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McToker
10-30-2009, 08:41 PM
I need some help here. Mrs. McToker is having a heck of a problem with "burning" our medication. We have all sorts of glass pipes, papers and a bong. The problem is that the Mrs. has incredible coughing spells after a good hit. She doesn't like the bong. Never has. There is no difference, for her, between a joint and a pipe. I stopped by our local shop and bought a cheap water pipe. Now, her coughing doesn't start until the second hit. Better, but still not acceptable.

I've researched vaporizors and decided that while I like the Purple Days (PD) I don't want to wait over 2 months to get one. That leaves the Vapor Brothers Hands Free. But, the Mrs. won't let me spend $165 on one.

Any suggestions on what kind of appliance or method, other than vaporizors, that will lessen the impact on her throat?

Thanks,

McT

DOUGAL25
10-30-2009, 08:51 PM
Any suggestions on what kind of appliance or method, other than vaporizors, that will lessen the impact on her throat?

Edibles or a THC tincture is all I can come up with.

If price is the issue on a vap (which is the "healthiest" way to smoke), I would look at this vap:
Digital Vaporizer Herbal Vaporizer +Free 3pc Grinder BK - eBay (item 170373335773 end time Nov-15-09 21:54:01 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Vaporizer-Herbal-Vaporizer-Free-3pc-Grinder-BK_W0QQitemZ170373335773QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defa ultDomain_0?hash=item27ab0acadd)

40 bux total for vap + grinder...such a good deal that I'm getting one in about a month :D

Thizz All Day
10-30-2009, 09:27 PM
Vaporizers will help, as will higher quality weed, properly dried and cured, and flushed completely if chemmed or just straight organic.

Curing makes such a difference.

McToker
10-30-2009, 10:30 PM
The edible stuff doesn't interest the Mrs. The herb is already pretty high quality, AK-47 and Blue Apollo. They were flushed before harvest and cured well. She does better with the AK-47 but the Blue Apollo really sets off her coughing. Neither bothers me at all as far as coughing goes.

After the research I've done I think we'll pass on the eBay vapes. If we end up getting one it will most likey be the Vapor Brothers. I'm still pushing her towards the vape. She can be one tough customer, though.;)

In the meantime, I just bought her a bag of cough drops.:D

Ub3rB0ng
11-04-2009, 04:44 AM
buy better weed man, if its not smooth its not worth the money imo.

Markass
11-04-2009, 01:48 PM
I cough every time I take a hit...the amount I cough is dependant upon how big of hit I take..if this is high quality marijuana, which if you're medical I would say it is, tell her to take a small hit and just hold it in for about five seconds..I'll usually get one real good hit and choke to get me started, then I take it easy after I get the onset from the first one..

ForgetClassC
11-04-2009, 02:39 PM
Look into diffusion for your bong. I don't know what type or size, but you get get downstems diffused for like 10 bux and a nice diffused ash-catcher for like 50. Now my buddy has a fixed stem tree with circulator toro, with a toro trashcatcher and a phathead inline, now thats smooth, but also cost $1300. Diffusion makes the difference though.

ProAnon
11-04-2009, 02:51 PM
Protip: Drink some water.

Altmode: Make a lightbulb vape. All you need is a big lightbulb, a candle, some weed to vape, a bottle cap and two straws.
Exacto knife always helps.

the image reaper
11-04-2009, 03:38 PM
if using a bong, or water pipe, put HOT water in it ... that's right, HOT water ! ... just do it, you'll see :thumbsup:

achilles
11-04-2009, 09:58 PM
Second on the hot water idea, found that one out after deciding to pour my green tea into the bong. Its like warm aroma therapy,... then you get stoned!

MasterKushy
11-04-2009, 10:26 PM
I second to idea of diffusing your bong. A friend of mine has a similar setup to the one described but with a bubbler bowl, an ash catcher/diffuser and a phathead attachment thing and it really is incredible. I have never hit something so smooth. But overall he's put like $500 of extra attachments into his $3-400 bong. Probably worth it though.

Also realize with the THC and good stuff, you're inhaling a fair amount of bad stuff too. The best option is vaporization. It will cost you a bit of cash but its worth it IMO. My thought is if you're gonna smoke the best cannabis, you should use the best tools. :thumbsup:

lwien123
11-05-2009, 06:33 AM
I've researched vaporizors and decided that while I like the Purple Days (PD) I don't want to wait over 2 months to get one. That leaves the Vapor Brothers Hands Free. But, the Mrs. won't let me spend $165 on one.



A bit confused, being that the PD is more expensive than the VB.

Anyway, another alternative to the PD would be the Myrtlezap. Same basic design, a bit cheaper, and there's not a long waiting list like there is on the PD.

BTW, good call on staying away from those cheap Chinese made vapes on Ebay.

Rubberbubbler
11-05-2009, 11:58 AM
I always thought ice would help but hot water in your bong dose seem like it would work better:thumbsup:

smello
11-05-2009, 03:06 PM
Hot water DOES work wonders-smello

Spagett
11-05-2009, 03:59 PM
I always thought hot water was great too, amazingly smooth hits, until we filled our bong up with that really hot water gas stations use for coffee... it cracked the bong immediatley :(

Markass
11-05-2009, 04:36 PM
I always thought hot water was great too, amazingly smooth hits, until we filled our bong up with that really hot water gas stations use for coffee... it cracked the bong immediatley :(

gotta gradually work it into hot water from cold..just as you've got to gradually go to cold from hot..otherwise that happens to you. learned my lesson once...$50 and a new bong later..

Storm Crow
11-05-2009, 07:29 PM
I have used cannabis for over 40 years. Before I got my VB, my lungs were a mess. Less than 2 weeks after getting the VB, my lungs were perfectly clear and no more morning cough! Now the only time my lungs give me trouble is when I use my pipe! I have used my VB daily for over 3 years with no problems. :thumbsup:

A friend of mine is a severe asthmatic. She "got legal" about a year ago. Every time she smoked she'd cough and cough. I let her try my VB. She took a small hit. Then a bigger one and SMILED! :D We were ordering her a VB about 5 minutes later!

The "knock offs" of the VB that I have seen are junk! Don't even bother! The VB is sturdy, quiet and very much worth the every penny! Get it!

In the meantime, why not look into "water curing" your cannabis to create a smoother smoke? Won't have much flavor, but will be easy to toke!


Granny :hippy:

lwien123
11-05-2009, 08:22 PM
I have used cannabis for over 40 years. Before I got my VB, my lungs were a mess. Less than 2 weeks after getting the VB, my lungs were perfectly clear and no more morning cough! Now the only time my lungs give me trouble is when I use my pipe! I have used my VB daily for over 3 years with no problems. :thumbsup:

A friend of mine is a severe asthmatic. She "got legal" about a year ago. Every time she smoked she'd cough and cough. I let her try my VB. She took a small hit. Then a bigger one and SMILED! :D We were ordering her a VB about 5 minutes later!

The "knock offs" of the VB that I have seen are junk! Don't even bother! The VB is sturdy, quiet and very much worth the every penny! Get it!


Granny :hippy:

Totally agree with this, but keep in mind that there are about 10 other vapes out there from reputable manufacturers that would provide the same benefits as the VaporBros., and some, possibly even more depending on what your priorities are.

GreenMtBeast
11-05-2009, 09:33 PM
It might seem counter-intuitive, but BIG FATASS BLUNTS. Choose a flavor you enjoy with the smoothest blunt/wrap (packs of Dutch Masters are sealed to be as fresh as the minute it was made). Take as small of a hit as you want and if you can't take it to the lungs, just breath it out your nose and when your not toking, the bud won't run. Continue puffing until high. When I take my time and solo that slow-burn sticky Boone Beasts I can be outside for hours. :smokin:

MrMojoRisin7127
11-12-2009, 01:34 AM
if you can't take it to the lungs, just breath it out your nose

Yeah because that won't burn like hell....


Do yourself a favor and get a vaporizer please. We've got a thread going over in the vaporizer section for the best vapos under $200 US.

ghostwolf
11-12-2009, 08:49 AM
This an old trick I learned as a teenager. When you smoke keep a cold drink in reach so if or when you choke & cough quickly take a drink. It has always worked for me, well enough that I've used that trick for 34 years.:smokin:

scrumby
11-12-2009, 10:19 PM
If your a big hitter never leave stale smoke in the chamber for the next person, especially with a large bowl.

GrowinGreen23
11-28-2009, 11:39 PM
I need some help here. Mrs. McToker is having a heck of a problem with "burning" our medication. We have all sorts of glass pipes, papers and a bong. The problem is that the Mrs. has incredible coughing spells after a good hit. She doesn't like the bong. Never has. There is no difference, for her, between a joint and a pipe. I stopped by our local shop and bought a cheap water pipe. Now, her coughing doesn't start until the second hit. Better, but still not acceptable.

I've researched vaporizors and decided that while I like the Purple Days (PD) I don't want to wait over 2 months to get one. That leaves the Vapor Brothers Hands Free. But, the Mrs. won't let me spend $165 on one.

Any suggestions on what kind of appliance or method, other than vaporizors, that will lessen the impact on her throat?

Thanks,

McT

Buy a vaporizer, you inhale only the THC and water vapor is expelled, the burning usually comes from the micro/macro nutrients when growing and without properly curing the bud

GG23

adrockdc
07-15-2010, 10:28 PM
Have you ever tried Water Curing your meds? It will lose flavor and smell... but the upside is that there is no harshness to the smoke - cleaner then vaping

johard59
09-05-2010, 04:21 PM
Coughing is an important body defense mechanism of the airways. When something blocks the air passages, the body immediately attempts to expel the substance by forcing out air in the lungs under high pressure. What you have to do is get used to inhaling. The way to do this is to take a small puff, and inhale very slowly. When you start to feel the urge to cough, hold your breath and try really hard to not cough. When the feeling passes, exhale the smoke, and do it again. If you do this for just 4 or 5 puffs, trying hard to not cough, you should be able to easily inhale without coughing.

smokin dope
09-05-2010, 08:41 PM
smallers tokes :)

smokin dope
09-05-2010, 08:42 PM
Vaporizers will help, as will higher quality weed, properly dried and cured, and flushed completely if chemmed or just straight organic.

Curing makes such a difference.

x2 :pimp:

smokin dope
09-05-2010, 08:44 PM
I have used cannabis for over 40 years. Before I got my VB, my lungs were a mess. Less than 2 weeks after getting the VB, my lungs were perfectly clear and no more morning cough! Now the only time my lungs give me trouble is when I use my pipe! I have used my VB daily for over 3 years with no problems. :thumbsup:

A friend of mine is a severe asthmatic. She "got legal" about a year ago. Every time she smoked she'd cough and cough. I let her try my VB. She took a small hit. Then a bigger one and SMILED! :D We were ordering her a VB about 5 minutes later!

The "knock offs" of the VB that I have seen are junk! Don't even bother! The VB is sturdy, quiet and very much worth the every penny! Get it!

In the meantime, why not look into "water curing" your cannabis to create a smoother smoke? Won't have much flavor, but will be easy to toke!


Granny :hippy:


:hippy::hippy::hippy:

hiiighlyfe
06-21-2013, 12:48 AM
I need some help here. Mrs. McToker is having a heck of a problem with "burning" our medication. We have all sorts of glass pipes, papers and a bong. The problem is that the Mrs. has incredible coughing spells after a good hit. She doesn't like the bong. Never has. There is no difference, for her, between a joint and a pipe. I stopped by our local shop and bought a cheap water pipe. Now, her coughing doesn't start until the second hit. Better, but still not acceptable.

I've researched vaporizors and decided that while I like the Purple Days (PD) I don't want to wait over 2 months to get one. That leaves the Vapor Brothers Hands Free. But, the Mrs. won't let me spend $165 on one.

Any suggestions on what kind of appliance or method, other than vaporizors, that will lessen the impact on her throat?

Thanks,

McT

A diffuser attachment for a bong will help a great deal in minimizing the coughing and harshness. Check out portable vaporizer Micro G which will be less harsh.

