Round 4: Kush Zone (150W HPS CAB)

[bombdiggity]

Yo wuts up everyone, welcome to my 4th grow. I literally just got my first clone for this grow from SFSHC - Afghani Kush

The clone looks OK, I guess. This is my first time growing from clone I figured it would save me a couple weeks of seedling stage.

My box dimensions are 3'Wx1'Dx3.5'H (very small) and in previous grows my yields have been around 2oz from 2-3 plants.

Will be using FoxFarm Grow Big and molasses during veg, still haven't decided what flower nutes I want to use.

I have a 150W HPS hanging from the top inline cooled by a 4" Vortex fan mounted on top (outside) the cab. Temps at canopy level are still in the low 80's so I will need to open another intake hole with some sort of filter that will keep light out (any suggestions?????)

Anyway, thats enough typing for now just check out these pics of my setup and the first clone in this Kush round.

[bombdiggity]

Check out this OG Headband that I'm toking on right now... shits dANK!

[dustoxx420]

remember when he was still young b4 the beard. lol :rastasmoke: but yea i like the strain og headband, the clinics here have NY Sour OG kush F1 clones its a double back cross of female sour og kush(sour diesel X og kush) and a male NYC to make the hybrid stable... its a dank:thumbsup: purple smoke. its my fav man, but hey have you tried investing like 50 bux on a drip kit, you can JOG(Jungle Of Green full canopy of light to each flowering node) up to 4 plants, cuz chuck man you gotta yeild as much as posible! no offense hydroponics:rambo: is the way of the future

[dustoxx420]

have you tried bonsai the plant and tieing it down

[bombdiggity]

have you tried bonsai the plant and tieing it down

Hi dustoxx420:

If you look at my previous grows in my signature you will see that I do LST the plants throughout the entire grow - I HAVE to thanks to my limited vertical space.

Thanks for stopping by :)

[deleafer2220]

I have read all previous grows and very impressed. Will be hopping aboard on this one. :smokin: Good luck Chuck.

[bombdiggity]

I have read all previous grows and very impressed. Will be hopping aboard on this one. :smokin: Good luck Chuck.

Thanks deleafer2220, good to have you here! Feel free to challenge Mr. Norris on this internet forum, but remember:

Chuck Norris doesn't go on the internet, he has every internet site stored in his memory. He refreshes webpages by blinking.

[bombdiggity]

Also, I switched to my 110W T5's today. Not digging the HPS for veg on this round.

Clone is not looking happy at all. Going to my coop today to get another Kush variety.

[DOUGAL25]

Also, I switched to my 110W T5's today. Not digging the HPS for veg on this round.

Clone is not looking happy at all. Going to my coop today to get another Kush variety.

I'll be watching as I'm getting the same hps light (pretty much) soon. Does that light really generate that much heat? Probably a small cab like that would really be affected by temp increase from the hps.
:stoned:

[bombdiggity]

Yeah, I have a 4" Vortex inline cooling it and temps in my cab are about 4-6 deg above room temp. This could be a bit better if I had an additional passive intake hole. Problem with cooling this lamp is in order to inline cool it you need to remove the reflector which is right above the bulb - loosing that direction of light up into the duct. I have not figured out a way around this - and honestly it is a horrible design. I would not recommend that light to anybody.

[bombdiggity]

So I got another clone Thursday. This one is Hindu Kush.

Neither look too great. See pics below.

Pic 1: Overview
Pic 2: New Clone (Hindu Kush)
Pic 3: Original clone (Afghan Kush)
Pic 4: Closeup of the Afghan Notice only the top leaves look somewhat healthy
Pic 5: Current Temp.


The new growth (tip top of the plant) on the Afghan looks good so I'm really thinking it will pull out of this. The Hindu kush arrived nearly broken off from its root mass (???). Barely hanging on by the skin of its teeth!! :(. It however looks much better than the Afghan and does appear to be showing new growth.

Guess I'll just hope for the best.


Oh yeah, started feeding Botanicare Pro Grow at seedling dosage.

[dustoxx420]

Hey um i hate to point out things, but that wood in the soil mix can make your grow medium more acidic. try perlite to hold more water than the wood it will be better in the long run, Cuz your Afghan looks like it going though ph shock do you have a tester? get one Ph is crucial cuz on average Cali tap water is like 8.5 in the LA area which is a tad two high it needs treatment the clone looks like it going into a nutrient lock.

but hell a perfect temp, also man your intake light problem can be solved by taking some authentic white reflective plastic (form your local hydroponics dealer) and with a staple gun, staple the plastic one inch from the inside of your cabinet on the top and roll it down since it inside the plants will receive fresh air i hope you can understand my description.

oh this is how high i am, ( :Tomcat: )

[bombdiggity]

Pic Update (pics snapped today)

Sorry dont have much time to explain.


