My Indoor Grow,

[LetsSeeYa]

Well here i go with my first indoor grow. I dont have everything in place yet but i have two plants/seedling growing. I am only under two 26w CFL's. My plan changed as i found some unused space. I will try to get clones to grow in this shelf which needs enclosed first. Also, a few materials short to do both at the same time.

Yes i know what light im currently using isn't enough, but i will be using 8
23w CFL's, which will equal 14,000 lumen's. My 65w bulb blew as soon as he turned it on and hell iv been waiting for someone to wire it for two years:wtf:, at the same time the bulb had a very small crack in it, so i cant blame him. I think it will work. I took a few pics and just wanted to get the thread started. So, there is work in progress. The first thing i need to do is get all my lights going and make use of this space properly. There is more then i need and i plan on bring the shelf up and enclose it. When i had someone put it in the basement, it was because i had company, but realized the potential of the space. With a partner i can make this work.

As of now if they stretch a bit thats ok, cuz i have the space and im only trying to keep them going till the supplies are all here. I hope next week:thumbsup: I guess im more happy when i have something growing.

Here are a few pics of the set up then il post potential problems i might have. I am running cheep and you all know what they say about cheep:rasta:

Not saying it can't be done, we have seen it on here:jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well i went over my 10min. to edit my post, so i hope you all can wait till i get the go ahead from the mods to continue, im sure youl make it. lol

[LetsSeeYa]

Does anyone see my pic's at all. Iv never had to deal with this before and was wondering how long it takes for the mods to get back with a person to finish their edit:thumbsup::rasta:

[psychodelic]

Yup, I see all three pictures from your first post. Looks good, I'm sure it'll be a good grow!

[Hempsouth]

That space looks jam up for indoor, white walls which is good.

One step at a time, you will be modifiying and improving on a continous basis so keep that in mind.

It might take me a few months to get it done but I will make some beans of the Blueberry auto's for you to try.

[Felixthecat]

damn dude the last time i did the same shit with 5 purple seeds (the real deal holy field or real McCoy trust me i know that shit ain't fake) 4 survive out of 5 i was really happy(i think it's in my grow) grew for a FUCKING week and they all start dying from no where one by one slowly all four it was devastating and a waste but i was thinking about getting some beans like the other guy did the ones that cost 1000 i know that shit sound ridiculous but i read the info on the beans and its 35%THC hahaha one hit you be fucked and two hit you be dead hahaha but back to the subject yours looking pretty good i will be tuned in to be learning something new

[KillerBudG]

LetsSeeYa, Yo Bro hows it going, I was peeping out your outdoor you had goin. I would love to have that lil space under some stairs. A HID would do that area a lot of justice. But here is what i think, your plants are stretching, I would try to get that bulb about 2-3 inches from the plant and adjust accordingly. It would also help if you wanna keep it where it is right now to throw couple more on the sides of pots for extra lighting. They are stretching bad not the worst i seen but needs fixing IMHo


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[newb101]

yea bro looks nice! cant wait for updates!

[KillerBudG]

They are stretching bad not the worst i seen but needs fixing IMHo
Sorry was high, eyes was tricking me. they are not really stretched. But when I replant i would put some of that stem under soil. The extra bulb on the sides would help a lot. Keep it nice and bushy and the secondary growth you will love. At least I did on my ladies I started under cfls, but i was using a 43w and a 23w


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[LetsSeeYa]

Sorry was high, eyes was tricking me. they are not really stretched. But when I replant i would put some of that stem under soil. The extra bulb on the sides would help a lot. Keep it nice and bushy and the secondary growth you will love. At least I did on my ladies I started under cfls, but i was using a 43w and a 23w


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Yeah Killer i had addressed all this in my first post , but took to long and need the mods permission to finish it. This was all new to me, so im just going to re type it now.

First thing, i know there stretching a bit, but both will be re potted in pots that are the same size. Also, i will be adding 6 more 26w CFL's. Working on getting a few things i need. I germed the seeds as sort of a motivation type thing, which its working:thumbsup:. I need 1 more clamp light, 5 Y splitters and then just little things which as of now im not sure when il have everything. Tonight i have a light that stands upright and im putting in 3 cfl's in them and will try and get it as close as possible on top of the plants. Plus i will be re potting them in simaler pots. So, as far as the stretching is concerned, il just bury them deep. It can only help the plants grow more roots. I put them there for a temporary time period while i had someone that i thought of as nosy, but then was so amazed at what i could do with the space i had a change of plans. Thats why its sorta a grow set up thrown together fast.

In the above pics. I put them in reverse order. First pic is a temp basic set up for now. Just wanted to show potential space, which is just so hidden. Also an idea of whats going on.

Second pic is the growth it got in 4 days under 2 26w cfl's at 24/0. I think they have done well after sitting under my bed side table with 1 26w cfl. Now i tried to leave the light on as much as possible, but i had to sleep:D

The last pic is only about three days of growth, i just wanted to show the difference in about 3-5 days under 24/0 w/ 2 cfl's on them. So, i cant wait to get all 8 on em. Probably will go 12/12 after i have all lights going, but unsure as of now.

After i get them re potted and the tree light going, il put pics on at about
7-8 tonight. I know its still not enough, but it can only help growth.

My big issue is soil, its that stuff that feeds for 9 months. Thats something i need to address. But for now i will not use any ferts at all. I will use some molasis and any micro nute i can find, but i dont want to burn em up by adding ferts to a soil thats already loaded with them and il be getting soil soon and maybe chuck this stuff in a outside hole for a summer grow and see how it turns out:thumbsup::rasta:

[headshake]

subscribed!

gonna have to read through this log later to catch up.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

That space looks jam up for indoor, white walls which is good.

One step at a time, you will be modifiying and improving on a continous basis so keep that in mind.

It might take me a few months to get it done but I will make some beans of the Blueberry auto's for you to try.

Thanks for the advise Hemp, as any advise will help me. Wow Blueberry, that would be incredible!:thumbsup:

Thing is heck i get nervous when i try an pop a seed of the premo ones i have. Just worry they wont pop and then freak, cuz i feel like i wasted a seed. Might need a nerve pill to germ a Blueberry:jointsmile:

Also, i really dont know much about ''auto''. Is it just they bud after a genetically modified period of time. Like they will finish after 60 days or something. Its what iv assumed all this time, but cant find a thread that explains it? BTW how are yours doing? :rasta:

[Hempsouth]

LSY yes auto flowers pretty much do their own thing timing wise. Seed to weed in 9-11 weeks. There are even some 8 week ones. They will flower under lights 24/7. Most peeps run lights 18/6 or 20/4.

Don't worry about beans there are plenty to go around.

[LetsSeeYa]

LSY yes auto flowers pretty much do their own thing timing wise. Seed to weed in 9-11 weeks. There are even some 8 week ones. They will flower under lights 24/7. Most peeps run lights 18/6 or 20/4.

Don't worry about beans there are plenty to go around.

Wow, you would think more people would be growing em out. Can a person ''make'' an auto. What i mean is cross it with a select strain ya like and then get the auto gene in the cross. I was thinking WhiteBlueberry:thumbsup:. Can you imagine those crossed and be an auto:bigsmoke:



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[Hempsouth]

It takes some work & time to get crosses stable. 3-4 generations probably and you would have to grow a number of plants to be selective.

[LetsSeeYa]

It takes some work & time to get crosses stable. 3-4 generations probably and you would have to grow a number of plants to be selective.

Man thats interesting as heck. I need to read about the auto more. I remember when i was young and people used to talk about 4th and 5th generation weed. They always would say it makes the weed better, but i never bought into it. Because ya cant change the genetics by growing it. Now if ya crossed them ok, i wonder if thats what they were doing. Just heard it a long time ago how people bragging about the generation of seeds that were used that made the weed so potent:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Here is a couple pics of improvements. Added 2 more CFL's and am enclosing sides now with tinfoil. The hood is too small so we put it on higher to reflect what i can. I knew i shoulda got the bigger one. Im getting one this weekend along with the 3 y splitters and il be running all my lights, which is 8 23w cfl's.

Got a surprise too. If you look at the one on the left, you can see that another seed popped, so that makes 3 out of 4 that germed:thumbsup: il let er grow a couple days and transplant it.

But whats up with the second to last pic last pic. It seems like the leaves are curling under. I would think heat, but theres a fan on top that is on all the time. Seems like its getting to much heat? It could be swirling around cuz if you can tell the soil isnt to the top of the pot as its in a temp place for now :rasta: Well i guess the leaves are straighting out now, so cool will check em in the morning and hopefully its worked its self out:rasta:

[RoundEye]

Looks like you're burning the heck out of that poor little seedling. You can't give so much to such a small thing or it'll die, even if it's CFL

[psychodelic]

It's not the amount of light, it's that the lights are too close.

Move the lights 3-4" higher. The fan doesn't get rid of the heat when the lights are that close. I'd move it ASAP.

[LetsSeeYa]

It's not the amount of light, it's that the lights are too close.

Move the lights 3-4" higher. The fan doesn't get rid of the heat when the lights are that close. I'd move it ASAP.

Yeah, its what i thought. But had a problem last night and took everything down and have them in my shower now w/ 3 lights on them.

We put the other two y splitters on the light and added the other 2 lights making my light at 4 cfl's. Well 10 min. later my power just died! I had about half power trough out the house and some thing just didnt work at all. Hell my security light outside even went out. So, thinking after call my power company, i freaked thinking the would go through my basement to see what killed my power and basiclly go to jail! So, after call them and getting a automated system, i gave them the run down and like 2 min. later all my power came on. So me and my parinoiya got my set up in a mess now.

Could my adding two lights done this? I had 4 26w cfl's and a small fan running on one cord. Was this something i could have created?

Plus i blew 2 bulbs already, one was when the power went completly out and the other blew when we were just changing to 4 bulbs. When it was being unscrewed it just blew? Anyone with some experiance, i really could need some advise. Thanks everyone for looing in!

[Dutch Pimp]

Next time:

geminate seeds in 18oz plastic cups..(seedling starter soil mix & 20% perlite)(holes for drainage)(keep temps 80-85 degrees)

I use 4ft T-12 shop lights the first 3 weeks (6500k) T-12's won't burn the leaf, even when touching the bulbs...:thumbsup:...and I use 20/4 light cycle


..............one week........................two weeks..........:stoned:

[psychodelic]

I have a couple thoughts:

~ CFLs wouldn't cause a power outage for your house. They just don't have enough power to do that. Especially since the power outage didn't occur until 10 minutes later.

~ My first guess was that you just blew a fuse (your security light and grow lights are on the same circuit, and it got overloaded). But if that were the case, you would have had to reset it at the fuse box; the power company wouldn't have been able to do that over the phone.

~ My second thought is that there was a random power surge/outage at your house (and maybe some of your neighbors' too, you could ask if you ever see them) that coincidentally happened 10 minutes after you added some lights. This is my best guess, since the power company was able to rectify the situation over the phone.

~ You need to figure out the Amperage for the circuit that your lights are connected to, and figure out how many appliances/lights/etc. are connected to that circuit already. Like I said, I think the outage was unrelated to your lights...however, if you plan on adding lights and other appliances to the circuit, you need to know this (to avoid blowing fuses or risk of fire).

[LetsSeeYa]

I have a couple thoughts:

~ CFLs wouldn't cause a power outage for your house. They just don't have enough power to do that. Especially since the power outage didn't occur until 10 minutes later. Well it was more like half power at first, but while looking at the braker box, there was one over load. We switched it back and messed with other swiches, turn off and on and then lost complete power. So, it just didnt kill all power at once, some things went out and some just had about half power

~ My first guess was that you just blew a fuse (your security light and grow lights are on the same circuit, and it got overloaded). But if that were the case, you would have had to reset it at the fuse box; the power company wouldn't have been able to do that over the phone. We dont run on a fuse, most new houses dont anymore. Plus the power company said ''your power will be on by 10;30 and a few min. later they fixed it. They also said they had my problem in there system and were working on it.

~ My second thought is that there was a random power surge/outage at your house (and maybe some of your neighbors' too, you could ask if you ever see them) that coincidentally happened 10 minutes after you added some lights. This is my best guess, since the power company was able to rectify the situation over the phone. This is what im thinking happen. I am going to try a different plug in and see what happens

~ You need to figure out the Amperage for the circuit that your lights are connected to, and figure out how many appliances/lights/etc. are connected to that circuit already. Like I said, I think the outage was unrelated to your lights...however, if you plan on adding lights and other appliances to the circuit, you need to know this (to avoid blowing fuses or risk of fire).

This is true. But i would not even know where to look. I can say the switch that went off was marked 20 As most are. But as far as what is conected to that swich is a clue. I guess i can have someone study it a bit more to see if things are marked?

[psychodelic]

Gotcha. I misinterpreted the power outage, since I didn't know about the "half power" issue. And 20A is definitely big enough to handle all your grow power.

[LetsSeeYa]

Well seems i wasn't just me that had an outage. Seems it was about a 3 county surge that messed with me. Suck, cuz i tore down getting all paranoid. OH well.

They are in my bathroom and for some reason its cold in there. My lights are on em i just hope i dint end up with 3 hermies, for changing their environment to much:rasta:

[psychodelic]

No need to worry about hermies right now. Focus on keeping them alive, happy, and growing.

If the sprouts are in the bathtub, that may be too cold for them. Put a book underneath the cups, because the bathtub is colder than the air temperature, and you don't want to let the roots get cold. The lights will keep the above-ground part of the plant warm, but if the roots get cold, it will stunt growth or possibly kill it.

Good luck getting it set back up! Spark one up while you work...it'll make it more entertaining :)

[LetsSeeYa]

Every things back in its place:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Somethings is stressing my plants i think:wtf:. Im not sure because its been 11 days under 24/0 lights. I read a lot of logs and mine arnt close to anything iv seen. The tin foil helped, but the temp's of the soil i believe isn't warm enough. Thats gotta be it. I was afraid to enclose the front of the shelf because of the heat, but tonight thats the plan.

Also, im moving everything to the bottom shelf. The fan can set right behind the plants to move out the heat. I will cover the front of the shelf with tin foil too. Iv left it open because the one plant was getting too much heat. I should have made sure the lights were not as close and the front should have been enclosed. I hope this warms up the soil, yet the fan controls the heat on the leaves.

Its just difficult because i cant get down there and i get my visuals through pic's. I tell em to do something, they do it and take pics. I look at the pics and adjust accordingly:D For now thats just how it has to be. I have a stair glide, but the damn thing is a death trap waiting to happen. I went down on it the day they put it in my house and my friend had to bear hug me all the way down. lol Plus it leaves me about 3' from my chair, now jumping down is ok, but getting back up,lol, forget it! Thats when i saw the space. But im not getting on that thing now. I was younger and braver in those days.lol

This pic was taken the 22nd, 11 days after what the seedling looks like. Think theres a problem? Just seems very small? My summer grow is about gone, so i need these baby's to take off:jointsmile:. Im hoping its just 1st indoor paranoia:wtf:

Looking through, i havnt said what i got growin. These are a mix, either Skunk #1, Haze or a cross of the two. I germed 2 more and there getting on pretty good. Different strain, but unsure of the genetics. Il find out, called Edna.

Peace

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[psychodelic]

I'd change the lighting to 18/6. What are the daytime and nighttime temperatures? Make sure the thermometer is away from the lights though, so you can get an accurate reading.

Also, new plants like high humidity until they start developing multiple nodes. what is the humidity level like?

From your pictures though, they don't looked too stressed. They look good, not stretching too much. I've had plants that take about 2 weeks to get the first real node.

