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scadabout
09-17-2009, 06:00 PM
Hi everybody,
I just got my MMJ permit, and now I am confused....how do I find a dispensary?
I live out in no mans land..SE Washington State.
Any advice?

Thank You

killerweed420
09-17-2009, 09:33 PM
Dispensaries are illegal in Washington. There are some that are trying to make it work and so far no one in Washington has been arrested for using a dispensary but just be aware. I don't know of any in tri-cities area. I believe there was one in Yakima. A couple of them just got busted in Spokane this week.

Dreadscale
09-23-2009, 05:16 PM
Hi! If you are a medical marijuana card holder, in the Spokane, WA area, and are not growing all or any of your 15 plants, we can assist you, legally, as your primary caregiver or "Designated provider", by growing and providing you your medicine. Hello, and thanks for checking out our post. :) We are an collation of individuals that act as primary care givers or a "Designated provider" (pursuant to RCW 69.51A.010(1)), for medical marijuana card holders in the Spokane Area. If you are NOT growing all or any, of your 15 plants, then please contact us to learn about our program, and how we can legally be of service to you, in obtaining your medicine. If interested please fax a copy of your MM card and your ID, along with contact information to our Voice Mail/Fax: 206-203-2979 or please e-mail your MM card and your ID, and contact information to [email protected], and we will respond to you shortly. Thank you for your interest and we hope that you have a wonderful day! :rastasmoke:

RCW 69.51A.010
Definitions
The definitions in this section apply throughout this chapter unless the context clearly requires otherwise.

(1) "Designated provider" means a person who:

(a) Is eighteen years of age or older;

(b) Has been designated in writing by a patient to serve as a designated provider under this chapter;

(c) Is prohibited from consuming marijuana obtained for the personal, medical use of the patient for whom the individual is acting as designated provider; and

(d) Is the designated provider to only one patient at any one time.

I feel your statements quoted above would have a hard time, qualifying your collation of individuals as a designated provider.
At least a legal one.

ALSO, there is no STATE MMJ CARD in Washington at this time!!!

Dreadscale
09-24-2009, 04:31 AM
Did mess up this post?

I just don't like Miss Information!!

scadabout
09-26-2009, 06:02 PM
Ik'll send the info on to you

consciousgoods
09-27-2009, 07:52 PM
Why are dispensaries illegal in Wa? Where can Medical M card holders get their medicine? Are they expected to grow it themselves or what? That just doesnt make sense to me. Thanks for the help... trying to understand the business model in Washington.

killerweed420
09-28-2009, 02:31 AM
There is no business model in Washington.lol
You either grow your own or you have a caretaker grow for you. And the caretaker can only grow for one person.

killthemessngr
10-06-2009, 09:44 PM
check out budswa.com

bridge4
10-07-2009, 06:44 PM
There is no business model in Washington.lol
You either grow your own or you have a caretaker grow for you. And the caretaker can only grow for one person.

I believe in the law I also read that the caretaker cannot smoke what he
provides. That kinda strangles the issue too. I hope I'm wrong.

gypski
10-07-2009, 09:24 PM
Well I hope we are kept informed and updated about the raid in Spokane and how they are going about it with their legal defense and how the court rules. they should go for a jury trial and don't take any deals. :jointsmile:

bluntpasser
10-14-2009, 07:31 AM
Emerald cross is highly recommended for any help with acquiring your medicine. They are operating with approval from the police..does that make you feel safe?..A cop approved club....welcome to the emerald city:)

bluntpasser
10-14-2009, 07:36 AM
And Dreadscale,
If there is no mmj card in Washington..Why is thcf handing them out like brochures?...state mmj cards...yep..
Have people been released from jail because of the cards? yes. Court charges dropped, uh huh..
I bet they would even give one to you my friend.:)

Dreadscale
10-14-2009, 08:14 PM
And Dreadscale,
If there is no mmj card in Washington..Why is thcf handing them out like brochures?...state mmj cards...yep..
Have people been released from jail because of the cards? yes. Court charges dropped, uh huh..
I bet they would even give one to you my friend.:)

In Washington, there is no need for a MMJ Card. As defined in the law you need only proper documentation.

RCW 69.51A.010 Definitions.
The definitions in this section apply throughout this chapter
unless the context clearly requires otherwise.

(5) ??Valid documentation? means:
(a) A statement signed by a qualifying patient??s physician,
or a copy of the qualifying patient??s pertinent
medical records, which states that, in the physician??s
professional opinion, the potential benefits of the
medical use of marijuana would likely outweigh the
health risks for a particular qualifying patient; and
(b) Proof of identity such as a Washington state driver??s
license or identicard, as defined in RCW
46.20.035.[1999 c 2 ? 6 (Initiative Measure No. 692,
approved November 3, 1998).]

Just saying, there is NO MMJ CARD in Wa.

My wife is a patient of THCF and she has proper documentation but no CARD, also I don't qualify for a recommendation .

Have you seen a Washington State MMJ CARD? I didn't think so :)

bluntpasser
10-18-2009, 08:26 AM
Have i seen a card, I have a thcf MMJ card sir. Your wife should request one. It would be quite beneficial for her.:thumbsup:

scadabout
10-24-2009, 11:19 PM
got mine in the mail last week, picture and all.

Dreadscale
11-03-2009, 02:56 PM
Have i seen a card, I have a thcf MMJ card sir. Your wife should request one. It would be quite beneficial for her.:thumbsup:


got mine in the mail last week, picture and all.

Thanks for the input guys!!!

I still disagree with you on the state card though, there is none!!
A THCF MMJ card is not a state card. It is a THCF card.

Im not saying the THCF card is not valid documentation of a recomendation.
Im saying the state doesn't require one, and does not issue one.

Below are quotes fron the DOH, and a link to that info.

Do I have to register with or obtain a card from the state?
No. If you are a qualifying patient with a written recommendation from your doctor, that?s all you need.

The clinic I went to says I have to purchase a card or permit from them. Is this true?
No. There are groups or clinics in Washington that may charge a fee for you to see a doctor, but you are not required to visit a certain clinic or join an organization to get a medical marijuana recommendation from a doctor.


Medical Marijuana Frequently Asked Questions - Washington State Dept of Health (http://www.doh.wa.gov/hsqa/medical-marijuana/)

Have a Good one ! :hippy:

ZionsLion
11-03-2009, 04:36 PM
It amazes me how information gets garbled after it is repeated numerous times...

The STATE does not have or issue a card. CA, OR, probably others, have cards issued by the state (Like a drivers license)

WA has at least 3 (Doc in a box) companies who issue Authorizations. As a service to their customers, they issue an ID card. This is just a handy version of your Authorization and has no more or less significance than having your full sized authorization handy.

As far as the person who stated that they didn't understand the mandate to grow your own or have a caregiver and the caregiver can't smoke.

This is how our law was written to serve PATIENTS and not greedy "Compassion Clubs" The truth is that growing for your self is not as hard as people make it out to be, and is exponentially more rewarding.

jamessr
11-05-2009, 08:29 AM
Thank you zionslion, your exactly on point with what you posted. I have the same from sentry medical, a card from that company just like THCF is now doing. I would like to remind everyone here about THCF, they are in some hot water selling services in Wa. w/o the proper licensing under the corp. practice of medicine doctrine, please look it up for yourself, paul stanford as the EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MUST BE A LICENSED DOCTOR IN WASHINGTON STATE. I am only informing people for protection, not because I want to start any panic or have them go to sentry or elsewhere. I would be remiss if I didn't warn my fellow patients of this illegal activity. I am also a patient of THCF & have been for 10 years and must go to trial because of this....PLEASE LEGALLY PROTECT YOURSELF......:thumbsup:

I thought I was, until I was arrested with approx. an oz. and an open-ended authorization paul said was good for life... now he say's I must pay a foundation in Washington for more services. In Washington, a foundation under a 501 (c) 3 must give free medical services per the doctrine...although I have never ever seen Dr. Orvald in Wa. State...again, PLEASE LEGALLY PROTECT YOURSELF.:thumbsup:

Sincerely, james sr.

sandybarr
11-06-2009, 03:54 AM
I am sure the AG's office would love to shut down THCF,considering the conservative bastard that runs the open government farce,no longer can use it is still illegal federally excuse.You support those guys?????

What side are you on... for agencies????The movement leader had a habit of calling the FBI too.

jamessr
11-06-2009, 05:16 AM
Thank you for stopping this sillyness. I do appreciate and ask that I don't get banned for attempting to be informative to the public.

We will have a dispensary in Washington, once the kinks get worked out.

Trichromaster
11-14-2009, 03:55 AM
Go to gandgsupplies.com

cannabeastie
08-27-2010, 08:26 AM
It amazes me how information gets garbled after it is repeated numerous times...

The STATE does not have or issue a card. CA, OR, probably others, have cards issued by the state (Like a drivers license)

WA has at least 3 (Doc in a box) companies who issue Authorizations. As a service to their customers, they issue an ID card. This is just a handy version of your Authorization and has no more or less significance than having your full sized authorization handy.

As far as the person who stated that they didn't understand the mandate to grow your own or have a caregiver and the caregiver can't smoke.

This is how our law was written to serve PATIENTS and not greedy "Compassion Clubs" The truth is that growing for your self is not as hard as people make it out to be, and is exponentially more rewarding.
uh, I beg to differ. Growing your own, IS as hard as people make it out to be, I made it through two harvests, with about 3 ounces to show for it; off of 2 harvests, times 15 plants each, that's 30 plants... Yes, cannabis is a weed, and yes it grew well, but getting it to flower worth a damn, that's another question... Cannabis has very specific environmental requirements, and if you (a medical patient) can't meet those requirements, it's not going to do what you (a medical patient) want it to, which is to secrete various cannabinoids in large enough quantities over a large dense flowering framework. Now, if we were asking cannabis to provide for us the stongest known natural fiber, those conditions would be relaxed significantly. However, if you can't keep the temperatures in your growing area under 80 degrees farenheit, and I assure you, doing that indoors is much harder (expensive) than you might think, you will NOT be able to grow medical grade cannabis. Indoor horticultural gear DOES NOT come cheap. If you don't happen to live somewhere good for growing outdoors, which is pretty much most of America, you MUST grow indoors. Additionally, the law states that cannabis must be concealed from the public, further neccesitating indoor horticulture. Believe you me, growing your own is simply not within the capabilites of many, if not most, patients. Or at least it's out of mine. Most expensive hobby I ever quit.

justpics
08-27-2010, 09:53 AM
according to a friend that owns a horticulture store in CA, just under 90% of people that buy stuff from him return it all and quit growing.


the fact of the matter is that if you stick it out for 2 years, with a budget of at least $1,000 to start. You will be successful. But it takes most people about 2 years, and that $1K only gets you started, you will have recurring expenses, which are less than the meds you should eventually get.

But ya, most don't have 2 years to learn. Or a mentor to make them have success off that bat.

killerweed420
08-27-2010, 06:20 PM
Yeah you can look at craigslist and find all kinds of used growing equipment for sale.
I think one of the biggest problems is people try to make it too complicated when they first start. It has a learning curve, the same as anything in life and some people just aren't gardeners.

tigggerz
08-30-2010, 05:39 AM
Eventually you will meet enough people to help you out with your problem. I just started growing, so give me some time to help.

robz123
08-31-2010, 05:25 PM
My son got his reccomendation yesterday on his very first visit to his new primary care doc. She told him her written reccomendation is all he needed. The Thcf card is for patients that can't find a regular primary care doc to reccomend it. That's how I precieve it anywho.

postableme
09-04-2010, 02:13 AM
My son got his reccomendation yesterday on his very first visit to his new primary care doc. She told him her written reccomendation is all he needed. The Thcf card is for patients that can't find a regular primary care doc to reccomend it. That's how I precieve it anywho.

As of June 10, 2010, the hard cards you see from some places are NOT valid as authorizations unless they were done prior to 6/10/10. The ones handed out after that date are pretty much worthless except as a sort of membership card for the clinic it came from.

As of June 10, 2010, a valid authorization can only be printed on tamper-resistant paper, which those hard cards are not. (Some folks have laminated their tamper-resistant authorizations, which I don't recommend. While it doesn't invalidate the authorization, it does make it difficult for LEO out in the field to test the authenticity of the authorization since they can't physically *get* to the paper itself... and I've never seen a policecar with a xerox machine in it to be able to photocopy it to test for the watermarks.)

Some clinics/doctors have begun giving patients small card-sized laminated authorizations printed on the tamper-resistant paper. Those do qualify as valid authorizations, as far as I can tell.

------------------------

The law states very clearly what an authorization is:

Chapter 69.51A RCW: Medical marijuana (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=69.51A&full=true)

69.51A.010
Definitions.

(5) "Tamper-resistant paper" means paper that meets one or more of the following industry-recognized features:

(a) One or more features designed to prevent copying of the paper;

(b) One or more features designed to prevent the erasure or modification of information on the paper; or

(c) One or more features designed to prevent the use of counterfeit valid documentation.

(7) "Valid documentation" means:

(a) A statement signed and dated by a qualifying patient's health care professional written on tamper-resistant paper, which states that, in the health care professional's professional opinion, the patient may benefit from the medical use of marijuana; and

(b) Proof of identity such as a Washington state driver's license or identicard, as defined in RCW 46.20.035.

Applicability of valid documentation definition.

The provisions of RCW 69.51A.010, relating to the definition of "valid documentation," apply prospectively only, not retroactively, and do not affect valid documentation obtained prior to June 10, 2010.

jamessr
09-04-2010, 03:32 AM
The cards from clinics are "approved" tamper-proof, it is in the law if read correctly. :D

The key "active" words are -->"**features** designed to prevent".<--<

postableme
09-04-2010, 06:48 PM
The cards from clinics are "approved" tamper-proof, it is in the law if read correctly. :D

The key "active" words are -->"**features** designed to prevent".<--<

If the cards are plastic, then NO, they are not valid authorizations. The law clearly states that authorizations must be printed on tamper-resistant paper, not plastic.

killerweed420
09-05-2010, 07:06 PM
They write them on tamper-resistant paper then laminate them.

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09-07-2010, 11:26 PM
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postableme
09-08-2010, 06:49 PM
They write them on tamper-resistant paper then laminate them.

Some do, yes. Those, as I said above, are valid authorizations as far as I can tell and in the spirit of the law. But those that are hard plastic and not laminated w/ tamper resistant paper are not unless they were issued before June 10, 2010.

rockcopper
09-08-2010, 07:07 PM
holistic center in Kent good meds and clones

killerweed420
09-10-2010, 08:04 PM
I believe in the law I also read that the caretaker cannot smoke what he
provides. That kinda strangles the issue too. I hope I'm wrong.

The caretaker can smoke MMJ, they just have to be careful if LEO shows up that he doesn't say he smoked yours. They need to have there own personal supply set aside and have his own legal documentaion that he is a legal MMJ patient.