Pic 1: The whole family
Pic 2: Afghan Kush
Pic 3: Afghan Closeup
Pic 4: Hindu Kush (eww.. ph problem most likely as stated above but I have no ph equipment yet.. previous grows have been fine with untreated water)
Pic 5: New seedling "Bubba OG Kush" (bagseed).

I ordered a Blue Mystic fem seed about a week ago and will be using it in this grow, despite its lack of kush genetics. I really love blueberry strains :). Should be arriving any day now...

[dustoxx420]

WOOD IS BAD MANNN!!!! lol

[bombdiggity]

dude, like i said i've used this soil successfully for all my 3 previous grows.

SERIOUSLY doubt its the soil.

[bombdiggity]

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[dustoxx420]

LOL

[bluntpasser]

everything is looking great bomb, nice setup.:thumbsup: sorry to hear about the recent problem.

[dustoxx420]

Jamrock! :jointsmile:

[bombdiggity]

So I got my Blue Mystic seed started as of 10/8. Broke soil yesterday and is looking good today. This seed is in seed starter mix and I may just keep it in this mix for the entire grow, to do a side by side with my other soil which may be causing problems for me.

I tossed the Hindu clone :(

Pictures soon :D

[dustoxx420]

So I got my Blue Mystic seed started as of 10/8. Broke soil yesterday and is looking good today. This seed is in seed starter mix and I may just keep it in this mix for the entire grow, to do a side by side with my other soil which may be causing problems for me.

I tossed the Hindu clone :(

Pictures soon :D

Dude, Im sorry your clone didnt make it, ph values are core in a plants life when you get the chance order one off e bay for a 10 bux Jamrock :rastasmoke::rastabong::rastabong:

[deleafer2220]

Just found out about the message Chuck....wondering where the updates are at... Got a new grow going on my end let me know what you think...Hope everything going good :rasta:

[bombdiggity]

Hey deleafer, everything is great!!!!

Sorry havent had any updates in a while. Things were moving pretty slowly but we are now in FULL SWING VEG!!! WOOHOO.

I'm left with my Blue Mystic fem. and the Afghan Kush. I will post pictures in about 10 minutes

[bombdiggity]

Correction: I will have pictures uploaded tonight my girlfriend has the camera right now :thumbsup:

[deleafer2220]

Good stuff i've been in veg for about a month...switching over tonight...will start flower nutes this week...will be waiting on pics of how things look :jointsmile:

[bombdiggity]

Pics 1-2: Blue Mystic
Pic 3: Afghan Kush

[deleafer2220]

Good Stuff :jointsmile:

[bombdiggity]

Good Stuff :jointsmile:

Thanks buddy! Seems my PH issue sorted itself out for now atleast...


I set my timer to 12/12 today. I know that my Blue Mystic is not mature yet, but the clone is starting to grow like crazy and I need to get the flowering process started before she outgrows my cabinet.

So, I guess tomorrow will be Day 1 of flowering.

I gotta go double check my light traps and start mixing some flowering nutes solution!

Peace!

bomb :cool:

[deleafer2220]

Glad pH seemed to manage on this grow.. i threw mine in flowering 2 days ago..still no balls or pistils, but took couple clones anyways...mixed nutrients last night..now its a waiting game from here on out hah...deff. investing on lights next go around and will be using CFL's for sides. Can't wait to see next update and find out what they are :rasta:

[bombdiggity]

Well the clone is female and the seed is feminized so that will be female as well :thumbsup:

just a waiting game from here and feeding every 3 days or so. Water only on every 3rd feeding.

Using molasses at 1tbsp/Gal from here on out. Actually been using 1/2tbsp up until now my plants seem to love it and I'm sure the Mg helps.

[bombdiggity]

Day 2 12/12

Just a quick update. I decided that I will try an experiment and use my veg T-5's about a week to week and a half into flower to reduce the stretch. I'm hoping that the 12 hours darkness will still trigger flower even though I'm using the color spectrum for veg.

I also switched to my flower nutes - Age Old Bloom. Used 1tsp/Gal and 1Tbsp/gal of molasses.

As you can see I have started LST to keep them very short.

Here are some pictures!

Pics 1-2: Blue Mystic (Blueberry x Skunk)
Pics 3-4: Afghan clone (weird mostly 3 finger leaves....)

