become to good of friends the female will be filled with seeds. If i understood correctlly:D

Good luck my friend:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[Vancefish]

I've read an article about pollenation about a month ago.

The writer of the article said he kept a male when he wanted to breed. He made it quite clear that absolutly NO pollen was aloud any where near his grow room. Thus he kept the male in a box on the other end of his house. Using hepa filters on all air exits. He also made it quite clear that he never went near a male before he tended the females and always showered and changed clothes after dealing with the males.

When the males would flower. He would take a small jar(like a pomento jar) and tap each open male flower into the jar to collect pollen. Then he'd cut back or distroy the male. He kept the pollen in the fridge or freezer saying it would last five months.

I'm pretty sure he added a small amount of water to the pollen and then barely dabbed a tiny bit on specific flowers he wanted to pollenate AFTER moving said plant to the (previously) male box.

Again the male pollen never entered the flowering room, and the pollenated female was removed before pollenation to avoid any chance of seeds in the current crop.

So, I have to agree with LetsSeeYa. If those male flowers open anywhere near your girls it's gonna be SEED CITY.

Otherwise looks great! :thumbsup:

[senorx12562]

Yeah, that's why I moved both males to a different place in my house. The picture was taken before I was sure that they were males. I as well intend to only mess with the males after I'm done in my flower room for the day, and to bathe and change in between. Once I get a little pollen, I will stash it in the fridge in a light-proof container until I'm ready to go. I also don't think I will ever try to pollinate anywhere near my flower room. Females will be moved somewhere else for that procedure. I'm kind of looking forward to the process actually. For me it is kind of like a science experiment, and I dig that kind of stuff.

[LetsSeeYa]

Yeah, that's why I moved both males to a different place in my house. The picture was taken before I was sure that they were males. I as well intend to only mess with the males after I'm done in my flower room for the day, and to bathe and change in between. Once I get a little pollen, I will stash it in the fridge in a light-proof container until I'm ready to go. I also don't think I will ever try to pollinate anywhere near my flower room. Females will be moved somewhere else for that procedure. I'm kind of looking forward to the process actually. For me it is kind of like a science experiment, and I dig that kind of stuff.

Yeah id bet it would be interesting too. Iv heard the pollen lasts a long time, stored like you've said. I read this guy keeps clones in his crisper for up to six months. My big outdoor plant grew a seed, but i didn't know what it was until later. I think my hermy got it just a bit. I found 2 seeds:thumbsup:

It would be interesting to intentionally breed something you like into a perfect strain you enjoy the best.


:rasta:

[leadmagnet]

Yeah, that's why I moved both males to a different place in my house. The picture was taken before I was sure that they were males. I as well intend to only mess with the males after I'm done in my flower room for the day, and to bathe and change in between. Once I get a little pollen, I will stash it in the fridge in a light-proof container until I'm ready to go. I also don't think I will ever try to pollinate anywhere near my flower room. Females will be moved somewhere else for that procedure. I'm kind of looking forward to the process actually. For me it is kind of like a science experiment, and I dig that kind of stuff.

If I'm not lookin to produce seeds, I take NO chances with male plants. None allowed on the premises and I'd apply the rule to within three blocks of my grow if I could.

[senorx12562]

If I'm not lookin to produce seeds, I take NO chances with male plants. None allowed on the premises and I'd apply the rule to within three blocks of my grow if I could.
But I am looking to produce seeds. That's kind of the point.

[mainegrown]

hey from what i can tell you DONT WANT TO WET THE POLLEN.
wetting pollen makes it inert and is one of the ways that you can help stop pollination from a hermie..
just what i have read
~MG

[senorx12562]

hey from what i can tell you DONT WANT TO WET THE POLLEN.
wetting pollen makes it inert and is one of the ways that you can help stop pollination from a hermie..
just what i have read
~MG
I think wetting the pollen stops it from flying around rather than making it unable to fertilize the female. The water causes transportation problems rather than fertilization problems. If we provide the transportation, the pollen still works. In fact, I'll bet the advice to wet it is to make it easier to get it only where you want it, its probably kind of "flyaway" otherwise, since it's designed by evolution to travel by wind.