SmokeRowSmoke
08-07-2013, 04:56 AM
Wooden pipes seem to make me cough less, especially the ones from like the 50's with the chain attached to the metal cover that goes over the bowl.

loverly
11-06-2013, 10:48 PM
smallers tokes :)

i'm an absolute newb to MJ and I'm with your wife, the burn in my throat and the coughing are not worth whatever remedy I'm trying to get out of the smoke, especially if I already have a headache. I can take 2 or 3 small/short tokes from a joint without the pain. I try to be careful and feel for a heating up in my throat. As soon as I feel that I stop smoking. It's the same if I use the pipe style vaporizer we have. I only draw on the pipe until my lips feel slightly warm, then I stop, wait a sec and take another draw.

This has worked for me. It doesn't get me high, but it does help with my pain.

(and that was my very first post!)

SamLyle
11-07-2013, 01:44 PM
That was basically the same with me too when I was first starting to smoke. The throat hit was way too much for me. But after a few times, I learned how to do it the way I can take the hit. When bongs arrived, they made it all even easier. :)

Yoda the Green
11-23-2013, 04:08 PM
I have never heard of hot water in a bong making the hit smoother i will have to give that a go next time, but with regards to the thread if you're not willing to spend a chunk on a Vap which means you would rule out a good an expensive bong, have you tried putting ice in the bong it cools the smoke and makes it much smoother, also It took me a while to get decent weed that wasn't harsh, so might just be a case of trying a different source mate.

One last thing is that she will get used to it my advice is to keep taking the hits and she should get used to it remarkably quickly.

markabley136
12-13-2013, 04:15 AM
The quality is not that good or you are taking it in a wrong way.. By the way you can try vaporizing it. It could help.

CaptainOrganicsCO
12-13-2013, 05:33 AM
Get organic buds. That are well cured. Maybe get organic washed buds for a smoother smoke.

http://boards.cannabis.com/advanced-techniques/208557-bud-washing.html

Vapewithfire
12-13-2013, 09:16 AM
Smoking is not good for your lungs and body, i guezz. Especially smoking weed has up to 4 times more condensate than smoking tobacco. Why don“t you get a good vape, you have no condensate and up to 4 times more thc.

Get a vape or read and follow this

Smoking a bong is not really great, vaping a bong is great.
All you need are 3 pipescreens.
Put some weed in your bowl and put 3 pipescreens above the weed.
When you smoke it now, it gets vaped before it really starts to burn.
Much more thc and much less condensate.
When it starts to burn, hold the flame higher or place the screens higher.

Only better than this is bong vaping with a hot air gun.
All you need is a hot air gun with a temperature around 250 degrees and a bong bowl, that is big enough to place the gun on or in it.
Lay 1 pipescreen on the weed and start inhalin before the gun is placed on the bowl ( or the screens could fly away ).
I got a steinel Hl 1910 E.

Here is a link to a video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M0xw9pr10I

SmokenTokeOne
01-06-2014, 10:08 PM
It is too bad she does not like a bong. The condenser coil bong I bought from Smokewire gives a really gentle cool smoke that eliminates most of the coughing, but that does not sound like the right solution for her.

Did you ever get the vaporizer for her? Eliminating the black from your smoke does make it smoother and less likely to cause coughing, but I still see plenty of people cough even when they use a vaporizer. I sure hope it worked out for you.

Dabberville
01-23-2014, 04:42 PM
I myself suffer from a similar problem, though I am sure smoking cigarettes in my youth certainly didn't help. I would recommend the Mrs. trying the THC tincture or has she tried BHO extracts? BHO delivers a powerful, vaporized hit meaning she could be taken care of with one hit and you can purchase BHO smoking equipment now far cheaper than some of the electric vaporizers out there. I personally used the "iolite" but I just kept wearing them out and they deliver such a low potency hit, I would have to run it for long periods of time, which eventually would kill them in almost 6 months to the day. WIth BHO I take one tasty hit and I'm out the door!! If you live in a legal state you can ask for more information and a demonstration of equipment at a local dispensary.

Dutch Pimp
01-23-2014, 05:21 PM
if you don't cough...you don't get off :stoned:

tlranger
01-23-2014, 05:28 PM
if you don't cough...you don't get off :stoned:

A go to line around here, Good job!!

kevinhlewis1
01-29-2014, 06:06 AM
You have coughing after quitting smoking even though you haven't had a cigarette in a day, weeks or even sometimes months?