[caligrown82807]

:thumbsup: looks damn good if i do say so myself :jointsmile:

[bombdiggity]

:thumbsup: looks damn good if i do say so myself :jointsmile:

thanks caligrown :rastasmoke:

Switched to my HPS today. Will post pictures tomorrow!

[dustoxx420]

Day 2 12/12

Just a quick update. I decided that I will try an experiment and use my veg T-5's about a week to week and a half into flower to reduce the stretch. I'm hoping that the 12 hours darkness will still trigger flower even though I'm using the color spectrum for veg.

I also switched to my flower nutes - Age Old Bloom. Used 1tsp/Gal and 1Tbsp/gal of molasses.

As you can see I have started LST to keep them very short.

Here are some pictures!

Pics 1-2: Blue Mystic (Blueberry x Skunk)
Pics 3-4: Afghan clone (weird mostly 3 finger leaves....)




AWw helll yea man you'll be okay as long as your timers on 12/12 and no outside light no other light spectrum can fuck with it. i got a 150 hps too, but ima get a 175w mini MH to Give my cab a kick for next cycle

GO Prop 215!

[bombdiggity]

12/12 Day 8!

Afghan is showing some pistils, not sure if you can see them in the pictures but they are there :thumbsup:. Blue Mystic still not showing alternating nodes and is plugging along in veg still - does not seem to mind the 12/12 not stretching very much at all.

Here are some pics!

Pic1: My two ladies, left Afghan Kush, right Blue Mystic.
Pic2: Afghan Kush
Pic3: Afghan Kush
Pic4: Blue Mystic
Pic5: Blue Mystic

[monny10]

Subscribed bombdiggity!

hope both our Afghani grows go well!

:thumbsup:

[deleafer2220]

Looking good....sending good vibrations man..since my girl showed me her sack -_-

[bombdiggity]

Looking good....sending good vibrations man..since my girl showed me her sack -_-

Sorry to hear that deleafer, I guess my vibes didn't do the trick :( sorry bro

Thanks for stoppin in tho, dont be a stranger!

[bombdiggity]

Day 11 of Flowering...

My Afghan clone is spitting out more hairs and starting to progress quicker, although I expect it to be a runt and not produce much. We'll see. The Blue Mystic is still in veg I believe, has not shown its hairs yet and I dont see any preflowers. It is staying very compact and is developing tons of secondary growth despite the 12/12 light schedule.

Here are some pics from about 10 minutes ago...

Pic 1: Overall View
Pic 2-4: Blue Mystic (notice how close the nodes are!!! I'm stoked!)
Pic 5: Afghan Kush (you can see the pistils if you expand the picture to actual size)

Let me know what you guys think! Peace :rastasmoke:

[LetsSeeYa]

My man your going to have some mad buds on them beauties:thumbsup::rasta:

[bombdiggity]

Hell yeah! Lets hope so :thumbsup:

Day 14 Flowering (end of week2)

Afghan Kush is starting to stink real bad lol :jointsmile:

Pic1: Afghan on Left, Blue Mystic on right
Pic 2 & 3: closeup of Afghan pistils
Pic 4 & 5: blue mystic

[Shovelhandle]

looks swell.

[bombdiggity]

Thanks Shov,

I'm very disappointed though because looking back at my previous grows this one is very small in comparison and I don't expect the same yield :(. I'll be lucky to get more than an ounce.

But hey, this is a learning experience for me still, even after 4 grows. When I upgrade I will have this 100% dialed-in.

:jointsmile:

[bombdiggity]

Stupid Blue Mystic is still in veg :wtf::wtf:

[bombdiggity]

Pistils showing on the Blue Mystic as of today, it is turning into quite the nice little bush!

Pictures tomorrow

[Jboogs]

Yo Bomb, how would you compare your last 2 grows with the HPS to your first 2 grows with only the T5? ....as far as yield is concerned....

[bombdiggity]

Yo Bomb, how would you compare your last 2 grows with the HPS to your first 2 grows with only the T5? ....as far as yield is concerned....

Hey Jboogs - my yield has been just slightly better with the HPS (maybe 1/4oz more out of same space and pots). The advantage to the HPS is more of the density of the buds more than the actual yield. I also think the quality is better. Drawbacks are high heat from the HPS, and uneven distribution of light compared to the T5's.

[bombdiggity]

Day 24 Flowering


Just some pictures. Stupid Afghan plant is pissing me off I'm about to throw it away and get a Diesel Ryder or something to harvest same time as the Blue Mystic..

[bluntpasser]

Yummy strains Bomb. And nice setup:thumbsup:

[deleafer2220]

Looking good DG Keep it uP !:rastasmoke:

[dustoxx420]

Day 24 Flowering


Just some pictures. Stupid Afghan plant is pissing me off I'm about to throw it away and get a Diesel Ryder or something to harvest same time as the Blue Mystic..

hydo is the way man for decent yeilds for 150 w. hps try investing 32 bux for ph nutes, lava rock, 10 gal tote and a pump.

[monny10]

Hey bombdiggity!

Its been a while since I've been on man, my internet connection has been fucked up!

Your girls are looking GOOD! :thumbsup:

My Afghan Girls are still in Veg although I'm gonna start the flowering cycle tonight under the envirolite.... They're getting too big in my Veg box waiting on my 150w HPS to arrive!

How much do you think you'll yield off those beauties when the're ready?

I'm so excited! I cant wait to start flowering!

Monny

[bombdiggity]

Hey bombdiggity!

Its been a while since I've been on man, my internet connection has been fucked up!

Your girls are looking GOOD! :thumbsup:

My Afghan Girls are still in Veg although I'm gonna start the flowering cycle tonight under the envirolite.... They're getting too big in my Veg box waiting on my 150w HPS to arrive!

How much do you think you'll yield off those beauties when the're ready?

I'm so excited! I cant wait to start flowering!

Monny

Hey Monny,

Thanks for coming by and the nice comments! The Afghan will not yield well, and it is not because I am in soil (but thanks dustoxx). I feel I did not veg long enough for a clone. I may only get a handful of grams off of that plant.

The Blue Mystic however I am going to shoot for an ounce. Its in a 1.5gal pot so that may be the max I could get out of it anyway.

[mainegrown]

i finally caught up and i got a couple questions if you dont mind..
i was wondering if you really think that a gal and a half will yield only an oz?? do i need to go get bigger pots?
and what does the molasses do??
thanks for the info -J

[bombdiggity]

i finally caught up and i got a couple questions if you dont mind..
i was wondering if you really think that a gal and a half will yield only an oz?? do i need to go get bigger pots?
and what does the molasses do??
thanks for the info -J

hey mainegrown -

i really do think that with my light the 1.5gal pot will yield about 1oz. You should get bigger pots if you have the space.

molasses helps with flavor and tric production I believe, I added it after my second grow and noticed a big difference.

Anyway, here is a quick update!

I cut down the Afghan, and am letting the Blue Mystic soak up the 150W HPS. I may add a feminised seed to this grow and just do a 12/12 from seed alongside this plant as it flowers. Considering doing a lowryder for this.

[bombdiggity]

Quick Update

I am not sure what day of flowering this is, because when I flipped to 12/12 she wasn't mature enough yet, and waiting a long time to start showing pistils.

I will just judge by a microscope when the time comes. She does seem to be fairly sativa dom. with thin leaves and a very sweet aroma.


Also, there is a picture of the bowl I smoked before taking the plant pics :). Oh and dont worry, I took that hair out before I smoked it lol :)

[bombdiggity]

also just noticed the clump of dust stuck to one of the buds..


gah!

:mad::mad:

[bluntpasser]

great plants bomb, glad to hear your box is running smoothly..:thumbsup:

[monny10]

Hey bombdiggity!

LOOKING GOOD ma friend!

An ounce is good man! I'll be really happy with an ounce per plant!

I think I may have fucked up with my pot sizes though (too small)

I've decided to run a 150w hps for my grow box too.... just got everything all set up yesterday! check out my log and tell me what you think!

Afghan Kush 1st Timer :)

All advice and support welcome!

Cheers!

[mainegrown]

hey i havent had time too look around much.. been busy
but i had time now and i think they look great man
hope you get mad weight...ha ha
-J

[monny10]

hope you get mad weight...ha ha
-J

Haha! thanks mainegrown! :)

Hey Bombdiggity! :)

How are the Girls doing? Not had an update in a while.... :stoned:

[deleafer2220]

Glad to see all going good ! Have a very merry Christmas pal !

[Shovelhandle]

"also just noticed the clump of dust stuck to one of the buds...gah!"

<G> I always seem to have hairs and dirt on my plants when I photo. It's no biggie.

Shov

[monny10]

hi bombdiggity, :)

been looking forward to an update man....:( whats been happenin?

[dustoxx420]

hi bombdiggity, :)

been looking forward to an update man....:( whats been happenin?



Hes soo gone i think he got so high never came down G :S1: or tied up with his old lady

[bombdiggity]

Oh shit I never posted harvest pics on this thread! Lol! At some point I ended up losing my internet access but the Blue Mystic turned out great I think I got just shy of an ounce dried.

Check out my new grow if you guys can - upgraded to a tent with a 600W HPS :D

much luv