Any Experience with DX-100?! Insight Sincerely Appreciated.

[Iamthatguy]

Hello,

I hope this message finds you well.

"My friend" needs to rid my body of all THC and Cotinine / Nicotine Traces in two weeks.

Has anyone heard of DX-100?

They sell it at how-to-pass-a-drug-test_dot_net and I am told that it permanently removes the traces of THC from the system (not just a test masking agent) which is what is needed.

Do you think this is truly possible? These guys sound legit and the product looks good.

The thing is...it is important to assure that the best product is purchased.

They also sell something called Nicotrol (I know there are other products by that name) that supposedly removes Cotinine / Nicotine in the same way...

So any opinions? This is an important investment so any thoughts appreciated!

[Burnt Toast]

If you take the claims of magic potion peddlers at face value, then I have some oceanfront property in Kansas for sale at a fire sale price. :rolleyes:
Those peddlers exist to captialize on the so-called "war on drugs". They'll make those kind of absurd claims in order to exploit the fearful and desperate and seperating them from their hard-earned cash. Dont fall for such scam artistry.

All detox potions "work" because of dilution. That means they work because of the water that you have to drink with them. They do not remove THC from the body, nor do they convert THC into something that cannot be detected as those scam artists would like the consumer to believe.

Those scam artists need to do some serious research on THC and how the human body processes THC. Because if they had truly done their research, they would know that THC is fat soluble and not liquid soluble. Therefore, there is no product that can permanently rid the body of THC. Only time and fat-burning exercise can permanently rid the body of THC.

You could spend huge sums of money on a magic potion and not accomplish anything different than you would following the guidelines outlined in this thread: http://boards.cannabis.com/drug-testing/1147-dilution-tips-tricks-guidelines.html

[Iamthatguy]

Burnt Toast,

Thanks so much for the informative and helpful thoughts.

It is so important for me to pass this test both in terms of THC and Cotinine / Nicotine.

Will dilution work for Cotinine / Nicotine as well?

Do you think there are ANY products that could potentially cleanse the entire system?

What about doing a colon cleanse or a water fast for a few days? Will that have any effect?

Any further thoughts or opinions appreciated.

Best Regards,
Iamthatguy

[Burnt Toast]

Do you think there are ANY products that could potentially cleanse the entire system?
Like I stated in the earlier post:

there is no product that can permanently rid the body of THC. Only time and fat-burning exercise can permanently rid the body of THC.



Will dilution work for Cotinine / Nicotine as well? I will not address this because this is a Cannabis forum. All other drugs/substances are off-topic. :admin1:


What about doing a colon cleanse or a water fast for a few days? Will that have any effect? Nope. Again read my post above.

As far as drinking water days before the test, read my post in this thread:
http://boards.cannabis.com/drug-testing/177512-urine-detox-times.html

[Iamthatguy]

Thanks so much.

Can you suggest a specific strategy?

The last usage was Halloween and I was a daily toker for 2 months...and the very sensitive test is on the 23rd of this month.

Is my only chance dilution? Substitution is not an option...

I would much rather just get the THC out of my system than dilute...

Perhaps an exercise strategy combined with a certain diet?

Any specifics appreciated (as have been both of your replies) as this is so important to me...

Best,
Iamthatguy

[Burnt Toast]

Why is substitution not an option? Who is making you take the drug test?

[FakeBoobsRule]

Yeah Toast is right on several fronts. That product is a huge rip off and we only talk about marijuana here even though nicotine is legal. I will tell you though that you should do more research and use search engines on nicotine and drug tests because the information is out there about nicotine and unless that website is breaking patent laws, Nicotrol is a stop smoking aid from Pfizer and wouldn't help you pass a test for nicotine since it is nicotine.

Going back to marijuana, I like to recommend soluble fiber as well as time and exercise. That's your best colon cleanser too available without a prescription.

[Iamthatguy]

Why is substitution not an option? Who is making you take the drug test?

Substution is not an option because they sometimes watch you and they test everything with a great degree of precision...

This is for a job at a pharmaceuticals company (one that I need!)

Thanks again for any thoughts with a specific strategy...if you can offer one it would be appreciated.

-Iamthatguy

[Iamthatguy]

Yeah Toast is right on several fronts. That product is a huge rip off and we only talk about marijuana here even though nicotine is legal. I will tell you though that you should do more research and use search engines on nicotine and drug tests because the information is out there about nicotine and unless that website is breaking patent laws, Nicotrol is a stop smoking aid from Pfizer and wouldn't help you pass a test for nicotine since it is nicotine.

Going back to marijuana, I like to recommend soluble fiber as well as time and exercise. That's your best colon cleanser too available without a prescription.

Thanks for the info.

Are you saying that doing a colon cleanse (I already have a product that I know works well for this) will help eliminate THC from the body more quickly?

