Should the person who breaks a waterpipe be required to pay?

[d00d557]

Okay basically my friend and I went in on a phx beaker bong for $300. My dumbass managed to break it, and my friend demands his $150 from the half of it. Now I don't know about you people but I have never once been compensated for a broken bong, but at the same time it only seems fair. Personally I think dude should fuck off because this was never in any written form and was only a verbal agreement. What do you guys think? I'm poor as anything also lol

[d00d557]

Okay basically my friend and I went in on a phx beaker bong for $300. My dumbass managed to break it, and my friend demands his $150 from the half of it. Now I don't know about you people but I have never once been compensated for a broken bong, but at the same time it only seems fair. Personally I think dude should fuck off because this was never in any written form and was only a verbal agreement. What do you guys think? I'm poor as anything also lol

[the image reaper]

wow ! you call the guy your 'friend', and ya gotta ask ? :wtf: ... if you broke it, thru some negligence on your part, yes, you should compensate your 'friend' ... just sayin' :smokin:

[d00d557]

Okay basically my friend and I went in on a phx beaker bong for $300. My dumbass managed to break it, and my friend demands his $150 from the half of it. Now I don't know about you people but I have never once been compensated for a broken bong, but at the same time it only seems fair. Personally I think dude should fuck off because this was never in any written form and was only a verbal agreement. What do you guys think? I'm poor as anything also lol

[d00d557]

sorry for the multiple threads, internet problems. yeah I completely agree, it's just I think the only reason he's being such a zealot about it is because it's money going into his pocket. What I want to know is if he broke it if he'd actually honor it(which i'm pretty sure he wouldn't), that's why I DON'T want to pay. It's kinda like, well shit, we both lost some on that one. Why shouldn't it be a mutually shared loss? Why should it be "hey you owe me."

[VapedG13]

You broke it ..... you go buy a new one for you guys to use:D:

If you and a friend bought a motorcycle together...you took it out and wrecked on it ....should he have to lose his 1/2 of the bike cause you were careless?

Now if he wanted his 1/2 of the money... cause you totalled it....whats fair? A new motorcylce for you both to ride:D

[achilles]

thats always been a rule around here, despite many a toker tryiing to get out of it.

[Hempsouth]

Any chance it could be repaired?

[ghosty]

Well, sucks to say but... You were the one that broke it, so that much is your fault. With that said, since it wasn't his fault you should compensate him. If you cant afford the whole $150 maybe workout a little less if he is your friend and all.

[MasterKushy]

A friend of mine was holding onto a custom bubbler for a friend of his, and one night he left it sitting on the counter and I bumped it with my elbow as I was putting on my jacket to leave and it shattered into a thousand pieces. I felt like shit because I was broke at the time, but luckily the guy was cool, and I offered him 1/4 of some chronic and I think my buddy that was in charge of it gave him like $150 bucks and all was well.

I would just buy a new one to replace it rather than giving him money, but I would probably be kinda pissed if I had a friend acting like you are. No one has never broken any of my shit, despite the fact that my favorite bowl (in my avatar) has been dropped from about 5 feet onto concrete 4 times by idiots and survived them all, so I don't know what I'd really do in the situation. But the fact that you are trying to absolve yourself of all the blame when it was your fault is sketchy. How did you break it anyways? Learning to juggle? :jointsmile:

Overall I'd say that since he is your friend, he shouldn't really have to ask you to do something about it, you should just do it since you are friends and it was half his investment too. Its true that you are both out a bong, but its your fault so you should have some accountability for it.

[Markass]

Why should it be "hey you owe me."


because if he's your friend you should be respectful and reimburse him for the property that you damaged..if you're my friend and my window falls down and shatters while you're rolling it down..my bad, it fucked up...if you're throwing something out of the window while it's up and break it, you're going to pay for it..if not, you're not a very good friend.

I'm always careful with bongs that belong to other people, and if I ever broke one due to my own negligence, I'd feel obligated to pay for it...but that's just the kind of person I am. Obviously you're the type that would rather buy cigarettes, beer, and or pot instead of giving your buddy back the money because he doesn't have anything to smoke out of anymore.

[Ub3rB0ng]

Absolutely!,If I broke someones piece(luckily have never broken my glass)I would be at the door to the headshop and back in enough time with a replacement to keep the circle going. I'm always really careful with all glass pieces because I collect them.:bonghit::bonghit::bonghit::bonghit:

[JohnnyZ]

Don't be an asshole just buy a new bong. Everyone is broke man learn your lesson and be careful.

