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radstu08
11-10-2009, 08:54 PM
Hi all,

I've been using the wilma hyro system to veg these fem. ww seeds, they are 20 days old, EC 1.5 PH 5.9 Temp 26-28 HUM 51%.

My questions are : are they ready to go to 12/12? if so...Do I carry on giving them veg nutes or change to bloom and boost? and what EC do I start them on during flowering.

The hight of these plants are 13" , 12" , 11" and 11"
Cheers all:rastasmoke:

tinytoon
11-10-2009, 11:55 PM
I would say yup ready for 12/12 and change to bloom recipe. as far as EC and such I cant help you there. I use GH 3-part and everything is ml per gal and PH of 5.8 :jointsmile:
Nice looking plants you got there ... good job so far :thumbsup:

radstu08
11-11-2009, 12:28 PM
cheers tinytoon, I've put them into flowering today.

widow:)

tinytoon
11-11-2009, 01:42 PM
keep us posted as how it goes, as I said it all looking good :thumbsup:

radstu08
11-11-2009, 04:37 PM
Yeh I will do! I'm currently flushing with 1/4 nutes, changed the light to 600w HPS from 600w MH. Later changing tank with free bloom nutes at an EC 1.5 and PH 5.7

will keep u posted
cheers for taking the time to look and comment:)

martyrprojekt
11-17-2009, 12:49 AM
post some pictures when this thing starts to bud...Looks very nice in its current veg state...Would love to see how they turn out.

Did you grow from seeds?

radstu08
11-18-2009, 12:07 AM
Hi all,

I'm now into my 6th day of flowering, and found out that my mixture of bloom and boost of 50:50 ratio is all wrong!! I'm using IONIC nutes and I should have been adding just bloom and leaving the boost till last 6 wks of flowering!!

BUT the plants seem quiet healthy and here are some pics I took when I turned the lights off for a few minutes!

Tomorrow I'm due a tank change, so I'm just gona use bloom at an EC of 1.5

Yes I did start off from seeds, they were Greenhouse FEM WW
cheers for looking
:rastasmoke:

tinytoon
11-18-2009, 12:14 AM
nice job :thumbsup:

martyrprojekt
11-18-2009, 05:50 AM
yeah bro...Looks excellent. My biggest adjustment with growing indoors was nutrients. There are soooo many nute options out there, and their feeding schedules aren't necessarily for BUD. Only a few companies product make their nutes and schedules with bud in mind...Like Advanced nutrients and some GH products.

Your plants are looking good bro. Good job so far. The hardest part of growing indoors is getting your variables in check. Which is why most people give up on growing alltogether. No patience and they can't learn from their mistakes.

My advice...acceptable your mistakes and you them as learning blocks to perfect your art. Because this is, in fact, an art!

Good luck! :jointsmile::thumbsup:

radstu08
11-19-2009, 08:01 PM
Pics update, These ladies are 8 days into flower, just had a tank change with an EC 1.6 of bloom, PH 5.4 , HUM 48% and temp 26c.

any comments gratefully appreciated :rastasmoke:

tinytoon
11-20-2009, 12:40 PM
still looking sweet :thumbsup: were these seeds or clones?? and if seeds were the feminized?? If not shown yet should be showing sex real soon

irydyum
11-20-2009, 07:20 PM
Last run I did was femmed WW from GHS. Be careful and vigilant in your hunt for hermies. I found some nanners shooting out in about week 7 of flowering, so I was forced into an early harvest to avoid seed set in them. Still yielded quite well tho. Here's a few pics for ya :thumbsup:

Pic 1- The 5 pack right before harvest
Pic 2- Lower bud site with male flower and seed
Pic 3- Rather large cola

radstu08
11-20-2009, 08:07 PM
cheers irydyum for the pics, I've been checking everyday...them colas look delicious dude!! whats the high like of them? was it worth the grow?:):thumbsup:

Peeps I want to pick your brains with these question?

Now it might just be my paranoia...but here goes...

They are 9 days into flowering..and the first week they've had 50:50 of BLOOM and BOOST...changed the tank yesterday and just added BLOOM to an EC of 1.6....today checked the plants and I could see yellow tips on the lower leaves and some curling outward...so I've topped up the tank and adjusted the EC to 1.4 and PH to 5.8 . Also from yesterday to today ph went up from 5.4 to 6.3.?

so Peeps I'm not sure if its nutes burn, or mallnutrician??

any suggestions are gratefully appreciated

radstu08
11-20-2009, 08:09 PM
some more pics.....

radstu08
11-20-2009, 08:12 PM
final lot of pics..... I'm using IONIC nutes by the way , Also if anyone got any suggestions about when I should start adding boost? and when to UP the EC of bloom...cheers for looking :jointsmile:

irydyum
11-20-2009, 08:25 PM
If I were you, I wouldn't worry too much about that lower growth yellowing. I noticed mine did that too, which was fine with me because I usually lollipop the bottom third of the plant after about a week of flowering. Most of that lower growth won't produce viable smoke, and the energy is better spent fattening up the higher buds that receive more light.

I would consider thinning those out some, either by lollipopping the bottoms, or trimming back some branches. They look healthy and happy tho. Happy growing.

BTW, the high was great, and most of the top colas weighed in over an ounce a piece, and that was in organic soil.

radstu08
11-20-2009, 08:34 PM
wow!! irydyum just read your diary man, lets hope for no hermies. Just go to learn how to lollipop and prune....I have been cutting a few branches half way with a pair of socisors....

cheers for looking:thumbsup:

radstu08
11-20-2009, 08:36 PM
still looking sweet :thumbsup: were these seeds or clones?? and if seeds were the feminized?? If not shown yet should be showing sex real soon

hey tiny...they were from seed..GHS feminised....I'm dreading hermies:mad:

tinytoon
11-20-2009, 11:40 PM
the lower leaves yellowing could be a couple things but most likely lack of light if you are talking the "undergrowth". Nothing grows in the shade so if you have a big full dense canopy the anything uner it is gonna yellow. Eventually leaves under that canopy that are not getting sufficient light will yellow, die and fall off so I thought i would warn you :thumbsup:

your PH change could also be a real simple thing. You just went to flower so you are readjust the plants biological clock and during this time the plant is like wtf?? :wtf: I use to get more light where did it go and I use to get grow nutes, where did that go??? When just starting flower or transplant or anything that cause a change (stress) to the plant, it will be more apt to go through more water than nutes and a rise in the amount of nute strength will no doubt change your PH. All will be good, you have been doing real well at staying on top of things and I have no doubt you will enjoy the fruits of your labor :jointsmile:

GetThisOrDie
11-20-2009, 11:40 PM
Whats up...

I am new to hydro but ive noticed when I over feed my plants they get a little burn and the PH will keep rising like in your case. I would bring the nutes down a tad and see if the PH stabilizes.

Like I said im new to hydro but hopefully some more experienced hydro people can give you more info.

radstu08
11-21-2009, 01:01 AM
thanks guys for the sound advice, I have lowered the nutes conc earlier thanks getthisordie, and cheers tiny..they have been doing a lot of drinking and was worrying they are not feeding ...your explaination is very logic:):jointsmile:

tinytoon
11-21-2009, 12:23 PM
I go through same thing every cycle. They tend to drink alot more in flower than veg also in my opinon.

radstu08
11-21-2009, 09:47 PM
They are defo drinking loads tiny, just checked on them and the HUMidity is 60% temp 26c, EC went up to 1.5 and had to lower it back to 1.4 with more ph'd water also PH went up from 5.7 to 6.2 within last 6 hours. I noticed small patches of yellowing on one or two top leaves.
what do you think it might be..?:jointsmile:

tinytoon
11-21-2009, 11:17 PM
put your hand on top of the leaf when light is on ..... is your hand hot?? if so back light off a couple inches or so. BTW what strength and how far is light from top of canopy? Hopefully humidity can go down some in the very near future, do you have a fan for circulation in there? If not that can help a lil in humidity factor.

tinytoon
11-21-2009, 11:20 PM
Iri that is on NICE cola!! :thumbsup:


Getthisordie that was a good diag from what I can see :cool:
I run mine pretty much right at the edge ... the tip of the leaf has just a tinge of burn to it and thats kinda where I keep it :jointsmile:

radstu08
11-21-2009, 11:25 PM
cheers for looking tiny, They are under 600W HPS and its about 15" above the top of the plants, I've got a 12" circulating fan going 24/7 on max setting, an intake fan bringing in fresh air and an exhaust fan taking away heat from the lamp.

tinytoon
11-22-2009, 06:49 PM
did you veg under same bulb?? was thinking maybe heat but could also be getting used to a different spectrum of light if you used an MH buld for veg and HPS for flower