[LetsSeeYa]

I'd change the lighting to 18/6. What are the daytime and nighttime temperatures? Make sure the thermometer is away from the lights though, so you can get an accurate reading.

Also, new plants like high humidity until they start developing multiple nodes. what is the humidity level like?

From your pictures though, they don't looked too stressed. They look good, not stretching too much. I've had plants that take about 2 weeks to get the first real node.

Im waiting as we speak for temp's to the tops of the plants. Then il get a temp on the room. I dont have a timer or anything to check humidity. But i was thinking today about my dehumidifier. It cost over 300 bucks. I thought i could use it to control the humidity as well as move air. This thing is really high tech and i know its for removing humidity, but it might control the environment as to the level i want. I gotta see what this thing does besides taking water out of the air. I think i can add some with it, im sure. It was the best they had at home depot. If anything i could use it to find out the humidity in the room. Its all digital and confusing:wtf:

Well they look better now because i flipped the fan. They had the fan blowing the heat down into the pots. The biggest pot was where i germed them and planned on re potting all of them. But in the last pic you can see we put more soil in so the heat wouldnt lay in it. After 2 days there was much improvement:thumbsup:

Temps are 82 at the tops of the plants and 68 in the room. Here is a pic of modifyed set up and pic of the plants looking ok i think:thumbsup::rasta:

[ghengis]

You need to get rid of that aluminum foil my man. Aluminum is only like 30 or 40% reflective - you should just paint the walls of your box with a plain flat white spray paint, which is 99% reflective. Plus the aluminum creates "hot spots" that can focus light like little laser beams, burning your plants.

[Hempsouth]

You could put cardboard on the outside of your foil as reinforcement and paint the tinfoil white. Or you could keep a good watch on the plants to see if CFL's would actually burn or damage the plants. IMO when the foil is pretty wrinkled it works better than just smooth shiny foil.


BTW a couple of peeps are running those Skunk#1/NL#5, getting some good reports back.

[GetThisOrDie]

I agree with ghengis...
The tin foil crinkles up and focuses light on leaves and burns them...
Get flat white spray paint at wally world for $.89 a can. Simple yet super effective!

[LetsSeeYa]

You need to get rid of that aluminum foil my man. Aluminum is only like 30 or 40% reflective - you should just paint the walls of your box with a plain flat white spray paint, which is 99% reflective. Plus the aluminum creates "hot spots" that can focus light like little laser beams, burning your plants.

Hey ghengis, thanks for stopping by. I have painted some cardboard, but it needs another coat. Plus all my walls are already painted flat white if you noticed. The cab will be moved soon to veg with, then put down where the cab was to finish. The foil is a temp thing for now. I need to get 1 more light set up and il veg up here and finish down there. Got a lot of usable space, but not enough cash to get it going right now. But thanks for your input:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

You could put cardboard on the outside of your foil as reinforcement and paint the tinfoil white. Or you could keep a good watch on the plants to see if CFL's would actually burn or damage the plants. IMO when the foil is pretty wrinkled it works better than just smooth shiny foil.


BTW a couple of peeps are running those Skunk#1/NL#5, getting some good reports back.

Thanks Hemp, I have 3 of them going, so i hope its one of each:thumbsup: Popped two of those Edna and they look super healthy! Id like to get one of each strain grown out before summer. I am going to try to germ a couple of Wit next! Iv gotten 5-6 to pop so far, lets hope there the lady type:thumbsup:
Thanks for stoppin in my man:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

I was thinking and do you have any idea how many grows iv seen using the back of tin foil. just so ya know, i have it on using the back. Its a popular item iv seen in a lot of grows. This is the first time iv heard of that:rasta:

[headshake]

You need to get rid of that aluminum foil my man. Aluminum is only like 30 or 40% reflective - you should just paint the walls of your box with a plain flat white spray paint, which is 99% reflective. Plus the aluminum creates "hot spots" that can focus light like little laser beams, burning your plants.

not to mention that tin foil is more than 30-40% reflective. reflection of the bright side is about 88% while the dull side is around 80%. the problem with using the bright side is that it creates hot spots. do you suppose that it would create hot spots if it wasn't very reflective?

also, flat white paint is not 99% reflective. i think it's around 85% or so. i can't locate the exact number at the moment. why would people buy mylar or panda plastic if they only needed flat white spray paint?

i appreciate the willingness to give advice, but perhaps you should KNOW what you are talking about (or at least have a small clue) first!


LSY, things are coming my friend. i read through your log last night. is everything still good? did you get everything finished? again, i'll be around as much as i can.

good growing!


-shake

[psychodelic]

i appreciate the willingness to give advice, but perhaps you should KNOW what you are talking about (or at least have a small clue) first!

I was thinking the exact same thing. SOunded like numbers were just pulled out of the air...at least he could have done a little research and picked numbers that were close to accurate.

LSY, that tin foil is fine. Seedlings look great, keep doing what you're doing. People like to nitpick other people's grows because it isn't exactly how they grow. Your plants look happy and healthy, you're not a first-time grower...:hippy:

[LetsSeeYa]

not to mention that tin foil is more than 30-40% reflective. reflection of the bright side is about 88% while the dull side is around 80%. the problem with using the bright side is that it creates hot spots. do you suppose that it would create hot spots if it wasn't very reflective?

also, flat white paint is not 99% reflective. i think it's around 85% or so. i can't locate the exact number at the moment. why would people buy mylar or panda plastic if they only needed flat white spray paint?

i appreciate the willingness to give advice, but perhaps you should KNOW what you are talking about (or at least have a small clue) first!


LSY, things are coming my friend. i read through your log last night. is everything still good? did you get everything finished? again, i'll be around as much as i can.

good growing!


-shake

Glad ya were able to stop in Shake, i was thinking about ya after i got the don't use tin foil advise. Its only that iv seen it used so much, thanks for the info. Everyting is getting along better now that iv move down to the bottom shelf. It helps to be able to adjust the reflector on the light and concentrate it on the plants better. The space on the shelf is under a sq foot using 7,000 lumen's of light. I got a timer and thermometer that reads humidity. So, im hoping to go 12/12 soon. Its just not right when ya cant pop in to give me that great advise and understand the newbie part of me, thanks man:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

I was thinking the exact same thing. SOunded like numbers were just pulled out of the air...at least he could have done a little research and picked numbers that were close to accurate.

LSY, that tin foil is fine. Seedlings look great, keep doing what you're doing. People like to nitpick other people's grows because it isn't exactly how they grow. Your plants look happy and healthy, you're not a first-time grower...:hippy:

Hey man, didnt even see your post, i think i was posting at the same time. But yeah i was thinking iv seen to many people using tin foil not to use it myself. Il be getting the rest of my supplies tonight. I am going to run 8 26w cfl's, but was wondering if i could get a mh light at wal mart to flower? I wonder if a clamp light would accommodate one? Just thinking about 12/12 soon. Im not sure what to flower with. Some cash fell into my lap and its burning my pocket. I have my thermometer gage with humidity on it as well and i have my timer. Think i just want to start 12/12 soon, my usb cable is broke, but il get one tonight. They look good though. I could just use the 8 cfl's, just defies everything iv read. 27 k to flower? Haven't thought about how i should flower em. Iv seen people use 1 set of lights from go to done before and looked killer to me. At this point im looking at getting them done as fast as possible. Id take some clones and then grow those out differently. The outdoor is about gone.'' I cant believe i smoked the whole thing'' - anyone remember that reference?LOL

Any thoughts out there?:rasta:

[ghengis]

not to mention that tin foil is more than 30-40% reflective. reflection of the bright side is about 88% while the dull side is around 80%. the problem with using the bright side is that it creates hot spots. do you suppose that it would create hot spots if it wasn't very reflective?

also, flat white paint is not 99% reflective. i think it's around 85% or so. i can't locate the exact number at the moment. why would people buy mylar or panda plastic if they only needed flat white spray paint?


Sorry if my reflectivity numbers didn't jive with Wikipedia...I got my numbers from the Grow Bible (Greg Green). Anyway, my point was that you could improve your grow space by losing the foil and painting the walls white. It's more reflective (whatever the exact numbers) and no risk of heat spots.

[LetsSeeYa]

Sorry if my reflectivity numbers didn't jive with Wikipedia...I got my numbers from the Grow Bible (Greg Green). Anyway, my point was that you could improve your grow space by losing the foil and painting the walls white. It's more reflective (whatever the exact numbers) and no risk of heat spots.

Well like i said ghengis i need another coat of paint on my card board. Thats just a temp set up and everything is fine. Temps are 70degrees, but a little more warm at the canopy and humidity was 43 as this morning. That box will be moved and lights will hang from the ceiling. If you can tell the walls are painted flat white now. I needed more light before putting the plants in more space. Just picked up more lights last night, so everything could be taken out of the cab and start to flower. There are only two which id flower now and would divide up the room. I could even use the cab to veg out the other 3. Just so ya know im planning on putting the card board on the cab, because it will make the cab more sturdy, but when its convenient. No burns as of yet on the leaves:thumbsup::rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well my usb cable broke so i cant show new growth. They continue to grow well, still in veg. I soon will take them out of the grow box and enclose an area in the back to start flowering. I will get something to divide the room up so i can veg in the box and flower in the back of the space i have. I will get a usb cable soon and will post some pics of new growth. I got a bit of burn on 1 plants leaves, so we are moving them around each day and seems to be helping. I am trying to figure this timer out. Iv only looked at it once and im making more of it then i should, so next couple of days flower we go:rasta:

[psychodelic]

Well my usb cable broke so i cant show new growth. They continue to grow well, still in veg. I soon will take them out of the grow box and enclose an area in the back to start flowering. I will get something to divide the room up so i can veg in the box and flower in the back of the space i have. I will get a usb cable soon and will post some pics of new growth. I got a bit of burn on 1 plants leaves, so we are moving them around each day and seems to be helping. I am trying to figure this timer out. Iv only looked at it once and im making more of it then i should, so next couple of days flower we go:rasta:

I'm confused about why you are going into flower so soon? Unless you had a SOG with clones and stuff, it's kind of a waste to put a 2-week-old plant into flower. It won't get very big at all, and there's a good chance it'll hermie, being that young.

I'd wait at least another 4 weeks at least before flowering. Unless you have reasoning that I'm not aware of.

[LetsSeeYa]

I'm confused about why you are going into flower so soon? Unless you had a SOG with clones and stuff, it's kind of a waste to put a 2-week-old plant into flower. It won't get very big at all, and there's a good chance it'll hermie, being that young.

I'd wait at least another 4 weeks at least before flowering. Unless you have reasoning that I'm not aware of.

Well i gave away too much of my outdoor grow and am just about out:wtf:. It will be close to the end of the month or a few days into Dec. I want to get a new crop going. One in which, i germ them at the same time. What i did was really messed up. Almost every plant was started at a different time, which i realize was just wrong. So, basically its a do-over:thumbsup:. This will also get me ready with clones for my outdoor grow this summer:thumbsup:.

I have the supplies needed now except for some pots that are all the same size. Id like some 6'' and 12'' pots to start and finish with an even canopy:thumbsup:. But mainly i believe i got off with a bad start trying to motivate myself. So, starting again, i can avoid the previous mistakes, plus i have most of everything i need for an indoor grow. I want to get it right this time, plus give me enough smoke to last me till then:rasta:

[ForgetClassC]

Just a pointer, flat white spraypaint or anly flat white paint for that matter only has a reflectance coefficient of .83 so about 83% reflectance.

-C

[LetsSeeYa]

Just a pointer, flat white spraypaint or anly flat white paint for that matter only has a reflectance coefficient of .83 so about 83% reflectance.

-C

Hey FCC thanks for stopping by. Thanks for sharing the answer that everyone seemed to have a different opinion on. BTW can ya tell me where you read, saw or found out the answer, id just like to expand my mind:hippy:




:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Thanks for the Rep. Shake:jointsmile:. So ya back or havin one of those fine coffees?





:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Will this help my plants veg faster, or better?:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

Will this help my plants veg faster, or better?:rasta:

A short duration of darkness is good as it gives the plant time to rest. I have used 24/0, 18/6 & 20/4 and cannot tell any difference. But I never went more than a few weeks at 24/0.

Things grow pretty well in Alaska and they have almost 24/0 light during the summer.

[mistreater]

Nice little set up. I'm waiting for mine to bud.. Goodluck

[LetsSeeYa]

A short duration of darkness is good as it gives the plant time to rest. I have used 24/0, 18/6 & 20/4 and cannot tell any difference. But I never went more than a few weeks at 24/0.

Things grow pretty well in Alaska and they have almost 24/0 light during the summer.

I have 2 plants i started a bit earlier then the other 3, which is something i should have thought about before. But they all look healthy especially the ones in pots. They are both at about 5-6 nodes, yet only about 5'' tall. Once i get another light im going to divide the room up. I will get the card board on the sides of the shelf in place of the tin foil. Then il veg in the shelf and flower in the back part of my space. I thought i could just use a tension rod and a thick white shower curtain to separate the room off, plus something at the entrance for smell later in the grow. Also, 4 need re potted before i could think about flower. I have pic's on my phone but not sure i can get them on here or not.

Oh i guess i need a charge on my phone so il post them after im charged:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Here are a couple pics taken last night. The nodes are so close there hard to count. There are 2 that need to be re potted as you can see. I have a bit of burn, but after some adjustments they are looking pretty good at least i think for my first indoor grow. Its odd to see the leaves grow under 24/0 light. The leaves look different, but maybe i have a problem and dont know it:wtf:

The 2 in pots will be in veg now for 18 days. As you can see i need to re pot the one in the cup and the one in the smaller pot:thumbsup:

Thanks for any input:rasta:

[psychodelic]

Awesome, LSY! They look great! Looks like you have a couple different strains there. Hoping for some lady parts!

[LetsSeeYa]

Awesome, LSY! They look great! Looks like you have a couple different strains there. Hoping for some lady parts!

Thanks man:thumbsup:. But the one in the smaller pot was all burned up and wilted last night. I adjusted the light last night to get a bit of vertical growth on them. Also, the smaller pot will be re potted as it might be root bound, asap:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

You can see the wilted plant here. Sorry my cameras messed up, so cell photo. This was over night. Temps stay at 75, so either it didn't get water or its root bound. Or, what the heck, both. lol

Ok i finally figured out how to do the cell thing. You can see it has wilted over night. :rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Yeppers, needed some H2O and fixed the problem. Temps are at about 80degrees inside. The fan thats down there sucks, so i have a better one when i need it. I put the one in the pop container in a bigger pot. Here are a few pics after damage control. The plan is to catch up to myself and then start flower. Then i will start a new crop that will give me clones for summer. Looks way better then the above pic. And this was over night. Thank God its a weed:hippy:

If anyone has comments, let em fly:rasta:

[headshake]

keep pluggin' my friend, it's all valuble experience!

-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

keep pluggin' my friend, it's all valuble experience!

-shake

Thanks for stopping by Shake:thumbsup: Its is an experience thats for sure. Outside i only needed to water, feed and keep the critters away. Well for the most part, but inside ya got to almost be God:D. I admire the indoor growers even more after this experience:thumbsup:

Well the nodes were so close from the light being as close as i could get it, so i thought with my new space i thought id stretch em out a bit before i flower them. Not sure as to try and take clones with these for summer or start another grow to use this summer. I will probably let the plants answer that for me. Its interesting that a person can keep clones alive for a few months in the fridge, i read about. His grows look great too, so its good info:thumbsup:

Could be 4 different strains though so im really hoping for some females. It could be Skunk#1, Haze#5 or the cross someone made from the two. They were mixed when i got them, im hoping someone might know something when they get bigger. Also, in the cups are called Edna, so looking forward to outside grow again for sure:rasta:

[sarah louise]

It's a bit of a steep learning curve when you first go indoors, but looking good LSY, looking good. :thumbsup:

sara.