[Jesusgreen]

sorry for the multiple threads, internet problems. yeah I completely agree, it's just I think the only reason he's being such a zealot about it is because it's money going into his pocket. What I want to know is if he broke it if he'd actually honor it(which i'm pretty sure he wouldn't), that's why I DON'T want to pay. It's kinda like, well shit, we both lost some on that one. Why shouldn't it be a mutually shared loss? Why should it be "hey you owe me."

Because you broke it. I understand that it was an accident but you shouldn't be using a $300 piece if you can't afford to pay for it if you manage to break it. I personally wouldn't ask one of my best friends to pay for a piece they broke, unless they were being careless when using it, however my pipe is a £5 pipe, and this is a $300 bong, there's a big difference, and for something that cost that much I'd be pretty upset if it was damaged and I'd definitely expect to see money from the person who damaged it.

If I broke someone's piece I'd pay them for it, regardless of how much it was worth. If I decide to smoke from an expensive piece I know that if it breaks I'm going to have to pay them a lot of money to get a new one.

Just pay him and be more careful next time, or smoke from a cheaper piece. You don't need a $300 bong to smoke, and it won't get you any more high than a well made home-made bong.

[RedLocks]

yes

[the image reaper]

did this question really require THREE separate threads ?? :wtf:

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

Dude, you're tight.

If you both paid for it then he should have his half back or you should buy a new one, even a cheaper one.

Bottom line, you owe him!

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

Yeah man, if you broke it you gotta pay him for it.

Go out and buy a new pipe/bong that maybe costs a little less is you're broke. Either replace the bong or he'll replace you.

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[TheChameleon]

Absolutely not if not discussed beforehand. One has to assume that shit happens especially with an apparatus that it's primary purpose is get high.

[Neodrivesageo]

You gotta buy him a new bong. Personally once you would of said you weren't going to pay for it we wouldn't be friends no more.

[epicsoundz69]

How about this situation?

I bought a waterpipe on 4/20/08. It cost 250 dollars alone, and had a red lower bubble and neck (favorite color is red btw), two percolators (is that what they are?), a matching bubbler bowl (purchased seperately, $50), and a red diffusing downstem (also separate, custom, $30).

It was at my homies apt because i was pretty much living there and wanted to use it. The term ended and we were both moving back over the summer. I moved out in april 09 and he was holding on to it because i didnt want to cart it around with my dad in the car, and he said it was cool, he would take it when he moved out a month later.

He moves out and a couple days later i go over and tell him to bust it out so i could pack it. He says "Dude i thought you took it."

He left it in the FUCKING apartment. Along with my blacklights and strobes but those i dont care too much about.

What is reasonable payment for that?

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

How about this situation?

I bought a waterpipe on 4/20/08. It cost 250 dollars alone, and had a red lower bubble and neck (favorite color is red btw), two percolators (is that what they are?), a matching bubbler bowl (purchased seperately, $50), and a red diffusing downstem (also separate, custom, $30).

It was at my homies apt because i was pretty much living there and wanted to use it. The term ended and we were both moving back over the summer. I moved out in april 09 and he was holding on to it because i didnt want to cart it around with my dad in the car, and he said it was cool, he would take it when he moved out a month later.

He moves out and a couple days later i go over and tell him to bust it out so i could pack it. He says "Dude i thought you took it."

He left it in the FUCKING apartment. Along with my blacklights and strobes but those i dont care too much about.

What is reasonable payment for that?

A boot to the balls and not letting stoners look after your stuff ;)

I dunno, get him to pay you!

[iread247]

sorry for the multiple threads, internet problems. yeah I completely agree, it's just I think the only reason he's being such a zealot about it is because it's money going into his pocket. What I want to know is if he broke it if he'd actually honor it(which i'm pretty sure he wouldn't), that's why I DON'T want to pay. It's kinda like, well shit, we both lost some on that one. Why shouldn't it be a mutually shared loss? Why should it be "hey you owe me."

point is, you'll never know. this time it's your fault. pay him back and next time, save up your own money so when you break it you can be mad at yourself.

[cannamanibus]

IMO, No, not required. I never get mad at people who break my pipes or w/e. If it is a real friend they would just buy another one anyways, b/c that what i would do if i broke a friends pipe, But that;s just me. If the person was a dick about it, i probably would'nt. It would honestly depend on how the person reacts. If they didnt sweat it and were cool, then ill come thru with a piece that was probably badder than before.

[TheChameleon]

It's different but not required to pay IMHO.

I am not saying I would not feel bad, in the first senario I would make it up to my friend. In this 2nd senerio you just fucked up and did not keep a handle on your stuff, we all did that at one time or another and it is a life lesson IMO.

[Reefer Rogue]

Yes, if you break someone's stuff you should pay for it. Unless the guy is very rich and he may not want you too, but you should still offer. If i broke your bong and i was like nah i'm not gonna pay for it why should i? You'd be pissed.

[LOC NAR on probation]

Okay basically my friend and I went in on a phx beaker bong for $300. My dumbass managed to break it, and my friend demands his $150 from the half of it. Now I don't know about you people but I have never once been compensated for a broken bong, but at the same time it only seems fair. Personally I think dude should fuck off because this was never in any written form and was only a verbal agreement. What do you guys think? I'm poor as anything also lol

You should give him the money cause your as you say DumbAss broke it. What a fucktard to think he should just be out of his half which cost 150. We aren't talking a few here it's 150. Your only as good as your word and from the way you sound I would not blame him if he beat some satisfaction out of your ASS.

[weedmaster]

i fell over and knocked my mates tv on the floor when i was pissed, at the time he had no job no money,he called me a cunt and laughed about it even though he was pissed off with me, he didn't mention anything about replaceing it but i done what all mates do and replaced it next day even though i couldn't really afford it. imo he shouldn't have asked you to pay for it, but you should replace it, even if it's with a cheep one for now if you have little money.

[KingKronic420]

i had a former buddy of mine break one of my bubblers, and laugh about it. i told him he was to replace it or ill beat the shit out of him and take the money out of his wallet, his choice. he laughed again, in my face. so i beat the shit out of him and took twice as much as the bubbler cost, i like to call it a tax for being a btch.

you break it, you buy it. end of discussion. step up and be a man.

[GanjaClimber]

Hello, as most people have already said, I recommend you buy a new water pipe, but don't spend $300 on it. I suggest buying something online. Try chunkyglasspipes..... they have many nice pieces for low prices.

Also I bought a water pipe from etsy.com...it is an artist's website kinda like ebay. If you search for "bubbler" you will come up with a lot of hits for relatively cheap.

Also, I broke one of my pipes today, so I feel your pain :|

[baisez le monde.]

Tell yer friend to stop being a dick and let yall purchase one again when possible. Lol dont be buying expensive ass pieces with someone youre not that close with?

[scrumby]

What you had entered into is a conceptual agreement, and is not bound to the object itself.
If you reimburse the money for your half of a new bong, and the other party refuses to purchase another one with you, then the other party is in breach of contract.
In short your contract is to have, and use a bong in a shared environment no matter if you have to go through 10 of them.
As a matter of the object itself, if a person is using due care, and using the object in a manner that is consistent with it's intended purpose in the event of accidental breakage no fault shall be incurred.
In the U.S though the degree varies from state to state in order to collect on the broken device some sort of negligence must be demonstrated.
I think you should use any parts remaining, and purchase whatever parts together that are required to make it work again, even if it is a lesser system (remember it is not the object in question here it never was), and honer your agreement as friends. If he is not willing then take your loss, and re-evaluate the friendship as required by your own personal belief.
Personally I think that the guys instant dissolution of your agreement, and demand payment for the object seems like a red flag sign that your dealing with a douchebag.

[StickyfingahZ]

I have had freinds break pipes and stuff,I have never asked them to pay.You should however buy a new bong for "you guys"...If the Bong was bought for "you guys" and you broke it,it should be replaced.too bad you guys aint good enough freinds to just chalk it up as a lost and go get another bong without arguing over who should pay.

BTW- Wouldnt $150 be half price for a NEW bong? your guys use has decreased its value right? I dunno,just throwing thatout there,lol

[BlueBlazer]

That is pure fucking insanity.

Yeah, I know. He got addicted to hookers.

No, I'm talking about the guy who threw your bong. You should never throw a bong, kid. Ever.

:stoned:

[monny10]

Dude, you're tight.

If you both paid for it then he should have his half back or you should buy a new one, even a cheaper one.

Bottom line, you owe him!

Yes.... I agree with 3sheets....you should at least go buy a new one.....even a cheaper one! whatever you can afford....

If I had halfed with you and you broke it, I'd say hey..... shit happens man...yeah...But I'd expect you to at least go out and replace it....

If you wanted to be an asshole about it.... I'd tell you to Fuck off.... and sever all ties with you.... not replacing it shows a lot about your integrity..... losing $150 on a bong he chipped in for is a pretty cheap price to pay to find out someones true colours..... that they have no integrity and should'nt be associated with....

Bottom line.... If you value your friendship... replace it!