[mainegrown]

that would make sense (i may have been :stoned: when i read that :greenthumb:).. give it a try then
and make sure you let me know if it works
~MG

[DreadedHermie]

wetting pollen makes it inert

That's what Cervantes sez.

However, since he is to horticulture what Geraldo Rivera is to investigative journalism, I'd scout up further confirmation.

I've always thought that, too, though.

Is there a seminar you could go to and ask? :D

[senorx12562]

That's what Cervantes sez.

However, since he is to horticulture what Geraldo Rivera is to investigative journalism, I'd scout up further confirmation.

I've always thought that, too, though.

Is there a seminar you could go to and ask? :D
Hmmmm......Maybe.

[headshake]

i know aquatic plants release their pollen directly into the water and it floats on top of it. this is called hydrophily. i'm not sure about terra firma plants though.

i happen to have some pollen at the house, perhaps it's time for an experiment?

-shake

[mainegrown]

i would imagine an experiment would answer this real quick..
time for a new thread?
i would like to hear in detail what you do and how you do it..
scientific method maybe??
:twocents: only..
~MG

[senorx12562]

As you all probably know, it's been cold as shit lately, night before last set a new record of 16 below. I've noticed some interesting effects. Among them, my ductwork carrying air from outside to cool my lights froze pretty good, and the combination of the cool temps in my flower room (down to 58 degrees at night) and the impending maturity of the girls caused some purpling to start. Check it out. I guess now it's purple rhino.

Temps are supposed to start rising, so I can't see any harm. Hope you're all having a great day (well most of you).

[headshake]

i would imagine an experiment would answer this real quick..
time for a new thread?
i would like to hear in detail what you do and how you do it..
scientific method maybe??
:twocents: only..
~MG

i'll have to come up with something. scientific method for sure.

-shake

[mainegrown]

As you all probably know, it's been cold as shit lately, night before last set a new record of 16 below. I've noticed some interesting effects. Among them, my ductwork carrying air from outside to cool my lights froze pretty good, and the combination of the cool temps in my flower room (down to 58 degrees at night) and the impending maturity of the girls caused some purpling to start. Check it out. I guess now it's purple rhino.

guess it wont be PP from this then after all :(

Temps are supposed to start rising, so I can't see any harm. Hope you're all having a great day (well most of you).


i was really hoping there man..
and shake just make sure im there for your lil experiment man

peace ya'll im off to the land of dreams

~MG

[senorx12562]

i was really hoping there man..
and shake just make sure im there for your lil experiment man

peace ya'll im off to the land of dreams

~MG

This grow was not my plan anyway. Next one though (already about 2 weeks in soil vegging) I get out my paint brush.

[frostedwonder]

Looking nice from here.. I always worried about the swing of temps more then the ave temp stressing out the ladies. Next cab I build will be Geothermal....ok so maybe not but I feel ya on being cold as shit! -19 without windchill here!

[mainegrown]

man now im thinking im in the tropics.. unless you are talking in degrees C then we about the same.. its close to -15 C here..
~MG

[senorx12562]

man now im thinking im in the tropics.. unless you are talking in degrees C then we about the same.. its close to -15 C here..
~MG
I don't know about frosted, but I'm talking fahrenheit, so you are in the tropics, although by Sunday we're supposed to have a high around 50, also F thankfully, or I'd have big problems and they would have nothing to do with plants.

[mainegrown]

ouch that is cold man.. i know what you are talking about..
last year the coldest place on earth (outside the polar caps) was about 50 miles from where i am now..

~MG

[monny10]

Its cold as fuck here too Senor! my nightime temps are 10 degrees celcius in the Cab....

P.s.... Those BUDS in the pictures above look Fuckin HUGE man!!

Is it just the picture? how big are they?

[headshake]

we've been getting super cold temps in texas too. this morning when i came to the 'net cafe, it was 16 outside. that's damn cold for texas!

-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

I heard it snowed in Florida today, so you can expect a raise in fresh veggies and fruits:wtf:, about 19 degress here.

:rasta:

[mainegrown]

i know it is terrible.. and wanna know the great part?? it was almost up to freezing heree.. rofl :D

~MG

[senorx12562]

Its cold as fuck here too Senor! my nightime temps are 10 degrees celcius in the Cab....

P.s.... Those BUDS in the pictures above look Fuckin HUGE man!!

Is it just the picture? how big are they?

This big. The main cola is probably 10-12 inches long.

[mainegrown]

oops..
i changed my thread view..
lookin good man

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[senorx12562]

Well, I chickened out. Murdered the males I was going to get pollen from. Got a little paranoid (too much White Russian, maybe?) and decided the potential benefits were outweighed by the risk of inadvertent pollination, which I cannot afford right now. Without some method of sequestration it was just too risky, especially since I don't yet know about the quality of the genetics since none have finished. I still have 14 more of the seeds though. I guess I got a little ahead of myself. Oh well. At least no more bad dreams about pollen wafting into my flowering room.:cool:

[frostedwonder]

Yum I love the white russian! I had to kill all my White Rhino's that were male and I kept on thinking about trying to grow them out for pollen but I couldn't find room to do it. At least you have more seeds to try.

[headshake]

good call senor. i just ran into that exact problem.

-shake

[senorx12562]

good call senor. i just ran into that exact problem.

-shake
Seeded now are we?

[headshake]

yeah, and pissed off!

-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

Well, I chickened out. Murdered the males I was going to get pollen from. Got a little paranoid (too much White Russian, maybe?) and decided the potential benefits were outweighed by the risk of inadvertent pollination, which I cannot afford right now. Without some method of sequestration it was just too risky, especially since I don't yet know about the quality of the genetics since none have finished. I still have 14 more of the seeds though. I guess I got a little ahead of myself. Oh well. At least no more bad dreams about pollen wafting into my flowering room.:cool:

Well this only gives you time for a good plan of action IMO:thumbsup:. And with more beans you have an opportunity to choose the best of our crop to use for breeding.

I read your post about the seminar you went too. I thought it was interesting, just something that would never happen here:( Here the lobby groups, from what i understand arnt getting along, so the guy that helped Mich. get organized, funded and into law, wouldn't help in Ohio. So, thats just what iv read, i never heard the issues as to their differences. To me we all have the common interest here so i believe leadership must be the problem. To many peckers in one porn IMO:wtf:

:weedpoke: keeper green man::rasta:

[mainegrown]

yeah, and pissed off!

hey i feel ya bro.. my whole crop is like that.. and i only have bag seed so i dont even get to keep a bunch of nice seeds :(

-shake


Well this only gives you time for a good plan of action IMO:thumbsup:. And with more beans you have an opportunity to choose the best of our crop to use for breeding.

I read your post about the seminar you went too. I thought it was interesting, just something that would never happen here:( Here the lobby groups, from what i understand arnt getting along, so the guy that helped Mich. get organized, funded and into law, wouldn't help in Ohio. So, thats just what iv read, i never heard the issues as to their differences. To me we all have the common interest here so i believe leadership must be the problem. To many peckers in one porn IMO:wtf:
always the case in politics IMO.. :wtf:

:weedpoke: keeper green man::rasta:


looking good senorX..

~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé

[senorx12562]

Well this only gives you time for a good plan of action IMO:thumbsup:. And with more beans you have an opportunity to choose the best of our crop to use for breeding.

I read your post about the seminar you went too. I thought it was interesting, just something that would never happen here:( Here the lobby groups, from what i understand arnt getting along, so the guy that helped Mich. get organized, funded and into law, wouldn't help in Ohio. So, thats just what iv read, i never heard the issues as to their differences. To me we all have the common interest here so i believe leadership must be the problem. To many peckers in one porn IMO:wtf:

:weedpoke: keeper green man::rasta:
I'm way too busy taking care of my family to sacrifice myself on the altar of justice re: marijuana, and most potential leaders feel the same way.

[senorx12562]

Thanks mg. Any day now. I'm tryin' not to get impatient. Maybe I'll post some more pics tomorrow, since its 8 weeks in flower.

[LetsSeeYa]

Thanks mg. Any day now. I'm tryin' not to get impatient. Maybe I'll post some more pics tomorrow, since its 8 weeks in flower.

Bet there looking nice now:thumbsup:, how long you think you got till harvest? Il bet they look tempting to cut-dry-smoke:S5:


:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Bet there looking nice now:thumbsup:, how long you think you got till harvest? Il bet they look tempting to cut-dry-smoke:S5:


:rasta:
I started the harvest process today. Exactly 8 weeks in flower. I saw enough cloudy trichomes that it felt like the time. I decided to do a quick trim while the plants are still in pots in the flower room. I took all the leaves the stems of which I could reach with my pruning scissors, and I'm now going to give them 24 hours of darkness, although I'll have to run in quick tonight to pull out those two indicas I have in flower and put them in my veg room for their 12 hours of light. Then tomorrow am I will pull them all out, replace the indicas, seal it up, finish trimming, and hang it all up to dry. I hung clothesline in my drying room today. Drying will take 4-7 days, then curing another 10-14 (probably, never done it before). It's a little quicker here than elsewhere with the semi-arid climate and all. Mold is not as much of a concern either, thankfully. I'll post some pictures of the naked plants (pot porn?) sometime. Have a good day, LSY!

[LetsSeeYa]

I started the harvest process today. Exactly 8 weeks in flower. I saw enough cloudy trichomes that it felt like the time. I decided to do a quick trim while the plants are still in pots in the flower room. I took all the leaves the stems of which I could reach with my pruning scissors, and I'm now going to give them 24 hours of darkness, although I'll have to run in quick tonight to pull out those two indicas I have in flower and put them in my veg room for their 12 hours of light. Then tomorrow am I will pull them all out, replace the indicas, seal it up, finish trimming, and hang it all up to dry. I hung clothesline in my drying room today. Drying will take 4-7 days, then curing another 10-14 (probably, never done it before). It's a little quicker here than elsewhere with the semi-arid climate and all. Mold is not as much of a concern either, thankfully. I'll post some pictures of the naked plants (pot porn?) sometime. Have a good day, LSY!

Heck, sounds like ya gotta plan senor:thumbsup:. I put mine in a paper bag after 2-3 days of hanging. I think it helped the taste a bit. Although it was still pretty strong for sure. I gave my friend about 3-1/4s and he put it in a big zip-lock for about a month and it tasted way better then what i had. But i really wasn't sure what i was doing. I know il wait longer to put it in jars, because i was keeping them open 4 times a day, but ended up in the hospital and got some mold. I should have flushed it 2x as much as i did. But after looking at them one day, i found 2 of them just laying on the ground. Im not sure if the wind got them, as we had a bad storm, or deer/rabbits. So i took everything, to prevent something eating them all up. I would have been really mad, if that had happen. One was only about 14'', but was budded from the bottom all they way up the stem. After what ever knocked it over, it ate the buds from the bottom to the middle of the plant, i was pissed, cuz it was small but mighty. I then hoped what ever ate it was all paranoid and running around amuck:D

Il be watching my friend:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Heck, sounds like ya gotta plan senor:thumbsup:. I put mine in a paper bag after 2-3 days of hanging. I think it helped the taste a bit. Although it was still pretty strong for sure. I gave my friend about 3-1/4s and he put it in a big zip-lock for about a month and it tasted way better then what i had. But i really wasn't sure what i was doing. I know il wait longer to put it in jars, because i was keeping them open 4 times a day, but ended up in the hospital and got some mold. I should have flushed it 2x as much as i did. But after looking at them one day, i found 2 of them just laying on the ground. Im not sure if the wind got them, as we had a bad storm, or deer/rabbits. So i took everything, to prevent something eating them all up. I would have been really mad, if that had happen. One was only about 14'', but was budded from the bottom all they way up the stem. After what ever knocked it over, it ate the buds from the bottom to the middle of the plant, i was pissed, cuz it was small but mighty. I then hoped what ever ate it was all paranoid and running around amuck:D

Il be watching my friend:rasta:
When sufficiently dry, I have some tupperware-type containers to put the buds in which can be "burped" to control the drying rate. The mental image of the paranoid, too-high wildlife had me roflmao. Thanks.

[headshake]

I then hoped what ever ate it was all paranoid and running around amuck:D


ROTFLMAO!!!!

that shit really made me laugh out loud. the people in the coffee shop were all looking at me crazy!


can't wait to see pr0n senor!


-shake

[senorx12562]

Before and after. The initial trim took about 3 hours yesterday, then about 4 hours to hanging. (The ones on the right show what they looked like before the initial trim, as I couldn't get to all of them). I'm really too old for this shit, but I guess I shouldn't complain. Better a sore back than living in Haiti. Funny how the minute one starts feeling sorry for oneself, something comes along to remind of how good we have it. I'll post some pics of some buds when dry in a couple of days.:dance:

[jakester]

Great looking harvest! Congrats!

[leadmagnet]

But I am looking to produce seeds. That's kind of the point.

Understood. But it looks like you were also cultivating plants you'd like to keep unpollinated; my point being there is going to be some risk of contamination involved and were you really sure you wanted to take that risk.

Anyways, looks like things worked out well.

[headshake]

congrats on the harvest senor! i hope there's lots of it that knocks your socks off!

-shake

[leadmagnet]

I'm still a little puzzled about your wr being as branchy as they were. Who's were they if you don't mind my asking?

[LetsSeeYa]

Before and after. The initial trim took about 3 hours yesterday, then about 4 hours to hanging. (The ones on the right show what they looked like before the initial trim, as I couldn't get to all of them). I'm really too old for this shit, but I guess I shouldn't complain. Better a sore back than living in Haiti. Funny how the minute one starts feeling sorry for oneself, something comes along to remind of how good we have it. I'll post some pics of some buds when dry in a couple of days.:dance:

Wow senor your pics look awesome my man:thumbsup: There was a middle point which you didn't post to many pics, so i sorta lost track of how they were doing. But all i can say is great grow, as those buds are huge.

My question is how the heck are you going to top this grow. I think we all strive for a better 2nd, 3rd go-arounds. Those buds are so flipping huge:thumbsup:. No one could ever tell that it was your first grow, not a chance. I opened the links to get a closer look and wow senor you couldn't have got a better grow. You really did your homework no bout. If i were you id be really proud, cuz i know you gave them plenty of TLC:thumbsup: Plus you had plenty of know how, as you can really tell:hippy:

Il be glued in for your next endeavor for sure my friend. It will inspire lots of people for sure:jointsmile:

:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Wow senor your pics look awesome my man:thumbsup: There was a middle point which you didn't post to many pics, so i sorta lost track of how they were doing. But all i can say is great grow, as those buds are huge.

My question is how the heck are you going to top this grow. I think we all strive for a better 2nd, 3rd go-arounds. Those buds are so flipping huge:thumbsup:. No one could ever tell that it was your first grow, not a chance. I opened the links to get a closer look and wow senor you couldn't have got a better grow. You really did your homework no bout. If i were you id be really proud, cuz i know you gave them plenty of TLC:thumbsup: Plus you had plenty of know how, as you can really tell:hippy:

Il be glued in for your next endeavor for sure my friend. It will inspire lots of people for sure:jointsmile:

:rasta:
Thanks again for the kind words, LSY. Since I don't know yet what my yield will be, whether it would be reasonable to have higher expectations next time or not remains unknown. Starting with larger containers (now 3 gal. instead of 7 liters before) I hope will avoid the mid-flower stress these babies went through. I think adding the CalMag to my feeding regimen from the beginning will also help. I haven't even smoked any yet, so don't even know about quality although all signs are positive.

And yeah, I suppose I am proud of myself. I put much time into study and research to prepare myself for this, but I also was not up against some of the obstacles faced by others, including you and many others who gave advice here on canncom. I invested much $ and space in my house to this pursuit that others don't have available to them, so I had some advantages too. I've decided that there are two keys for me; lots of light ( with 4000 watts of light, I should get some results,right)?, and checking my plants A LOT. Not a day went by that I didn't check them closely at least twice. Bad things can happen very fast, and if you don't notice something for 3-4 days it can be too late. Just like when yours went a-visitin', right? Anyway, I still have lots to learn, but it's still fun too, so that makes it easier. Thanx again.

[LetsSeeYa]

Thanks again for the kind words, LSY. Since I don't know yet what my yield will be, whether it would be reasonable to have higher expectations next time or not remains unknown. Starting with larger containers (now 3 gal. instead of 7 liters before) I hope will avoid the mid-flower stress these babies went through. I think adding the CalMag to my feeding regimen from the beginning will also help. I haven't even smoked any yet, so don't even know about quality although all signs are positive.

And yeah, I suppose I am proud of myself. I put much time into study and research to prepare myself for this, but I also was not up against some of the obstacles faced by others, including you and many others who gave advice here on canncom. I invested much $ and space in my house to this pursuit that others don't have available to them, so I had some advantages too. I've decided that there are two keys for me; lots of light ( with 4000 watts of light, I should get some results,right)?, and checking my plants A LOT. Not a day went by that I didn't check them closely at least twice. Bad things can happen very fast, and if you don't notice something for 3-4 days it can be too late. Just like when yours went a-visitin', right? Anyway, I still have lots to learn, but it's still fun too, so that makes it easier. Thanx again.

Well you put in the learning part and do have a very nice set-up, so it shouldn't be a surprise at your harvest. I seen a lot of people that uses the Cal Mag and never heard problem with it, but iv never seen it, nor do i know exactly what it does/helps. I really think the bigger pots of course will help too. Thats just more room. Iv read that the above growth to the roots, works out to be 50/50, above the soil and below it. Im really not sure about this, but it makes sense to me. With a bigger root foundation, it would seem the bigger the plant would grow. Also, you can use the pics to compare this grow with the next to get an idea as to growth speed. Just a thought.

And fun, oh man i was bummed when my summer grow ended. It was my reason to get out of bed for me, as i live with less then desirable people. So i would think of anything i could do with my plants, because it was so much fun. After growing bonsai for 15 years, which is very slow growing, i fell in luv growing weed. It develops so fast, each day you can see a difference. Thats why i started an indoor before i had the basic equipment to do so.

I will have pics soon. I see buds starting to get bigger everyday, but i have at least a month if not more to go. But thats ok, as the problem iv had, if i could get like a half oz, it would be a good grow for me. Next year il be prepared and il be able to veg my outdoor plants to at least a foot before planting them. The Edna im growing is doing very well and more sites then the skunk/haze ones. Plus i have some seeds that iv not tried yet, which were made to grow fast. Here are the genetics, Nirvana Special x Top44)x WW) x ((Thai Haze x Skunk#1) x Lr2), this will be some good stuff im thinking. With the WW and Lr2 and other strains i cant wait till spring as im sure you cant wait to get your clones vegged and ready to go.

Catcha later my friend:rasta:

[senorx12562]

I'm still a little puzzled about your wr being as branchy as they were. Who's were they if you don't mind my asking?
Supposedly Greenhouse, but you know how that goes. I received clones from a friend, and he started with clones too, so who really knows. The bud pictures from Day 47 or whatever posted earlier in this thread look EXACTLY like the bud pictures of GH's White Rhino in Rosenthal's Big Book of Buds Vol. 3., so maybe it is really what I was told. Also keep in mind that I didn't really prune at all except to remove dead/dying leaves.

Ultimately, unless you order the seeds yourself, you have no idea, and even then I'm not so sure. Ultimately, I think environment trumps genetics in the phenotype equation. Genetics just set the parameters.

[senorx12562]

Well you put in the learning part and do have a very nice set-up, so it shouldn't be a surprise at your harvest. I seen a lot of people that uses the Cal Mag and never heard problem with it, but iv never seen it, nor do i know exactly what it does/helps. I really think the bigger pots of course will help too. Thats just more room. Iv read that the above growth to the roots, works out to be 50/50, above the soil and below it. Im really not sure about this, but it makes sense to me. With a bigger root foundation, it would seem the bigger the plant would grow. Also, you can use the pics to compare this grow with the next to get an idea as to growth speed. Just a thought.

And fun, oh man i was bummed when my summer grow ended. It was my reason to get out of bed for me, as i live with less then desirable people. So i would think of anything i could do with my plants, because it was so much fun. After growing bonsai for 15 years, which is very slow growing, i fell in luv growing weed. It develops so fast, each day you can see a difference. Thats why i started an indoor before i had the basic equipment to do so.

I will have pics soon. I see buds starting to get bigger everyday, but i have at least a month if not more to go. But thats ok, as the problem iv had, if i could get like a half oz, it would be a good grow for me. Next year il be prepared and il be able to veg my outdoor plants to at least a foot before planting them. The Edna im growing is doing very well and more sites then the skunk/haze ones. Plus i have some seeds that iv not tried yet, which were made to grow fast. Here are the genetics, Nirvana Special x Top44)x WW) x ((Thai Haze x Skunk#1) x Lr2), this will be some good stuff im thinking. With the WW and Lr2 and other strains i cant wait till spring as im sure you cant wait to get your clones vegged and ready to go.

Catcha later my friend:rasta:
I live with an undesirable person too, but luckily my wife doesn't frequent this site. (Thanks to Henny Youngman). From watching your grow, I think your plants just need more light. I know you're not in a position to give more, but I think that's the only reason they've been so slow. We do the best we can with what we got. All we really do is keep the plants healthy, and yours look healthy. I hope you get a good return. If we figured out who got more quantity/dollar, you might be surprised who came out on top.

[LetsSeeYa]

I live with an undesirable person too, but luckily my wife doesn't frequent this site. (Thanks to Henny Youngman). From watching your grow, I think your plants just need more light. I know you're not in a position to give more, but I think that's the only reason they've been so slow. We do the best we can with what we got. All we really do is keep the plants healthy, and yours look healthy. I hope you get a good return. If we figured out who got more quantity/dollar, you might be surprised who came out on top.

Well the freak i live with doesnt visit this site either, which of course is good. I am to get a late x-mas gift this week and my sister had told my dad there was cash involved:thumbsup:. So after i get these bills im behind on, i might be able to get one more clamp light, which then would be enough to get me through. Of the two clamp lights, i bought a large one, which will not fit the y splitters and the hood cant be taken off, like the smaller one. The small one fits 4 bulbs, but the big one only 2 light bulbs. So $7.99 for the light and $5.00, if i get a different k rating for bulbs would be enough i think. I have enough bulbs to fit the bigger light, but they just will not fit the splitters. You can tell in some pics at the light difference there is in the two. Who knew, i thought the bigger would fit the splitters better, but i was wrong. But i have a $300.00 vet bill and grooming i need to take care of, as my dog means more to me then the grow. He's a great dog!:rasta:

[headshake]

S
Ultimately, I think environment trumps genetics in the phenotype equation. Genetics just set the parameters.

environment is what brings out all of the phenos!

-shake

[senorx12562]

Other than a week or two of curing, all is finished. I ended up with 541 grams, or 33.8 grams per plant. I'm somewhere between satisfied and happy I suppose. Thank you all for following along, and I hope your day is a good one.

[twitch]

looks great man, i hope mines turns out like that
great job

[LetsSeeYa]

Other than a week or two of curing, all is finished. I ended up with 541 grams, or 33.8 grams per plant. I'm somewhere between satisfied and happy I suppose. Thank you all for following along, and I hope your day is a good one.

Sounds great Senorx, im glad your happy with the end result:hippy: I know you put the work in gaining the knowledge and the hard work that came with the hobby:thumbsup: Looks mighty fine too:clap:

Il be watching for your next endeavor my friend:rasta:

[frostedwonder]

Hey nice results! Thanks for sharing the experience, the last bud pic makes my mouth water....yum

[lampost]

Other than a week or two of curing, all is finished. I ended up with 541 grams, or 33.8 grams per plant. I'm somewhere between satisfied and happy I suppose. Thank you all for following along, and I hope your day is a good one.

Nice Senor! Those look like some kill buds! Are you satisfied with the smoke? I guess it's still curing maybe :)

Just curious to help me estimate.... how long did you veg your clones once rooted and what light setup in your flowering room? Man, seeing your harvesting/drying pics I thought that was at least 2 elbows!! But I hope I can do that well... looks awesome!

Peace,LP

[senorx12562]

Nice Senor! Those look like some kill buds! Are you satisfied with the smoke? I guess it's still curing maybe :)

Just curious to help me estimate.... how long did you veg your clones once rooted and what light setup in your flowering room? Man, seeing your harvesting/drying pics I thought that was at least 2 elbows!! But I hope I can do that well... looks awesome!

Peace,LP
They vegged for about 7 weeks and were 18-24 inches tall going into flower. Everyone who has smoked it has said it was as good as or better than any other indica dominant they have smoked. It is very powerful but comes on mellow, and takes 10-15 minutes to really hit you. The taste is wonderful, especially vaped. My flower room has 4 600w HPS and 2 400w MH. I start them in flower half under the MH for the last growth, then ended with 4 plants under each 600w HPS.

Ironically, I smoked it once and vaped it once, and then was offered a job that tests, so that's it for me smoking for a while. Sucks, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Thanks for stopping in LP.

[lampost]

They vegged for about 7 weeks and were 18-24 inches tall going into flower. Everyone who has smoked it has said it was as good as or better than any other indica dominant they have smoked. It is very powerful but comes on mellow, and takes 10-15 minutes to really hit you. The taste is wonderful, especially vaped. My flower room has 4 600w HPS and 2 400w MH. I start them in flower half under the MH for the last growth, then ended with 4 plants under each 600w HPS.

Ironically, I smoked it once and vaped it once, and then was offered a job that tests, so that's it for me smoking for a while. Sucks, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Thanks for stopping in LP.

Nice! Wow, that's a nice setup! I need to reduce my estimate... don't think I'll come close to your yield! Er... wait was that off of just 4 plants?! Or was that like 12-16?

Good luck on the job! I'm in the same boat... need to find some work. Wasn't the smartest idea I had to quit my job.

Great info in the drug testing forum here! Do you know what kind of test you'll have? Check out Quick Fix!! It's worked for me 3-4 times. It's a bit nerve-racking to use at first, but pretty foolproof.

[senorx12562]

Nice! Wow, that's a nice setup! I need to reduce my estimate... don't think I'll come close to your yield! Er... wait was that off of just 4 plants?! Or was that like 12-16?

Good luck on the job! I'm in the same boat... need to find some work. Wasn't the smartest idea I had to quit my job.

Great info in the drug testing forum here! Do you know what kind of test you'll have? Check out Quick Fix!! It's worked for me 3-4 times. It's a bit nerve-racking to use at first, but pretty foolproof.
16 plants, so about 33 grams per. I only know that it's a urine test, not hair or saliva. The pre-employment test will be 21 days after last usage, and I never smoked all that much anyway (like 4-5 hits/day 5days/week MAX, and usually less), so I'm probably ok. I'll probably do some dilution with vitamin/creatine supplementation just to be sure on the day of the test. As for the random screenings, I'll just quit smoking.

What worries me more is the effect on my health of my substitute means of attaining an altered state of consciousness, scotch. It's kind of a stupid policy actually. Who would you rather employ, a person who smoked almost any amount of cannabis the night before work, or someone who drank half a bottle of scotch the night before? I'd probably be more effective at work if I did 5-6 hits in the parking lot just before going in than the day after drinking 10 ozs of hard liquor. Not my call though, I just have to feed my family.

[wyldeganja30]

hell yeah thats some dank bud. good luck on harvest

[senorx12562]

hell yeah thats some dank bud. good luck on harvest
I appreciate your good wishes, but if you look at the top of this same page, you'll see that harvest took place 2 weeks ago. Thank you again though, and I guess I did have good luck, so notwithstanding the tear in the space-time continuum you have caused, I owe it all to you:wtf: