Corkboyhighs first grow,Hydro papaya

[Corkboyhigh]

Hi all,
having spent the past few weeks researching this forum ive decided to take the plungeand get growing.:thumbsup:
Ive decided on a simple homemade ebb and flow system which ive made from 4" pipe for my flowering room and a drip system i bought in b&q for the vegging area.
I will be using 6oow hps lamo for flowering and i have a standard warehouse type flourescent for vegging.
I recently moved into a new house so ive assigned the box bedroom as my growspace, Iv sectioned off about 4.5x3x7 to be my flowering room. Due to financial restrictions i will be building it as i go along. Next on the list is a 600w hps light.
i will be using an inline fan to extract air from the room and have a passive air intake. i dont think ill need carbon filters because i live in the countryside and the exhaust fron the room is out an upstairs window. for air movement inside i will be using oscillating fans.
I bought papaya seeds from a local headshop and 7 out of 10 germd in a paper towel in my airing cupboard. I transferred them to rockwool cubes and they all broke ground within 2-4 days. Iv named them girls names Amy Barbra Ciara Dorothy Eva Fiona Glenda in the order they popped. They are 3-5 days old now and are starting to grow a second set of leaves. Ill get some pics up soon.
i Will be using BioBizz bloom and grow nutes with maxicrop seaweed stuff and formulex for the seedlings. Im just watering them by hand for now cause iv read that overwatering is not good at this stage.
Ok i think thats about it for now, looking forward to some input from you guys along the way and of course for some sweet bud after xmas:jointsmile:

[fourkicks]

do you mind a jackeen stopping by for a look?:thumbsup:

[Corkboyhigh]

course fourkicks boy all greenthumbs r welcome round here

[Corkboyhigh]

OK cant sleep so i got up and took a few pics of the babies, not like i have to get up for work or anything

[axlcinema]

A spare room to work with, In the countryside - nice setup bro, looking forward to see how things progress.

[EvilCartman]

Nice! I'm tuned-in for this run. Tasty stuff!

Are these fem seeds? Or, are the girl names an attempt at positive reinforcement? :)

Looks like a good start. :thumbsup:

[indica1980]

are they your favourite names or are someone special? lol
cant wait to see them grow up

[Corkboyhigh]

Nice! I'm tuned-in for this run. Tasty stuff!

Are these fem seeds? Or, are the girl names an attempt at positive reinforcement? :)

Looks like a good start. :thumbsup:

Exactly I couldnt have put it better myself.. positive reinforcement! No they're not femmed, I bought a pack of g-force fem seeds before this but I killed them with my impatience! so i bought these on the cheap afterwards lol.
Handy having a headshop down the road!

Ya indica i know girls with all those names...well except dorothy but i was high when i named them and couldnt think of any D's! Interesting to see which ones will turn out 2 be males ha

[Corkboyhigh]

I dont think barbra and ciara are gonna make it:(, they've gone all curly or something, ill get pics up later, so im down to 5 regular papaya so knowing my luck they'll all be males so I ordered seeds online from attitude seedbank. Afghan kush x yumbolt and they threw in 2 free seeds LA woman and lemon skunk all feminized.
I ordered the 600watter and fan so they should be arriving soon. I think im gonna flower these papaya young and cut clones if they are females, turn this into a perpetual grow:thumbsup:

[Corkboyhigh]

ok the first two are barbra and ciara, any ideas why this happened? i know it doesnt look too bad but compared to the others they're dying:(

[Corkboyhigh]

:thumbsup:I got my gear today from 3countieshydro, 600w HPS, ph meter and a fan, I dont think the fan will be strong enough tho its a 130m3/h my box is
1x1.5x2m high. Put the exhaust into the attic there doesn't seem to be anything coming thru it, just a noise.

Turns out my PH was all out for the babies, when i checked it was 8.2. I had one of them liquid ph testers and i ph'd the water pretty good, but when i added the nutes it must've shot up. Thats why they werent growing very quick. How long before they get over it and gimme a bit of growth anyone?

Anyways i changed the resevoir and set up the drippers for 20 mins three times a day and i cut the daylight to 18. I had it at 24 to try and make them grow. Im gonna pick up a pair of 3' flourescents next week and try to find a
3x3 ft tray. Any ideas where that could be gotten? In ireland lads?

So nothing more to add really ill post some pics tomorro. Oh yeah for any first timers learn from my mistake ph the water after you add the nutes:i feel stupid:


Oh yeah i got my all fem seeds so im considering which ones to germ, probly LA woman and one other

[deleafer2220]

I always let my water sit for a while so pH will come down...even after adding nutes...don't really know if this does anything but i haven't had pH problems since..hope that helps clear up any problems :jointsmile:

[fourkicks]

hows tricks man... are you going to use metal halide or hps to veg them seedlings...???

can your 600w take both bulbs?