[PAYBACK]

IM NOT SURE IF THAT GROW WILL BE SUCCESSFUL??? IM VERY CURIOUS ON HOW IT DOES THO!

[LetsSeeYa]

It's a bit of a steep learning curve when you first go indoors, but looking good LSY, looking good. :thumbsup:

sara.

Your right but we all had to start with a 1st grow. I think learning is just part of the process everyone goes through. But, every thing is green so far and im getting a couple of inches a day or so of growth.

Thanks for stopping by sara and feel free to stop back as i can use any input as i can get, thanks again:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

IM NOT SURE IF THAT GROW WILL BE SUCCESSFUL??? IM VERY CURIOUS ON HOW IT DOES THO!

So, just wondered how you can say my grow will not be successful? If i got one joint out of my grow, that could be successful to me. You come in and determine this after about 25 days of growth. Also, its my first indoor grow, which is were i am gaining experience. That alone is success:thumbsup:
Maybe i dont have the tools or equipment that an experienced grower may have, but i know what my expatiations are and will see what happens. Also you know that every grower on this site had a first grow, even you:thumbsup: BTW is the pic you posted your first grow, if so :thumbsup:, if not dont put down the grow so soon:wtf:


But just dont post this and not come back, cuz theres nothing better then when someone say's ''you cant'', so thanks for that and stick around:rasta:

[headshake]

don't worry about criticism LSY. i was told the same thing when i started and i think i am doing pretty good now!

-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

don't worry about criticism LSY. i was told the same thing when i started and i think i am doing pretty good now!

-shake

Yeah your right, its a motivator. Your growing looks better then just pretty good! But iv learned to expect it now:thumbsup: Thanks for stopping by, i feel like im doing something right or id be advised:rasta:

Thanks Shake:jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

Ima gaining on it:thumbsup:

lol, Just was feeling good about this pic, lets hope it likes to play with dolls:hippy:


:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

If your into group shots, here ya go:rasta:


oh 22 days, not bad for my set backs:hippy:

[psychodelic]

If your into group shots, here ya go:rasta:


oh 22 days, not bad for my set backs:hippy:

They look great!

[Hempsouth]

heck yes LSY your getting there, the hard part is yet to come"Flowering" thats when a lady can show her true colors and sensitivities.

Harvested an EdnaXBR1947 a few weeks ago, its the strongest one to date out of 5 tested. Got two TaHaR and the are not doing crap.

Got 4 females of C99 X Strawberry Cough going but just turned them 12/12 about 9 days back so they are young. Maybe end of January I can harvest.

[LetsSeeYa]

heck yes LSY your getting there, the hard part is yet to come"Flowering" thats when a lady can show her true colors and sensitivities.

Harvested an EdnaXBR1947 a few weeks ago, its the strongest one to date out of 5 tested. Got two TaHaR and the are not doing crap.

Got 4 females of C99 X Strawberry Cough going but just turned them 12/12 about 9 days back so they are young. Maybe end of January I can harvest.

Hey Hemp, glad you stopped by. Its great your grows seem to be going well:thumbsup:. I really am not sure when or how to start to veg? My reading says 5k for veg and 2700 to flower. But iv read threads where a person just grows them under as much light as possible and turns out a great grow. There is really no info out there as to grow cfl veg/flower info. As no change in spectrum or time period. Everyone seems to be only experimenting with the cfl grows? Nothing set to a guide line yet.

Iv read almost every log in here and everyone has a different technique. Sounds like a good thread to start. But as im not expereanced grower i would need help gathering information. Hell i might just do that:thumbsup:. Im sure it would help a lot of people.

My Edna's are going to get a new home tonight and im changing my space. I will be hanging lights from my ceiling and going to take advantage of my space. Im sure il get a pic of the set up tonight. Also, i was able to get more light and supplies today. I am going to try cloning, which iv tried once and it took root.
Stop back my friend:hippy:



:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

They look great!

Thanks man:thumbsup:. I gotta a ways to go but they look healthy and im getting about 2'' growth everyday:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[headshake]

Got 4 females of C99 X Strawberry Cough going but just turned them 12/12 about 9 days back so they are young. Maybe end of January I can harvest.

that's sounds like a bad-ass cross HS! can't wait to see how that turns out!


i hear ya loud and clear LSY. your plants are looking awesome, much better than any of mine when i started. keep it up and keep feeding off of that "motivation"!


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

that's sounds like a bad-ass cross HS! can't wait to see how that turns out!


i hear ya loud and clear LSY. your plants are looking awesome, much better than any of mine when i started. keep it up and keep feeding off of that "motivation"!


-shake

Thanks for stopping in Shake:thumbsup:. They do look good, at least for my
1st attemt at an indoor grow. Plus w/ the good strain's iv been given it just makes this much more exciting:thumbsup:

BTW you have a very killer grow going on my man. Looks like fun working with so many starins!

I got my Edna's in bigger pots now and im out of the shelf, but may use it to veg in, as it worked great for me. I have one more strain to germ yet and i might just drop em in a cup of water tonight to get them in soil in the morning. Its my germ method. Works for me very well. I put all my seeds in a giant pot in the summer and let it sit in the sun and 15 out of 20 popped, seven were harvested. Just carfully dig under them and put them in cups till they were ready for the wild. But, maybe clones this year!:thumbsup:

Keep er green man:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

Its a fun hobby and great way to get some natural medicine with out supporting Mexican cartels. Looks like you are really getting into it LSY which is great for the soul, spirit & mind.

Indoors for the most part you have environmental control and as a general rule good sucess. Biggest fowl ups I make and made as a newb is over watering and over fertilizing.


-shake-

The C99XSC should be pretty special the parentage is world class. The SC is a cut only strain from many years back.

[headshake]

-shake-

The C99XSC should be pretty special the parentage is world class. The SC is a cut only strain from many years back.

nice. is your SC anything special (i don't mean that to sound as rude as it does)? i know that dutch passion now has SC beans. just curious.


-shake

[Hempsouth]

nice. is your SC anything special (i don't mean that to sound as rude as it does)? i know that dutch passion now has SC beans. just curious.


-shake

hand me down clone from original Kyle Kushmans. Came from reliable old time growers. So it should be superior to dutch passions which has been watered down. Had a sample of the SC from organic soil and thought it was excellent motivational smoke, not a complex buzz which I liked.
The C99 pollen was from grim f1 male.

[senorx12562]

I'm on my first grow myself, LSY, and it has been, and I'm sure will continue to be, a learning process. The one thing I have noticed, although I NEVER would have believed it before this, is that I can almost feel what they need. Especially now that they are starting to flower, its almost like they are girls (duh!).
I sat in my flowering room tonight for a couple hours, closely examining every bit of each plant. I felt very connected. Very satisfying. Almost like parenting, which I've always thought was the best and hardest thing I've ever done. I still think so, but this is very enlightening. Good luck, and happy gardening.

[headshake]

hand me down clone from original Kyle Kushmans. Came from reliable old time growers. So it should be superior to dutch passions which has been watered down. Had a sample of the SC from organic soil and thought it was excellent motivational smoke, not a complex buzz which I liked.
The C99 pollen was from grim f1 male.

very cool HS! i hear ya. can't wait to see how gnarly they get!

-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

Well im out of my grow shelf and set everything up at the back of my space. I did it this way because as they get bigger, i can use the sloop of the ceiling to raise the lights.

But im going to have the person im working with change around the position of the plants and use the white wall behind the cardboard to compact my grow space. Also, i have 5 26w bulbs and 1 30w to get my lumens to
10,850. The grow area is about, or will be about 2' square :rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

I'm on my first grow myself, LSY, and it has been, and I'm sure will continue to be, a learning process. The one thing I have noticed, although I NEVER would have believed it before this, is that I can almost feel what they need. Especially now that they are starting to flower, its almost like they are girls (duh!).
I sat in my flowering room tonight for a couple hours, closely examining every bit of each plant. I felt very connected. Very satisfying. Almost like parenting, which I've always thought was the best and hardest thing I've ever done. I still think so, but this is very enlightening. Good luck, and happy gardening.

Yeah i pretty much did the same thing while doing my outdoor grow this past summer. One of the feelings that will always stick with me. Its better alone and :stoned:. Im a nature freak so anything outsides cool with me:thumbsup:

I got my basics started then, so indoor stuff is mainly about the environment for me, keeping it stable. After iv watched one grow out, i can tell where improvements need to be added and diagnose a problem with much more confidence. That doesnt mean i stop reading and learning, as il bet i read 5 hours a day if id average it out, i like the pictures too:). The experience has only made me fascinated with the details now. Also, i never would stop asking questions, or reading grow logs. I thought i was amazed with growing bonsai, but this is faster growing and development. With a great reward:thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well one was over watered, but it will work er self out now. But this is what it looks like under the lights now. I had my friend get them more close together, to be able to pick up light from both fixtures.

24 days for the 3 Skunk #1/Haze #5, which are front right and the 2 on the right hand side in 2nd pic

Unsure to the Edna's, but they are the two on in the left pic. Time is in log, so i guess il go back and confirm. They were only put in a pot last night:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

LSY be careful using clear containers, the combination of water, light, heat & oxygen can cause algae. Paint the outside or cover with newspaper.

[LetsSeeYa]

LSY be careful using clear containers, the combination of water, light, heat & oxygen can cause algae. Paint the outside or cover with newspaper.

Hey Hemp thanks for the advise, but the crappy pic's dont show its not clear. I know the roots would die as soon as the light would hit them. Its actually a white big butter container. I needed to get it out of the Dew bottle, as you could see the roots, which would have killed em.

My damn lights fell a bit and burned a bit on a Skunk/Haze plant, but i think it will recover. I wanted to start using my timer last night to go 18/6 to let them recover a bit and still get some more height before i go 12/12, but while testing the timer; it went to when the light was to come on, but got stuck on the activator that turns the lights on/off? Im not sure if it was my fault setting it up or the timer just isn't any good. I am playing with it now to see what the problem is.

They look ok so far to me, but really am wanting to start to flower soon. If they grow to twice as big as they are by starting flower now, id be happy. I was a bit too generous, giving to much of my summer grow away and had my last doobie last night. But my good friend is giving me back some i gave him, to get me to harvest:thumbsup:. Hes a great friend:thumbsup:

Here are a couple crappy pics of whats goin on:rasta:



Edna's are the plants in 3rd pic, not well seen but on the left.
Last pic is a better Edna pic

Skunk/Haze are the bigger ones in first 2 pics on the right. A seed surprised me late by popping after it had been in the dirt awhile after everything was re potted. One mistake was i didnt grem my seeds at the same time. The extra Skunk/Haze which was just a seed that took a week longer then the other two to pop. But the Edna's i germed later, but they are really doing well.

[Hempsouth]

Those timers can get stuck, test it on a lamp or something first. Spin it a few times to loosen it up.

Your plants are coming along real well.

[headshake]

definitely looking good LSY!

if you are worried about the timer, in the future when you can, pick up one of those 15A timers that you see in pro's grow rooms. i think they can be had for $20-30. just a thought.


-shake

[Hempsouth]

LSY,

Shake's post reminded me, I bougth two of those digital programmable 7 day timers at Home Depot recently. They were on close out for $4 each. If you want one let me know I could mail or ups it to you.

[redtails]

LSY,

Shake's post reminded me, I bougth two of those digital programmable 7 day timers at Home Depot recently. They were on close out for $4 each. If you want one let me know I could mail or ups it to you.

I definitely recommend these, I have a few for various purposes(including plants) and they work great! Best part is you can set like 7 different timers and have em go for any individual day, just the weekdays or weekends, or every day. Plus they have the grounded outlet so you can plug your heavy duty crap in there...Normally like $15-20 it's still cheap.

[Hempsouth]

I like the battery back up that keeps the timer in sync.

[redtails]

My appologies to LSY if it's getting too off topic, but I wish the battery backup were better. I found they sometimes only last for a little bit, and if the circuit gets a surge it'll all reset...quality control issues?

[Hempsouth]

I probably need to change my battery its a year old, but I never had a problem when using a good battery. Mine are Intermatic brand, its plugged into a surge strip, I don't use anything w/o some protection.

[LetsSeeYa]

LSY,

Shake's post reminded me, I bougth two of those digital programmable 7 day timers at Home Depot recently. They were on close out for $4 each. If you want one let me know I could mail or ups it to you.

Hey Hemp thanks a lot man, the thing is you have helped me already so much, ya dont know! Im one not to ask so much from one person, as its like taking advantage of someones kindness. But, this timer is so cheep im sorta afraid to trust it. I know ya got a good deal, but you wouldn't have bought 2 if ya didnt need them? If you can spare it, maybe i could just barrow it in till i can buy one, then return it? Every month i buy something to add to my set up. This month was a 30wter, which blew after about 4-5 days:wtf: im going to try and get it replaced, but will see. Also, i got soil and some new pots. So, i wouldnt be able to get one till next month, which will cause me to veg another month and thats something i just dont want to do. My plans were to change the light from 24/7, only to see the differences in the plant growth and possibly pop out a pistil< optimist. lol.

But, i guess if you could let me use it to grow out these, i could eventually get one and send yours back. I would feel comfortable maybe doing this, if its cool with you.

Also, i want you to know i really thank you for all of the help you have given me. My efforts of an indoor grow would not be half as interesting with out the help you have given me. This is so true! So thank you my friend:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

My appologies to LSY if it's getting too off topic, but I wish the battery backup were better. I found they sometimes only last for a little bit, and if the circuit gets a surge it'll all reset...quality control issues?

Dont worry about it redtails, its what makes for a good learning experience for anyone that reads it, as well as myself:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

I have 3, 2 spares and the one I am using. So it is no big deal to give it away.

Also have 3 of the mechanical timers, which 1 of them is in use on my seedling/veg chamber.

Just let me know I will be glad to send it up to you. I am not wealthy or anything near it but a few bucks for a timer and postage will not hurt my wallet.

[LetsSeeYa]

A few crappy pics

As you see i have a problem, but i think its just over watering. Or, the nutes in the soil are burning them. Without any nutes i thought i would try growing them in this soil. My first indoor grow is for experience for the most part. I know its not a good idea to use this soil, but just getting soil is a task for me and to send someone to get nutes would cause more problems the way im doing my grow. I just plan to not add anything, but maybe molasses. Odds are i think its the over watering issue, as the person helping me, dosnt always do what i ask, but only help i have at this time. No water for a couple days i hope will fix the brown looking leaves at the bottom.

1st pic is 3 Skunk/Haze to the right

2nd is best Skunk/Haze

3rd is Edna



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[Hempsouth]

Its easier to let an overwatered plant recover than it is to try and save a dry one that is about to die.

[senorx12562]

Absolutely. Overwatering is cured by time and patience. It looks to me from the slight yellowing of the bottom leaves like whatever nutes were in the soil to start with might be pretty much gone. You may be starting to have a nitrogen deficiency. Hard to tell though if it's because of overwatering, which can sometimes make it hard for the plants to utilize what is there. You'll have to give them some time to get dried out a little, and if the bottom leaves keep yellowing when your moisture content is back in line, check ph to make sure they aren't locked out. If ph is ok, I think a dilute solution of growth nutes is probably in order. Those soil mixes with nutes do tend to run out of nutes, in my case (Fox Farm Ocean Forest) after about 30 days.

