Oh the sadness is overwelming....

[eastbaygordo]

Damn, first I get bug burn/rot, then it's 103 in September, then followed by tiny black winged creatures sucking on purple cola leaves killing them, followed by nice cool weather but winds strong enough to break branches with nice colas. I had to cut two branches off prematurely, it is splitting right at the point it attaches to the main stalk.

Oh yeah, don't put wet flowers in a humidor unless you like moldy stuff.

This reminds me of brewing beer, it was way fun mixing the wort and watching the fermentation but cleaning the bottles and making sure nothing bad happened in the process was a pain.

This final few few weeks of life for the ladies has been more eventful than all the past months put together.

Any thoughts on preventative maintenance I could do to the ladies? Should I tie up all the stems with twine. Should I just move them indoors to finish the last stage? I have 2 600 watt lights ready in the garage but no air conditioning.

[eastbaygordo]

I gave up after looking at the photo of botrytis ruining a whole crop starting chapter 14 on plant problems in the Cannabis Growers Bible.

It is spreading fast and exacerbated by morning dew. It looks like all the ripe bugs get it once they get damp.

Wish me luck on the curing.

Big Shout Out to Brock Savage....

[Rusty Trichome]

Bummer. But this kinda makes me wonder...
A) why didn't somebody with practical outdoor experience offer any help? All of a sudden the outdoor growers don't have the expertise, or at least an opinion to help a fellow member in need? :wtf:
B) I know this is the plant problems section, which is usually the place for plant problems...but did you go into the outdoor forum and ask them there?

The only practical advise I could have offered, was to take 'em inside where you control the enviornment. Cannabis deals with the heat pretty good, and I gurantee they deal with heat better than they deal with the combination of bud rot, insects and winds strong enough to break branches.

There's a link in my signature regarding dealing with (indoor) heat issues if interested. Been 102 to 111 this past week here, and I flower in a small shed outdoors, with 2 400w HPS's. (and a cheap, small a/c) I have NEVER lost a plant due to heat, but I do monitor them throughout the day.

Sincerely...better luck next time, and good luck with the cure. :jointsmile:

[eastbaygordo]

I had a few pieces of bud dried but not cured, not even the pretty stuff, and it tasted nice and got me ripped more than I can remember including some 28% purp from Harborside, my back pain is much less as I type and I feel kinda spacey/relaxed. My wife, a non smoker, noted how gooey it looked coming out of the grinder, she never notices that stuff but she did today.
I have some half gallon mason jars I'm going to use for curing.

Thanks for the reply Rusty.

[eastbaygordo]

Boy the shoe sure is on the other foot.
I so confidently referred another person to the grow bible about drying yet my own attempts are not so great.
I put some in jars too early and my fan is blowing directly on the upside down ladies in spite of it causing uneven drying.
My problem is attractiveness. Most weed I buy looks pretty and is a nice color appropriate for the strain. Mine is getting dark and weird looking, even the stuff that isn't damaged. It smokes very very (I know it isn't cured but wtf we only live once) well with an OK taste and a mind blowing high with good pain relief. I want to make sure some looks good enough to share and show to classmates.

If I do run into a botrytis mold issue and/or I already have it (my valley is a huge wine region) does the milk spray solution make the weed taste or smell like sour milk? If so then its just as ruined as if it molded over.

Any tips on this for a first timer? Note I had a botrytis issue that forced me to harvest early and I have a lot of discolored/brown leaves that won't pull off easily so they touch good bud as it folds over eventually.

[eastbaygordo]

Bummer. But this kinda makes me wonder...
A) why didn't somebody with practical outdoor experience offer any help? All of a sudden the outdoor growers don't have the expertise, or at least an opinion to help a fellow member in need? :wtf:
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Everyone is busy, seems like a lot of folks are getting it (bud rot of some sort but mostly botrytis) this year all over the world.
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B) I know this is the plant problems section, which is usually the place for plant problems...but did you go into the outdoor forum and ask them there?

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You are correct, I selected the wrong variety/clone for an inhospitable valley for a moderate weather plant. The bible said the purple kush I have the problem with has a mold issue and needed to be watered from below and I did that most of the time except the one time when trying to protect them from a heat wave did I water overhead and my problems began. I guess I either need a perfect grow environment or to not grow this strain.
I did learn alot. My biggest problem was putting two plants in one pot and no amending the soil enough to start off. Why do I say this? In two cases I moved plants mid-veg into other containers well amended with blood and boan meal and other time release nutrients and these plants look lovely and budded much much bigger as compared to their sister who is stuck in the older crappy peat moss bases soil. My bogglegum looks and smells like candy. Hope I don't mess it up.
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The only practical advise I could have offered, was to take 'em inside where you control the enviornment. Cannabis deals with the heat pretty good, and I gurantee they deal with heat better than they deal with the combination of bud rot, insects and winds strong enough to break branches.

There's a link in my signature regarding dealing with (indoor) heat issues if interested. Been 102 to 111 this past week here, and I flower in a small shed outdoors, with 2 400w HPS's. (and a cheap, small a/c) I have NEVER lost a plant due to heat, but I do monitor them throughout the day.

Sincerely...better luck next time, and good luck with the cure. :jointsmile:


Thanks for the input and the link to the shed.
I've had a lot of success already making edibles out of shake and lots of people liked them. Worst case scenario I make some nice oils and butters that knock your socks off and eat special chocolate chip cookies all winter.

Correcting my earlier shout out...It's to BrockSampson not Savage...I'm a typical stoner in some ways...I forget names.

[Rusty Trichome]

My problem is attractiveness. Most weed I buy looks pretty and is a nice color appropriate for the strain. Mine is getting dark and weird looking, even the stuff that isn't damaged. If it's turning dark during cure, might still be a tad too moist, or perhaps it's the nitrogen still present...? When you put it in the jar, was it still moist to the touch?


If I do run into a botrytis mold issue and/or I already have it (my valley is a huge wine region) does the milk spray solution make the weed taste or smell like sour milk? If so then its just as ruined as if it molded over. Doesn't sound very tasty, but have never used it. I live in the desert, where humidity is high enough for mold maybe 8 or 10 days a year. But I use more fan action if humidity problems persist, and delay watering or I'll water with lesser ammounts till ambient humidity is kinder.


Any tips on this for a first timer? Note I had a botrytis issue that forced me to harvest early and I have a lot of discolored/brown leaves that won't pull off easily so they touch good bud as it folds over eventually Arguably, drying to the point of curing isn't as important as the cure itself. If you have mold issues already, might want to speed-up the drying process a tad.

Keeping in mind I only grow for myself, (but I am hard to please) I personally haven't slow-dried (hanging upside down, drying intact branches) in years. Immediately after harvest, I disassemble the buds down to about 2" cube size buds, let sit out on a cookie sheet to dry, (flipping them daily, light fan if necessary for humidity) then into the cure jar. With some indica doms, I quick-dry. 150 degrees f. and keep an eye on 'em...30 to 60 minutes depending if on dehydrate setting or just the warm setting. Check every 10 minutes till you have it timed right, and smoke the results. My sativa doms taste like crap if I quick dry though. Even after curing.

[eastbaygordo]

I read the chapter/faqs about drying and curing and I didn't prune before chopping so I spent a few hours trimming up the bogglegum. Fingers smell like jelly beans and they look much better. Going to make bang milk with the trim.
I was taking a break and now back to manicuring.

[BrockSampson]

ahh dude i feel for you.
i just had to pull another of my girls down,
she decided to have gender issues last minute,
and im not at the school anymore gordo, so next time you make cookies you can alert me through the board :D

[BrockSampson]

btw

EASTBAYGORDO MAKES KICKASS CHOCOLATECHIP COOKIES

[UpstateGorilla]

I have been told that a mixture of 1/4tsp baking soda mixed per gallon of water with a drop of dish soap.is an effective way to treat and prevent botyrytis. I am currently having problems with bud rot myself and have been inquiring about this method myself. I am hopeful someone with outdoor expertise will shed some light on this method of treatment/ prevention. As soon as i hear something i will post the info here also.

[Joefarmer]

Compost tea is proven to be effective against many diseases such as Botrytis or Grey Mold. I apply throughout vegging, this gets them pretty resistant. Then I apply as needed throughout the rest of the lifecycle.

[Rusty Trichome]

A little scientific info regarding compost tea's. Good idea to read the whole article.

Compost Tea Myth (http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~linda%20chalker-scott/Horticultural%20Myths_files/Myths/magazine%20pdfs/CompostTea.pdf)