[Corkboyhigh]

yep it can take both i think all hps can take mh but not the other way round, im gonna continue with flourescents for my vegging room because theyre cheap to run, and i hope to have a perpetual grow going on so i need the hps. I'll get some pics up of the babies soon

[smokers]

looking good cork boy keep it up
:smokin:

[Corkboyhigh]

:(since last post i have established that im an idiot for not presoaking my rockwool cubes. The ph inside the cubes was almost 8. I am trying to rectify this by having a low ph in the resevoir. Plants are showing some signs of micronutrient deficiencies, brown spots on new growth and a whitening of the leaves- iron and calcium deficiencies from having high ph. On the plus side there has been vigorous growth in the last 24 hrs with lots of secondary growth. I have started using advanced hydroponics 3 part nutes, they have chleated minerals which are immediately available to the plants. Im using maxicrop seaweed extract as a growth stimulant

Next time i think ill use the 1" cubes for propogation and put them into net pots with clay pebbles.

Im thinking ill start flowering the papaya at about 28 days. They're all between 18-20 days sprouted and have 4-5 nodes developed so far. My flowering room is ready except for a stronger fan, the fan i bought is piss weak. i thought 100/lh would be enough.

Also i covered the tray im using with plastic loosely fitted to allow airflow. the cubes had gone a bit green. This also reflects some of the light back up to the plants

Put 3 fem seeds into germ today, LA woman, lemon skunk and afghan kush x humbolt. Hopefully ill have a bit of variety after xmas


Anyways heres some pics for y'all

[Corkboyhigh]

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[smokers]

Next time i think ill use the 1" cubes for propogation and put them into net pots with clay pebbles.

whats the story corkboy great minds must think alike as im doing exactly that with my system lol
by the way them nutes are great and them plants look sweet
:smokin:

[Corkboyhigh]

Thanks smokers, They're like my own child at this stage, fuck it a baby would take less looking after. Im really happy with the progress even with the problems im having. Hopefully i'll be able to iron them out. :thumbsup:

[bluntpasser]

looking great cork..Quite a selection of strains..Im excited to see how they turn out..:thumbsup:

[Corkboyhigh]

After clumsily dropping a 5' flourescent onto the top of their heads and a stressful day wrestling with PH iv decided that ive put them through enough.
So i put em up under HPS. The stalks are a little wonky on a couple but i think theyll be fine. I put them into my cowboy ebb n flow system and flushed em out with ph 4 water. The run off is now around 6 so hopefully i can control it from now on.


I reduced the day to 16 hrs and will reduce it by 2 hrs every second day until its at 12. Im hopin to see a lot of growth in the next few days. I've done some searching and it seems that the papaya get very bushy very quick. They'll be 27 days when 12/12 comes along and theyll do a bit more growing after that. Im hoping to clone a couple once sex has been estd. Is it ok to reveg a clone, like stick it under 18hr lights straight after being cut?

Anyway iv a few beans germing away so theyll have plenty time to veg out before the first batch is done.
Peace

[Corkboyhigh]

Couple of pics

[fourkicks]

looking good man..

love your waven ebb n flow..its got me thinkin of somthing similar...

been dyin to try a hydro grow but im too used to dirt....

[Corkboyhigh]

Wavens ok but it would be better in square pipes, Its impossible to attach fittings to a curved pipe

[smokers]

corkboy how do you find them hydroton in that system?


fourkicks come over to the dark side without soil
:smokin:

[Corkboyhigh]

I had to use RW cubes to buffer them on both sides or it would just wash away. Made a load of holes in it with a screwdriver so the water flows freely. Im trying to come up with some kind of mesh that i can glue to the pipes and do away with the rw altogether.
I think the PH is sorted out now though, I fed with PH 5.2 this morning and the run off was 5.7

I was reading about Advanced Hydroponics Micro. They say it has ph buffers in the solution to help with micronutrient uptake. Looks like i made a good choice:clap:

[smokers]

why dont you use hydroton in net pots and suspend them off your pipes you will prob need new pipes tho

im using something similar with a sheet of timber lying flat over my big tray with holes for my net pots and then my res fills up to bottom of the pot
ill post some pics on my log later my grow isnt completely dead yet lol hanging in there

anyway just a suggestion
:smokin:

[Corkboyhigh]

Thats what im planning on doing next time round. It'l only be tenner for the pipes and ill drill out 3" holes with a holesaw and pop the net pots in like that.