I can't increase the time because the test is on the 23rd no matter what...

What kind of fiber? How much exercise? I am 5'9" and 150...

Maybe I could combine the colon cleanse with (afterwards) fiber and exercise? And then dilute to some extent the day of the test?

Any specific strategy appreciated if you can think of one.

Thanks again ;] It is appreciated.

[Burnt Toast]

Substution is not an option because they sometimes watch you and they test everything with a great degree of precision...

This is for a job at a pharmaceuticals company Big deal. For employment-related tests, you will not be observed unless youve been suspected of tampering.
And by "they test everything with a great degree of precision", can you please elaborate?

[Iamthatguy]

Big deal. For employment-related tests, you will not be observed unless youve been suspected of tampering.
And by "they test everything with a great degree of precision", can you please elaborate?

Burnt Toast, I know for a fact they will observing as a friend of mine works there. As far as precision, I am told that they test for lower cutoff levels of THC than other companies but I was not given any specifics.

So right now I am just looking for the best strategy to execute. Since substitution is ruled out, do you have any advice in regards to a strategy?

From your questions it seems that substitution was your only suggestion?

I would really appreciate any strategy you can suggest.

Thanks again.

[Burnt Toast]

Burnt Toast, I know for a fact they will observing as a friend of mine works there. If what youre saying is actually true, then they are violating DHHS guidelines. You need to raise hell, even if youre not planning on subbing.

From the DHHS guidelines:


A urine specimen collection site must:

1. Provide for donor privacy while he or she provides the urine specimen. An observed collection must only be performed when required (see Chapter 7, Section D).
Which brings us to....


D. Direct Observed Collection

A direct observed collection procedure may only be used when:

1. A Federal agency has authorized a direct observed collection because a donorâ??s previous drug test result was reported by an MRO as drug positive, negative and dilute, adulterated, substituted, or invalid, or

2. An immediate collection of a second urine specimen is required in one of the following situations:

The temperature of the specimen collected during a routine collection is outside the acceptable temperature range.

There is an indication that the donor has tampered with the specimen (e.g., abnormal physical characteristic such as unusual color, excessive foaming when shaken, unusual odor).

The donor has intentionally brought to the collection site an item that could be used to:
Adulterate (e.g., a small vial containing a suspicious liquid),
Substitute (e.g., a small vial containing water or other liquid), or
Dilute a urine specimen.

Before conducting a direct observed collection, the collector must make the agency representative aware that a situation exists warranting a direct observed collection and explain to the donor why a direct observed collection is being conducted. If the donor declines to allow a direct observed collection when one of the above circumstances has occurred, it is considered a refusal to test (see Chapter 8, Section B).

The procedure for a direct observed collection is the same as that for a routine collection except an observer watches the donor urinate into the collection container. At the point in a routine collection where the donor enters the restroom with the collection container (see Section C, Step 10), a direct observed collection includes the following additional steps:

§ The observer must be the same gender as the donor. There are no exceptions to this requirement. The individual serving as the direct observer enters the restroom with the donor.

§ The observer must directly watch the urine go from the donorâ??s body into the collection container. The use of mirrors or video cameras is not permitted.

§ With regard to chain of custody, the observer must never touch or handle the collection container unless the observer is also serving as the collector.

The collector may serve as the observer when the collector is the same gender as the donor. If not, the collector must call upon another individual (who is the same gender as the donor) to act as the observer.
§ After the donor has completed urinating into the collection container:

The donor and observer leave the restroom and the donor hands the collection container directly to the collector,

The observer must maintain visual contact of the collection container until the donor hands the container to the collector, and if the same individual serves as direct observer and collector, he or she may receive the collection container from the donor while they are both in the restroom.

§ The collector checks the box for an observed collection in Step 2 on the Federal CCF, and provides the name of the observer and the reason for an observed collection on the "Remarks" line in Step 2 of the Federal CCF. A separate sheet explaining the use of an observed collection may be attached to the Federal CCF if there is insufficient room on the â??Remarksâ?� line.

§ The collector continues with the routine collection procedures (see Section C, Step 11).
Source: Drug Testing: HHS Urine Specimen Collection Handbook (Effective November 1, 2004) (http://www.workplace.samhsa.gov/DrugTesting/Level_1_Pages/HHS%20Urine%20Specimen%20Collection%20Handbook%20( Effective%20November%201,%202004).aspx) And these are the current regulations.


From your questions it seems that substitution was your only suggestion?
It is. But if you cannot obtain a clean sub, your only other option is dilution.

Read both the Substitution and Dilution sticky threads.

And while your at it, use the forum Search feature, keying in on the terms soluble fiber. FBR has many posts providing a detailed explanation on soluble fiber and how it works.