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Sativus
03-30-2005, 11:33 AM
i got the general idea from og oil extraction faq. i took a copper pipe and put an end cap on it. i drilled a tiny hole big enough to stick the tip of the butane in it. the other end is a hose clamp with screen attached. i stuffed it full of trim from the jar i keep and squirted a whole can of butane in it. use oven mits if you try it, that pipe turns freezing cold. dont smoke either, you will blow yourself up. then the juice drips out into a bowl, mine was a little green, but it looks like honey oil. so i did that a couple times, went to the store, and when i got back the butane was evaporated and i had honey oil i scraped up. it works, but make sure the butane dont stink before you try it.

Sativus
04-01-2005, 11:08 AM
oh yeah, i might add that you dont get a lot of oil from it, so whether its worth the effort or not is up to you. you might be better off making hash.

Zandor
04-01-2005, 07:36 PM
I got this years ago and saved it. I don't know the source so I can't take credit for this but I hope it helps you.

You will need at least 12oz of butane for every 1oz of plant material.

METHOD:

1) In one of the Pipe end caps, drill a single small hole in the center. This hole should be correctly sized to snugly receive the little outlet nozzle of your butane can.

2) In the other end cap, drill a group of 5 or 6 small holes clustered in the center (like a pepper shaker).

3) After putting a piece of paper towel or coffee filter inside it for filtration, put the end cap with several holes on one end of the pipe. Push it on there real tight. This is the bottom.

4) Fill the pipe up with plant matter that has been pulverized into a coarse powder. You want it filled, but not packed down. (Full pipe estimated at 1.5 oz capacity, but this is a guess. I did not weigh it.)

5) Place the top end cap on the pipe. Again, push it on as securely as you can by hand.

6a) Find a location outdoors with a decent breeze. You want these butane fumes to be quickly carried away. Seriously.

6b) Mount the pipe (single hole-side up) over a vessel that can hold 300mL+. Beakers are perfect. A lab stand and clamp are ideal for the mounting, but a regular shop clamp or anything that can hold it sturdily is fine. (Avoid metal if you can, to reduce the chance of sparks.)

Position the bottom end of the pipe immediately over (1-2") the receiving
vessel to eliminate splatter loss.

7) Turn the butane gas can upside down and dispense the gas into the pipe via the single top hole. A whole 8-oz can takes about 10-12 seconds to evacuate. Be brave, swift, and careful. A spark at this moment would spell disaster since you have basically created an incendiary explosive device that is leaking.

8) When you've exhausted the can into the pipe, back off to a nice distance and let it do its thing. The butane moves down the pipe, extracting the cannabis as it goes. When it gets to the bottom (~30 seconds after dispensing), it begins to drain into the receiving vessel. Notice the pale, glowing yellow-green-gold hue of the extract. It is obvious no chlorophyll was pulled out of the herb.

Over approximately five to eight minutes, the butane extract will finish draining from the pipe to the receiving vessel. Maintain caution with the pipe, however, since there is a lot of residual butane still evaporating from within the pipe (notice the stream of fumes coming from the top hole).

When it slows down to a drop every few seconds, you can tap on the top hole with your finger and it will help push the last of the liquid butane out (or one can gently blow into the top hole to do the same thing). Remember, NO SMOKING, unless you wish to immolate yourself in grand fashion.

Being very low-boiling and volatile, the collected butane will likely begin boiling at ambient temperature. The receiving vessel will gradually frost up as the butane cools it down, slowing down its rate of evaporation, but you can speed this up again simply by holding it in your hands.

A better way is to set it in a saucepan containing a little bit of warm water. Watch the butane start bubbling madly with the increase in temperature and marvel at its low boiling point. Again, be doing this outdoors with a nice breeze! It takes about 20 minutes or so to allow the butane to evaporate, or quicker if you help it along. You are left with a deep amber, almost orange oil of amazing purity.The best way to collect and store the oil is probably to let all of the butane evaporate off and then redissolve the oil in some anhydrous or high-% alcohol, and then pour this into a vial and let it sit out for a day or two to allow the alcohol to evaporate.

Trying to transfer the oil into a small container while it is still solvated by the butane is too risky. I learned the hard way about this, thanks to the volatile temperament of butane. I had filled a vial almost all the way to the top and was preparing to drop those last couple drops in, so that cleverly, I could let the last of the butane evaporate from the vial and the oil would all be neatly contained. But when the last drop hit the mother lode in the vial, it changed the temperature of the solution in the vial upward by a hair and it all "superboiled" out of the vial and onto my fingers, which of course startled me and caused me to drop the vial. I suggest dissolving it in alcohol as I mentioned above. If you can get pure or 99% isopropanol (isopropyl), use it, because THC's photosensitivity reportedly does not occur in isopropanol.

The final product is a deep yellow-amber oil of the highest quality, incredibly pure and potent. I remember well some of the prime "honey oil" hash oils that hit the market in the late 1970s, and this stuff stands up to (if not exceeds) any of them. It's amazing how this method extracts only the good fraction and leaves the junk in the weed.

Nosehit
04-02-2005, 01:35 PM
Good tek :D
I use a 2" candle mold it already has the hole in it and I just tape or use rubber bands to hold cooffee filters over the effluent end.
I prefer to use Everclear to collect it. I've always wondered what it would be like to drink this mixture. I've only done about 7 or 8 fo these extractions but I use all the let overs from harvest and after I screen my trim I throw that in as well, almost like getting something for nothing.

Lucagrow
04-02-2005, 04:37 PM
We do a similar thing here in new zealand using iso butane, its not as fast though because you have to use a higher temperature to remove the iso from the honey oil, makes some nice smoke off of the first wash, the 2nd and 3rd gets a little too green for my liking though.

jadeius
04-14-2005, 07:07 PM
Nosehit, I have recently put some scraps of pot in a bottle of everclear, it's good to have as many scraps as you can, especially if you want to use stems and leaves, less potent parts. Grind everything pretty fine and put it in. Shake it up once in a while, but let it sit a lot too...wait a few days and drink...it has a funny taste, but it makes the everclear taste a little better and it makes the alcohol buzz more giggly and woozy.

the happy chappie
08-24-2005, 04:37 PM
hello mates,
zandor, do you know if would it still work if the fill hole was sealed up straight after the gas bottle was empted into it, or does it need to be open to allow gravity to pull it down with out the tube forming a vacume and stopping the flow.

i was just wondering,
basing things on using 22mm or larger copper pipe and brass compresion fittings, sealed with gas approved ptfa tape,
if i were to fit a one way valve at one end of the tube, then fit a blank into its opening with a small hole drilled into it to fit the nossle of the gas bottle, and a blank at the other with a series of small holes at the other i could this use this valve to control the flow of gas escaping, if the gas would hang in the tube, do you think it would be possible to extract the same amount of oil using less gas. or would this complecate things, i was thinking of having a bash at this later in the year, i was just trying to save a few pennys,.... and lesson the risk of blowing myself up haha,
peace mate ............... happy ................

Zandor
08-24-2005, 05:20 PM
It's not the gas you need. It's the liquid that reacts to the plant youâ??re after. The idea is to use a well-vented area and not to trap the gas or have any pressure. That would turn into a pipe bomb (not good). The liquid fills the chamber and you catch the run off. It's the run off that you want that is where the honey oil is. You want zero pressure and no flame around your work area so no smoking a joint while you are making honey oil. The liquid needs to be completely removed before you try any of it you should be left with a tar like sticky oil.

Water hash is safer.

the happy chappie
08-25-2005, 07:33 AM
thanks mate, i allready have the 3 bag bubble kit, that is realy cool and makes some beautifull hash, i was just curious about the oil, is the oil more powerfull than hash, i allways end up with piles of frosty leaves, so i might just risk a couple of ounces,
.................. peace ................... happy ....................

Zandor
08-25-2005, 06:20 PM
thanks mate, i allready have the 3 bag bubble kit, that is realy cool and makes some beautifull hash, i was just curious about the oil, is the oil more powerfull than hash, i allways end up with piles of frosty leaves, so i might just risk a couple of ounces,
.................. peace ................... happy ....................
The oil is different then the bubble hash.
You take a lot more risk making honey oil; the butane can turn that into a pipe bomb in no time at all. During the drying process use a hair dryer about 12" away to dry it faster or make it outside to save your house incase something happens.

I speak from experience and still have the scar from the last time I made honey oil. During the drying process the glass exploded.

Just be careful my friend.

the happy chappie
08-25-2005, 09:20 PM
hey thanks for the tip zandor, i hope that injury was not to bad, i shall deffinatly take care if i do this......
.............. peace ........... happy .............

latewood
08-26-2005, 08:16 AM
Sativus...Nice pipe, man...I saw the thread go crazy with honey recipes,
awesome info, always be careful, is the key!
I've been wanting to know how to do this
you did good job of spelling it out, Z, thanks