Get some pics up of your plants in trouble, from what ive read almost anything is fixable with these fantastic plants.

Youre system would just as easily be used for DWC or bubbleponics if u got an airstone. No need for a pump or resevoir. Iv seen a lot like it

[smokers]

Thats what im planning on doing next time round. It'l only be tenner for the pipes and ill drill out 3" holes with a holesaw and pop the net pots in like that.

Get some pics up of your plants in trouble, from what ive read almost anything is fixable with these fantastic plants.

Youre system would just as easily be used for DWC or bubbleponics if u got an airstone. No need for a pump or resevoir. Iv seen a lot like it

i just got back the pet shop buying airstone and pump for a cloner 30 euro for a 9 site diy job will be using it later to see can i rescue whats left of my crop
i might adapt the airstone to my grow itself
:smokin:

[Corkboyhigh]

Update day 25, They seem to be doing ok except for one which has what i think is light burn, pic below. I trimmed off the damaged leaf and fimmed this one to see the results. It was the runt of the litter anyway.

They after bushing out bigstyle, only 5" tall but a foot across, one of em is still kinda small so im hoping that its not my only female??!

Started 12/12 on sun the 1st, they seem to be loving the nutes, no smell yet.

Temps were running real high so i had to invest in a good fan, got a kitchen extractor in b&q, does the trick nicely. I dont have a controller so i set it for 15 mins on 45 off. I had to change my intake vent to the ceiling because the air coming in was too cold. Taking air from the attic now so temps are holdin between 18-21. Gonna start them on bloom nutes next couple days. They were young so i kept em on grow nutes for a little longer.

Pics to follow

Peace

[Corkboyhigh]

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[Focus1]

Looking very nice man and quite complicated too lol

But keep up the good work and hopefully I can take some tips from your growing ;)

[smokers]

whats up man do you not think they are a bit young to flower?
or is it just cos its nearly christmas?
looking nice by the way
:smokin:

[Corkboyhigh]

on the website it says 4-6 weeks veg, 1 know 3 abd a bit is a bit young but all the lower branches are out and they wont get much taller so fuck it, if i get 2 weeks of growth after i switched 12/12 that'll be fine. Im not lookin for a monster harvest, just enough smoke to do me 8 wks. Iv got 3 female seedlings coming along that im gonna clone the shit out of. Then the REAL fun is gonna start:giggity:

[Corkboyhigh]

Wats up PPL,:thumbsup: its been a while so its time for an update. My 6 plants are now 3 definate females, lots of white hairs, and theyve gotten HUGE! I nearly killed them with nutes two weeks ago but after lots and lots of flushing they came through, new growth is beautiful and there is at least 12 budsites on each plant

Iv now got a secondary ebb and flow setup under cfl's for vegging, the LA woman seed never germ'd so i have one kush, one lemon skunk and one bagseed about two weeks old. The skunk is just gorgeous.

Pics will follow:thumbsup:
Peace

[Corkboyhigh]

Battery died on the camera so only got one i think:mad:

[smokers]

looking sweet man
:smokin:

[fourkicks]

there coming on man.. and looking real healthy
keep up the good work..
is this your first go at hydro?

[smokers]

whats up man do you not think they are a bit young to flower?
or is it just cos its nearly christmas?
looking nice by the way
:smokin:

ha what do i know they are looking sweet man
lemon skunk is tasty too nice choice
:smokin:

[Corkboyhigh]

ya fourkicks this is my first grow full stop. I helped a mate with a soil grow a few years back but didnt learn much.

You should see em now smokers one of ems a freak! its got 23 colas at the moment but new ones are emerging every day and its dwarfing the other two, ill try get a camera sorted and get pics up

Im having a serious problem leaving them alone!
about 3 weeks left.....

[nedstrn]

new to the site, have been thinkin of growing for awhile, just move to cork a week ago and alas have to go searchin for source, too much pissin about for my liking, only got a really small space to grow, lookin at this set up maybe only room for 1 or 2 babies, any idea's for a small grow?
:rasta:

[stoned1ndublin]

Hello every1, lookin to meet some irish tokers and growers,dia duit!

also any1 know much about dwarfing plants:stoned::stoned::rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

[fourkicks]

HAY CORKBOY..LONG TIME NO TALK...hope your well..i just posted a thread earlier..wondering if you can get me sorted out down in cork..you might save my life..let me now if you can..thanks mate..

[deeproots]

Alright bro

Just a few words to say you should always put in your nutes first and then check your p,h then and bring it down cause if you check you p,h and then add your nutes your p,h will always be difarent stoneoneindublin i set up a grope call irish tokers if you want to join just go to your profiel and go to gropes