[LetsSeeYa]

Absolutely. Overwatering is cured by time and patience. It looks to me from the slight yellowing of the bottom leaves like whatever nutes were in the soil to start with might be pretty much gone. You may be starting to have a nitrogen deficiency. Hard to tell though if it's because of overwatering, which can sometimes make it hard for the plants to utilize what is there. You'll have to give them some time to get dried out a little, and if the bottom leaves keep yellowing when your moisture content is back in line, check ph to make sure they aren't locked out. If ph is ok, I think a dilute solution of growth nutes is probably in order. Those soil mixes with nutes do tend to run out of nutes, in my case (Fox Farm Ocean Forest) after about 30 days.

Yeah thats the plan my man. It would be much easier if i had a ph test kit but i dont, yet. One bag of soil said it feed for 9 months, which seems a bit much, the next bag was 3 months. Im pretty sure over water, but time will tell:thumbsup: Lockout was my biggest worry using this soil.

Thanks for the advise and stoppin in:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well at 30 days with a over watering problem. At least i think, without a Ph test kit, i cant rule that out. Im going to put a better fan in with them that will help dry em out and give excellent air flow:thumbsup:

2 Edna's on the left and 3 Skunk/Haze on the right.

Iv had a couple grow into the lights and also iv had the lights fall on em twice:wtf:. I need to stop the lights from falling, this is something that should be easy to remedy, you would think:wtf:

So of course i think its slowed my growth. I was getting about 2'' everyday and only got an inch yesterday. I think the plants are concentrating all there energy on fixing its injuries:wtf:



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[Hempsouth]

OK todays picture shows your soil is a little hot. Maybe a flush or re-potting is in order?

[LetsSeeYa]

OK todays picture shows your soil is a little hot. Maybe a flush or re-potting is in order?

Hey Hemp, you mean nute hot? If its over water a flush wouldnt be smart would it? They were still really wet last night, thats why im putting a killer fan in there tonight. If it dosnt, il re pot:wtf:


Oh my good ol pop's paid my bill!



:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

Yes nute burn, when you get crinkling of the leaves with twisting its a good sign of too much. Let them dry out a bit and then flush.

Great deal on the bill. I have the timer in my car but probably will not be able to mail it until Saturday. Have to pick kids up from school this week so no time after work.

[LetsSeeYa]

Yes nute burn, when you get crinkling of the leaves with twisting its a good sign of too much. Let them dry out a bit and then flush.

Great deal on the bill. I have the timer in my car but probably will not be able to mail it until Saturday. Have to pick kids up from school this week so no time after work.

Thanks a lot for the timer man:thumbsup: they need to get taller before i change anything soon, plus i need to work out this issue. I got that twist going on, i was hoping it was like that because it seemed like it was chasing the light. And my ''help'' cant seem to attach the light properly:wtf:.

To me your lights should never fall. I think its something a person can control for sure and not like a nute issue or something, sorta like a lazy thing-should never happen:rasta:

Keep er green :weedpoke:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well, iv been reading all day and i think my problem was over watering. Some have been burned up bad after the light fell on them, but there is new growth and they look better now they have dried out. I will let them almost get bone dry, then water, probably tomorrow. I put a better fan in too.

I think im getting there:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

Oh s*#t I forgot about the light falling, you are right on the watering. Sorry.

Accidents do happen and sometimes it does take some learning as to what works and what doesn't with lights. Those clamp on fixtures do slip off. Many times when you are adjusting the light it slips.

[Charbud]

hope they recover !

[monny10]

Hi LetSeeYa,

What kind of ventillation have you got in your set-up my good man?

Apart from the drying out they look really good! really short and bushy

I was thinking from looking at your photos that it might be wind burn? could that be the cause?

[smello]

:thumbsup:everything should be all right-they'll recover!;)

[LetsSeeYa]

So my buddy took over my grow and i tell him how and what to do. He sent these the other day. I can say they look great after an over watering and lights that fell on them. Also, he had just thought he could grow em like a house plant for a week:wtf:

This would be just at about 47days. They were very stunted by the water/light issue, but they are finally out growing the problem. You can still see damage, but i told him to just make sure that the leaves are getting plenty of light and leave the burned up spots to nature. If i didn't he would have chopped them to bits:wtf:

Don't know when he will send anymore pics because its not his camera:mad:



:rasta:

[headshake]

looking sharp LSY!

i hope you had a great holiday!

-shake

[wingedson]

Hola amigo! Is this grow a Miracle Grow soil setup? I did a thread search for Miracle Grow, couldn't find anything....what kind of nutrient setup are you currently using?

Those plants look healthy, especially after some of the hell they had to handle! As far as I can tell, after my last grow....Cannabis can handle a lot of abuse and still function, as long as she is still in Veg Mode.

[LetsSeeYa]

Hola amigo! Is this grow a Miracle Grow soil setup? I did a thread search for Miracle Grow, couldn't find anything....what kind of nutrient setup are you currently using?

Those plants look healthy, especially after some of the hell they had to handle! As far as I can tell, after my last grow....Cannabis can handle a lot of abuse and still function, as long as she is still in Veg Mode.

The soil was some really cheep stuff. With the cash flow issue i thought id try to get the most for the buck, but understand im not going to get some beauties that iv seen in here. Its a first try inside so its got the basic nutes that come in that cheep soil. I know one bag was expert grower soil, but the other i dont remember. I thought i would just let them grow out w/o adding any nutes at all. I might need a shot of N to get through flower as im not trusting the soil to take care of them for 9 months:wtf:as it said on the bag. But il wait and see, because iv seen to many people use ferts with this type of soil and it just burns them to the point that they die. Some day il have a better cash situation and will step up the game, but basically its a learning thing. If i get an oz or 2 id be thrilled out of 5 plants, but i think thats a bit of a stretch. The over watering first, then the lights fell on them and they were basically grown by my friend as a house plant for a week or so, didn't help. My friend doesnt have a clue, but he seems to think they are all females as he said hes seen pistils. So, yeah not bad for what they have been through. Also, it just aweed:jointsmile:


Thanks for stopping by and dont be a stranger:thumbsup:


:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Hi LetSeeYa,

What kind of ventillation have you got in your set-up my good man?

Apart from the drying out they look really good! really short and bushy

I was thinking from looking at your photos that it might be wind burn? could that be the cause?

Hey monny the fan is fine, if anything it could be stronger. Iv mentioned the issues it went through, but also, sitting on a cold floor i believe stunted them too. So, the whole grow i think is a MG in its self:D

Stop back my man:thumbsup:


:rasta:

[Buffalo Soldier]

wow, great grow for your first indoor........especially with the extenuating circumstances of having other people handle the room.......:thumbsup: very impressive....wish I had friends like yours.....i trust noone...will definitely hang in for the rest of your grow. I have done HID as well as CFL ....I must say the cfl carries less hassles for me........best of luck the rest of the way....


Buffalo:rastasmoke:

[headshake]

can't wait to see what you've got working LSY!

-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

Well i have some pic's today. The week of houseplant life i think stretched em a bit. There is some leaves that need removed, but iv instructed to not pull, cut or remove anything:thumbsup:Added a 30w cfl today, not pictured.

1st Skunk#1/Haze#5, 2nd Edna, 3rd group, 4th Skunk#1/Haze#5, 5th attempt at clone with new growth, :thumbsup:

Will have the leaves chopped where burn is, will do a bit here and there, not all at once. No ferts added as of yet, but when i find my molasses:wtf:, il use every other water, which is about every 4-5 days, or dry an inch or so deep:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[headshake]

looking great LSY! you've come along way. keep up the good work my friend!

-shake

[mainegrown]

looks good LSY.. very nice lil garden
idk how i missed your grow for this long but problem fixed with a simple *subscribed*
gonna read up and see what went down while i was nappin..
-MG

[LetsSeeYa]

Thanks for coming by Shake and MG:thumbsup:. I read a lot, but after summer i sorta had an idea, which iv only grown bonsai trees. Something i love, but it takes years to develop a tree thats ''bonsai'', from something you might find in the wild. But when you find the right one to work with its very rewarding:thumbsup:

Growing Cannabis is so fast with its life cycles, it pulls you in, as its almost like your growing something in slow mosion. All its developments are there to be seen. Its crazy addictive to me. Its better then almost sex and better then some iv had, lmao:D

Keep er green guys:weedpoke:

:rasta:

[redtails]

I def agree man, sometimes it really does feel better than sex! And the effects last a lot longer :D...

[mainegrown]

IDK about better than sex in general but i have had some lousy lays.. and growing is WAY more rewarding than those wastes of time..
and i get something to keep that i dont have to go see a doc to fix :D
lol
-MG

[LetsSeeYa]

IDK about better than sex in general but i have had some lousy lays.. and growing is WAY more rewarding than those wastes of time..
and i get something to keep that i dont have to go see a doc to fix :D
lol
-MG

:giggity: thats some funny shit man:jointsmile:

:rasta:

[senorx12562]

LSY, when do you plan to flower?

[LetsSeeYa]

LSY, when do you plan to flower?

They have started 12/12 at about a week now:thumbsup: 10 days it is:thumbsup:

There is 186w and according to box's 12600 lumen's of light in about 27sq feet. I hope this is enough. I cant find the table i used before to figure out what it would take. I am of course over guessing to the sq feet of the area, but close to 2-3 sq'ed. Maybe someone will chime in?

Thanks for stoppin in Senor:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[mainegrown]

that is more like 6-9 sq ft..
and i think that you might be a lil on the low end but they dont seem to notice but i am thinking that you might not be hurt with a few more bulbs..
just me though.. i am all about the more light never hurts but i am starting to re-think that now...
-MG

[DreadedHermie]

Looking good, my man! :thumbsup:

Hey, LSY--did you ever see that site that stole your first thread and made up phony posters for it? They had quite a lot of the thread up for awhile, but it's trimmed down to the first few posts now. Sarah Louise found it weeks ago...

So i use a chair, dosnt mean i cant grow! - Weed, Cannabis, Pot & Marijuana Growing Forums For World Help (http://www.growchat.com/forum/outdoor-growing/752-so-i-use-chair-dosnt-mean-i-cant-grow.html)

It was a real "WTF?" moment for me...

[smallgrow1]

hey nice grow man. I am currently using only 4 26w cfl's. 2 are daylight bulbs and 2 are soft white bulbs. I have 12 8 inch flowers all in dixie cups bunched together under an aluminum foil wrapped box and there all doin just fine. No stretching and very bushy healthy flowers. I understand that 4 lights doesn't seem like alot but they are all getting lots of light cause of their close proximity to each other plus the confined light reflecting grow area. Of course I am going to be weeding out the males which will leave me with about 6 females hopefully and besides adding 2 more 150w equiv. soft white bulbs I don't think that I am using too little of a light source so I think your doing just fine with your setup. I think that more light is needed when the actual plants are further apart. the fact that my flowers are all within 5-6 inches of each other helps a lot. I am also using mg soil and there only 1.5 weeks into flowering and 4.5 weeks total age from seed. It's funny cause my flowers look better and healthier then other peoples who are using way more light then I am as well as better soil and bigger pots. :thumbsup:

[smallgrow1]

oh also. my grow space is 21" x 16" x 26"(LxWxH) and I have total of 400w of light(4x26w cfl's). I think the fact that my grow space is so small plus being in a small box wrapped with aluminum foil actually makes the small amount of lights I'm using work just fine. it is super bright inside and every plant has a cfl directly above it and to the side of it within 2 inches.

[senorx12562]

:wtf:
Looking good, my man! :thumbsup:

Hey, LSY--did you ever see that site that stole your first thread and made up phony posters for it? They had quite a lot of the thread up for awhile, but it's trimmed down to the first few posts now. Sarah Louise found it weeks ago...

So i use a chair, dosnt mean i cant grow! - Weed, Cannabis, Pot & Marijuana Growing Forums For World Help (http://www.growchat.com/forum/outdoor-growing/752-so-i-use-chair-dosnt-mean-i-cant-grow.html)

It was a real "WTF?" moment for me...
Wow, I feel like I know somebody famous!:wtf:

[headshake]

LSY, if you have 12600 lumes in a 6-9 sq ft area then you are okay. you want a minimum of 5000 lumens per sq ft normally though. so if you can shove more light in great, if not, let it ride and see what happens!



oh also. my grow space is 21" x 16" x 26"(LxWxH) and I have total of 400w of light(4x26w cfl's). I think the fact that my grow space is so small plus being in a small box wrapped with aluminum foil actually makes the small amount of lights I'm using work just fine. it is super bright inside and every plant has a cfl directly above it and to the side of it within 2 inches.

i think you have a lot more reading to do. how do you figure that you have 400W of light if 4*26= 104W? also, aluminum foil is not the best choice to use for reflecting light. i hope you are at least using the dull side. you would be better off using flat white paint. and if your plants are better than most around here then start a log.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

Looking good, my man! :thumbsup:

Hey, LSY--did you ever see that site that stole your first thread and made up phony posters for it? They had quite a lot of the thread up for awhile, but it's trimmed down to the first few posts now. Sarah Louise found it weeks ago...

So i use a chair, dosnt mean i cant grow! - Weed, Cannabis, Pot & Marijuana Growing Forums For World Help (http://www.growchat.com/forum/outdoor-growing/752-so-i-use-chair-dosnt-mean-i-cant-grow.html)

It was a real "WTF?" moment for me...

:wtf:So what the heck is going on with this? Is this a new site thats maybe trying to look like people use it? I had a few hits on it, but what i saw there was little there. I wonder how long this has been up on that site? I should have put a patten on it or something, lol. They could of ask, but i would have said NO. No one on that site helped me, it was here i worked out the issues and they have no rights to it. There were plenty of better grows on that section then mine, so:wtf:

:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

LSY, if you have 12600 lumes in a 6-9 sq ft area then you are okay. you want a minimum of 5000 lumens per sq ft normally though. so if you can shove more light in great, if not, let it ride and see what happens!




i think you have a lot more reading to do. how do you figure that you have 400W of light if 4*26= 104W? also, aluminum foil is not the best choice to use for reflecting light. i hope you are at least using the dull side. you would be better off using flat white paint. and if your plants are better than most around here then start a log.


-shake

Hey Shake thanks for stopping by. I think im ok at this point, but as they get taller i might try to drop some side lighting to help the under growth. If not i think it would yield only nice colas. It all depends on the cash flow my friend.

:rasta:

[headshake]

Hey Shake thanks for stopping by. I think im ok at this point, but as they get taller i might try to drop some side lighting to help the under growth. If not i think it would yield only nice colas. It all depends on the cash flow my friend.

:rasta:

i completely understand my friend. i have struggled with cash flow since i started this hobby. i hope to upgrade my veg lighting here pretty soon. if i do i might have a light to get rid of. i'll keep you updated.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

:wtf:
Wow, I feel like I know somebody famous!:wtf:

That site is only trying to copy this one. Its set up just like this one is only there is only a few people that use it. This ''irahat'' took the beginning of the thread and didnt even show any pics. And if anything, i know i have some nice pic's in there. If i was going to steal a thread, i would put up a few of the killer pics i had in there.

I feel dirty:sadcrying

lol, :rasta:

[headshake]

That site is only trying to copy this one. Its set up just like this one is only there is only a few people that use it. This ''irahat'' took the beginning of the thread and didnt even show any pics. And if anything, i know i have some nice pic's in there. If i was going to steal a thread, i would put up a few of the killer pics i had in there.

I feel dirty:sadcrying

lol, :rasta:

go scrub yourself you dirty whore!

j/k!

lmao!


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

go scrub yourself you dirty whore!

j/k!

lmao!


-shake

Thanks a lot Shake. With my living situation, that is the issue. When you have people who are on the mortgage and dont want to pay for the important things, well theres the problem. Its great out here in the middle of no place. But i see a change in environment soon:thumbsup:,il be all indoor then. So i would have to step up the technique for sure:thumbsup:. But im think outdoor for one more go at it:jointsmile:

Thanks my man, oh and that shower helped, lol

:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

That is kinda freaky using your thread and title somewhere else.

[LetsSeeYa]

That is kinda freaky using your thread and title somewhere else.

Hey Hemp it sure was especially when there was a guy on there with 20' monsters. If i was him, i would have choose the monster grow to copy:wtf: Then theres the whole ''chair'' thing. But there wasnt any response from anyone but this site on the thread. Looks like a middle east site to me, but you might think they would have better things to do?

Thanks for stopping and that strain info was very interesting:thumbsup:

The Shadow Haze is the bomb for sure. For me its good for night or day and great pain relief!

[psychodelic]

It had to be the mods or creators of the site that did that. trying to get traffic to their website. Your 1st thread got a lot of traffic, they were trying to duplicate it

I'm adding that website to the list of "Blacklisted" websites. Don't be surprised if that website suddenly "goes under" sometime soon ;)

(the Internet Moderators work in mysterious ways...)

[LetsSeeYa]

It had to be the mods or creators of the site that did that. trying to get traffic to their website. Your 1st thread got a lot of traffic, they were trying to duplicate it

I'm adding that website to the list of "Blacklisted" websites. Don't be surprised if that website suddenly "goes under" sometime soon ;)

(the Internet Moderators work in mysterious ways...)

Man Psych ya really need to use a different quote, because i saw that in a thread and with its context, it was fine. But reading it as your quote a cant stop laughing:D i mean like rolling around on my back like a dog scratches his back funny, lol

:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Oh yeah i think i have a hermy:wtf: but not surprised at all. Sucks cuz 5 out of 5 was a good fem rate. I plucked a couple balls which could have been leaves, but just not developed yet.

Its different inside, because it seems the plant development is slow as to compare to outside it seems to me. But iv heard that the calyx can swell up to appear to look like a ball. Il find out later sometime what i have and if anything it will only give me more room:thumbsup:


:rasta:

[mainegrown]

that is always discouraging.. its always too bad to have
to cut a plant BUT if you really think that its hermie
then chop her/him down.. i am now having seed problems all ovah the place!!

good luck and best wishes

~MG

[LetsSeeYa]

MG I just posted on your thread, might be ideal for you:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Oh yeah i think i have a hermy:wtf: but not surprised at all. Sucks cuz 5 out of 5 was a good fem rate. I plucked a couple balls which could have been leaves, but just not developed yet.

Its different inside, because it seems the plant development is slow as to compare to outside it seems to me. But iv heard that the calyx can swell up to appear to look like a ball. Il find out later sometime what i have and if anything it will only give me more room:thumbsup:


:rasta:
If you got 5 of 5 from seed, I guess that's Karma making a last ditch effort to balance you out you greedy sumbitch.

[LetsSeeYa]

If you got 5 of 5 from seed, I guess that's Karma making a last ditch effort to balance you out you greedy sumbitch.

lmao senor, i guess i did get greedy, as i only put 6 seeds in the dirt:thumbsup: But with my luck im due a bit of good karma:jointsmile:

:weedpoke:

:rasta:

[senorx12562]

lmao senor, i guess i did get greedy, as i only put 6 seeds in the dirt:thumbsup: But with my luck im due a bit of good karma:jointsmile:

:weedpoke:

:rasta:
If I prayed, I'd say one for ya.

[headshake]

lmao senor, i guess i did get greedy, as i only put 6 seeds in the dirt:thumbsup: But with my luck im due a bit of good karma:jointsmile:

:weedpoke:

:rasta:

isn't luck the exact opposite of karma?! just struck me as funny as i read this.

how are things going LSY?


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

I know there bad pics but its all i have gotten. I cant tell for sure, as inside it seems to me at least they grow slow? Im thinking chop it if i dont get any in put:rasta:

Looks like male flowers, but well

[senorx12562]

Looks suspiciously like the ones I just killed. Sorry man.

[psychodelic]

Sorry to say it looks male...but don't chop yet. Even if it is male, you won't have to worry about pollen for awhile. People tend to overreact when they think they have a male and chop it down immediately. I don't know why. The male parts will become clear well before you would have to worry about pollen. Give it another 7-10 days to be sure.

BTW, Senor...I fucking envy your growroom. I would love to do something like that in the future, but I'd be in the doghouse indefinitely with my wife.

[LetsSeeYa]

Sorry to say it looks male...but don't chop yet. Even if it is male, you won't have to worry about pollen for awhile. People tend to overreact when they think they have a male and chop it down immediately. I don't know why. The male parts will become clear well before you would have to worry about pollen. Give it another 7-10 days to be sure.

BTW, Senor...I fucking envy your growroom. I would love to do something like that in the future, but I'd be in the doghouse indefinitely with my wife.

Yeah i know what your saying man. I see pistils on the plant so its likely a hermy. But, i could gain by chopping it, because it will give more light to space. This way il have less the amount of space needed. I may have him move it out of the area, to get only a bit of light to see what happens with it. Then the others should have a better yield with the light concentrating only on the ''good'' ones. I wonder if i could eat it or something. Make brownies maybe. I have only tried em once, i really like them. It was very effective for my pain issues and lasted two time longer.

I want to move to Michigan. Laws have changed and would like to be involved in growing with someone,who really knows what their doing. Plus i could make money doing what i like. I just dont know where to begin. Heck id move to any MMJ state, but dont have a clue how to begin the process. Money isnt the problem once in out of here:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[headshake]

I know there bad pics but its all i have gotten. I cant tell for sure, as inside it seems to me at least they grow slow? Im thinking chop it if i dont get any in put:rasta:

Looks like male flowers, but well

it's a male (or hermi as you stated). a good way to tell a male without having to look for balls that could get confused with calyxes is to look at the tips of the branches. they will start to get thick and hard (like a female bud, but much quicker). they will look kinda like little pine cones.


Sorry to say it looks male...but don't chop yet. Even if it is male, you won't have to worry about pollen for awhile. People tend to overreact when they think they have a male and chop it down immediately. I don't know why. The male parts will become clear well before you would have to worry about pollen. Give it another 7-10 days to be sure.

BTW, Senor...I fucking envy your growroom. I would love to do something like that in the future, but I'd be in the doghouse indefinitely with my wife.

it doesn't take very long at all for a male to open up a flower on you. it can happen as soon as 2 weeks after you flip them to 12/12. it doesn't have to grow large male flowers up top for their to be pollen. usually ones down around the middle of the plant will open up first. they can easily be missed. i've learned this the hard way!!!!


LSY, so fine a MMJ state you would love to live in and go for it. there are currenlty 14 of them!


-shake

[psychodelic]

Yeah i know what your saying man. I see pistils on the plant so its likely a hermy. But, i could gain by chopping it, because it will give more light to space. This way il have less the amount of space needed. I may have him move it out of the area, to get only a bit of light to see what happens with it. Then the others should have a better yield with the light concentrating only on the ''good'' ones. I wonder if i could eat it or something. Make brownies maybe. I have only tried em once, i really like them. It was very effective for my pain issues and lasted two time longer.

I want to move to Michigan. Laws have changed and would like to be involved in growing with someone,who really knows what their doing. Plus i could make money doing what i like. I just dont know where to begin. Heck id move to any MMJ state, but dont have a clue how to begin the process. Money isnt the problem once in out of here:thumbsup:

:rasta:

If you haven't started flowering yet, definitely don't chop it if you see pistils. I could be wrong, but I don't think that plants go hermie when they are that young. I think your plan of moving it sounds good.

I don't chop my hermies, because they are still smokable. I let my hermies keep flowering, and I just pickoff the nanners when they show up. It still flowers and develops trichs. It's good "filler" in joints, or you can extract whatever THC is there using alcohol.

I recently moved from Michigan, although I wasn't involved with smoking or growing, so I never cared about MMJ laws. Despite being a MMJ friendly state, I would not encourage anyone to move to Michgan. The economy is dong very poor, and Jennifer Granolm is a terrible governor. Educators (teachers, etc.) are losing health coverage, the money is going towards the elderly population instead of the children and schools, where it should be. I could continue, but no need for a political rant in your thread, haha :)

You got my e-mail, lemme know if i can help

[senorx12562]

If you haven't started flowering yet, definitely don't chop it if you see pistils. I could be wrong, but I don't think that plants go hermie when they are that young. I think your plan of moving it sounds good.

I don't chop my hermies, because they are still smokable. I let my hermies keep flowering, and I just pickoff the nanners when they show up. It still flowers and develops trichs. It's good "filler" in joints, or you can extract whatever THC is there using alcohol.

I recently moved from Michigan, although I wasn't involved with smoking or growing, so I never cared about MMJ laws. Despite being a MMJ friendly state, I would not encourage anyone to move to Michgan. The economy is dong very poor, and Jennifer Granolm is a terrible governor. Educators (teachers, etc.) are losing health coverage, the money is going towards the elderly population instead of the children and schools, where it should be. I could continue, but no need for a political rant in your thread, haha :)

You got my e-mail, lemme know if i can help
...and its fucking cold.

[LetsSeeYa]

If you haven't started flowering yet, definitely don't chop it if you see pistils. I could be wrong, but I don't think that plants go hermie when they are that young. I think your plan of moving it sounds good.

I don't chop my hermies, because they are still smokable. I let my hermies keep flowering, and I just pickoff the nanners when they show up. It still flowers and develops trichs. It's good "filler" in joints, or you can extract whatever THC is there using alcohol.

I recently moved from Michigan, although I wasn't involved with smoking or growing, so I never cared about MMJ laws. Despite being a MMJ friendly state, I would not encourage anyone to move to Michgan. The economy is dong very poor, and Jennifer Granolm is a terrible governor. Educators (teachers, etc.) are losing health coverage, the money is going towards the elderly population instead of the children and schools, where it should be. I could continue, but no need for a political rant in your thread, haha :)

You got my e-mail, lemme know if i can help

Hey i think i might have figured out how to multy quote:thumbsup: Well psych i was picking off nanners but they are just coming back. And if i had them closer to me to do what needs done i might take your advise, but it is a hermy and i also could use the space. So, im going to chop it and do something with it. I am out again, so il smoke it, as my first ever grow was 2 big hermys, but i didnt even know it at the time and wasnt really to bad. The taste was nasty for sure but i smoked the entire plant. It lasted 4 months for me too. By doing this, it will create a more watt/lumen/space, for the others, so i should maybe do a bit better with it gone, plus i need the smoke, iv been awake for two days:wtf: and that sucks. I havent looked at my mail, as i just came from my Doc, but il get with ya my man:thumbsup:


it's a male (or hermi as you stated). a good way to tell a male without having to look for balls that could get confused with calyxes is to look at the tips of the branches. they will start to get thick and hard (like a female bud, but much quicker). they will look kinda like little pine cones.



it doesn't take very long at all for a male to open up a flower on you. it can happen as soon as 2 weeks after you flip them to 12/12. it doesn't have to grow large male flowers up top for their to be pollen. usually ones down around the middle of the plant will open up first. they can easily be missed. i've learned this the hard way!!!!


LSY, so fine a MMJ state you would love to live in and go for it. there are currenlty 14 of them!


-shake

Thanks Shake:thumbsup:. Perfect advise, because im not sure if the tips are hard, but that big ass male i grew last summer was just as you described. This plant has lots of pistils and looks female, but i think all the stress made it go hermy. But, not a big deal, like i said it will open up light an more space for me, plus im going to smoke the bastard, or make brownies. I am not sure which might give me more?

And as far as the MMJ state, i would really hate to move to Mich. but its the closest to me. I would rather go west, maybe pay senorx a visit, i hate the damn cold too:(. After just going to my Doc. today its going to take 4-5 hours for my core temp to get back to normal, but i cant get over heated either, spinal cord thing really mess's up the control center:(, but im used to it. Heck May 4th it will be 25 years in a chair. Some people say ''i couldn't do it'', but thats crap, it may seem odd to hear but sometimes it makes life more of a challenge, which makes it more interesting:D thats no shit. I one time was in a bar and this chick looks at me and says ''so, how are you?'' and im like ''GREAT'', she then says, with her head cocked, ''no really'':wtf: People have a surviver mode in them and its not discoverd until its needed, which some people will never need to, but this is why people cant get, or understand the,'' im great'' thing. Sorry i got a bit off topic, but for some reason felt like putting it out there, ya learn something new everyday my mom would say and maybe i gave that something with this thought, who knows:hippy:

:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

...and its fucking cold.

Hey senor i wasnt trying to duck ya, i just wasnt sure how to do the multi post thing. But il be, it worked:thumbsup:

BTW if ya ever grow outside, its so much easier to sex a plant, at least IMO:thumbsup:

Never know i might just knock on your door some day, if i ever find away to get out of this state:thumbsup:

:buzz_saw: its done

:rasta:

[psychodelic]

Heck May 4th it will be 25 years in a chair. Some people say ''i couldn't do it'', but thats crap, it may seem odd to hear but sometimes it makes life more of a challenge, which makes it more interesting:D thats no shit. I one time was in a bar and this chick looks at me and says ''so, how are you?'' and im like ''GREAT'', she then says, with her head cocked, ''no really'':wtf: People have a surviver mode in them and its not discoverd until its needed, which some people will never need to, but this is why people cant get, or understand the,'' im great'' thing. Sorry i got a bit off topic, but for some reason felt like putting it out there, ya learn something new everyday my mom would say and maybe i gave that something with this thought, who knows:hippy:

:rasta:

Yeah man, it's just a chair, it's not who you are. If you told me you were "great" I'd say, "Well I'm fucking stressed!! So let's smoke a fatty!" We are all just people, we gotta play whatever hand we're dealt. It takes some people longer than others to realize that once you accept things that can't be changed, and you can enjoy life more when you stop feeling sorry for yourself and others. Everything's relative....and everything can be solved with a nice fatty :rastasmoke:

[LetsSeeYa]

Yeah man, it's just a chair, it's not who you are. If you told me you were "great" I'd say, "Well I'm fucking stressed!! So let's smoke a fatty!" We are all just people, we gotta play whatever hand we're dealt. It takes some people longer than others to realize that once you accept things that can't be changed, and you can enjoy life more when you stop feeling sorry for yourself and others. Everything's relative....and everything can be solved with a nice fatty :rastasmoke:

Psych, i couldnt have put it any better myself:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[Charbud]

More pics !!! haha

[LetsSeeYa]

More pics !!! haha

LMAO, Yeah Charbud i guess i do owe ya dont i. As soon as i get some il make sure that no one clicks on them before you, so you are the first:thumbsup: lol But i gotta get them sent to me first, so asap:jointsmile:

:rasta:

[Charbud]

lol, good to hear there coming !

:rastasmoke:

[LetsSeeYa]

lol, good to hear there coming !

:rastasmoke:

But thats just it, there not coming at all. I think im just no indoor grower. Cheap ass nute added soil, over watered. Not to mention they grew as a house plant for a week.

But i hear they grow an inch or so each day, but i want premo buds like you. I think a 600hps for flower and use the cfl's for veg and maybe side lighting. Better soil and quality nutes would be great. Now i only need to hit 6 numbers on the lotto lol:rasta:

[headshake]

don't get down on yourself LSY. think about when you first started growing. you've come along way. outdoors, you didn't have as many variables; indoors you do. don't fret though, i know ya've got it in your bones you ol' bonai growing SOB!

you've got the genetics. TAKE CLONES! worry about getting some good dirt. it doesn't have to be expensive, just quality. MG will work fine, or shutlz or any other brand you can find locally.

then just keep adding pieces to your grow. you will get there. don't worry about the HPS for now. do your thing with the CFLs. like i said, i should be getting a new t-5 rig soon for veg, so i will have a franken-light for CFLs sitting around with no use. (hint, hint!) also, i have recently switched nutes. i happen to have some fox farm stuff that i probably won't be using anymore. it's mostly just the soluble powders, which can be used as standalones. you should be able to pick up the liquids for not that much if you decided to/can. whadya think? BTW, i'm not sending soil, that shit is way too heavy to ship!!!

keep ya chin up.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

don't get down on yourself LSY. think about when you first started growing. you've come along way. outdoors, you didn't have as many variables; indoors you do. don't fret though, i know ya've got it in your bones you ol' bonai growing SOB!

you've got the genetics. TAKE CLONES! worry about getting some good dirt. it doesn't have to be expensive, just quality. MG will work fine, or shutlz or any other brand you can find locally.

then just keep adding pieces to your grow. you will get there. don't worry about the HPS for now. do your thing with the CFLs. like i said, i should be getting a new t-5 rig soon for veg, so i will have a franken-light for CFLs sitting around with no use. (hint, hint!) also, i have recently switched nutes. i happen to have some fox farm stuff that i probably won't be using anymore. it's mostly just the soluble powders, which can be used as standalones. you should be able to pick up the liquids for not that much if you decided to/can. whadya think? BTW, i'm not sending soil, that shit is way too heavy to ship!!!

keep ya chin up.


-shake

Yeah Shake you are right, I jumped in without being ready. Most of my issue's were due this mistake. I can try and collect materials this summer for next go around. Also, need to make a grow box. I need to take care of them and not rely on someone else to do what i say. They really don't understand and the plants pay for it. I gotta say though that the fert added soil is doing me ok, not that i would use it again. But if a person just doesnt add nutes to it and for the most part, keep em dry, its been ok:thumbsup:. But watering to much activates the nutes added, then ya have a Ph problem. Not that iv checked the Ph, but no real signs; tell tail issues for me to think there was any Ph problems. But as next year comes, i hope to get what i need before gemming any beans. Lesson learned:thumbsup:. When 2 people who started at about the same time, have basically the same sort of set up and are curing now and looks like i have a month or so to go can be discouraging. But, i do have confidence for outdoor methods. You, irydyum, Italiano, psych and so many others gave me the basics to understand how the plant grows outside:) I thought i could take this indoors, but like you said, there are different variables to deal with indoors. But, with the lesson learned, i believe with the supplies needed and a place where i can get to, i would be good to go next go-around:thumbsup:

But i want to thank you for the confidence you have in me. Coming from you means a lot. As, some of the more experienced growers, sometime forget that they at one time were newbies too. Not a lot of them, at least on this site, but there are a few. Thats why i stay here and can count on finding information and if i cant, there is almost always someone out there who will help and you have been a constant, which i appreciate:thumbsup:

Oh and yeah, im not afraid of using left-over goods for sure. I have seen what they have done for you, so using equipment you've used would be like a confident kick:thumbsup: Also, id like to say its very kind of you Shake:thumbsup: iv always said your a good dude but this is just overwhelming to think of the monsters you got with that equipment. LOL ,No excuses then, geez i would feel like the expectation's would be way high:jointsmile: OH and i found that funny; can ya see the mail dude tryin to get a bail of soil in my box, lol yeah i know that wouldnt happen, but when i read your post, it was the first thing that came to mind. My step-dad has made his own soil for over 20 years. I have great soil here, so i thought about baking some up and start a compost pile. Just as a base, then add to it. This land was never farmed, it only ever had cattle on it. Makes for great outdoor grows:thumbsup:

Thanks Shake:hippy:

:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well till i get better pics, this is whats going on so far:thumbsup:

I think these are the Skunk, or Haze plants, i know the 2nd is because the pot is to small, which made the leaves really small at about the middle of the plant. Reminds me of how a bonsai is created, with the leaves growing to the size of the pot. If any, i think the buds will be very small, but hoping dense and good shit:hippy: Just noticed that 1st is Edna:thumbsup:

Sorry about quality of the pics, iv been told that il get better ones in the next couple of days:rasta:

[headshake]

looking really good LSY!

-shake

[mainegrown]

well as long as you give em the right lumens then they will be fu*king huge..
plant that big HAS to have big buds.. IMO
~MG

[LetsSeeYa]

Last pic and 2nd plant Edna, i didn't brake root ball up, but just a tad to plant. Plant in same pic on left is Skunk 1/Haze 5.

First is Edna i broke up root ball and put into pot. See the difference. The bigger one i didn't brake up the root ball.

Middle is Edna top.

I did this on purpose, for experiment and wow, big difference:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Here are the genetics for Edna :hippy:

Edna male(Durban, Afghani, Skunk & an unknown Sativa) pollenated a
BR1947= Blueberry x White Rhino and Peak19 x AK-47. The BR1947 was a cross of Blueberry male & White Rhino female which pollenated the
Peak19xAK47 female. I really want to try this in the ground for sure, the two were planted 2 weeks after the others, but out growing them all.

But with issues its not easy to say whats better, because i think the genetics of each seed is different, so one could have a better survival mode in the genetics of the seed?

Also, i thing that i have Haze #5, only because of the smell. It could be the cross, but my money is on the Haze #5. I guess we will find out in a year or so, when their done :cool:


:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well there is 4 23w 27k lights added, so this puts watts at 278. From a thread i read this puts the lumens at 19,432.2 @69.9 lumens per watt if im correct here:hippy:

So with crappy pics again, sorry, this is whats going on:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[senorx12562]

They look very healthy and appetizing. You should be able to get at least a couple ozs. This time just don't be so generous.

[psychodelic]

This time just don't be so generous.

Second that

[LetsSeeYa]

They look very healthy and appetizing. You should be able to get at least a couple ozs. This time just don't be so generous.

Well Senorx i really think thats an over estimate. Im thinking if i get lucky maybe a 1/2, which i could stretch out for a month or two maybe:S2:


Second that

Thanks for the confidence psych but :S2: i think its a pretty big guesstimate

But thanks guys:rasta:

[headshake]

i think you'll get more than a 1/2 out of them.

-shake

[Hempsouth]

All things considered they are looking very good.

[crf70rider]

how many do you think i should bud with cfls and how long are you gonna leave your plants?

[psychodelic]

how many do you think i should bud with cfls and how long are you gonna leave your plants?

You've got 68 posts, you should know 1) everyone is going to tell you to check the growing forums for info, and 2) it ain't cool to threadjack.

[LetsSeeYa]

how many do you think i should bud with cfls and how long are you gonna leave your plants?

crf, what happen to your last grow? To answer your question, the more cfl's the better, so as many as will fit in your grow area. As far as mine, well when there done. Takes longer with cfl's, but you can get it done for sure:jointsmile:

:rasta:

[crf70rider]

i got rid of most of them for a scooter to go to school and back and the ones i kept there was out 12 plants i got two females and i had some buba kush and the five of themare at my budys but right now i got some going ill post pics i hope nobody gonna get mad i got 2 4ft t8 shop lights a 2ft single t12 and 5 cfls shold i make another grow log wuld anyone care bout my girls?

[LetsSeeYa]

i got rid of most of them for a scooter to go to school and back and the ones i kept there was out 12 plants i got two females and i had some buba kush and the five of themare at my budys but right now i got some going ill post pics i hope nobody gonna get mad i got 2 4ft t8 shop lights a 2ft single t12 and 5 cfls shold i make another grow log wuld anyone care bout my girls?

I dont care if ya post here, but you might get more help if ya had your own thread:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well no ferts as of yet. You can see the the lights are burning them enough so far. The plants are green, but i have a couple leaves that are yellow from getting to much light, or rather to much heat. Plus the light needs moved. I just wanted to put that out there, because i know. I dont have a clue as to when they will be done. I guess when the buds are big, lol The Edna buds are tight, but were in 2 weeks after the others. I will only put nutes in if i start to see yellow at the middle or bottom part of the plant. But thinking a very small dose, just for growth and it would be only about 1/4 dose:hippy:

The bud in last pic in the back will be the best im hoping, its the Edna, time to getter on bro's:stoned:
:rasta:

[Charbud]

whats up man. havent checked your grow in a while ! your girls are coming along very well ! really try get that side lighting in because my buds on the side of my plant were real small. Wouldnt want you to have the same problem !

all the best

[LetsSeeYa]

whats up man. havent checked your grow in a while ! your girls are coming along very well ! really try get that side lighting in because my buds on the side of my plant were real small. Wouldnt want you to have the same problem !

all the best

Hey Charbud, i do have one side light if you look in first pick at the bottom. I have em move it around from side to side and front to back. Also the plants are sorta spindly and the light penetrates well. I have more lights then i thought i would have had, but splurged and then put myself in a bad way for cash, so thats whats going on till picking time. Its just going to take some time is all, but it will be ready for my outdoor as soon as everything is done, il get a couple mothers for outdoor clones and plants..Il only need to be ready by the end of May:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[DOUGAL25]

i think you'll get more than a 1/2 out of them.

-shake

My guess is around 2 oz's...

Closest guess gets a sample?!?!?haha just kidding
:stoned:

[senorx12562]

:dance:Brother, don't get down man. Like I said before, we all just do the best we can with what we have. I think you're doin' a great job, and if I was close, we'd blow a # and talk about the old times that neither of us were around for.

[LetsSeeYa]

:dance:Brother, don't get down man. Like I said before, we all just do the best we can with what we have. I think you're doin' a great job, and if I was close, we'd blow a # and talk about the old times that neither of us were around for.

Yeah i here ya senorx and im cool, its just going to take longer. If i only had someone to put the lights where they should be, they would be close and not all burned up. My next go-round if i cant take care of them then il wait till i can. Because everyone has an opinion an this one doesnt want to do what i say. The lights are way off whack, but they will get done soon and i can start getting ready for this summer, then il be growin:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[headshake]

Well no ferts as of yet.

yo, LSY, i've got some nutes for ya, if ya want them. they are fox farm. i've got about a 1/5 of a bottle of tiger bloom and an almost full bottle of grow big soil. i've also got all three of the soluble powder additives, cha ching, beastie blooms and open sesame.

i figure that if you had most of the stuff you might be able to get a bottle of big bloom, then in a month or so a new bottle of tiger bloom. also, i've got a PH meter that was given to me. it's not the best, but it works. it just needs calibration often.

so it's up to you. they are yours for the taking of you want them. just let me know.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

yo, LSY, i've got some nutes for ya, if ya want them. they are fox farm. i've got about a 1/5 of a bottle of tiger bloom and an almost full bottle of grow big soil. i've also got all three of the soluble powder additives, cha ching, beastie blooms and open sesame.

i figure that if you had most of the stuff you might be able to get a bottle of big bloom, then in a month or so a new bottle of tiger bloom. also, i've got a PH meter that was given to me. it's not the best, but it works. it just needs calibration often.

so it's up to you. they are yours for the taking of you want them. just let me know.


-shake


Wow Shake that would be great man:thumbsup: Whats funny is i was looking at at a site you had recommended to someone the other day. It seems complicated, but im sure after working with them i could catch on. Also, iv seen what they have done for you, so id love to use them, if you can swing it. I think i was looking at the tiger bloom, well same stuff but different brand. I was thinking it would do the same thing is what im saying i guess. Soon il have a bit more cash, as im thinking of moving in a couple people. Heck iv got plenty of room and it might push out the person thats here now. Then i will be cool, but may not happen till Aug. But its all good, iv got a plan in motion. I use yahoo mail, so shoot me one over and il give ya the info:thumbsup: My privacy setting only lets my friends in, so you can get my email in the yahoo messenger, but i think you could figure it out. lol

BTW, you think i should add a bit of N to get them through flower? All i have is 20-30-20, i think i used it outside. I was just thinking it might help bud growth. Everything is green, but the burned parts and that was from the lights not set up correctly. I just dont want them to go through any stress. Id use about 1/4 strength and only one time, so whats your thinking. I am not sure what you have to gift me would help. I guess the big bloom, but not sure if i should wait or add what i have. Its been about 80 days from sprout and i have at least 5,000 lumen's per sq foot with 278 watts, which i believe they should be doing better. I thought the floor was making them cold, but have fixed this, but no real tell of a difference. So, im not sure what to do, because they are healthy and green, just slow. Any ideas let me know what you think and you can send an email, il get you my info.

Again thanks Shake, your a good dude my man:hippy:

:rasta:

[Jennylynnm6280]

I don't know if this is the place to ask questions about my plants but I need a good opinion on my plant growth. I have 5 plants growing. I have identified one of them as female because there are a few white hairs coming out of the top of the plant. The plants are aprox. 6-7 weeks old. The fan leaves have all dried up and fallen off. The stems are super long. And the plants total height is about one foot. Is that bad for being 6-7 weeks old? shouldnt they be taller with less lenghly stems? And I have no idea why the leaves dried up and fell off. This is my very first grow. So im kinda in the dark about some things. Can someone help me out with this? thank you.

[LetsSeeYa]

Just a few more bad pic's, but wanted an update for those of you that have been popping in. Yeah its probably the slowest grow iv ever seen, but at least there still growing. So far i like the Edna's, which are the ones with the least amount of buds, but they will come on soon. Im thinking about a bit of nutes here soon, only to get them a kick into flowering. Just seems to need it to me. But first timer with home made lighting/ or inside.lol:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

I don't know if this is the place to ask questions about my plants but I need a good opinion on my plant growth. I have 5 plants growing. I have identified one of them as female because there are a few white hairs coming out of the top of the plant. The plants are aprox. 6-7 weeks old. The fan leaves have all dried up and fallen off. The stems are super long. And the plants total height is about one foot. Is that bad for being 6-7 weeks old? shouldnt they be taller with less lenghly stems? And I have no idea why the leaves dried up and fell off. This is my very first grow. So im kinda in the dark about some things. Can someone help me out with this? thank you.

To help you we need a pic and more information for sure. Did the leaves all fall at once, have the plants been transplanted in a big enough pot. What kind of plants are they as some lose there leaves earlier then others. See there is so much info left out, its hard to tell. What kind of light, nutes, also some plants grow taller then others. But, If i had to guess id bet your plants are root bound, but that is without any info, so put a pic up and let us know how you take care of it:rasta:

[Jennylynnm6280]

Yes the leaves all fell off at once about a week ago. The plants have not been transplanted at all, They are in the original pot they were planted in. But it is a big enough pot, The pot is 9" wide and 8 " tall. To be honest I do not know what kind of plants they are. I got the seeds from a friend. As per lights I am using a 400 watt, 4 foot flourescent light. And a basic 2 foot grow light that I have about 2 inches above the plant. I have a fan in there for oxygen but I do not have it directed towards the plants because they blow around too much. I also have aluminum foil lining the sides of the closet so the light can bounce off and hit all areas of the plant. It is about 80-85 degrees in the closet. I water them once every 2-3 days. And once a day I rotate them as well. I will get a picture soon and post it. Thanks

[LetsSeeYa]

Yes the leaves all fell off at once about a week ago. The plants have not been transplanted at all, They are in the original pot they were planted in. But it is a big enough pot, The pot is 9" wide and 8 " tall. To be honest I do not know what kind of plants they are. I got the seeds from a friend. As per lights I am using a 400 watt, 4 foot flourescent light. And a basic 2 foot grow light that I have about 2 inches above the plant. I have a fan in there for oxygen but I do not have it directed towards the plants because they blow around too much. I also have aluminum foil lining the sides of the closet so the light can bounce off and hit all areas of the plant. It is about 80-85 degrees in the closet. I water them once every 2-3 days. And once a day I rotate them as well. I will get a picture soon and post it. Thanks

Well its what i thought. You cant plant more then one plant in a pot. If i were you and i would do this yesterday, is re pot them in separate pots. Thats the only thing you can do IMO to keep them alive. Weed plants have ton's of roots and that size of pot there in, there is no way they will grow. The pot is good for one plant and thats it, what you see above ground you will see below ground, so whats happened is they are fighting for room in there. So, like i said id re pot them in there own pot asap. Your going to need to slide them out into a tub of water and try an untangle the roots. You might loss some, but better then all of them. I hope they are still in veg. cuz your odds are better, but must be done or they will just continue to loose leaves till there gone and the leaves are what keeps the plant alive.

Good luck and let me know how it comes out. Oh and plant them deep as roots will shoot out the stem:rasta:

[Jennylynnm6280]

That makes sense. I will do that now and let you know tomorrow or in a few days how it worked out. Thanks so much because to be honest I had no clue you could do that. Thanks again. It was a big help!!:thumbsup:

[Jennylynnm6280]

Well, I tried what you said to do and low and behold my plants are dying :( I woke up this morning and all the leaves were dropping down. Oh well, I will have to read up more and start a new batch. Thank you for your advice though. :rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well, I tried what you said to do and low and behold my plants are dying :( I woke up this morning and all the leaves were dropping down. Oh well, I will have to read up more and start a new batch. Thank you for your advice though. :rasta:

Well i never said thats all ya gotta do. Give them time to grow roots and establish itself in there new pots. Just water and keep under lights and new growth should start:rasta:

[Jennylynnm6280]

Oh ok I thought they were done for lol. So what do I do now? Just treat them the same and wait for them to get stronger again? The stems are still standing straight but all the leaves are all drooping down. Does this mean they are not dead or or not going to die? Thanks:jointsmile:

[LetsSeeYa]

Oh ok I thought they were done for lol. So what do I do now? Just treat them the same and wait for them to get stronger again? The stems are still standing straight but all the leaves are all drooping down. Does this mean they are not dead or or not going to die? Thanks:jointsmile:

You really need to do some reading. I cant say if your plants will make it or not, but they have a better chance in there own pot.

After transplanting did you water them? If so great, now just keep an eye on them and water when they get dry. If i were you id keep them moist for now to get your roots established, but dont over water. Really you need to read, i would go to ''basic growing'' section and read the stickys, the top threads on the section. This will answer a ton of questions there, so you will understand what to do. Also id like to see a pic of the plants:rasta:

[Vancefish]

Good looking CFL grow LSY! :thumbsup:

My "kinda wild" grow log is similar in that it too is a trial grow intended to learn from. Only real differences are I did some LST, topped one, and went natural on one.

So far I've under potted, over watered, under watered, and got root bound. When I re-potted I got nute burn, and got to flush the soil. NOW, I have nute deficiencies and started BC nutes (for Hydro, I'm in soil) watered down to 1/3rd of 1/5th, so 1/3 strength of 1 gal mixed into 5 gallons of water, then set PH to 6.2. I started them on filtered un-PH tested water that turned out to be 7.8. Then bought an aquarium PH test kit. I also had to few lights and have added more and more as I've gone along. :D

Personally I think this was the smartest thing we could do as noobs to indoor. I can't tell you all I've learned for these three "trial" plants.

Good on ya! :thumbsup:


Oh ok I thought they were done for lol. So what do I do now? Just treat them the same and wait for them to get stronger again? The stems are still standing straight but all the leaves are all drooping down. Does this mean they are not dead or or not going to die? Thanks:jointsmile:

As for you Jenny, These plants fight each other HARD for grow space. However they are quite hardy, being a weed:D. They do need their own pots or one will eventually kill the other two.

I posted a link to a guide on how to make bonsai moms. In this guide you can see the writer re pot his ailing plant after a year in the same soil and pot. He flushes the plant with RO(reverse osmosis) water before the re-pot. Then actually CUTS OFF the edges of the root ball AND then cuts off the bottom of the root ball before putting it in new soil. As you can see, the plant recovers very very well.

I posted THIS because it shows the level of root damage these plants can take without killing them.

mums (http://www.cannabase.com/cl/pages/mums/mums.html)

LSY is correct though. Once separated they will need some recovery time but should be fine after a while. Pics would make it easier too.

Read, read and then read some more. Once you've read everything you can find,... Hunt for more to read. Then when your sick and tired of reading. Start some plants. THAT will lead to more reading. :D

[headshake]

LSY, the plants don't need much N during flower. they need only a small amount...and seeing as how yours are still nice and green i don't think they need the N. worry about the P and K. if you have to hit them with your 20-30-30 (or whatever) go with about 1/3 strength and then don't feed them that again.

how long have they been flowering for?

i just shot you an email. so get back to me and i'll get that stuff out by next week at the latest. i'll try to get it out tomorrow though.

also for the big bloom or tiger bloom check out here (http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/). they have the big bloom for $9.90/quart and the tiger bloom for $13.90. they are located in twinsburg ohio so hopefully shipping won't be too expensive.

your plants look really good. don't get discouraged. indoors is slow, especially under CFLs!


-shake

[Jennylynnm6280]

After I transplanted them into their own pots I did water them pretty good with some miracle grow patio mixed in with the water. After I woke up this morning I went to check on them and the stems were still standing strong but all of the leaves were depressed and drooped right down. I left them there because Lets see ya told me they need to get used to the new pot. To my surprise literally only about 3 hours later, There was new growth already starting in the crotches of the stem. I cannot believe how fast that new growth came in after transplanting them. I have faith now that they will be ok as long as I allow that new growth to continue the best I can, although the existing leaves are still very much drooped down. As dumb as this sounds I have to buy new batteries for my camera so I can post some pictures of the plant in which I will do tonight for you guys. I would have been completely lost and thinking that my plant was completely dead if not for you guys telling me this stuff. I will definatly keep everyone updated. Again thanks guys!! :clap::clap:

[Jennylynnm6280]

I would like to add though, that when I went to transplant them last night in their own pots, The roots were not nearly as large as I thought they would be. Only 3 out of the 5 plants, the roots were very slightly tangled. The roots were about 3-4 inches long. I don't know if that makes a difference then, But now Like I said they are in their own pots.

[LetsSeeYa]

I would like to add though, that when I went to transplant them last night in their own pots, The roots were not nearly as large as I thought they would be. Only 3 out of the 5 plants, the roots were very slightly tangled. The roots were about 3-4 inches long. I don't know if that makes a difference then, But now Like I said they are in their own pots.

Thats great, but my next question is, what kind of soil are you using and have you been giving any fertilizers at all? Make sure they get the light they need and read the links iv put here. Plus you really need to read more. There isn't a grower here thats ''good'', that doesnt read all the time, so being new, you got to read as much as you can. Read some grow logs, they have helped me and there are pic's which can give you plenty of incentive to learn! Cuz your going to say to yourself, ''i want what he/she's got:thumbsup: Start here and find a solution to help with root growth, then copy and paste other link. I have got ya started, now do some reading and if ya got questions, just let me know, im glad to help, but ya need to help yourself too, by reading. This nute chart was posted by BobBong in the Grow FAQ'S, its a great place to start reading. Good luck:rasta:

Nutrients.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hey gang.. i've noticed a lot of us seem to be incorrectly identifying plant problems.. so I thought i'd do some digging and came up with this..hopefully it clears up any misunderstandings some people might have about picking out a nute deficiency.

NITROGEN (N)
Pale plants, red stems, smaller growth. Rapid yellowing of lower leaves progressing up the plant. Add any chemical fertilizer containing N. Treated plants recover in about a week.

PHOSPHORUS (P)
Slow or stunted growth, red stems. Smaller leaves that are dark green. Lower leaves yellow and die. Add chemical fertilizer containing P. Affected leaves will not show recovery but new growth will apear normal.

POTASSIUM (K)
Affected plants are usually tallest and appear to be most vigorous. Necrotic spots form on lower leaves. Red stems. Leaves appear pale or yellow. Add chemical fertilizer containing K.

CALCIUM (Ca)
Lack of calcium in the soil results in the soil becoming too acid. This leads to Mg or Fe deficiency or very slow stunted growth. Treat by foliar feeding with one teaspoon of dolomatic lime per quart of water until condition improves.

SULFER (S)
Plants suffering from S definciencies exhibit yellowing of new growth. Mix one tablespoon of Epsom salts per gallon of water until condition improves.

MAGNESIUM (Mg)
Lower leaves yellow and may even turn white while veins remain dark green. Blades die and curl upward.

IRON (Fe)
Leaves on growing shoots turn pale and veins remain dark green. pH imbalances make iron insoluble. Foliar feed with chemical fertilizer containing Fe or rusty water.

MANGANESE (Mn)
Necrotic and yellow spots form on top leaves. Mn deficiency occurs when large amounts of Mg are present in the soil. Foliar feed with any chemical fertilizer containing Mn.

BORON (B)
Growing shoots turn grey or die. Growing shoots appear burnt. Treat with one teaspoon of Boric acid (sold as eyewash) per gallon of water.

MOLYBDENUM (Mb)
Yellowing of middle leaves. Foliar feed with chemical fertilizer containing Mb.

ZINC (Zn)
White areas form at leaf tips and between veins. Occurs in alkaline soils. Zn deficiency can be treated by burying galvanized nails in the soil. Chemical fertilizer containing Zn can also be used.

OVER FERTILIZATION
Causes leaf tips to appear yellow or burnt. To correct soil should be flushed with three gallons of water per one gallon of soil.




http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/151941-importance-continuous-canopy-its-all-about-efficiency-baby.html

[LetsSeeYa]

LSY, the plants don't need much N during flower. they need only a small amount...and seeing as how yours are still nice and green i don't think they need the N. worry about the P and K. if you have to hit them with your 20-30-30 (or whatever) go with about 1/3 strength and then don't feed them that again.

how long have they been flowering for?

i just shot you an email. so get back to me and i'll get that stuff out by next week at the latest. i'll try to get it out tomorrow though.

also for the big bloom or tiger bloom check out here (http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/). they have the big bloom for $9.90/quart and the tiger bloom for $13.90. they are located in twinsburg ohio so hopefully shipping won't be too expensive.

your plants look really good. don't get discouraged. indoors is slow, especially under CFLs!


-shake

Hey Shake thanks for the info on the N thought. I know they use more P,K then N in flower, but they are so slow growing, i thought one shot might speed them up a bit. I think its just that im not used to the indoor growth and was thinking a boost might help. The only reason i haven't given any nutes was because they are very green and look healthy. I have one i wish id re potted, but didn't want to while they were budding. Also, if anything, il get a ok cola and some small buds from it. Its in the clay looking pot in pic's.

Thanks for the link, because i was looking for a place to get supplies needed and was looking at a different brand, which didn't have any stores in my area, so this works out great. And again Shake, thanks ton's man, this will really help me out, but i think you know that. Its not that im down on my grow, its that i should have been better prepared is one of my issues. But after summer i just couldn't wait to start again, lol live an learn i guess. BTW i sent that mail and will be anxiously waiting to give my babies the love my man:hippy:

:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

The slow growth is from light inefficiency, CFL 's do not penetrate like HID lights. Be patient they are doing pretty good, you will be able to harvest the top and then give the lower buds 7-10 days longer.

I know it really sux when you have nothing to smoke, makes it seem like they are not growing at all:)

[LetsSeeYa]

The slow growth is from light inefficiency, CFL 's do not penetrate like HID lights. Be patient they are doing pretty good, you will be able to harvest the top and then give the lower buds 7-10 days longer.

I know it really sux when you have nothing to smoke, makes it seem like they are not growing at all:)

Hey Hemp i was just thinking of sending you an email, just to see whats up? I have a few crappy pics to put up, but they seem like they are coming along. I like the Edna's the best, they are the ones in the better/matching pots. The Edna's are about 7-10 days behind the others, but the bigger one has a nice cola on it. The others have lots of buds, but small yet and yeah the cfl's do take longer. But im thinking not to much longer:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well i bent these 2 plants with twine to help with light down in the middle of the plant. These are the first two pics, which are the bigger ones. The cola is still under the light but was moved after pic was taken, i guess, but this was a way to get light concentrated to areas which needed light without having to buy more, which isn't an option at this time.

3rd pic is my best Edna IMO, which is smaller then the other, which is in far right plant in 1st an 2nd pic's. But the colas on the Edna's will look great with more growth im hoping. Also, il be able to get some good nutes in there as i believe the pre loaded nutes in the soil are used up, only thanks to my man Shake!

Last one is a nice bud from Haze #5, if its not the cross, or a Skunk #1. Mixed batch of seeds:thumbsup:. As a guess im thinking Haze #5, only because the Skunk iv seen 25 years ago would stink up the city. lol, and looked different. I might try a small sample for shits and giggles soon.

Sorry for the bad pic's peoples, soon they will be better:rasta:

[smallgrow1]

Nice grow so far LSY, I'm enjoyin your grow as we both are doin it CFL style. I'm a newbie at this to as I'm 3.5 weeks into flowering. out of my 12 original plants I got 5 females, 2 hermies and the rest male which I killed all of except for one that looks like it has really good genes and nice even growth so I kept it in a seperate area until I figure out what I'm gonna do(maybe pollinate a flower or 2). not bad for decent bagseed. Your plants are much bigger then mine tho as I kept them in dixie cups since day one.

Can't wait to see how yours turn out. keep it up man and goodluck.:thumbsup:

[Felixthecat]

Good job bro the grow is looking nice keep up the good work

[LetsSeeYa]

Thanks guys:thumbsup: I got sick and needed to take a few buds for something they just dont make a pill for and even had to go to the ER:( . Thing is i really couldn't believe how nice it was. It doesnt lock ya down and got about 6 hours of sleep in 3 days. Im thinking about chopping one plant to keep that affect and let the others go till there more close to 50/50. It was the Haze#5 i believe, because iv smoke Skunk and the smell i luv. Its very sweet and the buds are tight IMO. People talk about cfl's producing airy buds and im sorry cuz im just not seeing it. Its just like my outdoor, but not as big. I will try the Edna tonight and will let you guys know about that, but i had tried a sample and was like two toke and i was fine, so will see.

I never thought a person with the set up like mine could get such premo buds. If i were a person that sold the stuff, WHICH IM NOT, i would get $100.00 A 1/4 and thats what people get for this type of smoke around here. I broke down and payed 25 for an 1/8th a week or so ago and wasn't bad and even got a few seeds il try out, but does not touch what i grew, im really freaking:giggity::giggity::giggity:

Thanks for all the help everyone. I would have never made it through an indoor with out the help. One thing il pat my own back for was not using any nutes at all. The soil was pre loaded with them and have seen burnt plants after people thought their nutes were used up, but IMO for a newbie i would recommend they use this soil to get a grow out, without having to mess with any nutes. But i guess i could have gotten lucky? But they are green and still popping out new buds everyday. I have alway thought id be an outdoor grower, but after this experience i might have changed my mind. If i can change the accessibility problem, i know id start to be an indoor man for sure:cool:, not that i wouldn't maybe put out maybe 2-3 monsters. Wow, im not speechless often but..................


:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Congrats man, glad ya got what you wanted.

[Hempsouth]

LSY thats probably Nothern Lights #5, the only Haze genetics were the WitTarHar.

I am really impressed with what you have accomplished consider the obstacles you have faced. Soon I am going to do an all CFL.

[LetsSeeYa]

I dont have a clue how i mis read the pack of seeds, thinking i was growing Haze#5 when its really NL#5. But i got these pic's late last night and yeah its an aaa battery, but all the same, just a comparison:thumbsup: Third is the Edna top, the bigger one.

This is the NL#5 top:jointsmile:, im happy with it so far:rasta:

[headshake]

looking great LSY! i shot you an email. hope all is going well with you.

-shake

[frostedwonder]

Hey I like that you are using the common Battery for comparison I hope it catches on and more do as well. Now I can't wait till you start using the D batteries when the colas get big and fat! Be Well...:thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey I like that you are using the common Battery for comparison I hope it catches on and more do as well. Now I can't wait till you start using the D batteries when the colas get big and fat! Be Well...:thumbsup:

Well i got the idea from you and whats his name, with the contest. lol

I hope i can step up to the ''Ds'' growmans compareer:D

Keep er green:weedpoke:

:rasta:

[Kronz]

looks pretty good. nice job!

[sarah louise]

im really freaking:giggity::giggity::giggity:

I know the feeling, 39 days away from harvesting the first of the outdoor for the season... no finger nails left to chew and I gave up cigarettes a few months back, so I can't even substitute with tobacco.

Good luck with the rest of the grow.

sara:thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

I know the feeling, 39 days away from harvesting the first of the outdoor for the season... no finger nails left to chew and I gave up cigarettes a few months back, so I can't even substitute with tobacco.

Good luck with the rest of the grow.

sara:thumbsup:

Thanks for stooping in Sarah:thumbsup: I wish i could give up the cigs. the damn things are killing me. Plus there like 5 bucks a pack. As the weather gets a bit better im quiting too. Just so bored now im not going to try an fail, i want to make it work this time. Heck im paying $160.00 or more a month:wtf:

Im close here and cant wait for spring to get here. Big storm hit us last night, so we are snowed in.

Tried the Edna last night and was so toasted i couldn't even watch TV. I rolled one about as big as a pencil lead an thought i was on a narcotic trip of some sort. Its very strong, but as sweet as can be on the lungs. Way better then the NL#5 and thats saying a lot, cuz its some really nice smoke:jointsmile:

Im as happy as a clam, but who ever said clams were happy. Never did figure that one out. Someone is just going to eat the damn thing. lol

Keep er Green :weedpoke:

:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Thanks for stooping in Sarah:thumbsup: I wish i could give up the cigs. the damn things are killing me. Plus there like 5 bucks a pack. As the weather gets a bit better im quiting too. Just so bored now im not going to try an fail, i want to make it work this time. Heck im paying $160.00 or more a month:wtf:

Im close here and cant wait for spring to get here. Big storm hit us last night, so we are snowed in.

Tried the Edna last night and was so toasted i couldn't even watch TV. I rolled one about as big as a pencil lead an thought i was on a narcotic trip of some sort. Its very strong, but as sweet as can be on the lungs. Way better then the NL#5 and thats saying a lot, cuz its some really nice smoke:jointsmile:

Im as happy as a clam, but who ever said clams were happy. Never did figure that one out. Someone is just going to eat the damn thing. lol

Keep er Green :weedpoke:

:rasta:
Try the nicotine lozenges or gum. I couldn't do the gum 'cause my teeth are too screwed-up for gum, but I went on the lozenges with no specific intent to quit them. Used them for 5-6 years. Eventually I didn't even crave cigs anymore, I craved lozenges. Made it easy to quit them using the patch when I was ready. I know it all sounds funny, but it worked. I've been nicotine free for 3-4 years now and KNOW I'll never go back. At the price, they are cheaper than cigs too, and they have to be better for you, even if you never quit them. Good luck mi amigo.

[ForgetClassC]

I quit cigs, been since chirstmas last year
(past x-mas) got one of those e-ciggies, didn't think it would work, but it did. Cant say it will work, but they are worth a shot.

-C

[sarah louise]

As the weather gets a bit better im quiting too. Just so bored now im not going to try an fail, i want to make it work this time.


Sounds like a good plan. I think spring is the best time to quit, once you aren't confined to the house so much. There is a limit to how many hours one can sleep per day.

I used lozenges for a few months, stopped using them in the last few days as I was down to a couple a day. Well, the last few days have been really crap days... think I'll go back to the lozenges until after harvest.

I find it hard to believe that such a small amount of nicotine could make such a difference to my state of mind, but it does. Once harvest is in I'll be fine. So long as I have a little green I don't sweat the absence of the brown weed at all.

All the best,

sara :hippy:

[headshake]

good luck to both of you LSY and sara!

-shake

[sarah louise]

Thanks Shake, I got the lozenges and am feeling much better.

[canni13is]

Wow LSY!!!!!!! your grow looks awesome. LAst time i checked on your plants they were around the same size of mine. Pfft.. now they blow mine out of the water. Good job man. If they smoke the same way they look..... man you got some good smoke!!! keep me posted for sure.

[LetsSeeYa]

Thanks Shake, I got the lozenges and am feeling much better.

Hey sarah iv never heard of the lozenges before, is it something ya gotta get from the Doc. ?


I have patchs but they dont seem to help:wtf:

:rasta:

[senorx12562]

Hey sarah iv never heard of the lozenges before, is it something ya gotta get from the Doc. ?


I have patchs but they dont seem to help:wtf:

:rasta:
They are available pretty much anywhere the gum is. You can even get generic some places.

[LetsSeeYa]

Took a few buds the other day. This is a NL#5 top. Its wonderful:thumbsup:


:rasta:

[Charbud]

buds!!! got there in the end. What your next grow going to be ? I started up my vanilla kush like this week, come check it out.

Good to see your smokin some grade!!

Charbud

[LetsSeeYa]

buds!!! got there in the end. What your next grow going to be ? I started up my vanilla kush like this week, come check it out.

Good to see your smokin some grade!!

Charbud

Wow Charbud vanilla kush sounds like a really nice grow. Il def. be there man. I have a plant thats struggling so i took the top and a few other top buds on the N.L. The Edna's are two weeks behind, so just trying to finish up and get ready for an outdoor grow. This stuff will be great with big yields. I will start them in and transplant when last frost hits.

Man il tell ya, i hit this stuff like 3 times and im done and as it goes its great to sleep too. I was just looking at N.L. #5 AND ITS $255.00 FOR FEM and like172.00 for reg beans. So i gotta a pretty good gift for sure. I still have some for summer.

Il be over to check out the new grow for sure man:hippy:

:rasta:

[sarah louise]

Hey sarah iv never heard of the lozenges before, is it something ya gotta get from the Doc. ?


I have patchs but they dont seem to help:wtf:

:rasta:

Yeah anywhere that sold patches and gum will now also be selling lozenges, sublingual tabs and even nicotine inhalers.

There are a lot of nicotine alternatives available these days, take some time to try a few different brands, you'll find the one that works for you soon enough.

All the best for the rest,

sara.

[headshake]

LSY, you might have more than you think to sow for the outdoor season.....

-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

LSY, you might have more than you think to sow for the outdoor season.....

-shake

Damn Shake, ya sure know how to put a smile on a dudes face. As i see what you sow, he, he:hippy:


:rasta:

[headshake]

glad to put a smile on your face LSY. i should have that stuff out today if i can deal with the snow and ice.....YIKES!

i'll let ya know when it's gone.


-shake

[LetsSeeYa]

glad to put a smile on your face LSY. i should have that stuff out today if i can deal with the snow and ice.....YIKES!

i'll let ya know when it's gone.


-shake

Oh Shake that cold air is good for your body. I watched a documentary about how if a person lives in a cooler climate, there body will hold up better then a person who might live in a warmer climate. It was interesting. I used to luv to run while it snowed and go out in the woods during a really big snow storm with a nice fat one. Of course that was 25 years ago, but given the chance id be out right now shooting my Browning Lever Action 22cal. I loved that rifle, it was the most fun to shoot and was as accurate as hell. Of course i was a pretty good shot:cool:. But as a Texan i can understand, cuz when it gets over 85 here in the summer i cant take it, im running to get cooled down.

Thanks Shake im patiently excited for sure bro:hippy:

:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

Were getting some good snow hear too, finally its not ice or sleet.

[LetsSeeYa]

Were getting some good snow hear too, finally its not ice or sleet.

Hey Hemp hows it going man:hippy: Thats tough with ice, cuz there isnt nothing you can do with it and bad enough it kills my power:(. Everything is gettin good here, i hope ya got the same guy, thanks for stopin by:jointsmile:

:weedpoke: Keeper green man:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

Well iv had my 3rd good harvest so far. I took a couple pics of the Edna buds ad top. I guess i should have put something in for size comparison but im trying to figure out this camera i got on Eba so cheap i had to get it. My other one works but only when ya shake it a bunch:wtf:

Anyway these pics are a top and some Edna buds:hippy: I have some NL#5 drying now and will get some pics of that maybe later. I have had good luck taking the bigger buds and letting the smaller ones fatten up. But, there all very small now and will cut them off and try an re-veg them. I would like to re-veg them and put them out to finish, if this can be done. Looking for Rusty for advise with this idea:jointsmile:

This was a very different experience then my outdoor grow. Everything, to me was smaller. The fan leaves and buds were smaller then what i was used too, but i understand the light differences would explain this. If im wrong let me know, cuz i have done something wrong and dont need a repeat. I also didn't weigh anything, but im pretty confident that i got about 2oz's. Maybe a bit more but would rather under estimate the yield. I liked the N.L.#5 the best and really hope i can get some big girls off the re-vegged girl:cool:

I am ready for a second go-round for sure. Just need to finish up small buds then re veg. What a freaking blast this is:D

Enjoy, i am:rasta:

[canni13is]

How LSY those buds look great and tasty. Awesome job. I would be interested in a size comperison picture as it is as your said pretty hard to tell just by the pictures of the bud themselves. Is everything done drying and curing now? If so how does it all taste? like you expected? Im going to be putting the knife to mine next weekend as well and will hopefully have something as beautiful as what you have there. Thanks LSY for sharing your grow with us.

[LetsSeeYa]

How LSY those buds look great and tasty. Awesome job. I would be interested in a size comperison picture as it is as your said pretty hard to tell just by the pictures of the bud themselves. Is everything done drying and curing now? If so how does it all taste? like you expected? Im going to be putting the knife to mine next weekend as well and will hopefully have something as beautiful as what you have there. Thanks LSY for sharing your grow with us.



Yeah il try and get some better pic's up with some other buds. These i took laying on my computer, croped them for close up view. There not real big, but very potent. If ya right click and open, you see a bunch of white crystals. Looks cool. I harvested 3 times and took a bit early. I still have some buds getting bigger, then i wanna chop down to bonsai. Iv done Bonsai 15 years and never thought about doing one of these till i read Rusty's thread. Just made since to me to take buds as they finished, while utilizing the light to penetrate my smaller buds. Then harvest and repeat. Im feeling good about it. Also, if i can get clones before spring, im way ahead then i was last year with an outdoor grow:thumbsup:
The taste is great. The Edna's are a earthy wild taste. The N.L.#5 is sweet and hits you about an hour later with real good pain relief in my legs. I also got a SkunkxNL and its a bit stronger the the NL. The first harvest was the best because it was the NL and it helped a lot with pain, but doesnt keep you in the couch. Great for day time use. Im very pumped to start the Bonsai, cuz im really wanting to get a bunch of clones off the NL:thumbsup:

:rasta:

[bigtopsfinn]

Very nice grow... wish I had some of those buds :jointsmile:

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to LetsSeeYa again."

[LetsSeeYa]

Very nice grow... wish I had some of those buds :jointsmile:

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to LetsSeeYa again."

Next time im in Finland il for sure stop by my friend Finn:thumbsup:. Thanks for stopping in Finn i wish we could sit down have a smoke. It would be great to have a few friends from here over to party together. That would be nice. And everyone brings their samples for tasting. lol

:rasta:

[irydyum]

Look out now world. LSY is starting to figure something out. Lookin mucho beuno amigo:thumbsup:

Glad to see you are on the right track now, it's so rewarding to see someone who pays attention get a grasp on the process. Like watching you yourself come to bloom and ripen up. Great stuff bro.

[LetsSeeYa]

Look out now world. LSY is starting to figure something out. Lookin mucho beuno amigo:thumbsup:

Glad to see you are on the right track now, it's so rewarding to see someone who pays attention get a grasp on the process. Like watching you yourself come to bloom and ripen up. Great stuff bro.

Well irydyum i gotta say, after my summer grow i read my ass off and read a lot of logs. Plus you helped me get through the hardest of all newbie feats, and thats if its a male-hermy, its a male-hermy, lol. I remember trying to convince myself the male-hermy was female, but it was male. Its funny now, but il bet you were pulling your hair out calling me an idiot.

Its funny because i have this thing about paying attention. Im always bitching at my daughter to pay attention, because you learn so much worthless information you may or may not need, but there is nothing wrong with knowing a little about everything:hippy:

Thanks irydyum, means a lot coming from you, an excellent grower:thumbsup:


:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

I hope these pic's look better with a bic in the pic. The 3 tops are from right to left with 2 Edna tops and a NL#5 X Skunk#1. Also, some buds from the cross on the plate and my jar i cure an smoke out of. I leave trimmings at the bottom for brownies later. I harvested the NL#5 early, but still have a few small buds left to harvest, which is great. I like it the best, but the cross is good too. Maybe a bit smaller then an 1/8 or so left to go and then il try bonsai.
I used the highest resolution to take these pic's and its taking forever to download. If you open the pics, you can see lots of nice frost:thumbsup:


Oh yeah a pic of fresh cut Edna buds too, there great for pain relief:rasta:

[Hempsouth]

Glad your getting to experience variety. Some of that Edna cross I have run were outstanding. Even the less potent pheno's are still good smoke.

[canni13is]

Thats a good looking crop. Different strains, fat juicy buds. I think your in heaven. You gonna start another crop soon? Id be interested to know what strains you pick. I suppose your getting ready for your outdoor crop so might not see ya doing indoor stuff for awhile huh? keep us posted. GREAT JOB!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[dirtnap411]

Excellent grow :thumbsup:

[LetsSeeYa]

Glad your getting to experience variety. Some of that Edna cross I have run were outstanding. Even the less potent pheno's are still good smoke.


Hey Hemp the variety is great man:thumbsup:. I haven't found anything with any ''less'' in anything. The Edna has been great so far, with 2 plants so far. But i really like the N.L.#5 the best, with its pain relief and after awhile it makes me sleep great. Plus the taste is excellent for sure. After about an hour it seems to creep on me:stoned:



Thats a good looking crop. Different strains, fat juicy buds. I think your in heaven. You gonna start another crop soon? Id be interested to know what strains you pick. I suppose your getting ready for your outdoor crop so might not see ya doing indoor stuff for awhile huh? keep us posted. GREAT JOB!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:


Well i have a few new beans to add this go-around. I have some white widow, wrecked homicide, and diesel, which is all femed and has a few crosses in there too. These were a gift and cant wait to see the White Widow. But i really want to get more of the N.L.#5 and if i can re-veg the one i have, its going to give me some great clones to put out:thumbsup: I will have a log in ''outdoor'' and ''indoor'', if i can bonsai them.



Excellent grow :thumbsup:


Thanks a lot dirtnap:thumbsup: Glad you could stop in:rasta:

[busybee]

hey lsy,great looking buds,you deserve them!did you find looking after your indoor garden easier than your outdoor.as you say "smaller plants"and you dont need anyone to dig holes indoors,lol !!

[LetsSeeYa]

hey lsy,great looking buds,you deserve them!did you find looking after your indoor garden easier than your outdoor.as you say "smaller plants"and you dont need anyone to dig holes indoors,lol !!

Well it wasnt as easy as outdoors, but it will be for the next go-around for sure. And now i need more holes dug, using clones and all, but il get er done my man.

Thanks for stopping bye man:rasta: