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TheStrainMan
08-27-2009, 10:48 PM
High folks! I've been reviewing dispensaries and covering various topics within the Colorado MMJ scene. Check it out and lemme know what you think

The Strain Man (http://www.thestrainman.blogspot.com)

Also, lets share dispensary experiences here in this thread. Here are some of mine that haven't made it to the blog yet:

First the good....

Boulder Alternative Medicine
BoulderMeds.com

Great place! Usually have at least 10 different strains for various budgets. Anywhere from $8 a gram for great tiny mix of nugs from the bottom of bags for rolling, all the way to $17 a gram for some of the best bud CO dispensaries have to offer. These guys are so cool that if you buy a gram or two, they'll actually CUT THE BUDS OFF THE STEMS before weighing so you pay for what you smoke, not what you throw out. I'll keep coming back here.

One Brown Mouse in Nederland
onebrownmouse.com
If you want great indoor, locally-grown high-altitude bud, this is your place. I like the town and the staff who also grow their own for the store and are very knowledgeable. Prices are great, too.. $14 a gram for primos like Sage and Sour Diesel.


The Bad.....

New Options wellness in Boulder
no website

These are the guys that got robbed, and ya feel those vibes in the staff with every heavy breath in the place. Despite their bad luck, honestly, their wares just suck. I opened and inspected every jar (and they had like 20 different strains) and it seems that no one there knows anything about proper drying and curing. Some of the jars smelled of ammonia!!! WTF! Also, many of their strains are mislabeled and not what they claim to be. Also over-priced at $20 a gram for their better selections when there's such better bud not a mile away.


The Ugly...

Pain Management of Colorado in Denver
colorado.medicalmarijuana.net

They'll sign you up for $350 and have a 70 year old doctor from the Dominican Republic who can't speak English that well. A bit shady in both dealings and location. They had 2 strains on hand when I checked it out and one was just crap, the other was an AK-47 which looked decent, but it just wasn't AK-47. They also have some edibles, but they are very weak. These guys are in it for the money and that's easy to see. BEWARE: If you use these guys to set you up, I hear they will make you select them as your primary caregiver, so you'll have to change that ASAP with the state.

HighPopalorum
08-28-2009, 01:56 AM
Unbelievable photography, man. :thumbsup:

I can't wait to sample some of that stuff next time I'm up in Boulder. I'll be checking your site!

topjazzman
08-28-2009, 02:05 AM
You are very right on Pain Mangement,They first opened in Dec.I was one of their first clients,no store ,the owner is Miles Zalkin from Fl. 350.00 was the price did not explain to me or show me that he was going to be my caregiver.sold me a z for 450.. was a ++ but only worth to me 300.or 325.My paper work was returned to me because his ck.was a new counter ck.with no business name.You are right in it FOR THE MONEY !!!!!!.thank god I have a very good caregiver with only a hand full of clients and grows organic.250.00 z.Thanks for your great reviews.most are in it for the money only when they sell gr.for 20.Peace Jazz

TheStrainMan
08-28-2009, 04:14 AM
Thanks guys!

TheStrainMan
08-30-2009, 06:03 AM
Botanic Labs in Longmont has among the best of best meds I've seen. $20 per gram up to 7 grams, but cannot purchase more than 7 grams from Matt, as he likes to spread the wealth among many. Relatively speaking, it'll beat most other grams out there for $20+. Best bag appeal cause he's his own source growing only what he likes to smoke himself; while the rest of us get to bask in his skills. Every jar out of the 12 or so had the best and varied aromas eminating from both local-only and main-stream strains.

He had Maui, AK-47 cherry pheno, Kush, Hong Kong, Boulderberry(from a Boulder blueberry clone), and 5 or 6 others I can't remember now. All was impressive and gave me a glimpse of the kind of quality hiding in the Boulder/Longmont area. This place sets the bar for quality and I can only hope other folks strive to provide meds that good, but for $12 a gram ;)

call first, it's by appointment only, and there's no 'make me a caregiver' crap.

The Strain Man (http://www.TheStrainMan.blogspot.com)

turbonerd
08-30-2009, 09:00 PM
I just posted something similar...

RE post here :)

Grateful Meds had a great selection. ---> Sage was perfect, and the peanut butter cup was very strong

Herbal Wellness had great NYCD & CaliMist!! There edibles weren't very strong an cost $10

Mr. Nice Guys had a small selection, mango was their pride n' joy - but very friendly.

My question is... where is the REAL headband, OG kush, & Chemdog? & Where are some serious edibles?

turbonerd
08-30-2009, 09:04 PM
p.s.

GREAT BLOG :):thumbsup:

TheStrainMan
08-30-2009, 09:08 PM
Hi there turbonerd :bonghit:

Thanks for posting here bro/sis. I really liked the Sage at Grateful Meds! Same Sage they sometimes have at B.A.M. Very VERY potent with a strange smell... something like a garlic beef stew smell. All in all I really liked it. What did it smell like to you?

The Strain Man (http://www.thestrainman.blogspot.com)

turbonerd
08-30-2009, 09:12 PM
Had a strong pepper smell.

My caregiver is going to have Omaha Willy's, Bluberry X Northern lights, Chocolope, and JAZZ very soon!

TheStrainMan
08-30-2009, 09:24 PM
that sounds exciting! Been looking for a chocolope for a while

The Strain Man (http://www.TheStrainMan.blogspot.com)

pfunk211
09-01-2009, 08:04 AM
hey strain man,

diggin' the blog.

you wrote:

"After 8/30/2009, you no longer need to communicate change of caregiver status with the registry, so you're on your own to tell your caregiver yourself. As an added measure, you should fill out a Change of Caregiver form and in the primary caregiver area of the form, write the word 'NONE': Change Caregiver Form

after 8/30/2009, you MUST get it notarized before mailing to the state registry.

But in reality, folks, you don't have anything to worry about in any case because the state registry is no longer keeping track of who is who's patient/caregiver. The burden of proof will be on them to insure you didn't have a caregiver who is also growing out 6 plants for you. It'll be impossible for the DA to go after all but the largest of large gardens, so you and your 6 plants are safe."


can you direct me somewhere i can read more about this? i try to stay hip to the laws and this is one i haven't heard about.

thanks brother.

P

pfunk211
09-01-2009, 08:34 AM
nevermind.....

http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/medicalmarijuana/AdoptedRules0200900360.pdf

pfunk211
09-01-2009, 10:05 AM
meh,


it still reads like you have to communicate caregiver change with the registry, just that you now have to have the form notarized.

is there a way that we, as caregivers, can check if we still have caregiver status with a patient or will we be notified when/if they give their status to someone else? if i were to grow for ten, but six dropped me without notice, seems i would be in a bit of a legal pickle.

should i keep photocopies of notarized caregiver change forms that list me as caregiver?

TheStrainMan
09-01-2009, 01:06 PM
good question. Before 8/30/09 the registry attempted to keep track of caregiver-patient relationships, and they would attempt to send out notices regarding patient changes. That proved impossible, so the registry dropped it. THEY NO LONGER TRACK this info, so it's unclear why we even have to send in a change of caregiver form (notorized or not). Currently the only legal way for a patient to remove you as a caregiver is for said patient to write you a letter, call you on the phone, or verbally tell you in person that they no longer require your caregiver service. If your patients haven't done that, then you can legitamately consider them 'yours' still.

waterdog
09-01-2009, 01:19 PM
I have never had to purchase from a disp. in Colo. before( im a grower)but I was wondering...If I want to make a purchase do I have to sign them over as MY caregivger???Or how does it work? Thanks for the info! Peace....

Waterdog

TheStrainMan
09-01-2009, 03:51 PM
Hi waterdog. The quick answer is NO, you do not have to make a dispensary your primary caregiver in 95% of the cases. There are a few dispensaries that require it, but those won't last long.

for more info, this will answer your questions:
The Strain Man: What is a Medical Marijuana Caregiver and Why Should I Care? (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/2009/08/what-is-medical-marijuana-caregiver-and.html)

dude13
09-01-2009, 04:02 PM
there is a new dispensery opening today sept 1st in golden.Does anyone know the address

topjazzman
09-03-2009, 02:33 PM
Had a chance to go to the new Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine in Golden on opening day.Very nice and clean.the owner had about 8-10 strains in very small jars.The buds were a little small.He is not the grower.The sad thing about this new disp.is his prices very high.100.00 for qt.385.00 for a z.Wow what ever happened to caregiver.He also advertised the first 100 people wil get a free bud in a jar.That did not happen.In the last 6 months we are seeing so many new sellers to the seen.Alot of new stores.You will see in the next yr.how many will close if they do not drop their prices.If you are not growing then yes I do know your prices will be more but with small buds and high prices I will and can not afford to shop there. Shop owners some of us really do need our meds daily and only have so much to spend.Peace Jazz:mad:

johnthemick
09-03-2009, 05:56 PM
Wow, with so many dispensaries charging $120+ for 1/4s, I don't see $100 being gouging at all.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Please come back for your sample. I have several that I am sure you will like.

Thanks for stopping by the store.

John
Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine
420 Corporate Circle, I
Golden, CO

copobo
09-04-2009, 04:43 AM
top shelf meds, friendly staff, fair prices.

there is a way to do it, and these guys know the deal.

HighPopalorum
09-05-2009, 09:12 PM
Strain Man,

What kind of photography setup do you use? I really enjoy the images on your blog. Some of that medicine looks like tentacled creatures from outer space.

Also, I went to a dispensary grand opening today here in Durango. It's only the second one in town, but two more are opening this month. This is a boom time for Colorado MMJ.

Keep the good reviews coming!
HP

legaloutlaw
09-06-2009, 02:19 AM
There are now 5 dispensarys here in grand junction, ill drop a review once I have been 2 all of them.

legaloutlaw
09-07-2009, 01:34 AM
Ok so in no particular order, natures medicine, also provide massage and various other holistic stuff, but I went here 4 bud. behind a secure door u are the only patient in the room which is nice and intimate, all focus is on u, always, always, hi quality smoke, candy and hash. Kinda pricy, u get wut u pay 4 though. Natures medicine, GREAT peeps here, always @ least 2 or 3 great, great strains and always 3or 4 various other symptom specific meds\hash. Um I 4got the name of the oldest newer 1, down off 24 rd , but was very impressed with tha layout of this 1, 2 or 3 times bigger than any other dispensary intown, pool room, and various other chill spots wit couches and tv, just asking 2 b chilled upon wit a nice vape, wich owner incourages 2 chill, great meds, only thing is kinda outta my way, but good location. Now its god hand or gods gift in clifton, they just had sensible which wuz in my book +++++, anyways 1st timer just the other day, plenty edabiles, I wuz on a budget, so I had 2 pic up some regs\swagg, but asked 2 admire sum of their hi quality and owner wuz nice enough 2 break off a couple budz 4 me and another paitent who wuz also lackin $$$ and pickinup regs as well, VERY nice. Also cheepest glass @ any dispensary I seen yet. Ok last but not least, weeds, plenty good edibles, ummmm, differtnt from other dispensary, but not by anymeans less quality, u can tell still very new, but nice 2 see sum female budtenders for once lol. I can not say nothing but great things about all 5 gj dispensarys, vey profetional, clean, and great quality meds. Ok 1 thing, where all tha REAL, REAL , potent concentrates @, honney oil and crazy ass hash, just 4 growers and disp owners or wut???

greeley
09-07-2009, 02:52 PM
Need caregiver in northern Colorado (Greeley) - Thanks...



High folks! I've been reviewing dispensaries and covering various topics within the Colorado MMJ scene. Check it out and lemme know what you think

The Strain Man (http://www.thestrainman.blogspot.com)

Also, lets share dispensary experiences here in this thread. Here are some of mine that haven't made it to the blog yet:

First the good....

Boulder Alternative Medicine
BoulderMeds.com

Great place! Usually have at least 10 different strains for various budgets. Anywhere from $8 a gram for great tiny mix of nugs from the bottom of bags for rolling, all the way to $17 a gram for some of the best bud CO dispensaries have to offer. These guys are so cool that if you buy a gram or two, they'll actually CUT THE BUDS OFF THE STEMS before weighing so you pay for what you smoke, not what you throw out. I'll keep coming back here.

One Brown Mouse in Nederland
onebrownmouse.com
If you want great indoor, locally-grown high-altitude bud, this is your place. I like the town and the staff who also grow their own for the store and are very knowledgeable. Prices are great, too.. $14 a gram for primos like Sage and Sour Diesel.


The Bad.....

New Options wellness in Boulder
no website

These are the guys that got robbed, and ya feel those vibes in the staff with every heavy breath in the place. Despite their bad luck, honestly, their wares just suck. I opened and inspected every jar (and they had like 20 different strains) and it seems that no one there knows anything about proper drying and curing. Some of the jars smelled of ammonia!!! WTF! Also, many of their strains are mislabeled and not what they claim to be. Also over-priced at $20 a gram for their better selections when there's such better bud not a mile away.


The Ugly...

Pain Management of Colorado in Denver
colorado.medicalmarijuana.net

They'll sign you up for $350 and have a 70 year old doctor from the Dominican Republic who can't speak English that well. A bit shady in both dealings and location. They had 2 strains on hand when I checked it out and one was just crap, the other was an AK-47 which looked decent, but it just wasn't AK-47. They also have some edibles, but they are very weak. These guys are in it for the money and that's easy to see. BEWARE: If you use these guys to set you up, I hear they will make you select them as your primary caregiver, so you'll have to change that ASAP with the state.

imoutclimbing
09-09-2009, 07:19 AM
Had a chance to go to the new Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine in Golden on opening day.Very nice and clean.the owner had about 8-10 strains in very small jars.The buds were a little small.He is not the grower.The sad thing about this new disp.is his prices very high.100.00 for qt.385.00 for a z.Wow what ever happened to caregiver.He also advertised the first 100 people wil get a free bud in a jar.That did not happen.In the last 6 months we are seeing so many new sellers to the seen.Alot of new stores.You will see in the next yr.how many will close if they do not drop their prices.If you are not growing then yes I do know your prices will be more but with small buds and high prices I will and can not afford to shop there. Shop owners some of us really do need our meds daily and only have so much to spend.Peace Jazz:mad:

I think you missed the mark on RMOM Jazz. I've seen about a dozen dispensaries in the last few weeks. For one that's been open for a week, he's not doing too bad.

As to the strains... About ten is what I saw. But more importantly, the ones I looked at (Bubba Kush, Trainwreck , Green Crack) all appeared to have been grown by a grower who knew what they were going. Chrystalization, density & smell (the purple smells great-grape!) were at least above average.

As the the buds... Who cares about the size of the buds? Isn't quality the issue? The Trainwrech had a swift & immediate effect. Nice soaring buzz. The Bubba Kush delivered the classic BK schwack. Heavy & relaxing. Exactly what the doctor ordered.

As the the price... John is right. $100/7g is probably slightly below average right now. Something additional to consider on price... While the illegal 'market' price was based largely on risk that has largely gone away, there is the NEW legal 'market' price that will be made up of things like standard business space lease & operating costs, insurance & legal fees (and some interesting upgrades that you really should ask about). While the 'new market' price shouldn't necessarily reflect the 'old market' price, I wouldn't go holding your breath for any big price shifts in the near future.

By the way... I'm not sure what you're talking about with the jars. I got one. An unexpected surprise!

Nice work John! CYA next week for the Green Crack...

topjazzman
09-09-2009, 02:21 PM
Did not miss anything with my review.Small buds mean you are getting the bottom half of the plant not the top.John is not the grower so venders sell what they do not want.The main thing is that you were happy that is what counts.You need to find a good caregiver.Most charge anywhere from 250-325.

imoutclimbing
09-09-2009, 07:30 PM
Did not miss anything with my review.Small buds mean you are getting the bottom half of the plant not the top.John is not the grower so venders sell what they do not want.The main thing is that you were happy that is what counts.You need to find a good caregiver.Most charge anywhere from 250-325.

First, while I can appreciate your opinion, I think your dispersion on average size buds/bud location in a gross generalization. a) Smaller (than huge) bud size does not necessarily mean that the buds are 'lower' buds. Maybe the grower used heavy pruning, creating more smaller buds on the plant... b) a good grower will harvest top-down, so the 'lower' buds will be just as mature... & c) there is also a line of thinking that periodically shaded buds have higher average THC cycle concentrations, as they have not been exposed to as much constant direct UV light. In general though, RMOM's buds were no 'smaller' than elsewhere on my dispensary tour & they were quite potent.

On to more important stuff... I have my issues with store-front dispensaries too. They are quite expensive, but do make good places to go and try many varieties. That said, I am interested in grower/caregivers who operate in lower-cost models and can provide good oz. pricing. Do you have some contact info?

topjazzman
09-09-2009, 08:43 PM
Sorry can not help you.My caregiver is not taking on anymore patients at this time.
I have been to alot of disp.Buffalo Meds in Nederland have alot nicer products than John, their buds are very nice and they can tell you where they do come from.They are also starting to grow.I was there just looking and enjoying the area on sat.I could not help and I bought a qt.of Mandarin Haze.for 80.00.It was great.Nothing there is over 350.z.There is a nice store on 32 in Highlands area.father and daughter ,they are growers and have organic ladies.In june I bought a z for 325 including tax of durbin poison.it was great ,they also have nicer looking ladies than John has,because they are the growers.I am not at all speaking bad of John,it is great to see so many stores opening,but not all are good.another store is in westmester on 72 st.they grow alot of their ladies to ,always 35 + strains.If one can only afford to buy qt.It is alot harder to get nice looking ladies.Tops of the plants are much nicer in every way.You seem to know alot on them you should start growing.peace,jazz

Ps for 100 qt your buds should all be nice !!!! small pieces suck

NatureLover
09-10-2009, 01:09 AM
Wow, with so many dispensaries charging $120+ for 1/4s, I don't see $100 being gouging at all.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Please come back for your sample. I have several that I am sure you will like.

Thanks for stopping by the store.

John
Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine
420 Corporate Circle, I
Golden, CO

Do you grow there at your store? If so, $100/qr is gouging.

If you don't grow at the store, then you either don't have enough suppliers to meet the demand you're trying to service, in which case seeking additional customers shouldn't be a concern for you, or you're getting ripped off by your suppliers, or you're marking up about $150 an ounce after the fact.

420 Corporte Circle? Maybe the problem is that your landlord is ripping you off. But maybe not, I don't know. In any case, anybody who has been around cannabis for more than a month knows that $100/qr is outrageous.

We can tell that you know you're not giving a good deal because your first and only defense is to throw some unnamed other dispensaries under the bus.

Your argument isn't that you're good, it's that you're not as bad as some of the alternatives. That's a bad argument.

NatureLover
09-10-2009, 03:20 AM
When we talk about prices, let's take a step back and have a look reality before we get too excited.

The legalization/decriminalization of things makes them less expensive, not more so.

The price of gold has been exploding exponentially over the last few years and it's currently at a little less than $1000/oz. They say "money doesn't grow on trees," but cannabis does (figuratively speaking). Should two and a half ounces of cannabis be worth a one ounce bar of gold?

How about the prices of some other agricultural products retailing on the consumer level? Let's see...Tobacco. It's a much more volatile substance, so not only do the tobacco companies have to deal with the pseudo-legality of their product, they also have to dish out big money for lawsuits and money for civil suit lawyers.

A pack of the most expensive brand name pre-rolled cigarettes weighs 1.1 ounces and retails for around $5. That's including all the packaging, papers and filters too. Rolling your own costs even less, and they usually throw in a complimentary pack of rolling papers.

I'm not saying that marijuana should cost $5 an ounce, and I want to see people able to make a profit from the industry and be able to support themselves while doing work that spreads awareness and acceptance of cannabis as a medicine. But it damn sure shouldn't cost as much as most dispensaries are charging, even the ones who are selling at "only" $100 for a quarter. Even on the black market a quarter from someone who knows where to get it only retails for about $75-$90.

If the dispensaries can't get the prices down they're not going to survive in a legal market. I suggest patients choose private caregivers and caregiver co-operatives; who/which retail marijuana for between $200-$300. Those are the growers, and the growers' co-ops. Private caregivers and caregiver cooperatives are less likely than the dispensaries to be raided, and if your dispensary ends up like one of the dispensaries in Colorado that recently got raided by the feds then your name and documentation goes into a federal database. The feds don't have time for individuals who are growing enough for only a couple of other people, they will continue raiding the dispensaries.

The huge DEA operation in Hawaii that went on just a couple days ago targeted all the dispensaries on several islands, it was not focusing on rounding up caregivers, it was engaged in a shock and awe mass-raid of the dispensaries. So maybe it's not economical to own a dispensary yet in the current legal environment. I think it could be done, but if it's not economical to own a dispensary yet in the current legal environment that's no reason to rip people off in order to do so when there are other legal and much more affordable alternatives ot there, of better quality. Let's face it, the dispensaries that aren't growing their own are getting somebody else's leftovers, who is keeping the better stuff for themselves and their patients. That's why the tiny buds, caregivers can only legally have 2 ounces of product per patient, and when they get more than that in a single harvest (six or even three plants can give you waay more than 2 ounces), they sell the excess to dispensaries who in essence recieve and mark up a product that's inferior to the cheaper version.

Dispensaries that grow their own are at least possibly producing an equivalent product to what smaller scale gardeners are producing, but still their retail products are overpriced. Really, mass-producers don't produce the same quality product that small-scale producers do, but they may have a larger strain selection.

The only reason I can ever imagine going to a dispensary that didn't grow its own would be for convenience, like going through the drive-thru at mcdonalds. You're not there for price, it'd be cheaper to shop at the grocery store. You're damn sure not there for the quality. You're there for convenience, because it's a way to get yourself a little something to hold yourself over until it's time to make a real purchase.

LegalizeItNow
09-10-2009, 05:47 AM
I know I'm new here, but I have to disagree with OP on Pain Management of Colorado. Admittedly I am not a patient myself; I don't have a qualifying condition and I try to keep on the right side of the law so that I can be an effective political advocate for legalization. But with the caveat that as a non-patient I haven't actually tried their product, I think PMoC has a lot going for them.

For one thing, they have medical marijuana dispensaries in Boulder, Denver, Vail, Colorado Springs, Fort Collins and Aspen (http://colorado.medicalmarijuana.net/), and they're opening more. Convenient if you have to get your medicine while traveling. The people involved seem to me to be very passionate about medical marijuana advocacy and helping patients. I know that when another local dispensary was found not to be handicapped-accessible, the head of PMoC was willing to reach out to disability advocates and seek their advice on how to build new dispensaries to allow patients with disabilities to gain easy access. I don't think someone just in it for the money would volunteer to spend extra $$$ on construction to help patients out like that.

Granted, the loads of dispensaries with various medical marijuana doctors probably have varying quality--I'm only really familiar with the Denver and Boulder people.

And, waxing philosophical for a moment, I honestly like seeing a larger company dealing with medical marijuana in Colorado and expanding to other states. I think that legalization will finally happen when business demands it. Politicians aren't listening to the over 70% of ordinary Americans who want legalization now; they'll only listen when it affects their bottom lines. Once the business community starts to tell Congress and state legislatures that they want legalization and the politicians realize how much tax revenue could be made that way, we'll finally be able to change the image of marijuana advocates from "a bunch of stoners" to "ordinary business people with families who use, buy or sell marijuana and/or support others' right to do so."

johnthemick
09-10-2009, 04:24 PM
Well, honestly does one really have to name names to find a dispensary charging more than $100/qt? I am not throwing anyone under any bus.

Dispensaries exist so people who don't have a connection to a grower can have a safe, friendly, reliable place to buy their medicine. If people have a safe and reliable connection without going to a dispensary, great. For those who don't, we are here.

As far as quality goes, I have no problem putting my product under a scope for anyone. It is top shelf. I also have a sampling room on site. Bring your glass. Sample anything in the store before you purchase. I encourage it.

So, Naturelover, before you dismiss a store for its high prices, please come in and see what we have, get a taste, and then make a decision.

John
Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine

HighPopalorum
09-10-2009, 06:22 PM
re: $100 quarters

I've paid a good bit more than that on a price-per-gram basis; I think most patients probably have. $100 quarters don't exactly make me jump for joy, but I don't think that's exorbitant if the medicine is top notch. I live in a different part of the state or I would definitely be visiting John and sampling his medicine. The fact that he encourages his patients/customers to scope and sample before they purchase is a good sign, IMO.

Also, I can't wait to visit the Boulder/Denver area and try some of these places.

imoutclimbing
09-10-2009, 09:33 PM
re: $100 quarters

The fact that he encourages his patients/customers to scope and sample before they purchase is a good sign, IMO.


In my on-going dispensary tour... He's the only one that I've run into that allows sampling (nice work John!). But, I'm kinda torn on this issue...

On one hand, it seems only right that an entity that sells a consumable, that cost as much as a precious metal per oz, encourages and is allowed to provide sampling. On the other hand, this has the potential to attract unwanted attention. And some will argue that... Without a designated driver, this type of thing might violate a principle of responsible cannabis use.

I hope this aspect of dispensaries will work out. But at the same time, I hope the people utilizing this service understand how much of an extremely experimental privilege it is right now & treat it as such.

If this were to work out well at RMOM, and a given dispensary was allowed, it would be hard for dispensaries, in the future, not to offer such a service. However, it this goes bad at RMOM, the sampling issues may never be heard from again.

NatureLover
09-10-2009, 11:29 PM
Well, honestly does one really have to name names to find a dispensary charging more than $100/qt? I am not throwing anyone under any bus.

Dispensaries exist so people who don't have a connection to a grower can have a safe, friendly, reliable place to buy their medicine. If people have a safe and reliable connection without going to a dispensary, great. For those who don't, we are here.

As far as quality goes, I have no problem putting my product under a scope for anyone. It is top shelf. I also have a sampling room on site. Bring your glass. Sample anything in the store before you purchase. I encourage it.

So, Naturelover, before you dismiss a store for its high prices, please come in and see what we have, get a taste, and then make a decision.

John
Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine

Fair enough, I'll do so. And as far as the frustration I expressed in previous posts, I'll make it clear that my frustration is with my experience of the dispensary business model so far, it's not with your store in particular. From now on I'll save my ranting for other threads and use this thread just for specific reviews of dispensaries I've personally been to.

palerider7777
09-11-2009, 02:56 AM
Sorry can not help you.My caregiver is not taking on anymore patients at this time.
I have been to alot of disp.Buffalo Meds in Nederland have alot nicer products than John, their buds are very nice and they can tell you where they do come from.They are also starting to grow.I was there just looking and enjoying the area on sat.I could not help and I bought a qt.of Mandarin Haze.for 80.00.It was great.Nothing there is over 350.z.There is a nice store on 32 in Highlands area.father and daughter ,they are growers and have organic ladies.In june I bought a z for 325 including tax of durbin poison.it was great ,they also have nicer looking ladies than John has,because they are the growers.I am not at all speaking bad of John,it is great to see so many stores opening,but not all are good.another store is in westmester on 72 st.they grow alot of their ladies to ,always 35 + strains.If one can only afford to buy qt.It is alot harder to get nice looking ladies.Tops of the plants are much nicer in every way.You seem to know alot on them you should start growing.peace,jazz

Ps for 100 qt your buds should all be nice !!!! small pieces suck

so what r u saying all the growers/shops should only sell the tops? and do what with the smallers ones throw them away? also i find it funny u say u know all the smaller buds are from the lower half of the plant.i can grow the very bottom branches and have them come out bigger than alot of growers tops.also i've seen some growers that produce small buds all over even the tops.also there have been times when smaller buds pack just as much punch all depends on strain and also who's growing it too.

palerider7777
09-11-2009, 03:07 AM
When we talk about prices, let's take a step back and have a look reality before we get too excited.

The legalization/decriminalization of things makes them less expensive, not more so.

The price of gold has been exploding exponentially over the last few years and it's currently at a little less than $1000/oz. They say "money doesn't grow on trees," but cannabis does (figuratively speaking). Should two and a half ounces of cannabis be worth a one ounce bar of gold?

How about the prices of some other agricultural products retailing on the consumer level? Let's see...Tobacco. It's a much more volatile substance, so not only do the tobacco companies have to deal with the pseudo-legality of their product, they also have to dish out big money for lawsuits and money for civil suit lawyers.

A pack of the most expensive brand name pre-rolled cigarettes weighs 1.1 ounces and retails for around $5. That's including all the packaging, papers and filters too. Rolling your own costs even less, and they usually throw in a complimentary pack of rolling papers.

I'm not saying that marijuana should cost $5 an ounce, and I want to see people able to make a profit from the industry and be able to support themselves while doing work that spreads awareness and acceptance of cannabis as a medicine. But it damn sure shouldn't cost as much as most dispensaries are charging, even the ones who are selling at "only" $100 for a quarter. Even on the black market a quarter from someone who knows where to get it only retails for about $75-$90.

If the dispensaries can't get the prices down they're not going to survive in a legal market. I suggest patients choose private caregivers and caregiver co-operatives; who/which retail marijuana for between $200-$300. Those are the growers, and the growers' co-ops. Private caregivers and caregiver cooperatives are less likely than the dispensaries to be raided, and if your dispensary ends up like one of the dispensaries in Colorado that recently got raided by the feds then your name and documentation goes into a federal database. The feds don't have time for individuals who are growing enough for only a couple of other people, they will continue raiding the dispensaries.

The huge DEA operation in Hawaii that went on just a couple days ago targeted all the dispensaries on several islands, it was not focusing on rounding up caregivers, it was engaged in a shock and awe mass-raid of the dispensaries. So maybe it's not economical to own a dispensary yet in the current legal environment. I think it could be done, but if it's not economical to own a dispensary yet in the current legal environment that's no reason to rip people off in order to do so when there are other legal and much more affordable alternatives ot there, of better quality. Let's face it, the dispensaries that aren't growing their own are getting somebody else's leftovers, who is keeping the better stuff for themselves and their patients. That's why the tiny buds, caregivers can only legally have 2 ounces of product per patient, and when they get more than that in a single harvest (six or even three plants can give you waay more than 2 ounces), they sell the excess to dispensaries who in essence recieve and mark up a product that's inferior to the cheaper version.

Dispensaries that grow their own are at least possibly producing an equivalent product to what smaller scale gardeners are producing, but still their retail products are overpriced. Really, mass-producers don't produce the same quality product that small-scale producers do, but they may have a larger strain selection.

The only reason I can ever imagine going to a dispensary that didn't grow its own would be for convenience, like going through the drive-thru at mcdonalds. You're not there for price, it'd be cheaper to shop at the grocery store. You're damn sure not there for the quality. You're there for convenience, because it's a way to get yourself a little something to hold yourself over until it's time to make a real purchase.

your babbling on, bottom line is it will bring what the market will bare simple.also it's his stuff he can sell it for what he wants where i come from 400 an oz is the norm.also if it's so easy and cheap and can be done for free then why even bother with a shop do it your self since it's free and all.

i mean since all the equipment and electric and overhead is free also then i don't know why you would even care what he's doing. im not taking up for him don't even know him but i find it very odd when peole say someone is a rip off for charging what ever they charge as if it cost nothing to do.forget all the cost u still sumwhat have to worry about leo still and robbers too.:wtf::smokin:but im sure im wrong i could see bitching about gas prices as u can't make your own but your legal and u want to whine about this dude when if it's so free and easy do it yourself huh?

ps mcdonalds is cheaper when is the last time u went to the store? say tacobell u go buy 10 tacos@59cents each total around 6$ to buy the same stuff thats in those tacos at the store would cost you 16 $ go see for yourself.

palerider7777
09-11-2009, 03:19 AM
ps the 2 1/2 oz worth an oz of gold stuff i say this after all the money for equipment,overhead,leo,robbers,neighbors being nosey and so on u still have all the time that grower spends growing it and caring for it.so are you saying that that person that is doing all of this should do it all for free just to give it to a person thats looking for a free handout? why i say that cause thats how it sounds when u could do all of it yourself? i'll say to u like i said b4 to another since it's free and this guy is a rip off for charging what he is then put your money where your mouth is and u do all the growing and i want to see u hand it out for totally free k?..... yea did'nt think so

would u expect to go to your job and them tell you that you should work for free and to quit being so greedy for wanting the wage you want per hr? again did'nt think so.....wow

topjazzman
09-11-2009, 01:20 PM
Just a thought to think about:

Cargiver what does that really mean?
Being very sick that meds do help you with pain and mental heath.
Having very little money !!
CAREGIVER somewhere in the 400.oz the meaning gets lost.


Black market wanting to smoke to fill good,still 400 oz.

Peace JAZZ :question:

NatureLover
09-11-2009, 01:33 PM
Palerider, you can do what you like, whatever works for you. For those who are finding it easier to find dispensaries than it is to find a grower or caregiver's co-operative I would suggest they just go to MMJ Community events, like the cannabis health fair in Boulder tomorrow. Having trouble finding access to affordable products of competitive quality, that might be a good place to go. Otherwise there are lots of patient advocacy meetings in boulder, denver, colorado springs, pueblo and probably just about everywhere else. If you need help finding one in your area let me know and I'll help you out. The people who run patient advocacy groups are very good at getting patients their medicine as though it is medicine and not a luxury.

I won't say anything more about John's shop until I visit it. I go to dispensaries and review them as an act of patient advocacy and will continue to do so. I have actually just over the past few days been developing a ten point checklist for things I look for in a dispensary to review, so from now on when I review a dispensary there will be a formula and it will offer a lot of information, and will be easily comparable to other dispensaries I've reviewed. I'll give you an example in an upcoming post, when I get back to reviewing the dispensaries.

NatureLover
09-11-2009, 02:28 PM
Review:

Pikes Peak Alternative Health and Wellness
1605 South Tejon St Ste 101
Colorado Springs CO 80905

Price: $350 for an ounce, $12.50 for a gram. We paid 23 something after tax for a half an 8th (1.75g)

Caregiver Policy: You must sign over your caregiver rights for service. (We told the guy we were new patients and trying to buy a gram or two from each dispensary to find out which one we liked best he made an exception for us for that one time.)

Quality of Product: The half 8th we got had about 6 seeds in it. The seeds were not visible on the outside of the buds and didn't appear until we began breaking up the bud. It wasn't riddled with them but once every two bowls or so you'd get one. There were also no seeds in the bottom of the jar, which leads me to a mild suspicion that the people who work there remove the loose seeds on a regular basis to make the product more presentable. Obviously the potency could have been better, but on the bright side we did get some free seeds with decent genes.

Atmosphere: Professional and comfortable. Seemed like you were in the office of a holistic personal trainer. In fact, I think they might also function as a personal trainer services as well. You do not feel like you're doing anything uncooth or dangerous when you're shopping there. It's a very safe feeling environment.

Staff Knowledge: There are apparently two people who work there and we only met one of them. He was not very knowledgable. He didn't medicate, and when we asked him about the percentage Indica/sativa of some of his strains he had to look each one up individually on the computer in order to tell us.

Staff Friendliness/helpfulness: Was plenty friendly. We arrived when he was closing up and he let us in anyway and brought all his stuff back out. Even though it was obvious he was not the top boss he bent the company's caregiver policy for us so we could as least sample the product before asking us to sign over our caregiver rights. As far as helpfulness, he was as helpful as he could be given the company's caregiver policy and his limited knowledge of the products.

Strain/Product Variety: About 12-15 different strains available for purchase, mix of indicas, indica dominants, sativa dominants and 50/50 hybrids. Also had medicated lozenges. They also had brownies with roughly 3 grams of medication in each.

Grow their own: No

Sell plants/clones: No

Would I go again: If their caregiver policy were different I might go there sometimes for the convenience of a cheap gram, or when I didn't mind sacrificing a bit of potency for some free seeds from a good strain. Unfortunately I don't know how comfortable I feel changing my caregiver every five minutes to whatever business happens to want to sell me something today, so I probably will not return until/unless their caregiver policy becomes less restrictive. A dispensary/grower should have their own certification; they should not be relying on the patient's certification to cover their own butts, and bullying patients into signing away their caregiver rights every time they want to shop at a new store. Some dispensaries just make a copy of your card or doctor's recommendation and your ID and then allow you to shop there, and that's all that's legally needed from the patient.

NatureLover
09-11-2009, 03:07 PM
Review:

Colorado Cannabis Center
5953 Omaha Blvd
Colorado Springs 80915

Price: $20/g

Caregiver Policy: Will not serve caregivers who do not have paperwork. The State of Colorado no longer issues paperwork for caregivers. Lots of pressure to sign over your caregiver rights. It is unclear whether they would have sold to us if we had been interested in buying anything and refused to fill out a change of caregiver form.

Quality of Product: Did not sample it, but it was not visually appealing enough for us to waste our money.

Atmosphere: Sketchy. Feels like you're making a drug deal, and like you have to be careful not to be taken advantage of. There is a lot of pressure to do things exactly their way and the whole time you're there you know in the forefront of your consciousness that they're in it for the money, and that they're paranoid about getting busted. The room that they bring you back into to do business in is smaller than the lounge, which is very small itself.

Staff Knowledge: Seemed to know a lot about the legal side of things, but not so much about the medicine. They weren't clueless about the medicine, but they weren't especially generous with product information. It's difficult to tell whether they don't know a lot about the products or whether they just don't want to share that information with the patient because of the poor quality and high prices.

Staff Friendliness/Helpfulness: Very low score. The staff is there to sell you your drugs and send you on your way before the cops show up and they have to take the fall for the owner. That's what it feels like anyway. That's the vibe. To their credit when we asked them where we could find some other dispensaries to look around for they told us where to find the green pages at a 7-11 down the road.

Strain/Product Variety: About ten strains and glass for sale. Didn't notice any edibles. It wasn't an atmosphere conducive to getting a lot of specific information or asking a lot of your own questions.

Sell Plants/Clones: No

Grow Their Own: Don't know. Honestly, we didn't care for the reasons listed throughout the rest of these categories.

Will I go Again? No.

palerider7777
09-11-2009, 03:33 PM
Palerider, you can do what you like, whatever works for you. For those who are finding it easier to find dispensaries than it is to find a grower or caregiver's co-operative I would suggest they just go to MMJ Community events, like the cannabis health fair in Boulder tomorrow. Having trouble finding access to affordable products of competitive quality, that might be a good place to go. Otherwise there are lots of patient advocacy meetings in boulder, denver, colorado springs, pueblo and probably just about everywhere else. If you need help finding one in your area let me know and I'll help you out. The people who run patient advocacy groups are very good at getting patients their medicine as though it is medicine and not a luxury.

I won't say anything more about John's shop until I visit it. I go to dispensaries and review them as an act of patient advocacy and will continue to do so. I have actually just over the past few days been developing a ten point checklist for things I look for in a dispensary to review, so from now on when I review a dispensary there will be a formula and it will offer a lot of information, and will be easily comparable to other dispensaries I've reviewed. I'll give you an example in an upcoming post, when I get back to reviewing the dispensaries.

that sounds good i did'nt know there was such.i myself am a caregiver and i don't charge but 275 to 300.and ofcorse if someone was very sick i would go lower.but you have to understand the most dispensaries bug people like me to give to them instead of a patient.so if i was to give to them for the 275/300 range u know they will jack it up.im with you on the caregiver/patient thing as the patient will get much better care and price for there meds or atleast should.and they are treated with more respect or should. i think thats the problem tho is most don't know where to go to meet one another. and no i have never been to a dispensary but i have heard mixed things and the subpar meds they sometimes sell at crazy prices.thats why i said either grow your own or find a caregiver that u would be much more happy with and sometimes safer.i don't know what there meds look like but here's sum of my work.

NatureLover
09-11-2009, 03:36 PM
Review:

Rockbrook, Inc.
Colorado Ave, just past Yale coming from I-25.
Denver, Colorado

Price: $50/8th all the way up. We paid $25 for a half an 8th

Caregiver Policy: After the introductions on our first visit we were asked us "Are you guys looking for a caregiver or are you doing your own thing?" When we said "We're doing our own thing" the subject was immediately and permanently dropped. They made a copy of our card and ID, returned them both to us and that was that. A+ caregiver policy.

Quality of Product: Excellent. It was even visually stimulating enough that we decided several strains were worth $25 for a half 8th sample. We were very pleased with two of the three we purchased.

Atmosphere: Very professional, upbeat. Feels like you're there for healing, feels like a legitimate environment and like you're being treated well.

Staff Knowledge: We've met both Adam and Calvin during different visits. Both are very knowledgable about both the product and how it can be used as medicine. Adam seems to have an especially lot of information about the strains and their backgrounds and plant growth and care, and Calvin seems to be very knowledgable in the potential application of the medicine.

Staff Friendliness/Helpfulness: Very friendly, willing to answer questions. Good personalities, they're good at creating a relaxing atmosphere to do business in and they're free flowing with their knowledge and resources (well, except pricewise with the medicine).

Strain/product variety: They had about 5 different strains each of the two times we've been there. They had edibles and bubble hash and they either had or were working on some salves and tinctures. Their bubble hash is actually separated out and separately labeled strain specific as well as triche-size specific. Unfortunately, as far as bud goes they had been running out of the stuff they grew themselves and are talking about buying inventory from outsiders to hold them over for the next three weeks until their next harvest is done drying and curing, but they assured me that the problem was fixed and they have 11 strains in cultivation right now and that supply won't be a problem again.

Sell Plants/clones: Yes, but you have to call ahead the day before so they can bring it in for you. They don't have the capacity to keep them alive indefinitely at the store.

Grow Their Own: Yes

Will I go Again: Yes, I'm sure that I will spend $25 on a half 8th from time to time when I'm in Denver and looking for quick convenient access to a small amount of medicine. It is good quality medicine, but with no price breaks all the way up they are not capable of meeting my needs as a primary source.

palerider7777
09-11-2009, 03:43 PM
. A dispensary/grower should have their own certification; they should not be relying on the patient's certification to cover their own butts, and bullying patients into signing away their caregiver rights every time they want to shop at a new store. Some dispensaries just make a copy of your card or doctor's recommendation and your ID and then allow you to shop there, and that's all that's legally needed from the patient.[/QUOTE]

but don't they need all those patients so they can legally have so much on hand at any givin time? without the patients they would have very lil to offer unless im missing something here?i thought we were all the same as far as whats legal to carry have on hand?

NatureLover
09-11-2009, 03:53 PM
that sounds good i did'nt know there was such.i myself am a caregiver and i don't charge but 275 to 300.and ofcorse if someone was very sick i would go lower.but you have to understand the most dispensaries bug people like me to give to them instead of a patient.so if i was to give to them for the 275/300 range u know they will jack it up.im with you on the caregiver/patient thing as the patient will get much better care and price for there meds or atleast should.and they are treated with more respect or should. i think thats the problem tho is most don't know where to go to meet one another. and no i have never been to a dispensary but i have heard mixed things and the subpar meds they sometimes sell at crazy prices.thats why i said either grow your own or find a caregiver that u would be much more happy with and sometimes safer.i don't know what there meds look like but here's sum of my work.

I totally agree with everything you're saying here and those are some nice lookin' buds. Keep up the good work and the decent prices!

NatureLover
09-11-2009, 04:13 PM
Review:

Cannabis Therapeutics
907 E. Fillmore St
Colorado Springs, CO

Prices: $3-$400/oz

Caregiver Policy: Patient must sign over his/her caregiver rights for service.

Quality of Product: Did not try the products. See caregiver policy above. Some of the products looked good and some looked okay.

Atmosphere: Unpleasant. The first thing that happens when the door opens is you're greeted by this big macho intimidating bouncer with an intimidating presence. He lets you into the lobby where he checks your ids and stuff, and leads you on any tour/information gathering you might want to do before you sign over your caregiver rights. He brought us into the back room where they have all their displays and do their business and they happened to be trimming in that display room at the time of our visit. It was difficult to really get a good look at the stuff they had and much information about it in that kind of environment.

Staff Knowledge: Seemed like the bouncer had a lot of info memorized that he spouted off and stuff, mostly about the way their dispensary worked rather than about the medicine. He was the only one we got to talk to.

Staff Friendliness/Helpfulness: We were looking at the jars in the display cases maybe about a minute and a half after entering the display room (where they were trimming product right there in the middle of the floor onto a tarp that we had to walk around) when the phone rang and the bouncer immediately picked it up and waved his hands in front of our faces and motioned us out like "it's time to go now." Nobody but the bouncer even acknowledged our presence at all. I don't know if they would have been friendlier if they hadn't been trimming in the middle of the floor in the display area of their store, but our experience was you don't get to talk to or meet anybody but the bouncer until you've signed over your caregiver rights.

Strain/product variety: There looked to be about a dozen strains there. They had a refrigerator of edibles and capsules, hard candy, tinctures, bubble hash, glasswork. We didn't really get a chance to see it all on our brief tour.

Sell plants/clones: Yes

Grow their own: Yes

Will I go again: No

NatureLover
09-12-2009, 02:50 AM
. A dispensary/grower should have their own certification; they should not be relying on the patient's certification to cover their own butts, and bullying patients into signing away their caregiver rights every time they want to shop at a new store. Some dispensaries just make a copy of your card or doctor's recommendation and your ID and then allow you to shop there, and that's all that's legally needed from the patient.
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but don't they need all those patients so they can legally have so much on hand at any givin time? without the patients they would have very lil to offer unless im missing something here?i thought we were all the same as far as whats legal to carry have on hand?

As long as they are at least one person's caregiver and they keep the plant count within legal limits (which a recent course case in Boulder set a precedent for the legal limits on plants and weights to be at the patient's and doctor's discretion), they can sell their excess when they crop out to other patients and caregivers.

Think about it this way - when these places ask you to sign up with them, they have product to sell you right away right? They're not asking you to sign your caregiver rights over so they can start growing your plants. They already have enough medicine to serve you now, and it's legal for them to sell it to you. Patients and caregivers can buy/sell surplus amongst each other legally. There's no reason they need it and if there was then every dispensary would do it. Making you sign over your caregiver rights in order to get medicine is just plain bullying, it's only a legitimate if they actually won't be able to provide you with medicine for a few months while it's grown especially for you. If they're bullying you by withholding medicine and promising you immediate medicine as soon as you sign up then their caregiver policy is a scam. At least in my understanding. There are plenty of dispensaries that won't force you to fill out a change of caregiver form in order to obtain access to their medicine. Call around. I reviewed one. There are several that I talked to on the phone today who don't do it but haven't visited yet.

I think it's also a case in some dispensaries that if you don't seem concerned about who your caregiver is they'll tell you you have to fill out a change of caregiver form, but if you do ask about that or if you call ahead and ask that question some dispensaries will say "Oh no, we don't do that," and then before they let you off the phone they make sure to get your name. I don't know for sure but I would imagine that they're writing down your name so they know that you called ahead and asked specifically about their caregiver policy before coming in, so that they remember not to jerk you around. I don't know that for sure, like I said, I'm just guessing.

TheStrainMan
09-12-2009, 03:32 AM
Had a few visits to green mountain care already. Check out the review:
http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/200...iew-green.html

palerider7777
09-12-2009, 04:56 AM
As long as they are at least one person's caregiver and they keep the plant count within legal limits (which a recent course case in Boulder set a precedent for the legal limits on plants and weights to be at the patient's and doctor's discretion), they can sell their excess when they crop out to other patients and caregivers.

Think about it this way - when these places ask you to sign up with them, they have product to sell you right away right? They're not asking you to sign your caregiver rights over so they can start growing your plants. They already have enough medicine to serve you now, and it's legal for them to sell it to you. Patients and caregivers can buy/sell surplus amongst each other legally. There's no reason they need it and if there was then every dispensary would do it. Making you sign over your caregiver rights in order to get medicine is just plain bullying, it's only a legitimate if they actually won't be able to provide you with medicine for a few months while it's grown especially for you. If they're bullying you by withholding medicine and promising you immediate medicine as soon as you sign up then their caregiver policy is a scam. At least in my understanding. There are plenty of dispensaries that won't force you to fill out a change of caregiver form in order to obtain access to their medicine. Call around. I reviewed one. There are several that I talked to on the phone today who don't do it but haven't visited yet.

I think it's also a case in some dispensaries that if you don't seem concerned about who your caregiver is they'll tell you you have to fill out a change of caregiver form, but if you do ask about that or if you call ahead and ask that question some dispensaries will say "Oh no, we don't do that," and then before they let you off the phone they make sure to get your name. I don't know for sure but I would imagine that they're writing down your name so they know that you called ahead and asked specifically about their caregiver policy before coming in, so that they remember not to jerk you around. I don't know that for sure, like I said, I'm just guessing.

thats 1 of the ? that i could never get an answer to.how can they have so much on hand at any giving time when the limit is only 2 oz dry per person?i just fig'd they had that many patients?and if they can get away with having that much without the patient count then why can't we?

NatureLover
09-12-2009, 05:51 AM
They can do it because not all their patients are there at the same time, and they can sell the patient 2 oz and that patient takes that home and doesn't come back for another month or so, but the dispensary can re-up on that patient's two ounces right away and if somebody else comes by and wants to buy it before the patient comes back, that's fine and legal, it's just easier for the dispensary if you make them your caregiver, but if the patient already has a caregiver they're happy with it's harder on the patient.

And it seems like some dispensaries both grow their own and buy it from other dispensaries. If they do that they don't have to worry about scheduling their cropping just right to barely meet the demand (and let's face it, demand is more than what 3 flowering and 3 vegging plants can keep anyone in continuous supply of), they can crop out with this patient's two ounces, sell it to the patient and then turn around and immediately buy another two ounces, because now the dispensary's inventory is only so much when their patient count allows the inventory to be larger.

Probably the biggest reason that there's actually an ample supply of medicine is that patients can fill out a change of caregiver slip as many times as they want to, they can do it every day theoretically if they want to. Filling out change of caregiver slip on its own doesn't take away your previous caregiver's right to count you as a patient. Legally the police must prove that your old caregiver was notified in person, in writing or over the phone that the patient would no longer require the caregiver's services in order to bring charges against your old caregiver. So there are lots of people who do just go around filling out a change of caregiver slip at each place they go, which effectively allows each caregiver to cultivate enough product to meet that patient's needs, otherwise if patients and caregivers were kept strictly to the plant limit in this state there would not be sufficient medicine for anyone. The plant count in this state would need to be increased considerably if it's ever going to be taken seriously.

palerider7777
09-12-2009, 04:45 PM
They can do it because not all their patients are there at the same time, and they can sell the patient 2 oz and that patient takes that home and doesn't come back for another month or so, but the dispensary can re-up on that patient's two ounces right away and if somebody else comes by and wants to buy it before the patient comes back, that's fine and legal, it's just easier for the dispensary if you make them your caregiver, but if the patient already has a caregiver they're happy with it's harder on the patient.

And it seems like some dispensaries both grow their own and buy it from other dispensaries. If they do that they don't have to worry about scheduling their cropping just right to barely meet the demand (and let's face it, demand is more than what 3 flowering and 3 vegging plants can keep anyone in continuous supply of), they can crop out with this patient's two ounces, sell it to the patient and then turn around and immediately buy another two ounces, because now the dispensary's inventory is only so much when their patient count allows the inventory to be larger.

Probably the biggest reason that there's actually an ample supply of medicine is that patients can fill out a change of caregiver slip as many times as they want to, they can do it every day theoretically if they want to. Filling out change of caregiver slip on its own doesn't take away your previous caregiver's right to count you as a patient. Legally the police must prove that your old caregiver was notified in person, in writing or over the phone that the patient would no longer require the caregiver's services in order to bring charges against your old caregiver. So there are lots of people who do just go around filling out a change of caregiver slip at each place they go, which effectively allows each caregiver to cultivate enough product to meet that patient's needs, otherwise if patients and caregivers were kept strictly to the plant limit in this state there would not be sufficient medicine for anyone. The plant count in this state would need to be increased considerably if it's ever going to be taken seriously.

see i worry about them coming to kick my door in over 6 plants even tho it's "legal" they can always find sum other bs to fuck u with.and here are these shops that do way way more than i do and they seem to be let alone.

also the 6 plant limit is bs i think so because your only allowed 3 in bloom at any givin time.what that does is make me waste electric.how? cause if i have only 3 under a 1k light thats a waste and if ya scrog or sog then you really are wasting the light as u could add more than only 3 to a 1k.like with me my norm is 2lbs off 4 plants with 6 week veg which is an 8 oz plant avg now in order to make that same weight i would have to train and veg longer with only 3 plants.

also another problem i see with the 6 is say your starting out with seed u know about 50% will be male or close so there again u will have to spend double electric. with all this we need to go green this and that then have to spend twice the amout in electric in everything we do.and that show that the state ain't to bright.

ALSO lol like with me i never smoke only eat/cook with it so im using more than a smoker would use yet my count is the same?

NatureLover
09-12-2009, 10:53 PM
Review:

Highland Health
2727 Bryant St #420
Denver CO

Price: Grams ranging from $13 to over $20. We purchased an $18 gram of Snowcap.

Caregiver Policy: Caregivers and patients may purchase medicine. Discounts if a you do make them your primary caregiver.

Quality of Product: Our gram of Snowcap is a very effecive sativa dominant strain of medicine. The effects are potent yet easily managable in a social setting. $18 was their second cheapest category out of four.

Atmosphere: The outside of the building seemed to have a lot of shady characters hanging out in front, but there are many businesses in the building other than Highland Health. The Highland Health office itself was cozy and safe feeling, it was arranged a lot like a doctor's office with a waiting room and a reception window and that kind of thing. The back room is quite large and spacious, plenty of breathing room while you're making your selections.

Staff Knowledge: Poor. He didn't explain that his sativas were not pure sativas, and he was also telling us that 50/50 hybrids were sativas.

Staff Friendliness/Helpfulness: A little akward vibe from the staff, not unfriendly - they were nice people, it was just a little akward. They really weren't volunteering much information, and didn't greet our presence with any kind of conversation; if you want to break the silence you're going to have to take the initiative.

Strain/product variety: A lot of the most expensive stuff, only one variety, Lemon Lime, at their lowest price level. They had about 10-15 strains, hash edibles, glasswork.

Do they sell plants/clones: No

Do they grow their own: Not sure if they grow any of it, but they don't grow all of it.

Will I go again: Yes, I'll keep them in mind when I'm in need of a gram or two in Denver.

HighPopalorum
09-12-2009, 11:12 PM
I'm enjoying some Blue Cheese from the Durango Healing Center right now. Tasty.

NatureLover
09-12-2009, 11:23 PM
I know the strainman has already done a review of this dispensary but I went there today and they have updated their prices so I thought I'd post another review of them to supplement the reviews already available.

Review:

Boulder Alternative Medicine
1325 Broadway St. Suite 213
Boulder CO

Prices: They have raised these since thestrainman last reviewed them. Their grams now start at $12 rather than $8, for the bottom of the bags grab bag mix type gram. They had two strains, AK-47 and Blueberry for $15/g, and all the rest were $20/g. They do not offer any price breaks, it's strictly by the gram.

Caregiver Policy: Caregivers and patients are both allowed into the back room. The patient is required to first sign a waiver which in effect is just saying that you want Boulder Alternative Medicine to be your TEMPORARY caregiver, for a period of one hour. It is NOT a change of caregiver form and does not effect the patient's or pre-existing caregiver's status with the state. It is not clear whether or not a caregiver unaccompanied by the patient would be able to purchase medicine.

Quality of product: We purchased a gram of the AK-47 for $15. It is decent quality, but the AK-47 we saw later at Highland Health in Denver looked much superior. But it's a fine smoke, organic medicine and effective. It's got a fun little set of effects and a pleasant taste when smoked.

Atmosphere: Friendly and welcoming. Good service, dog friendly. There is a dog in the store sometimes. Good ambiance, feels safe.

Staff Knowledge: Knowledgeable and willing to share information.

Staff Friendliness/Helpfulness: Friendly and helpful. We needed an extra copy of one of our forms for reasons unrelated to our business at that dispensary and they were kind enough to make copies for us.

Strain/product variety: About ten strains and edibles.

Sell plants/clones: No

Grow their own: Not sure

Will I go again: Probably rarely if the prices do not go up any further. It's a nice place but their price structure is not very user-friendly. Price breaks with quantity are the golden ticket. On the black market it goes without saying that you get price breaks at very specific levels all the way up the chain. That's what I'm used to and that's what I expect.

topjazzman
09-13-2009, 01:26 AM
NatureLover,
thanks enjoy reading !!! jazz

gangagirl
09-13-2009, 02:02 AM
High folks! I've been reviewing dispensaries and covering various topics within the Colorado MMJ scene. Check it out and lemme know what you think

The Strain Man (http://www.thestrainman.blogspot.com)

Also, lets share dispensary experiences here in this thread. Here are some of mine that haven't made it to the blog yet:

First the good....

Boulder Alternative Medicine
BoulderMeds.com

Great place! Usually have at least 10 different strains for various budgets. Anywhere from $8 a gram for great tiny mix of nugs from the bottom of bags for rolling, all the way to $17 a gram for some of the best bud CO dispensaries have to offer. These guys are so cool that if you buy a gram or two, they'll actually CUT THE BUDS OFF THE STEMS before weighing so you pay for what you smoke, not what you throw out. I'll keep coming back here.

One Brown Mouse in Nederland
onebrownmouse.com
If you want great indoor, locally-grown high-altitude bud, this is your place. I like the town and the staff who also grow their own for the store and are very knowledgeable. Prices are great, too.. $14 a gram for primos like Sage and Sour Diesel.


The Bad.....

New Options wellness in Boulder
no website

These are the guys that got robbed, and ya feel those vibes in the staff with every heavy breath in the place. Despite their bad luck, honestly, their wares just suck. I opened and inspected every jar (and they had like 20 different strains) and it seems that no one there knows anything about proper drying and curing. Some of the jars smelled of ammonia!!! WTF! Also, many of their strains are mislabeled and not what they claim to be. Also over-priced at $20 a gram for their better selections when there's such better bud not a mile away.


The Ugly...

Pain Management of Colorado in Denver
colorado.medicalmarijuana.net

They'll sign you up for $350 and have a 70 year old doctor from the Dominican Republic who can't speak English that well. A bit shady in both dealings and location. They had 2 strains on hand when I checked it out and one was just crap, the other was an AK-47 which looked decent, but it just wasn't AK-47. They also have some edibles, but they are very weak. These guys are in it for the money and that's easy to see. BEWARE: If you use these guys to set you up, I hear they will make you select them as your primary caregiver, so you'll have to change that ASAP with the state.

Hello
I went to The Patients Choice in Denver and they sold me some tar that cost 25 a gram. Couldn't smoke it and can't return it.
(Steamboat Springs - any good medicine close by???)
Also, signed up as Primary Caregiver but will change that.

Dietblonde
09-13-2009, 04:43 AM
I have been to a handful of dispensaries and thought I would share with you my experiences with the ones I've been to. Hope they are helpful!


Highland Health
Price: $300+/oz, tax included. Sometimes they'll have a special, usually $50 off an oz. Their top shelf is always $120/q, which I feel is a little too expensive.

Atmosphere/staff: The staff is friendly and welcoming, but a little awkward and not always knowledgeable about their products. I've been hit up for pot from people outside of the building, but that isn't their fault.

Quality/variety: They seem to carry B strains more than anything. Usually 8-10 strains at a time. Purple Crack, Purple Urkle, Headband, and ISS were the better strains I've tried of theirs. Their edibles are hit or miss. I have paid $8 for certain bars that didn't medicate me. I won't buy anymore from them.

Grade: B+.



Peace in Medicine
Price: Mostly $100/q (tax not included) with their A strains running $120/q.

Atmosphere/staff: This place is always bustling and some of the staff are very nice, while others are not. I find the interior very welcoming. They sometimes have an in-house doctor available for exams for $90/$90, but if you go through them, your certificate will say Josh Stanley as your primary caregiver.

Quality/variety: They usually have around 15-20 strains, no edibles. They mostly have B strains, but their Purple Kush was awesome. The Kali Mist was another favorite.

Grade: B (no edibles, grouchy staff always keeps me from going back)



Herbal Connections
Price: I've only ever bought edibles from HC, but if I can remember correctly, their oz's start at $350.

Atmosphere/staff: The staff was pretty friendly. There is always a long wait to see the budtender. I've had to spend over an hour waiting to get my medicine, and I've been told that the long wait is from the time they open until they close. However, they did pass the pipe around and let anyone hit the vaporizer. It seemed like they do a great job of retaining their clientele, and everyone was real chatty.

Quality/variety: I was not impressed by their selection (5-10 strains). Their top shelf was Bubblegum and White Rhino when I was there. However, they have a huge selection of reliable and tasty edibles, including gluten-free snacks. The budtender gave me a dose of a tincture to try out and it was great.

Grade: B. They need to find a way to speed up the process or I won't return. Maybe have another counter.



Releaf Center
Price: I wanted to sample a few of their A strains, so I got a gram each of G-13, Maui, and Jack Flash. I regrettably paid $80 for the 3 grams. I think their 1/8's went for $50-$70.

Atmosphere/staff: The people were friendly and helped me make selections. The inside is really nice.

Quality/variety: When I was there, they had 13 strains, mostly what they said were B's. The G-13 was incredible and I smoked it all up before I even tried the others. They also gave me a small cookie that got me waaaaay too high. I wish they would've told me it was soooo strong.

Grade: C+. Just too expensive...



Patients Choice
Price: I paid $60 (tax not included) for an 1/8 of Durban Poison the first time in. They often carry schwag starting at $210/oz, if I'm correct. Expect to shell out $75 an 1/8 for their Top Shelf.

Atmosphere/staff: Very professional and informed. They spend a lot of time with their guests and the budtender is very helpful.

Quality/variety: They usually have 15 strains at any given time. Lamb's Breath, OG Kush, White Widow are some of the strains I've sampled. They carry a small amount of edibles made from hash.

Grade: B-. Too expensive for me!

__________________________________


Metro Cannabis/Cannabis 4 Health/Cannamart
*I put these 3 dispensaries together because I believe they are owned by the same group/company because each place has the same strains and edibles, and all three have had the same Eastern European accent.

Price: Poorly manicured buds start at $280, but I think one could expect to pay around $350 to $400 for most of their strains.

Atmosphere/staff: They are fast, non-intrusive, friendly and always give me free edibles or knock the price down a tad if I buy a good amount.

Quality/variety: They carry up to 40 strains at any given time. I've sampled some great strains including Afgooey, Blue Dragon, Romulan, and AK-47. They have awesome edibles, including the OG Brownies that really fuck you up. I can only take a bite at a time or I get too stoned ($15 ech).

Grade: A-

TheStrainMan
09-13-2009, 02:36 PM
Thanks for the great reviews DietBlonde!

The Strain Man (http://www.thestrainman.blogspot.com)

GOOSEMAN
09-15-2009, 02:08 PM
I had a chance to stop by Rocky Mnt. Organic Medicine John is a good guy with a nice opp. i tried some JACK HERER all i can say unbelievable, super strong. Thanks John:rastasmoke:

neversummer
09-17-2009, 07:00 AM
Went to Boulder aternative medecine today. They had good bubble hash, and some maui that i got. The Jack locked really good too, but was 20$. The atmosphere was dope. They were playing my favorite snowboard movie on a flat screen in the lobby. I also stopped by the Brown MOuse. They had a huge selection, and some crazy strains. I got Cherry Lime Haze, Meltdown, and Wheel Chair Crippler. Gotta love colorado. Felt good to be able to by my medecine legally. I still feel like im dreaming.

TheStrainMan
09-17-2009, 12:21 PM
Hey neversummer, you were fortunate to get that Cherry Lime Haze!! it's one of my favorite meds around. There is another dispensaries in Nederland, called Grateful Meds, but they are out of their league quality-wise compared to One Brown Mouse and most other dispensairs I've visited in CO.

The Strain Man (http://www.thestrainman.blogspot.com)

neversummer
09-17-2009, 07:49 PM
Hey neversummer, you were fortunate to get that Cherry Lime Haze!! it's one of my favorite meds around. There is another dispensaries in Nederland, called Grateful Meds, but they are out of their league quality-wise compared to One Brown Mouse and most other dispensairs I've visited in CO.

The Strain Man (http://www.thestrainman.blogspot.com)

Yep, I tried the Cherry Lime Haze, based on your reviews on your site. The buds i got were small, and whispy, but it taste alright, and packs a powerful stoney high. The meltdown and the crippler looked a lot better though. I actually traded some of my own meds, for the stuff i got at Brown Mouse. Really cool guy working there. I wish they were closer to where i lived though.

Those are the only two dispeseries I have been too so far. Can anyone reccomend me some. I have a very high standard, and dont ever want to pay more than 17$ a gram. I am looking for organic medecine, with a very strong smell and taste. I still havent seen anything as good, or better than the Crunch Berry, and Siver Haze that i got from my caregiver for $11 a gram.

quagland
09-19-2009, 02:57 AM
I tried out Herbal Connections today as a first timer. They were fantastic to me, I felt comfortable and all were totally friendly. Tried an 1/8 of Nectarine, and it has been great. I must have gotten there at a good time, cause I was in and out in 15 minutes, even with filling out the paperwork.
Everyone, thanks for posting your reviews...all the choices make it overwhelming. This kid has found his candy store.

HighPopalorum
09-19-2009, 03:38 AM
Durango Healing Center has been good to me lately. Purple Urkle, Blue Cheese, Blue Dream, and Misty have all been tasty. I picked up some Mandarin Haze and Juicy Urkle tonight but haven't tried them yet. They usually have 7-10 strains, in the 15-20/g range. While I'm not crazy about the prices, the meds look and smoke great. Staff is very friendly.

TheStrainMan
09-19-2009, 03:16 PM
Nice. The Cherry Lime Haze just energizes me where I wanna climb a mountain and sing 'RICOOOOOLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA'. $17 a gram for the fire is hard to find these days in a dispensary. I say definitely don't lose your caregiver's number at this point if you're getting $11 grams of the bomb meds. If you want great dispensary meds up your $17 budget by $3 a gram and go see Matt at Botanic Labs if you want guarenteed and consistent great meds. Expensive yes, but so far, the only bloke I know that ALWAYS has the bomb. The other places have great meds, but not any where nearly as consitent.


Yep, I tried the Cherry Lime Haze, based on your reviews on your site. The buds i got were small, and whispy, but it taste alright, and packs a powerful stoney high. The meltdown and the crippler looked a lot better though. I actually traded some of my own meds, for the stuff i got at Brown Mouse. Really cool guy working there. I wish they were closer to where i lived though.

Those are the only two dispeseries I have been too so far. Can anyone reccomend me some. I have a very high standard, and dont ever want to pay more than 17$ a gram. I am looking for organic medecine, with a very strong smell and taste. I still havent seen anything as good, or better than the Crunch Berry, and Siver Haze that i got from my caregiver for $11 a gram.

gangagirl
09-19-2009, 10:39 PM
Why does medicine cost MORE in the Steamboat dipensary than on the blackmarket? It isn't even that good, just more over manicured, commercial shit. When I asked the owner if I could get 4 different strains for the $350 ounce price, he said no, that would be $400. Come on. Caregiver my ass, just another arrogant, young guy spouting law he doesn't know and ripping patients off in the process.
Just my opinion...let's here what you think.

TheStrainMan
09-21-2009, 04:17 AM
Why does medicine cost MORE in the Steamboat dipensary than on the blackmarket? It isn't even that good, just more over manicured, commercial shit. When I asked the owner if I could get 4 different strains for the $350 ounce price, he said no, that would be $400. Come on. Caregiver my ass, just another arrogant, young guy spouting law he doesn't know and ripping patients off in the process.
Just my opinion...let's here what you think.

$350 per ounce is high and he's a schmuck for not giving you a quartererd ounce for $bulk. Dispensaries are not CARE-givers. Next time you're about to go inside one, take a deep breath and say to yourself 'This is not a CARE-giver'. The experience will be better. People who want to give mmj care don't open shops, they're perfectly happy, healthy, and wealthy in all the right ways with their 5-20 patients. Dispensaries are pot stores with prices set by supply vs. demand. I hope you told the owner that was lame and mention that several other shops are much cooler.

NatureLover
09-21-2009, 01:17 PM
$350 per ounce is high and he's a schmuck for not giving you a quartererd ounce for $bulk. Dispensaries are not CARE-givers. Next time you're about to go inside one, take a deep breath and say to yourself 'This is not a CARE-giver'. The experience will be better. People who want to give mmj care don't open shops, they're perfectly happy, healthy, and wealthy in all the right ways with their 5-20 patients. Dispensaries are pot stores with prices set by supply vs. demand. I hope you told the owner that was lame and mention that several other shops are much cooler.

C3 Initiatives has a setup I really like. They are a caregiver's co-op which also operates a dispensary. They will sell oz's for a range of prices maxing out at $350 for anyone who walks in to their store, caregiver status not required. If caregiver status is granted to the company however, maximum price drops to $280. Good selection of strains and great quality. After the guy showed us all the good buds he pulled out some stuff with seeds in it that really didn't look that bad and I didn't see any seeds but he said they were in there and that he would just like to get rid of it for $150/oz. In my mind, that's about what it's worth. We went for an ounce of a strain I've never heard of before called Maui Wisp instead, which is great. The guy was nice enough to cut us a break on the price and when all was said and done it cost us $260, and we did not even sacrifice our caregiver status. By far the best and fairest dispensary I've been to so far.

C3 Initiatives
9460 Federal Blvd
Federal Heights CO 80260
(303) 667-6032

NatureLover
09-21-2009, 01:41 PM
Review:

C3 Initiatives
9460 Federal Blvd
Federal Heights CO 80260
(303) 667-6032

Prices: Loosely negotiable, $300-$350/oz, $240-$280/oz if caregiver status is granted.

Caregiver Policy: Patient gets a discount if caregiver rights are granted.

Quality of Product: The "Maui Wisp" we tried was a great sativa with very potent effects.

Atmosphere: Nice and professional. Seems like they're genuinely trying to find a compromise between helping the patient out and making their money.

Staff Knowledge: Seemed very knowledgeable. I would imagine the person we talked to was probably a grower. It is, after all, a grower's co-op. He seemed to know a lot about the strains and which ones he particularly liked for certain effects. Was able to quickly navigate the many strains available to accurately find the most sativa-ish ones, etc.

Staff Friendliness/Helpfulness: Very good. Was willing to work with us on the price for what we wanted, free flowing with information.

Strain/product variety: There looked to be about 18-24 strains there. They had a refrigerator of edibles and tinctures, salad oil, etc. We got some free cookies that had been cooked a little too long and so were hard (but not stale) and they were very strong.

Sell plants/clones: Yes

Grow their own: Yes

Will I go again: Yes, it's the only really fair dispensary I've been to so far in terms of value of my dollars.

neversummer
09-21-2009, 10:00 PM
Nice. The Cherry Lime Haze just energizes me where I wanna climb a mountain and sing 'RICOOOOOLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA'.

Found some Cherry Lime Haze in Frisco that looks a lot more like what you have on your blog. Got if for 57$ an eighth. Not bad. Definatley some bomb smoke. Could be a little drier and just a little more manicured, but its still good. They had some bubble gum that i wanted to try too, but didnt have enough cash.

TheStrainMan
09-24-2009, 04:20 AM
Ahhhhh Cherry Lime Haze, i miss thee. Nice find there Neversummer. Good to know it exists elsewhere.

TheStrainMan
09-27-2009, 02:58 AM
TheStrainMan Dispensary Review: Botanic Labs in Longmont

The Strain Man: The Strain Man's Dispensary Review: Botanic Labs in Longmont (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/2009/09/strain-mans-dispensary-review-botanic.html)

TheStrainMan
09-27-2009, 07:57 PM
Thanks for the heads-up on C3, naturelover... know their gram prices? I'd wanna sample everything that looks good :)

Dietblonde
09-28-2009, 06:23 AM
Stopped in at Cherry Creek Health the other day for the first time. Asked for them to recommend their finest indica, and got organic grown Mango Soma (aka Somango) for $62.50/8th. I don't like to, but I'll pay over $60 if it is top quality, and this strain was actually quite amazing for me. They seemed to have a nice collection of classic strains and cup winners. They were friendly, quick, and informative. I'll most likely go back because of their good selection.

KyndCollective
09-28-2009, 07:25 AM
Shits top notch for sure

9 outta 10


Skunky smell is so strong, its nauseating. We like it around here.

kingminus
09-28-2009, 08:23 PM
This place is the best. Always a huge selection of bomb meds. I made them my "CG" so it's $48-$52 an 8th +tax for the dankest. Bomb keif. Got some amazing Death Star, Sugar Skunk, and O.G. Kush. WORD! The budtenders are on top of their game. Lots of clones, tinctures, shampoo, etc... I've been to about 5 dispensaries in Denver but this one is the overall best.

HighPopalorum
09-28-2009, 08:44 PM
Shampoo?
:wtf:

palerider7777
09-28-2009, 10:55 PM
This place is the best. Always a huge selection of bomb meds. I made them my "CG" so it's $48-$52 an 8th +tax for the dankest. Bomb keif. Got some amazing Death Star, Sugar Skunk, and O.G. Kush. WORD! The budtenders are on top of their game. Lots of clones, tinctures, shampoo, etc... I've been to about 5 dispensaries in Denver but this one is the overall best.

sounds like u work there or know sumone who does? lmao

kingminus
09-29-2009, 04:55 PM
No dudes I don't work there and I only know them from being a patient. This is just me giving my honest opinion. I am not affiliated with any growers or dispensary owners. I just love GOOD meds. Keep up the good work on this thread.

Cloudland9
09-29-2009, 05:54 PM
Cloudland Caregivers llc.
[email protected]
Provider for several area dispensaries.

Serving mountain region (boulder county)


High grade cannabis, clones, help with setting up & growing cannabis.

Delivery service available.

Good genetics, organic growing method. Strains vary, current: heirloom bluberry (dp), Pandora's box (tga), kushberry, grape ape & sweet island skunk.

E-mail me for more info.

Dietblonde
09-29-2009, 08:43 PM
No dudes I don't work there and I only know them from being a patient. This is just me giving my honest opinion. I am not affiliated with any growers or dispensary owners. I just love GOOD meds. Keep up the good work on this thread.

Well, either way....keep trying other places. I've only been to ten, but Patient's Choice isn't really all that great. I have no affiliation or allegiance to any place. Shop around more!

p.s. i did score some bomb ass OG Kush from them once.

kingminus
09-30-2009, 07:50 AM
I tried Metro Cannibus after reading your review and found some real good stuff. Afwreck was killer at $25g. Russian ladies were nice enough. Thanx for the heads up. Which is your favorite of the 10 or so dispensaries you have been to?

Dietblonde
09-30-2009, 05:01 PM
I tried Metro Cannibus after reading your review and found some real good stuff. Afwreck was killer at $25g. Russian ladies were nice enough. Thanx for the heads up. Which is your favorite of the 10 or so dispensaries you have been to?

$25/g is too much, in my opinion, even for a good strain like Afwreck.

Almost every place has its charms, but there is usually at least one thing that frustrates me about any given dispensary. Prices or selection or customer service or lack of knowledge about products, location, etc. Maybe no dispensary will satisfy you/me 100%, but I think its better to try as many places as possible, record the pros and cons of each place, so when you want something specific (a strain or a price range or some place where you can get in and out quick or a place that has reliable edibles) you will know exactly where to go.

I'm not sure I have a favorite- I still have another 20 dispensaries I'd like to check out. So far I think the best experience I've had was at Cherry Creek Health.

neversummer
09-30-2009, 05:17 PM
Anything over $50 an eighth is just ridiculous. The place in frisco charges like $57, and they have a good selection, and a few top shelf strains like cherry lime haze. I like their hash though. Im not going to many dispenseries till they drop price big time.

dwknaisch420
10-02-2009, 11:59 PM
I live in durango and I am pleased with the buds and prices from Durango Healing center. Can be a little expensive, but as dispensaries go it is the best weed for the price. I was the first customer of this establishment, and have gone back 5 times. I prefer them over Natures medicine because the food quality they have is better and the prices are too. I am really upset with natures medicine because the first 2 lollipops i had didn't get me high at all and the tincture they sold me 65 bucks was trash. No refund or anything. I am not rich so that was very disappointing, especially because the budtender lied to me saying the tincture was 90% thc :wtf: . If that was the case I would have HAD to get high! but i didn't and was very upset over the loss of money. I am looking for a good cook in durango that can give me fair prices as I need very potent food. If you know of one, pm me!

TheStrainMan
10-03-2009, 04:22 PM
No dudes I don't work there and I only know them from being a patient. This is just me giving my honest opinion. I am not affiliated with any growers or dispensary owners. I just love GOOD meds. Keep up the good work on this thread.

agreed Patient's choice is just ok, and way over-priced. so many better meds for cheaper at other shops. sorry, lower the prices by 33%-50% and then you'll get my thumbs up.

HighPopalorum
10-03-2009, 05:11 PM
I live in durango and I am pleased with the buds and prices from Durango Healing center. Can be a little expensive, but as dispensaries go it is the best weed for the price. I was the first customer of this establishment, and have gone back 5 times. I prefer them over Natures medicine because the food quality they have is better and the prices are too. I am really upset with natures medicine because the first 2 lollipops i had didn't get me high at all and the tincture they sold me 65 bucks was trash. No refund or anything. I am not rich so that was very disappointing, especially because the budtender lied to me saying the tincture was 90% thc :wtf: . If that was the case I would have HAD to get high! but i didn't and was very upset over the loss of money. I am looking for a good cook in durango that can give me fair prices as I need very potent food. If you know of one, pm me!

I prefer them over Nature's Medicine as well, but have been disappointed sometimes with the selection. I also went to Nature's Own Wellness on HW3 the day they opened, and I liked the medicine. Another patient friend of mine shops there regularly and I've been impressed with what he shows and shares.

Nature's Medicine is kind of hit or miss. I have bought some good stuff there that looks like it should under magnification and smokes fine. On the other hand, they have some very junky looking marijuana in there. Yesterday, a patient who lives near me bought a half ounce of some local sativa that I thought was downright trashy. For top dollar, as well. I also really hate the way they make up fake names for their lower-grade stuff. Black Domino, Super Silver, Lamb's Breadth etc. The just change the name of a popular strain a little and write it on a jar. Deceptive business practice IMO. This needs to stop day before yesterday because it's sleazy.

On the other hand, the staff has been nice to me and they usually throw some freebies in and I bought a G of pressed kief that was very potent. I don't shop there much any more because DHC is better, and from what I've seen the place on HW3 is too.

Nice to see another Durangotang.
Peace!

HP

topjazzman
10-04-2009, 12:01 AM
GRATEFUL MEDS Great meds very nice looking buds.Nice people !!!!

Nederland,Co

FarmerSteve
10-04-2009, 04:51 AM
Where is Cherry Creek Health at? I'm setting up a hit list for when I go get my card.

Dietblonde
10-04-2009, 06:20 PM
If I can remember, Cherry Creek Health is located just off 1st ave on Cook st in the Cherry Creek shopping area.

Dietblonde
10-04-2009, 06:37 PM
Metro Cannabis/Cannabis 4 Health/Cannamart
*I put these 3 dispensaries together because I believe they are owned by the same group/company because each place has the same strains and edibles, and all three have had the same Eastern European accent.

Price: Poorly manicured buds start at $280, but I think one could expect to pay around $350 to $400 for most of their strains.

Atmosphere/staff: They are fast, non-intrusive, friendly and always give me free edibles or knock the price down a tad if I buy a good amount.

Quality/variety: They carry up to 40 strains at any given time. I've sampled some great strains including Afgooey, Blue Dragon, Romulan, and AK-47. They have awesome edibles, including the OG Brownies that really fuck you up. I can only take a bite at a time or I get too stoned ($15 ech).

Grade: A-[/QUOTE]


For some odd reason, I can't seem to edit this post...

...I've definitely changed my mind about this organization. My last experience rubbed me wrong. I wandered into another one of their dispensaries off Parker with the promise of 20%-35% off all products. Even with the discount, their cheapest strain was at least $400. The lady didn't know shit about the product there. She had to call the boss to ask questions (his name is Vladimer). They all seem to be nice people, but I just don't trust the product they're selling. I have talked to a few people since I've been to Cannamart, and they've told me that they've bought strains from them and they're pretty sure wasn't what it was advertised.

For that, I retract my glowing review. I'd steer people towards places like C3 Initiatives. I'll review a couple more dispensaries, but I'm too engulfed in sports today!

puntacometa
10-06-2009, 01:37 PM
Had a strong pepper smell.

My caregiver is going to have Omaha Willy's, Bluberry X Northern lights, Chocolope, and JAZZ very soon!

Pepper smell is ruptured trichomes....probably used one of those rotary grinders to manicure the bud.

:(

Dietblonde
10-06-2009, 07:53 PM
C3 Initiatives

Price: $280/oz for caregiver status. Non caregivers never expect to pay over $350.

Atmosphere/staff: Shane was very informative, friendly, and gave me all the time I needed. C3 seemed more intent on helping patients stay healthy than making a profit.

Quality/variety: I was able to sample 4 strains and they were all of top quality. Euphoria, Bubble Berry, God Berry, and Cali Orange. Potent and smooth, great tasting. Some of the better strains Iâ??ve ever tried.

Grade: A. Best dispensary Iâ??ve been to.




Biocare

Price: $10-$15 gram, tax not included.

Atmosphere/staff: I happened to stop by Biocare on their second day of business. They are located on 29th and Speer in a nice, upscale shop. The owner/grower was friendly and had a lot of helpful tips on making cannabutter. When I fudged on being short of how much I owed him (forgot tax was included), he worked with me, which was incredibly nice.

Quality/variety: Since he had just started his business, he had only 4 strains (Hindu Kush, Mt Cook, Cough, and Bubble Kush (I think)), all being on the indica side. I purchased Cough and Hindu to make butter with (havenâ??t yet), but smoked both, along with a sample the Mt Cook, and am pleased to say that each were better than their price. Nice selectionâ?? I believe they were all grown outdoors.

Grade: Aâ??. Yes, I will go back. Affordable, quality meds.

Dietblonde
10-06-2009, 08:06 PM
Cherry Creek Health

Price: $50-$60 range. Tax included, if I can remember correctly.

Atmosphere/staff: Couple of younger guys and a gal who were polite, patient, friendly, and informative. I really like the inside of their shop, which is located inside an office building. I only had to fill out one form that took all of 10 seconds.

Product/Quality: I asked for their best and got Fuzz (sativa) and Mango Soma (indica). The Fuzz was pretty good, but the Soma was fantastic for me. Loved it. They had about 15-20 strains, many I recognized as having very good reputations.

Grade: A. Great selection, average prices, location, friendliness, and quality meds.

FarmerSteve
10-07-2009, 02:42 AM
Thanks diet, keep the info coming. :thumbsup:

TheStrainMan
10-07-2009, 11:48 AM
C3 Initiatives

Price: $280/oz for caregiver status. Non caregivers never expect to pay over $350.

Atmosphere/staff: Shane was very informative, friendly, and gave me all the time I needed. C3 seemed more intent on helping patients stay healthy than making a profit.

Quality/variety: I was able to sample 4 strains and they were all of top quality. Euphoria, Bubble Berry, God Berry, and Cali Orange. Potent and smooth, great tasting. Some of the better strains Iâ??ve ever tried.

Grade: A. Best dispensary Iâ??ve been to.

i'm with you Blondie. C3 has their stuff together! The most care-giver'ish place of them all and great prices for quality meds. I've only been there once, so not ready for a strainman review yet but I love it so far. I had their Sour Diesel, Blowfish, and Euphoria. All excellent. How'd you like the euphoria? I thought it really pretty and very potent. Hard choice, but Blowfish was my favorite by a bit.

TheStrainMan (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com)

Dietblonde
10-07-2009, 03:52 PM
i'm with you Blondie. C3 has their stuff together! The most care-giver'ish place of them all and great prices for quality meds. I've only been there once, so not ready for a strainman review yet but I love it so far. I had their Sour Diesel, Blowfish, and Euphoria. All excellent. How'd you like the euphoria? I thought it really pretty and very potent. Hard choice, but Blowfish was my favorite by a bit.

TheStrainMan (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com)

Euphoria was top notch. I'm always poor at describing a high unless I'm currently stoned off the strain...but I remember it making me feel stunned and I spent a few hours thinking about life and myself. For me, its one that is mentally therapeutic. The other time I hit it, I went to the Rockies game where they clinched a playoff birth. I was smiling from the time I entered Coors Field until I left.

I haven't tried the Blowfish or Sour Diesel, but maybe next time!

FarmerSteve
10-08-2009, 02:20 AM
Hey guys, is this the C3 on Federal and 94th?

Dietblonde
10-09-2009, 02:53 AM
(This isn't a lot of info, but maybe it helps someone). I did some calling around to a few dispensaries to look into prices, and here's what I came away with so far:

Sunnyside
1406 W 38th
Ounces start at $350 on up.
Walk-ins

Walking Raven
2001 S. Broadway
$50 to $60 an eighth
Walk-ins

Wellspring Collective
1724 S Broadway
$300 - $425 (tax NOT included in price)
Walk-ins

Healing House
123 W Alameda
$35 - $60 (tax included)
Walk-ins. Apparently they have a cafe, chef, and tons of edibles. He's working on a gluten-free menu for Celiac's patients, such as myself).

Herbal Remedies
72nd and Federal
Starting at $320 (tax NOT included)
Call for appt.

Cannabis Kindness
4045 Wadsworth #306
$50 - $60
Appt only.

Jewel of Cannabis
424 Lincoln
Won't discuss prices
walk-ins welcome.

AMSD
6853 Leetsdale
Won't discuss prices
Walk-ins

Sorry I really don't have much more info than that. I was on a budget when I called around, so that was my main interest. Next time I'll ask more questions, but maybe this helps...

Feijao
10-09-2009, 06:49 PM
Some great reviews here guys. You all should sign up over at allmmj.com and start doing some reviews over there once the Dispensaries start listing there.

Feijao

TheStrainMan
10-10-2009, 03:38 AM
Hey DietBlonde, thanks for the list. I'll add some that were missed in my new
Colorado Medical Marijuana Dispensary MAP (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/2009/10/colorado-medical-marijuana-dispensaries.html)

So far there's a bunch of Denver shops listed, but will be adding more from all over the state when time permits.

Dietblonde
10-11-2009, 03:46 AM
Healing House
123 W Alameda
Denver, CO

Price: around $40 - $60 per 1/8th (tax included). I think their most expensive strain went for $440 for non-members, which I consider a little pricey.

Staff/establishment: Healing House is a quaint, two-story dispensary off Broadway a block on Alameda. No paperwork to fill out when you enter. The staff was friendly and I had a nice conversation with a worker while I was in line. The first level is where the waiting room and bud counter is. A few sofas and comfy chairs to relax on. Magazines strewn about. Wear a jacket because its cold inside! They seemed well organized and the budtender was patient and knowledgeable.

Upstairs is where they have a "cafe". Its quite neat, actually. I'm sure there's no other place like this in Colorado- where you can sit at diner tables and drink medicated coffee while surfing wi-fi and hitting any of their 3 volcano vaporizers. They sell medicated and non-medicated drinks and edibles. The "chef" is a friendly guy who has plans to expand his menu- ones that cater to diabetics and people with Celiacs.

Product Quality: Sounds like they usually have around 5-10 strains at all times. They say they grow their own. They must get good seeds because they typically carry strains like Chemdog, MK Ultra, Super Silver Haze, Romulan, Big Bud, Sweet Tooth, White Rhino, etc. Nothing too obscure. Strains proven to get the job done. They sell clones for $20. Edibles made from hash oil, did the trick nicely. Good selection. In the cafe, they serve medicated hot chocolate, hot tea, and coffee.

Grade: A. I'll hit them up for grams and I'm gonna be a regular at the cafe! Definitely a place to at least try!!!

HighPopalorum
10-11-2009, 08:14 PM
I like the sound of that coffeeshop. Here in Durango, there is no consumption within 15ft of the dispensaries so we'll never get one of those...:(

TheStrainMan
10-18-2009, 08:41 PM
Finally got to know C3 Initiatives well enough for a review. Check it out:

http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/200...review-c3.html

Dietblonde
10-19-2009, 05:39 AM
Nicely done, Strain Man! Keep up the GREAT work!

The Denver dispensary scene needs a website like Yelp.com so that the general public can sort through what dispensaries are legit and ones who are a rip off.

I hope that made sense. I'm currently blazed...

NedHead
10-23-2009, 01:56 PM
I agree with you on the One Brown Mouse dispensary in Nederland Colorado. They carry a line of edibles from Deez Wake N Bakery that are out of this world. Best/strogest edibles in the state by far. Nice selection of buds too. They had over 15 varieties some of which I've never seen anywhere else. Put this place on your list of places to check out.

plummygirl
10-26-2009, 03:47 PM
Hi. Hope I am doing this right as I am new on here. I wanted to ask if you or anyone else knew how become a grower for a dispensary? I don't know who to contact etc.
Thanks!!

kingminus
10-26-2009, 05:09 PM
I checked this place out last week. They had 5 strains. $55-$60. All looked killer. (I grabbed a g of super heady "Lucky Charms" and the lady only charged me $20). It's a real "doctors office" type place focusing on chiropractice and accupuncture. I was told that most of their patients don't even know it's a dispensary. Very nice lady, no caregiver pressure B.S., appointment only, (leave a message for call back), not crowded. Wish they had a few more strains and maybe some hash or keif but overall I give this spot a solid B.

TheStrainMan
10-28-2009, 03:15 AM
here it is folks, a new Strain Man review. Kick-ass herb in Denver!

The Strain Man: The Strain Man's Dispensary Review: Highland Health in Denver (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/2009/10/strain-mans-dispensary-review-highland.html)

Feijao
10-29-2009, 02:16 AM
Another awesome review StrainMan.

Feijao

gwendy35
10-29-2009, 05:17 PM
I recently visited Green Medicals in Northglenn on 107th and Washington. I was not impressed. The mid-grade (180 1/2 oz.) was only average. The buds were small and it seemed like it was mishandled. No crystals or trichomes to be seen. The top shelf stuff was ok, but expensive ($220 1/2 oz) They had many popular strands (Sour Diesal, grapefruit kush, purple mountain, etc.) But, I noticed they had very little if any smell at all. The Purple Mountain was beautiful, but not for the price they wanted. Oh, be prepared to pay sales tax. So that makes a $180 half ounce cost $217. For my money, I'll continue to use Front Range dispensary off 88th and Federal.:rasta:

kingminus
10-29-2009, 07:39 PM
In Englewood on Broadway. (Broadsterdam?) 10 to 20 strains. 60$ 8ths, 25$grm.(+ tax) Well known strains. I tried Afghan #1 and a AK- 47. Both were ok. alot of mid grade stuff. kinda over priced. They have a huge room with couches, pool table, x-box, piano, guitar. lots of graffiti on the walls. you can smoke out of one of their kinda dirty bongs if you bring your own lighter. Not alot of caregiver pressure and Drew and Bruce seemed freindly enough. They have a gang of killer clones though and they seem to know alot about growing. I give 'em a B. bring down the price a lil and I will be back.
Word

Dietblonde
10-29-2009, 08:10 PM
Funny how pricing can influence whether or not an experience at a dispensary was positive or negative.

kingminus
10-30-2009, 05:50 AM
some of us are not rich. some of us are not in cahoots with all types of growers or dealers. some of us just want to be able to afford a bag of high grade medication. yes price is a factor. some of us must have money to burn. not me

Dietblonde
10-30-2009, 06:04 AM
you and me both, my friend. price is probably my biggest factor in deciding where to go.

gwendy35
10-30-2009, 03:59 PM
I understand that they must charge a specific amount to cover overhead. Just like any other American enterprise. However, all the tactics used to make you sign over primary caregiver status is ridiculous. Also the problem I have with Green Medicals specifically is they are charging way too much for an average product. They also make you sign a form upon purchase making them your 1-day caregiver. This was strange to me. I read what I was signing and understood that I was "momentarily" signing over my caregiver rights to them for the date stated on the form. Also, they are very informal and have almost no type of privacy for you to discuss your needs without every person behind you overhearing your conversation. Usually not a big deal to me, but the annoying woman behind me was including herself into a discussion about my health and what meds I should try. I have a debilitating condition that isn't visible to the eye and I would rather not have strangers putting their two cents worth in uninvited. The way to solve this problem is to have a small consultation area that offers some discretion. Something like the divided windows at Walgreen's. Noone would ever tolerate a stranger over your shoulder advising you as to how to take your prescription meds, why the lax tolerance for cannabis. If these dispensaries want to make it, they must take a more professional stand. Treat your patients like patients. The last thing I need is a dorm-room drug dealer gone legit. The last thing the MMJ reform needs is a 25yr old kid peddling his "chronic" legally with the sole intent of profit and a total disregard for the reason cannabis was legalized for medical use. You guys want to see a change in legislation, a change in mentality? You have to be the ones to promote these changes. Refer to your medicine appropriately. It is cannabis. Not weed, not dope, not chronic. CANNABIS. Protect your right to medicine that isn't addictive. Protect your rights by respecting them!

Dietblonde
10-30-2009, 07:09 PM
Thanks Gwendy for calling out another bogus dispensary. If there were only a user-friendly, user-submitted website (i.e. yelp.com), that could allow the typical patient a chance to grade their dispensary experience...it could force dispensaries to get straight or lose returning customers.

I'm sick of hearing people getting ripped off and treated like shit by people who are supposed to be aiding in the well being of their clientele. Some of these dispensaries deserve to fail.

gwendy35
10-30-2009, 09:31 PM
The laws in Co re: MMJ have many gray areas. Some restrictions and accountability for caregivers is necessary to keep things legit. If you want to have the privacy of your patients protected under "hippa" you must also protect their privacy. The taboos of marijuana, weed, dope, dank, etc. is something that are going to be very hard to shake. It doesn't help when dispensaries are setting themselves up in locations that are very shady and disorganized. If you want to call it medicine, treat it as such. Dispense it professionally. Allow the patient the option to be spoken to in a more private setting. Remember how we have been forced to buy our meds before it was legalized. MMJ legalization is something that can very quickly become over-restricted if people continue to abuse the loop-holes and gray areas.

lampost
10-31-2009, 11:07 PM
I understand that they must charge a specific amount to cover overhead. Just like any other American enterprise. However, all the tactics used to make you sign over primary caregiver status is ridiculous. Also the problem I have with Green Medicals specifically is they are charging way too much for an average product. They also make you sign a form upon purchase making them your 1-day caregiver. This was strange to me. I read what I was signing and understood that I was "momentarily" signing over my caregiver rights to them for the date stated on the form. Also, they are very informal and have almost no type of privacy for you to discuss your needs without every person behind you overhearing your conversation. Usually not a big deal to me, but the annoying woman behind me was including herself into a discussion about my health and what meds I should try. I have a debilitating condition that isn't visible to the eye and I would rather not have strangers putting their two cents worth in uninvited. The way to solve this problem is to have a small consultation area that offers some discretion. Something like the divided windows at Walgreen's. Noone would ever tolerate a stranger over your shoulder advising you as to how to take your prescription meds, why the lax tolerance for cannabis. If these dispensaries want to make it, they must take a more professional stand. Treat your patients like patients. The last thing I need is a dorm-room drug dealer gone legit. The last thing the MMJ reform needs is a 25yr old kid peddling his "chronic" legally with the sole intent of profit and a total disregard for the reason cannabis was legalized for medical use. You guys want to see a change in legislation, a change in mentality? You have to be the ones to promote these changes. Refer to your medicine appropriately. It is cannabis. Not weed, not dope, not chronic. CANNABIS. Protect your right to medicine that isn't addictive. Protect your rights by respecting them!

Yeah, that is unfortunate, but who do you think is opening up and supplying these dispensaries? It's the people who were growing illegally a few years ago...

lampost
10-31-2009, 11:51 PM
I wanted to give some of my first impressions after trips to a few local dispensaries. I have been to C3 Initiatives, ReLeaf Center, Herbal Connections, & Herbal Remedies. The most important aspects to me when rating a dispensary are PRICE & QUALITY. Here's some brief info on each:

C3 Initiatives - This was the first place I went based on some of the reviews that I have seen here. This dispensary is no frills... basically it's a room in a community center. The guy, Ricky, was very friendly and helpful and spent over 30 minutes with me since it was my first trip. This place has VERY fair prices... the best prices that I've seen yet. However, I was not impressed with quality. It was not bad, but it was not the TOP quality that I was looking for. I will potentially come back here for economic reasons, but if I have the money, I will probably go somewhere else.

ReLeaf Center - This dispensary was really nice on the inside... hardwood floors, etc. They offered some snacks while waiting, nice folks. I had to sign some paperwork that said I was signing over primary caregiver, but the attendant assured me that it's just temporary (because I didn't fill out and sign the state form). I was a little leary at first, but after visiting a few more dispensaries, this seems common. You're basically giving them "temporary" caregiver status, although it doesn't say "temporary".
Anyway, I thought the quality here was significantly better than what I saw at C3. The herb was good quality, however, the edibles were crap! I got one for $8 and barely felt anything. I would steer clear from their edibles.
Prices here were too high for me. Top-shelf strains were like $62/eighth. Oz's for $410. However, I may be back for when I want top-shelf to see what they have. I was paying $400/oz on the black market for VERY TOP-SHELF meds, so $410 is pretty comparable. However, I will keep hunting for similar quality (or better) at cheaper prices.

Herbal Connections - This dispensary was pretty nice. The waiting room had a better feel than the ReLeaf, although it wasn't as swanky. People were hanging out having discussions and I even saw a packed bowl sitting there. May be able to smoke while you wait, but I didn't see anyone doing it. The prices here seemed much better than ReLeaf prices... maybe not as good as C3 though. The selection was pretty limited when I was in. They had a few strains and their top quality, Jack Flash, looked pretty good although I didn't try it. I picked up a few edibles and they were GREAT! Much better than the edibles at ReLeaf Center and they were only like $6-7. I got a triple-strength and it was probably a little stronger than what I was looking for... although I don't think I like edibles as much as vaporizing/smoking. Anyway, I'll be back here for sure to get another look at the herb selection. Seems like it could be a good middle ground for quality meds at fair prices.

Herbal Remedies - I was in this dispensary awhile back to have a doctor referral, so I wasn't actually shopping here. However, this dispensary has buds up front in the waiting room behind a glass case so you can get some idea of their inventory. I wasn't very impressed with this place. I immediately got the impression that it was all about the dollar bill here. I had some concerns about the price of the referral that they didn't explain to me on the phone and when I raised them, they were extremely rude... saying I was wrong and they couldn't possibly have given me incomplete/wrong information. I was pissed enough about getting some attitude that I took my business elsewhere. From what I saw of their product I would say they are way overpriced. I saw eighths going for $50-$75. The $75 eighth I saw was not that impressive either. The quality was good, but I've seen better. For $75 an eighth, that shit better culminate in an orgasm after smoking. Also, they had a case with plant "tops". These were "choice" nugs that they apparently felt justified in charging an even higher premium for since they were plant "tops". Gimme a break!! Charging more for tops!! Granted the tops may theoretically be higher in THC, but I bet it's not even noticeable... the difference in my opinion is negligible. Anyway, I don't think I'll be back here unless I hear things have changed.


So, those are some of my first impressions. And my first impressions have led me to believe that the only way to go is to grow your own. I ultimately need to grow my own in order to not go broke, however, I'm pretty sure I'll be back to a few of these to fill in the gaps.

Dietblonde
11-01-2009, 01:09 AM
Nice Lampost...way to contribute!

I agree with most, if not everything you posted. Sounds like ReLeaf might've went down in prices. And yes, they were pretty nice people. Also, you can smoke at Herbal Connections...good edibles, I agree!

Its pretty amazing how shitty some dispensaries are. Because there are so many options elsewhere, I will avoid Herbal Remedies based on your review. I'm not interested in getting the same treatment. I've already had enough poor experiences. Some places are all about the dollar. HR probably buy from other growers so they have to hike up the prices just to make anything. Seems like most of what they are about is dishonest and I'd rather spend money at places like C3 who actually feel like nice, caring, patient people. Good lookin' out!

gwendy35
11-01-2009, 02:30 PM
I loved C-3 initiatives. Maye I am not used to the same quality as others, but I thought every type I purchased was the BOMB! THE afgoohi and the sour diesal are awesome. He also had keif for 20 a gram. Tons of edibles that were great. the chocolate was amazing. The thing that impressed me was, Rick and Shane are great guys who are in this for the right reasons. Rick doesn't even get paid. It is a non-profit-organization for patient's rights. We should support these type of places. They are the only type of dispensary that cares about you instead of a profit. The negative: It takes a while to get your meds because they have the dispensary in a tiny room, and patients are seen one at a time. And although Rick and Shane are great guys, they like their meds, therefore it does take a little more time to get them to quit talking and take care of your needs. I will not be using another dispensary. The quality and the price will have me returning for all of my meds.

Reenster
11-01-2009, 07:00 PM
I would like to give my thumbs up to the folks at C3. I found most of their strains to be top shelf, but passed on the Jack Herrer. It did not look up to par.

We got several strains and the ones we have sampled are excellent. If you can manage to get your hands on Querkle, you will not regret it.

We are sampling the Querkle, Ice, Grape Ape, Cherry Lime, and AK47. The Ice did quick work on my migraine and the Querkle is a pleasure. I will pass on more information as I sample the rest.

I think the guys at C3 give you the most bang for your buck. Quality vs price is wonderful. They are a nice bunch and never rush you and make you feel like a patient not like a pocket book.

I recommend everyone checks them out.

copobo
11-02-2009, 12:39 AM
We stopped in Grateful Meds and saw perhaps the biggest selection ever. Grabbed some cheesecake and chocolates. You *know* what cheesecake I am talking about! We picked up 7 kinds of bud while we were there, all of it top notch. Also grabbed a couple clones. At $350/z sold at that price by the gram, comes out to $12.50/gram. And yea, you don't need to buy an oz to get that price.

THEN, we stopped in One Brown Mouse. Really nice little place, cool owner. From what I gathered, she grew at least some of what she had. Since it was Halloween we grabbed some medicated lollipops. My wife had a fun ride on one of these last night - Thumbs up!! I got a vial of glycerin based tincture ($60) because I was so damn curious. I believe the lollipops were made with this stuff, so I am very hopeful and will give it a shot once all the cheesecake we got is gone.

I also purchased a gram of her sour diesel, which was sold in it's own little jar. It was *outstanding* bud, though pricey ($18/g if I remember correctly). I would have purchased a bunch if the price was lower. Nice hippie boutique dispensary, worth checking out...

GratefulMeds
11-02-2009, 02:37 AM
We stopped in Grateful Meds and saw perhaps the biggest selection ever. Grabbed some cheesecake and chocolates. You *know* what cheesecake I am talking about! We picked up 7 kinds of bud while we were there, all of it top notch. Also grabbed a couple clones. At $350/z sold at that price by the gram, comes out to $12.50/gram. And yea, you don't need to buy an oz to get that price.

THEN, we stopped in One Brown Mouse. Really nice little place, cool owner. From what I gathered, she grew at least some of what she had. Since it was Halloween we grabbed some medicated lollipops. My wife had a fun ride on one of these last night - Thumbs up!! I got a vial of glycerin based tincture ($60) because I was so damn curious. I believe the lollipops were made with this stuff, so I am very hopeful and will give it a shot once all the cheesecake we got is gone.

Glad you left happy, be sure to come back up, we have over 45 strains on the shelves right now.

lampost
11-02-2009, 03:17 AM
I loved C-3 initiatives. Maye I am not used to the same quality as others, but I thought every type I purchased was the BOMB! THE afgoohi and the sour diesal are awesome. He also had keif for 20 a gram. Tons of edibles that were great. the chocolate was amazing. The thing that impressed me was, Rick and Shane are great guys who are in this for the right reasons. Rick doesn't even get paid. It is a non-profit-organization for patient's rights. We should support these type of places. They are the only type of dispensary that cares about you instead of a profit. The negative: It takes a while to get your meds because they have the dispensary in a tiny room, and patients are seen one at a time. And although Rick and Shane are great guys, they like their meds, therefore it does take a little more time to get them to quit talking and take care of your needs. I will not be using another dispensary. The quality and the price will have me returning for all of my meds.

I forgot to mention that they were out of most of Shane's meds when I was in C3. I did get some Sour Diesel, but they were out of Afghooey and Quarkle. The Sour diesel was good and a bit different. But, I still think the Sweet Tooth I got at ReLeaf was a step-up. Some of the strains I sampled at C3 were a bit dry too.
But yeah, I may come off as a weed snob to some people. I've been lucky enough to get amazing weed consistently, so I usually want nothing but the best. I think C3 has great meds and more importantly, they have them at a great price! But I don't think they have the "best" quality of all from what I saw...

Man, if I had the means I would open up a dispensary and grow top quality meds and try to sell them at about half price. I'd be aiming for $200/oz, $50/qtr, etc. Pretty much double schwag prices. I think if a dispensary could do this and supply the most primo nugs around for an unbelievable price, that they would change the game!! You would steal business from everyone and become a juggernaut making good profits by having more volume.
Also, I think this would ultimately force the other dispensaries to drop prices and sell at more reasonable prices. If I could grow the kind of primo nugs that I like to smoke then I would probably try to do something like this. But I don't think I'm able to do that yet...

gwendy35
11-03-2009, 06:18 PM
You must return to C-3 for some of the Quarkle. It is amazing! So good it is only a bedtime medicine for me. Definately not daytime meds. The kief is from Afgoohi and it is very good.

Dietblonde
11-03-2009, 06:31 PM
I stopped in at C3I yesterday and picked up Sour Diesel, Afgooie, Tangerine, and Double Gum. I tried the Sour Diesel and it was the best SD I've ever had. I was considering the Querkle, but I guess I'll pick it up next time.

I think C3's meds might be a little more dry because they don't get rid of their supply as quickly as other dispensaries, basically because they are trying to operate a smaller business, rather than being another Herbal Connections.

Anyhow, Shane told me this and I've read it elsewhere...if your buds are dry, take either a lemon or orange peel and seal it with your buds. It should add moisture back and give it a citrusy taste.

lampost
11-05-2009, 02:57 AM
I stopped in at C3I yesterday and picked up Sour Diesel, Afgooie, Tangerine, and Double Gum. I tried the Sour Diesel and it was the best SD I've ever had. I was considering the Querkle, but I guess I'll pick it up next time.

I think C3's meds might be a little more dry because they don't get rid of their supply as quickly as other dispensaries, basically because they are trying to operate a smaller business, rather than being another Herbal Connections.

Anyhow, Shane told me this and I've read it elsewhere...if your buds are dry, take either a lemon or orange peel and seal it with your buds. It should add moisture back and give it a citrusy taste.

I strongly disagree with the practice of putting an orange peel with your buds. I had a friend do this about 10-15 years ago around high school/college. His buds always ended up moldy and he'd still smoke it. If you're gonna do it, I'd only leave it in for less than an hour. It'll also introduce minutes quantities of sugars and such which and give the mold a fuel to thrive on.

Reenster
11-05-2009, 01:29 PM
The secret to putting a lemon or orange peel in your meds is simple. Do not leave it in there for days without "burbing". If you leave it over night make sure you open the container for 10 minutes or so before resealing it. After a couple of days remove the peel and reseal your meds. Do not let it stay unattended or it will mold.

I have used this method for years, in fact if I have a really nice strain and do not want to change the flavor or smell with a slice of orange or lemon peel I will just pluck off a fan leaf from one of my plants and place it in the mason jar. The bud will absorb the moisture from the leaf and become less dry. It will not change flavor or smell.

A piece of lettuce will do the same thing without changing taste or smell too much.

TheStrainMan
11-07-2009, 03:44 PM
I just found the most kick-ass care-giver service in the Nederland area called the High Country (THC). $320 oz's/$45 eighths of everything. Primary patients pay $300/$40. 1000 rooted clones at $15 each. Over 50 strains!!!! mostly organic. They supply most every other care-giver in the area except for One Brown Mouse, which is simply legendary (albeit pricey) in quality. If I'm ever skiing up there, there is no way I'd stop anywhere else cause they are the cheapest and have the absolute lowest prices in Colorado I've seen. Chek out the review:

The Strain Man: The Strain Man's Dispensary Review: The High Country (THC) in Rollinsville (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/2009/11/strain-mans-dispensary-review-high.html)

Oh and one more thing: MENTION THESTRAINMAN AND RECEIVE A FREE GRAM OF MEDS OR FREE CLONE with purchase!!!!

TheStrainMan
11-07-2009, 03:50 PM
I rarely hear good things about Grateful Meds in Nederland except for their $350 ounce prices. 4 people I know have already had quality and pest complaints in their meds. One guy had to drive back and return a terribly mite-infested quarter. I haven't been there cause they screwed over a good photographer friend of mine, but with many other care-givers quickly emerging in the mountains that have numerous amazing meds they grow themselves and cheaper, why go anywhere else. I wish One Brown Mouse was cheaper, but at this point I'm all about The High Country (THC) when I drive up to hang with mountain buddies.

GratefulMeds
11-07-2009, 06:47 PM
I rarely hear good things about Grateful Meds in Nederland except for their $350 ounce prices. 4 people I know have already had quality and pest complaints in their meds. One guy had to drive back and return a terribly mite-infested quarter. I haven't been there cause they screwed over a good photographer friend of mine, but with many other care-givers quickly emerging in the mountains that have numerous amazing meds they grow themselves and cheaper, why go anywhere else. I wish One Brown Mouse was cheaper, but at this point I'm all about The High Country (THC) when I drive up to hang with mountain buddies.

You're Buddy took pictures of my BUD (Sage) and you gave credit to another dispensary on the front range for it, Shame on you. As far as quality of meds that we provide I will take the pepsi challenge with brown mouse, or anyone else for that matter anytime. Our clients that drive religiously from all parts of the State to buy our medicine always leave happy. We wholesale to 14 dispensaries all over the State so odds are that you see the medicine we grow in many different dispensaries. We have over 52 strains on our shelves, with our Sour Diesel Grown Organic/soil leading the pack, with our Sage a close 2nd. StrainMan you have never been in my dispensary but you talk us down constantly, is this jealousy or ignorance? I invite you to come see for yourself anytime. I can give you the names of several patients that come from Aurora, Colorado Springs, Durango, Steamboat and all over the front range if you need some feedback. Oh ya all of this is word of mouth we don't advertise, we don't need to. Do it right and the people will come! The Truth shall set you Free!

TheStrainMan
11-07-2009, 07:37 PM
Neither ignorance nor jealousy, Grateful. I'm loyal to my friends, so I'll never step foot in there given his and some other stories I've heard. He assured me that Sage was someone else's, so I'm going to believe my friend over anyone else. And sorry, but I know lots of care-givers and dispensaries and those that are truly successful don't have enough to wholesale, because their numerous patients need all their supply and more. Hence they call as many folks (like you) as they can to get meds.

Shame? Someone showed me the Lambsbread you guys grow (and claim this one of Bob Marley's favorite strains is an indica, while the REAL thing is almost a pure sativa). There are cows that would turn that hay down. I thought the guy was joking when he said it came from a dispensary let alone proudly grown by said dispensary. Would you really put that up to the pepsi challenge? really? REALLY????

Oh and now that Aran and fellas at THC are out in the public eye, why bother anywhere else???? cheaper, incredibly grown, unreal genetics and variety, 1000 rooted clones, and a free gram or free clone for mentioning TheStrainMan.

TheStrainMan
11-07-2009, 08:50 PM
1st post to attack me. hmmmmm. We've seen this play before. it's against forum policy to have multiple nick's.

Are you suggesting I shouldn't listen to or have loyalty for my friends? I knew this would happen as soon as I say something bad about a dispensary, they're gonna call me a liar. I'm imagining friends and lying all of a sudden; cause yeah, that's what I'mknown for in the community. OK fine, I can take it. That's why I don't do bad reviews anymore. People get pissed. But when a friend gets screwed over, hell yeah it upsets me. It would anyone I would hope.

anyway lets all get high and my apologies to anyone I have offended this morning. :S5:

pfunk211
11-08-2009, 12:48 AM
i've said it before and i'll say it again, grateful meds is the best dispensary i've seen around.
top notch all around; never had anything that tasted less than perfect out of them and all the clones that i've got are strong and beautiful.
honestly, i can't believe anyone would ever say anything bad about the place.

HighPopalorum
11-08-2009, 01:56 AM
I've had half a dozen or so different products from GM and was only disappointed by the Mandarin Haze, which I thought was generic and lackluster. Other than that, I'm impressed.

Dietblonde
11-08-2009, 02:22 AM
man, things have been a little testy around these forums lately.

I think its important to remember that a dispensary is no different than any other business. For example, lets compare one to a restaurant. If you own a restaurant, you must acknowledge that not everyone that walks into your restaurant is going to enjoy your food or service. It comes with the territory, and no one is obligated to give you any feedback. People will talk shit about your business. They may even say things that aren't true. There's not much you can do about it so take it in stride.

What can you do? Take to heart any criticism that might make its way to you and try to learn how you can provide better service and product. If you are 100% cocksure that you're doing the best you can and you want to hold pepsi challanges because you're so sure, then why would you need to get into petty arguments on a message board in the first place? The clients you have who like you will spread the message for you.

topjazzman
11-08-2009, 03:20 AM
WoW !!! Strain Man ,I really like every reviews that you have written.I have been smoking for over 42 yrs and since 1990 for my heath problem.So lets say I have been around the block.Have not been to the new store sounds great.The mouse I agree with you on.GM I have been to now 3-4 times.I drive 85 miles round trip.I have talked with eveyone involved with it.They have always been very good to me with price and meds.I to agree with the other post on the mand.Plus two of the owners our like myself,Oldguys no bullshit !!
Thats what I enjoy.I do understand that you stand behind your friends and that is cool,but strain man you need to go in and ck.them.They do not know you whats the harm.As to suppling other stores I know nothing on that and really do not give a shit.I just need my meds to be alive.I have been to alot of places to.I enjoy going up there even if it is a pain in the ass drive,but a scenic dr.I guess that is a wash.This is not meant to piss you off,just my take on it.Peace,Jazz

TheStrainMan
11-08-2009, 03:53 AM
cool, glad you all have a place you enjoy. And jazz-so very cool you found yerself folks akin to yourself, that's worth any long drive in my book. $350 per oz was revolutionary 6 mos to a year ago when others were (and many still are) charging at least $400, I'll give em that.

I prefer the kind of care-giver that provides the FIRE yet leaves me with more twenties in my pocket. Maybe cause of all the outdoor harvests, I've been seeing a downward price trend and dare I make a prognostication: the Colorado killer kind ounce will break $300 for non primary patients soon at some places. Just heard about a group outside Ward that may be even cheaper than the $320 at THC. That's the beautiful thing about this country: competition, and with that, the patient always wins.

lampost
11-08-2009, 11:43 AM
I've yet to try Grateful Meds, but I've been wanting to and will probably get up there next week. I remember hearing good things earlier in this thread. For me though when a dispensary advertises having tons of strains, like 30+, it's kind of a negative in my book. 52 strains is kinda ridiculous. I can't imagine how they'd all be good. I don't see why I dispensary would really need more than like 15-20 strains at any one time. A few indicas, a few sativas, a few hybrids and you're covered. When I go in a dispensary, I'm basically looking for the BEST grown buds in there.
I guess there's a lot of people chasing down specific strains and such though so maybe it's a good business move. For me, the strains don't mean shit other than whether it's got sativa properties or indica properties... and the difference is subtle. Obviously, a high THC strain is preferred, but I'll take whatever looks like it's been grown the best.

Oh yeah, I really wanna check out THE HIGH COUNTRY in Rollinsville. TSM do they have a storefront shop in Rollinsville or how do you get meds.. I guess I'll read your review.

Peace,
LP

TheStrainMan
11-08-2009, 12:55 PM
Hey lampost, THC has a home office a few miles south of Nederland in the heart of Rollinsville. They do appointment only, so check out the review, contact info at the end.

I'm with you on strains, I've been researching and testing so many and the differences in buzz are small among well-grown herb (similar to the wine industry, I think, except for the different sativa/indica combos). Stocking lots of strains is exciting for some recreational-leaning patients, but only if they're well grown. Med patients I know prefer the smaller-selection shop that grows only the FIRE, like Botanic Labs in Longmont: 12 strains of different sativa/indica percentages. ALL UNBELIEVABLE.

I don't trust shops that either don't grow their own or grow below average weed. I suggest folks ignore the strain name at first and just trust their nose and eyes when picking out dispensary buds cause I've seen so much mis-labeling/mis-info out there.

TheStrainMan
11-08-2009, 05:24 PM
Anyone know anything about this strain?

lampost
11-09-2009, 08:07 PM
From what I've been able to gleen from google its Northern Lights x Trainwreck.
I was able to pick some of this up and it tastes really nice. I think its outdoor?

davo420
11-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Just want to say thanks to everyone posting in this thread. Some great information, kind of pissed it took me this long to find it. StrainMan, keep up the great work. Just stumbled onto your blog a few weeks ago. Great info on their!

I've been to a few dispensaries around Boulder/Denver recently. Here are some of my take aways.

Pain Management of CO

Variety (strains, edibles, tincs, clones, etc):
2 Strains-AK47 and another that I would consider a low B grade
Only edible was peanut butter cups

Quality/Price:
The AK was actually pretty nice. Big buds, didn't looked abused or packaged at all. The other B grade strain sucked. Didn't smell good or even look good. He wanted some astronomical price for the AK ($475/ oz?). I think I got him down to like $220 for a half. No taxes.

Staff Knowledge Level:
He told me that AK 47 was Afghani x Kush. Was misspeaking on how the law works

Location/Ambiance Comments:
Location was fairly easy to locate. Ample parking. Security seemed good. Main door was locked and had to be 'buzzed' in. Once inside, it was not very impressive. A receptionist and a few chairs in the lobby area. Miles was back in an office, and their seemed to be a storage area in the back. Miles mentioned they had ordered display cases etc, that would be setup in that area. Not sure what they plan on displaying but...

Overall:
Over the phone I had been told they usually carry 5-10 different strains (all 'top quality'), with a line of edibles, and have a professional chef on staff working on more. Mentioned a Roasted Turkey Breast. Everything was great at my first appointment. Checked in at the shop, filled out some papers, and went across the street to see the doctor. Came back and met with Miles. Their 'typical 5-10 strains' quickly turned into 2. Their 'line of edibles' quickly turned into peanut butter cups. CLASSIC BAIT AND SWITCH!! I would not, and have not returned. Left wondering WTF I had just paid him $250 for.


Boulder County Caregivers (BCC)
Boulder County Caregivers, LLC (http://www.bccare.net/)


Variety (strains, edibles, tincs, clones, etc):
Typically at least 10 strains. The most I've seen is like 18 I think. Always have bubble hash, tinctures, and a ton of edibles. They get their edibles from Twirling Hippy and they are awesome. Brownies, Cheese cakes, cookies and the list goes on. The fudge tastes and feels good, and they have 3-4 different flavors. They also sell 7th Floor products at a heavy discount. They have a grow tent and have several clones/cuttings in various strains. I've seen some pretty nice cuttings in there of Chiesel, NYC Diesel, Sour Diesel, Black Domina, Mazar, Purps and more.

Quality/Price:
The bud is usually very good. I'd say that they normally have 1-3 A+ strains at any given time. Some of the best stuff I've had from them are OG Kush, Grape Ape, some killer Skunk #1, Grand Daddy Purple Kush, and too many others to name. When I first started going the top meds were running $350-400. Now it seems that they are all $400 with some $420 and I've seen one or two at $440. I've seen a 'B Grade Mix' for around $250/oz. Actually didn't look to bad.

Staff Knowledge Level:
Very helpful, knowledgeable and friendly. I believe that most of them are caregivers as well, so they are very helpful with growing tips and know their strains.

Location/Ambiance Comments:
Very discrete. Ample parking. Located within an office building. Very secure. Enter from the main hall into a security room, where ID is checked and than you are 'buzzed in'. Once inside there is a nice waiting area with couches. They have the grow tent setup in that room so you can check out what's available. Usually have a little display with jars of each of the meds they currently have. I like this so if you have to wait you can get prepared. They have a massage room and offer free massages to members on certain days.

Overall:
These guys are my current caregivers so I maybe a little biased. The place is nice, professional and a pleasure to work with. Definitely worth stopping by if you are in North Boulder. Although not all of their meds are the super super they offer a good variety and a good price ranges. If you like edibles check them out. They have great stuff. Some of my favs are the raspberry cheesecake and the raspberry chocolate cheesecakes. I always pick up 1-2 pieces of hash fudge when I'm there, you can't go wrong with that stuff!

420 Highways
420HighWays - Medical Cannabis Dispensary in Colorado (http://420highways.com/)

Variety (strains, edibles, tincs, clones, etc):
Decent variety of strains. When I stopped in there were about 10 strains available. They some WW, Nectarine, Maui, SIS, Harajuana, AK to name a few. They also have a bunch of edibles. Peanut Butter bars, cookies, fudge, muffins, bread, granola bars. As well as hash and keif. They had Tootsie Rolls that were a double dose (.4 g I think). Didn't get one, but will when I go back. They had tinc and clones. They had Olive Oil which I haven't seen at too many places as well as lotions (??).

Quality/Price:
They categorize meds between Grade A and B for pricing purposes. I'd say they had 1 Grade A and the rest Grade B or C. This place is pretty expensive. $20g straight up for non members. $400-450 oz breaks, this is for the Grade A. Prices drop for members, but still are on the high side if you ask me. $17g, $119 quarters and zips from $325-375. The quality was not the best. First off the place is poorly lit. The display case is small with crappy samples of the meds. I only found one strain that met my standards. The Nectarine. Had never heard of it before but it is AK47 x Migraine. Very nice bud. Wasn't overly handled and smelled and tasted great.

Staff Knowledge Level:
The lady that owns/runs the place is super nice. Very friendly and seems to have done a lot of research before opening this place. Was very well spoken on the law. She knew about the strains she had which is always appreciated.

Location/Ambiance Comments:
Location is nice. About 1 block off of Public in downtown Lafayette. Not a very discrete location, but parking is ample. The shop itself could use a little work. It is poorly lit, which doesn't help when trying to look at the meds. The back area is very small, big enough for one patient and a bud tender. This wasn't a bad thing as no one was there when I was, but I could see quite a wait if a few people were there. The display case the meds were in was horrible. They were in a plastic beed organizer. Wasn't big enough to get a good representation of the meds. Fairly secured place. You have to ring the door bell to be let in. Cameras all over the place.

Overall:
I little on the pricey side for non members. They do( or at least did) offer a free gram if you bought a gram coupons (check the website). The quality of the meds just wasn't there for me. I will be back to get some more of that Nectarine though. Nice clean high with an unbelievable taste.

Botanic Labs

Variety (strains, edibles, tincs, clones, etc):
Only product this place had was top quality meds. No clones, edibles. The meds are very very nice. There was about 10 strains when I was there. Great variety from Sour Diesel, BoulderBerry, Sharksbread, Hong Kong, Jackie White, LA Ultra and Sweet Tooth.

Quality/Price:
Quality was top notch. And for $20 g it had better be. You can't buy more than 7g at a time with no more than 3g of one strain. Quality over Quantity is most definitely the theme here. All buds looked perfectly grown, cured and cared for. I had a hard time choosing what I wanted, which never happens to me at a dispensary. I decided on getting 5 different 1g. I got Hong Kong, Sharksbread, LA Ultra, Sour Diesel, and Sweet Tooth. The Diesel was some of the best I've had in the state. The LA Ultra was very very nice.

Staff Knowledge Level:

The owner is also the grower. He knows his shit. Just talking with this guy you can tell he's been growing for a long time, and the meds show it.

Location/Ambiance Comments:
Location is discrete. It is located in an office building. One of the nice things about this place is that it is appointment only. So it is only you and the owner. This gives you a great chance to get details on all of the different strains without feeling rushed. Not much security, but not sure if any is really needed. Sounds weird but when you are there you'll know what I'm talking about.

Overall:
I will be back! This place is just too good to pass up. Definitely more of a connoisseurs place and not a main dispensary option. Everything in there was super heady. He orders most of his seeds, so you know what you are getting. He had the original Jackie White package from Paradise. Great place to get some nice nice meds.

Denver Releaf--Delivery Only!

Variety (strains, edibles, tincs, clones, etc):
I've only had 2 strains from this place. They are delivery only so you have to call to see what they have. Last I called they were offering about 5-6 different strains. They also have hash. Not sure about edibles and they don't sell clones. I wanted to try this place after I heard about their Bio-Diesel strain. I believe it is Shiva Star x Sour D crossed by their grower. And it is yummy! Super strong sativa high with that awesome Diesel taste. I've also tried their Budda's Sister. Very nice. Both strains were perfectly grown, manicured and cured. I also believe that they grew both of these strains. They've also had Apollo 13, AK, Hash Plant, and some more.

Quality/Price:
Price is high. $65/$130 for the Diesel. I believe the Budda's Sister was $60/$120. These were the non-member fees. Members are charged less. I'm not sure how much. Quality was great. The Bio D has become one of my favorite new strains. It's expensive, but ordered from them a couple times now so that has to tell you something.

Staff Knowledge Level:
Kevan was a great guy. He's the one that answers the ones and sets up the deliveries. Knows a lot about the strains. Super friendly guy. I've only dealt with one of their delivery drivers. Great guy. Was knowledgeable about the strains they had.

Location/Ambiance Comments:
No location yet. Delivery only in the Denver Metro area. Delivery was fast a convenient. Although the first time the driver never showed up. Ended up not being a huge deal. Ever since than no issues. They are planning on opening a physical location at 1st and Colorado. I think it should be open soon.

Overall:
It sucks that you can't check stuff out before you order it, but the Bio-Diesel alone is worth checking out. On the more expensive side for non-members. I'd actually be interested to find out there member prices. Delivery is pretty sweet. Usually available to deliver within an hour or so of calling in. I can't comment on all of their strains but the strains that they grow are worth checking out. Their grower knows his/her shit! I just saw this on their website."Bio-Diesel is a current entry in the 2nd Annual Medical Marijuana Harvest Cup - Colorado's own Canabis Cup for Medical Marijuana patients!" I didn't even know we had one of those. How can I be a judge?

Ballpark Holistic Dispensary

Variety (strains, edibles, tincs, clones, etc):
Had about 8-10 strains when I was in there. A pretty nice variety. They had suckers and cookies. They had some other edibles. They do sell clones. They don't have them in there (yet?) but you can order them. Some of the strains they had were Jedi, Chronic II, Grape Ape, to name a few. One of the sweet things about this place is that they also sell growing equipment and nutrients. 25% of retail prices on Hydrofarm and they stock Advanced Nutrients.


Quality/Price:
Prices were on the high side. ranged from $17-20 gram. There were breaks but not much until you got up to 1oz. I picked up some of the Chronic II and the Grape Ape. The Jedi looked nice and I wanted to, but it looked pretty beaten up. Still covered in trichs, but not how they should have looked. The Chronic was just that. Hit me pretty good. The Grape Ape is super tasty. Nice purple finish and smoked nicely.

Staff Knowledge Level:
The budtender when I've been in there isn't the best. Not very knowledgeable about the growing process, but seems to try which could cause problems. He told me that they water cured their meds. I was like WTF!! He was talking about flushing not curing. It was actually pretty funny to me.

Location/Ambiance Comments:
Skeetchy!! Right at 21st and Larimer in Lodo. Next to all of the pawn shops, down the street from the homeless shelter. Don't get me wrong that area is getting nicer and nicer by the day, but when I walked out of that place, I couldn't help but keep looking over my shoulder. Zero to no security as well. They share a space with a Pilates gym. You walk in off of the street into a little lobby area. You then keep walking straight through an unlocked door back to the dispensary. Not very secure. When I was back there, two people just rolled straight in.

Overall:
Place has some potential. It just opened up a few weeks ago, so they are still building everything out. They need to get some locks on the doors! If you grow, 25% of Nutrients and supplies is pretty sweet. They have a pretty good stock of digital ballasts, bulbs, reflectors, fans, and Advanced Nutrients. I believe they also have GH. Can't really beat that. The smoke was nice, and I will go back to see how things progress. Biggest issue I had was that no one even asked me to see my license or my ID...!!! Just walked in, checked everything out, picked up some and walked out...

AlterMeds
Welcome to AlterMeds - AlterMeds - Medical Marijuana Dispensary in Louisville, CO (http://www.altermeds.com/)

Variety (strains, edibles, tincs, clones, etc):
They had about 8 strains when I stopped in. From their website it looks like they have a bunch now, 18 or so. Pretty decent variety. AK Skunk, Trainwreck, AK, Cough, and some others. Had a pretty good amount of edibles available. They have teas, hash, and had a few clones.

Quality/Price:
$20 g for non members was the price. Let's put it this way, I 'settled' on buying a gram of their AK Skunk. I really couldn't find anything that looked worth the price. They had some chocolate cake which looked really good. But it was a tiny tiny slice for $15! No thanks. I settled for a peanut butter cup for $5. It was pretty good, but wasn't very strong. They have a Star price range system. 3 stars being the most expensive.

Staff Knowledge Level:
I'm indifferent on this one. The Budtender knew about all of the strains they had. He is a grower/caregiver as well, so he knew what he was talking about.

Location/Ambiance Comments:
It is located in a strip mall right in Louisville. Fairly discreet. Very secure. Walk into a secured room with what looks like 3 inch thick glass. Slide your papers and ID through and they let you in. The place is setup very nice. Probably one of the cleanest, decorated places I've been to.

Overall:
Place was super nice and the people were very friendly and professional. They had only been open for a week or two when I had stopped by. I will probably swing by again to see if the quality gets any better. Price was to high for the quality of the meds. $15 for a piece of cake...WTF! They did have the incredibowl for sale there. That thing is crazy! After reading StrainMan's review, I'm thinking about getting one.

Dietblonde
11-10-2009, 12:54 AM
Davo420...great job, man!! Your thorough and honest reports (as well as others here) really help those of us who are searching to find dispensaries we trust to give us quality service and meds for a reasonable price. Feel free to keep posting more!

I must say, I feel fortunate to be under the care of my current caregiver because it just seems like not many places keep prices low AND have great service AND have top quality meds.

TheStrainMan
11-11-2009, 03:22 AM
lampost, thanks for the lineage on permafrost, the taste/look totally make sense now!

copobo
11-11-2009, 03:46 AM
I drive about an hour to use grateful meds. There are a dozen closer dispensaries (or 2 dozen!) I'm in my forties and have been medicating a long time.

Everyone there is nice, the herb is fantastic and is priced very fairly at $350/z. I've gone home to find an extra gram in a q/z. I don't work there. I have sold them nothing. I await my first crop, with clones, seeds, advice, and some fantastic herb to hold me over from them. Never once have they asked me to sign over caregiver status. It would take a big man to stop in and see the deal & I bet you folks can work it out! Be big! Remember, a rising tide raises all boats so we need to support each other in this!

lampost
11-15-2009, 11:13 AM
I was able to make it to Healing House and I was pretty impressed.
Atmosphere: Nice, seemed like a cool little coffeshop that I would hang out in
Quality: Very good. Looks like the quality was pretty good. They were entirely out of some of their better strains where I was there... trainwreck, LA Confidential, a couple others. But they did have in Chemdog which I was able to try and it was definitely pretty good. I couldn't tell if it was indoor or outdoor... I think outdoor.
Price: Average to slightly better than average. Looks like 8ths of their best stuff is $60 and everything is sold at that rate (3.5g for $60) from a gram up to an ounce. So, buying a gram would be a fairly good deal @ ~$17, but an Oz @ $480 is not good. Tax is also included in those prices as well which is good.

The thing that makes this place great is that you can medicate upstairs in the coffeeshop type area. It's pretty convenient and they have a volcano and some tubes you can use. I've always wanted to try a volcano so I was psyched to use it. Everyone was really friendly up there and it was cool.

I'll definitely be back there to pick up a gram or two of the top-shelf and go sample it in the coffeeshop.

lampost
11-17-2009, 02:29 AM
I tried this dispensary recently over on S Pennsylvania Ave. Someone obviously shilled the reviews over at weedmaps.com or legalmarijuandispensary.com. It's got 5 out of 5 stars in every category with like 10 reviewers. Don't be fooled, it's been shilled. Anyway, I decided to check it out.

Firstly, their approach to privacy and exterior facade was much different from any dispensary that I've been to. There was a giant storefront window and looking in from the street it looked like a coffeeshop. There is only one room, so business is basically done in front of a huge storefront window! It is done at a side counter so the product isn't really in plain view of the window, but it is most likely in line of sight with the window at some point during the course of business. This seems like he is just asking for trouble! How hard would it be to just hang a black sheet in the window to dissuade nosy onlookers and just follow the damn rules!! You aren't supposed to medicate in public view, so you probably shouldn't be purchasing meds in plain view either.

So, the entire dispensary is one large room. There's a small waiting area up front with a few chairs/couches and the main dispensary area basically looks like a coffeeshop counter. He had probably 7-8 strains. 3 strains were $50/eighths and the rest were $45/eighths. The $50 strains were Ice Cream, Alaskan Ice, and Heavy-Duty. I tried the Ice Cream and Alaskan Ice (was out of Heavy-Duty). The Ice Cream was pretty good and was definitely high-quality. The $45 strains I saw were Purple Trainwreck, Durban Poison, Jawa (?), and a couple others I don't recall.

He gave me a small sample of Maple (?) buds but I overhead him telling another customer that he's not selling it because 1 person complained of mold. But I would think that if you're not selling it because of mold worries then you probably wouldn't want to give it away either!?

Anyway, this place was OK. Not much variety, but they did have 2 strains that were fire. If this place was in the 'hood I would definitely go there, but it's a bit out of the way for me, so I probably won't be back. I think at some point they're going to have to do something about their storefront window as well. I kinda like to have a bit of privacy. I have a professional job and I don't want somebody walking by seeing me purchasing cannabis in a window.

Pricing is $20/g, $50/8th, and I didn't really see if there were discounts beyond that... maybe.

Dietblonde
11-17-2009, 03:31 AM
Is the place you're talking about called B Goods? I saw a place today on south Penn called that. Sandwiched between a coffee shop and a restaurant.

I'd be interested in trying Ice Cream and Alaskan Ice. Reputations on them are pretty good.

lampost
11-17-2009, 06:42 AM
Yes, that's the place!

After a night of smoking, these buds look a bit better than they actually are. I wouldn't exactly call them fire... but they're not too bad.

StoneyJake
11-17-2009, 07:46 PM
You must return to C-3 for some of the Quarkle. It is amazing! So good it is only a bedtime medicine for me. Definately not daytime meds. The kief is from Afgoohi and it is very good.

That Quarkle was some great smoke. I loved the tangerine... MMmmmm I went back for seconds on that one :P They had some good blueberry too. Most around here has been crap lately..
My only problem with C-3 is they have to many low quality buds. Yeah they have 40 strains but it took me 30min to find 3 that I wanted. It looked like most were grown by inexperienced growers. Id say get rid of half the strains they have or organize them better instead of just plopping 40 jars on the table...
The price is right since and they are very good people over there so I will keep going back. They can improve though

I have been going to a dispensary on yale and I-25. Its run by a family, two brothers and their mom. How cool is that. They wont ever charge more then 350 for any strain and they have discounted ones too.

Edit: oh and the Afgooi was great also. I cant forget that :P

kingminus
11-17-2009, 09:30 PM
Who do you guys think has the strongest fire? C-3 or Botanic Labs? I have been to C-3 but not Botanic. Is it worth the drive to Longmont from Ken-Caryl?

Dietblonde
11-17-2009, 11:15 PM
I'm going to check out Botanic Labs but only if I'm ever in the region.

That Tangerine was grown by a grower who Shane considers the best in the state. That strain puts me out in 15 minutes flat. Very sedating. Great, stable high.

Okay, so it seems like the best dispensaries in the region are finally getting noticed and its seems like the same ones get the most recognition: Grateful Meds, One Brown Mouse, Botanic Labs, C3I, THC in Rollinsville, etc.

In your opinion, what are the 5 best dispensaries in the region? I would love to know because I wanna go where the fire's at!

lampost
11-19-2009, 03:16 AM
I made a visit to Delta-9 today and I'm pretty happy that I did! Stopping in a bit early, there was only one other person there. I'll just give you brief rundown.

Atmosphere- Nice. Shares a building with a tattoo parlor, but really just shares an entrance vestibule. When you enter Delta-9 there is a front waiting room and a window. They check your cards here and buzz you back once you're verified. Once inside there's a very nice waiting room. I didn't have to wait long so I didn't get a great look, but there was a big screen TV and some couches and some books. Nice waiting room... one of the better ones I've been in as far as comfort goes.

Next, into the bud room. Called back one at a time I got to discuss the buds at length with the budtender/owner. He was a really nice guy and seems to know quite a bit. More knowledgable than some of the budtenders at other Denver-area dispensaries. He didn't rush me or seem bothered that I took up a bunch of time...

Bud Quality - Fantastic. I thought there was some pretty good stuff in here. He probably had 7-8 or strains, some different phenotypes of the same strain. Blueberry, Critical Mass, Double Sour Diesel, Bruce Banner (OG Kush x Strawberry Diesel, developed by grower there). I sampled the Critical Mass, Double sour diesel, and Bruce Banner. They were all very good. I REALLY like the Bruce Banner... it's got a very complex taste that I can't really describe. Also, the Double Sour Diesel was really good. Really trichomed up! Really tasty. Did the trick for me.

Price - OK. However, if you assign them caregiver I think it's ridiculously good prices. I thought he said $70/qtr? I could be wrong, but seemed like there were great deals for assigning caregiver status. Otherwise, it was $22/g, and then $55/eighth all the way up... Since I'm a heavy smoker these prices are a little higher than I prefer, but I'll definitely be back here. The owner knows quality and seems to only offer quality buds. All buds are the same price, top-quality.

stuartambient
11-19-2009, 03:33 AM
Anyone check out Greenleaf Farmacy in Boulder ?

stuartambient
11-22-2009, 07:30 PM
Anyone check out Greenleaf Farmacy in Boulder ?

I'll respond to my own post . This is a new dispensary in Boulder, about 1 1/2 week opened. Between getting someone on the phone first try , and getting some initial questions answers I had a good feeling about them . The phone thing is big for me , even though i realize people get jammed and need to respond later to voice mails it adds to professionalism when they can find the time to answer the phones as best as possible. Last but not least , I'm just applying first time and they were / are (you'd need to check) giving a free medical evaluation. No cost outside of the state fee. The paperwork was done efficiently and professionally. Receipts, copies, forms all.

In a great location. Large store in the back and a nice sizeoffice up front. Very clean and nice looking place. There was also a $100 store credit along with signing up. Obviously they are now my caregiver. I met the employees, one of the cultivators who assisted me in my med choices and the owner. All very friendly , warm and professional.

I don't know how many strains they have , I didn't count. However from the price sheet I want to say it looked like today was 25 + . Low grade to top shelf (literally) and price 12/gram - 23/gram. They told me they do discounts on 1/8ths as well. I thought that was cool from reading some of the other reviews. I don't know what the discount is , it's slight on the 18th.

I chose 3 of the top shelfers , Cherry Lime, Bubble Berry and Sour Kush and added some edibles. A nice printed receipt with the strain name to assist me in future purchases was a good touch.

Well the only thing to do now is ... however I did try 1 peanut butter cup (quite tasty) $5 about an hour ago and I'm impressed.

Well I don't typically write reviews about much , but I wanted to share , Hope this helps.

SA

neversummer
11-24-2009, 04:20 AM
Top 5 are

High Country Healing - Silverthorne
C3 Initiatives - Denver
One Brown Mouse - Nederaland
Healing House - Denver

no one has earned the right to be #5, and no one can even compare to the medecine by caregiver grows. His sour star is off the chain.

topjazzman
11-24-2009, 05:17 AM
Grateful Meds Primo Selection Primo prices Primo Service !!!!!

Worth the drive.

TheStrainMan
11-24-2009, 05:36 PM
thanks for the review SA. please keep em coming

stuartambient
11-24-2009, 05:45 PM
thanks for the review SA. please keep em coming

I'm hoping you make it over there soon so I can hear your expert review.

I also subscribed to your blog.

TheStrainMan
11-24-2009, 06:00 PM
I'm hoping you make it over there soon so I can hear your expert review.

I also subscribed to your blog.

Very cool man, welcome aboard!

TheStrainMan blog (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/)

LukeRamsey
11-24-2009, 11:28 PM
Top 5 are

High Country Healing - Silverthorne
C3 Initiatives - Denver
One Brown Mouse - Nederaland
Healing House - Denver

no one has earned the right to be #5, and no one can even compare to the medecine by caregiver grows. His sour star is off the chain.

Nice to know High Country Healing scores so high with you. If I get my recommendation that's where I'll be going anyway because it's the closest. Thanks for the review!

Dietblonde
11-25-2009, 09:43 AM
Hi everyone, I have a new dispensary review that you can check out on my blog.

The Denver Chronicle: Colorado Alternative Medicine | Dispensary Reviews (http://denverchronicle.blogspot.com/2009/11/colorado-alternative-medicine_25.html)

Bandit0724
11-25-2009, 04:00 PM
If I can remember, Cherry Creek Health is located just off 1st ave on Cook st in the Cherry Creek shopping area.
Is Cherry Creek Health the same as Pain Management of Colorado Inc.? The addresses are the same I think...

topjazzman
11-26-2009, 09:45 PM
Stay away from Pain Man. They are reallllly bad.RIPOFF !!!!

lampost
11-26-2009, 10:58 PM
Had the chance to run to this place over my lunch break. Nice waiting room, quick paperwork...not sure about handicap accessibility as it's on the 2nd floor of a strip mall....maybe there's an elevator?

Anyway...there was some great quality here!! They have strains from Botanic Labs so you can sample his stuff there, but they have some other stuff. I got some Green Crack there that was probably some of the best stuff that I've ever seen in 15 years of smoking only dank!

Price will prevent me from becoming a regular. They sell grams from 17-20 and then they have 1 indica and 1 sativa for 13. They have no breaks on price for any qty, so if you got a 1/4 it'd be 7 x gram price. So, I'll only go to this place occasionally...like yesterday to get some kill budz for after thanksgiving turkey!!

kingminus
11-27-2009, 04:06 AM
In your opinion, what are the 5 best dispensaries in the region? I would love to know because I wanna go where the fire's at!

1. C.A.M. - new place. $50 1/8 cap(no tax) on EVERYTHING ('cep sour d they pay a lil more for from a vendor-killer looking @ $60). tons of strains all real top notch. No c.g. b.s..nice people. clean and cmfortable place. my new fave!

2. Patients Choice - $48 1/8 for members. always have at least 5 top notch supa-fire meds. good edibles(have'nt tried too many elsewhere). very professional and always treat me like they know me. I hate having to try to get an appointment though. plus they close between 2 and 3 (thats my lunch break). so I discovered...

3. Delta 9 - YEAH! the day I went he only had a few strains so he gave me the member price. $40 1/8 (+ tax )is by far the best I've seen ($55 for non members).
he also kicked me down a nug of killer OG kush. in fact the Black Domina I got was supreme also as was all of what he had. I might think about making this my spot!

4. Healing House - $60 an 1/8 is too much for me. $18 for a g of fire is ok occasionally. especially if there is a sick straight-out-of-Amsterdam coffee shop upstairs with vaporizors on 3 booths, freshly cleaned and iced down bongs, bubblers and all types of papers and grinders and pokers... guitar in the corner, cute coffee/bong tender girl, medicated coffee or hot chocolate. BEST PLACE IN DENVER! oh the meds are'nt bad but not the best I've seen.

5. I have'nt found a spot on par with these four but will continue the search

Vancefish
11-28-2009, 03:30 PM
Loved this thread, thanks everyone.

I had questions on which dispensories I should check out. Unfortunately seems all the best are a bit of a drive, and prices are a bit rich compaired to the lousy brick I typically get :eek: LOL.

Once I've been to a few of these I'll review what I've seen.

FarmerSteve
11-29-2009, 06:56 AM
Vance, what are you doing still getting brick?

stuartambient
11-29-2009, 11:58 AM
just a follow up as I returned to GreenLeaf Farmacy yesterday. This was my second time there. I feel they are unique. One reason as I stated earlier (see my thread above) the medical evaluation was no cost as I did take them as my caregiver.

Anyway, I decided to try some of their mid tier medicine . Their ranges are from 12/g to 24/g . I chose Jack Herer (18/g) and a hybrid Sour Diesel / Dark Star (14/g). Now I cant' remember if you need to be a member for the discount, however the discounts start at 4 grams - which is 10%, 7 grams (1/4) at 15% and 1/2 oz at 20 %. I believe the 20% is the largest discount, so that would apply to a full z.

I like the place. For one thing it's convenient for me being in Boulder (where I live). They have some nice glass, a growing edibles selection. Yesterday they had added ice cream and lollipops. I got a lolli ;) which said it contained 1g. Also books, and some vaporizers all sold at the right price. The silver surfer was 249 same as online pricing.

I still like the atmosphere. It's a nice size space, and a good size room as the store. The main reason I'm posting about this place again was to report on my mid tier findings. As well the extra details I found out. Currently they are working with other local cultivators but will be moving to (or adding) their own grown strains.

Hope this helps. I do not work for them :) , just sharing my experiences

TheStrainMan
11-29-2009, 04:48 PM
I like those $13 weekly specials nugs, cause they are always top shelf. Yeah the green crack is excellent. I just posted some quality photos of what it looks like close-up:

PurpleUrkle, Thai Diesel, and Green Crack from BAM (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/2009/11/strain-mans-photo-of-moment_28.html)


Had the chance to run to this place over my lunch break. Nice waiting room, quick paperwork...not sure about handicap accessibility as it's on the 2nd floor of a strip mall....maybe there's an elevator?

Anyway...there was some great quality here!! They have strains from Botanic Labs so you can sample his stuff there, but they have some other stuff. I got some Green Crack there that was probably some of the best stuff that I've ever seen in 15 years of smoking only dank!

Price will prevent me from becoming a regular. They sell grams from 17-20 and then they have 1 indica and 1 sativa for 13. They have no breaks on price for any qty, so if you got a 1/4 it'd be 7 x gram price. So, I'll only go to this place occasionally...like yesterday to get some kill budz for after thanksgiving turkey!!

davo420
11-29-2009, 05:16 PM
C3 Initiatives

Variety (strains, edibles, tincs, clones, etc):
Large variety. They had about 30 strains when I was there. They had a bunch of edibles, tinc and was sold that you could order clones, but none on hand.

Quality/Price:
Out of the 30 strains, I settled on buying two. Yep that's right only two!! I had a pocket full of $$ too. Walked out with 1/4. That should say enough (but I'll write more) I picked up some of the Sour D and Afgooey. Buds are super frosty with trichs, and LOADED WITH FUCKING SEEDS!!! That's right, I haven't seen this many seeds in a bag of fire in my life. I'm talking like I put 2 little buds in my grinder to vape. From those 2 little buds I get 2-5 seeds. That is messed up. Price was great. Only paid $50/eighth + taxes. If I had paid more I would have been pissed off! Most of the strains they had were pretty crappy. Tiny, compressed buds almost looking packaged. There were some jars that had more shake then bud...

Staff Knowledge Level:
Poor at best. They guy that helped me (can't remember his name, but he told me he grows the ISS there) didn't know much. I'd pick up a jar, and ask is this indica or sativa, and he'd grab a piece of paper look it over, and say not sure.

Location/Ambiance Comments:
If I used a numerical ranking system I'd give C3 a 1 out of 5 in this category. If I used a star ranking system I'd give them 1/2 star out of 4. This place is a s**t hole. I had to wait 35 minutes. Standing there around exercise equipment, construction crew, and a bunch of random people. They share a space with some organization and they currently have one room, the size of a small office. I finally get in there, and am greeted by a desk with about 30 mason jars on it. WTF is that! Messed up thing was that they had a couple of shelves right there on the wall that they could use as a display. Instead you have to pick up every jar to find out what it is.

Overall:
It seemed obvious to me that this place doesn't give a crap about their meds. From the quality to the presentation I was very disappointed. Seems like every review I've read has been very positive, so maybe the bar was set too high, but I'm not sure they would have cleared any bar no matter the height. I'd pick up one jar and it would be full of shake. Pick up another jar, and there is a stemy, scraggly bud. Just not impressed at all. After waiting for so long to get back there ( there is 1 guy in the back when I got there, and it took him 35 minutes to leave) I literally walked in the room, saw the total disorganization of the strains on the desk and said out loud, no wonder it took that guy so long. The whole process from the long wait to the seedy buds just sucked for me! They are in the process of building out a better room with a display case etc. If I keep seeing positive reviews I may go back when that is done, but as of now, I'd rather pay a little more and not have to deal with C3.

lampost
11-29-2009, 07:23 PM
I atually agree with most of what you've said about C3. They get a lot of props around here and I don't always understand it! The guy I've worked with there, Ricky, is a really nice guy and I think he's trying, but for a few more bucks I usually have a better experience elsewhere. With that said, it looks like they're expanding and offering greater capacity and a more traditional "budbar". However, that still probably won't be enough to get me back there.

As far as atmosphere is concerned, yeah, this place pretty much sucks! It's one tiny room adjacent to a huge, abandoned rec room in the basement of a sparsely-visited (until now probably) community center. I always feel like a criminal walking past the people upstairs who appear to have no/little association with the dispensary! Then when you get downstairs be prepared to wait if there is someone before you... ESPECIALLY if this is a first-time customer. Ricky will spend 45+ min with you if you're a first-time customer, which is nice, but maybe unnecessary for those that are already informed. So, if you're stuck behind a few people the wait can be tremendously long. This will probably be changed for the better soon with the new layout and expansion.

Atmosphere can be overlooked if the quality is there, but for me it is not. I've been pretty disappointed in the buds that the in-house grower produces! People had talked up his meds so much and they say the dispensary was built around his meds, but I usually find better meds among what they've purchased from independent growers. The Afgooey... which contained 3 seeds in a gram... was grown by their in-house grower. Not only did it have seeds... which aren't as big of a deal to find anymore with all the clones around.... but it wasn't that good!! I mean, it was loaded with trichomes, but there really wasn't much flower material... it was just REALLY trich'ed up leaves.... semi-wispy buds that were almost ENTIRELY leaf material. I can see where the untrained eye may look at these buds and think they're great because of all the trichs, but in actuality they are far from great. There is little taste, they burn unbelievably fast, and the effect for me was pretty much unnoticeable. The other meds I tried from the in-house grower were similar. It was a Sour D that didn't taste a thing like Sour D... in fact it tasted similar to his Afgooey. I think something is happening in the growing process that is not allowing these buds to meet their potential. They have a really odd "sweet" and "clean" taste..... could this be due to a lack of flushing nutes before harvest? Don't know...

I hate to dis this place because it seems a lot of people here love them, but this is just not the place for me either. However, if you're not that heavy of a smoker (lower tolerance) and you are tight on money... this place could be a godsend for you! I can see where some people would LOVE this place, but it's not for me.

davo420
11-29-2009, 07:45 PM
It was a Sour D that didn't taste a thing like Sour D... in fact it tasted similar to his Afgooey. I think something is happening in the growing process that is not allowing these buds to meet their potential. They have a really odd "sweet" and "clean" taste..... could this be due to a lack of flushing nutes before harvest? Don't know...


That is too funny... I didn't mention it in my post, but I was thinking the same thing. I got the Sour D and the Afgooey. The Sour D definately has a funky non diesel taste. Haven't been able to pin down the exact flavor yet. But my Afgooey tastes the same way, and they look almost identical.

PufferLungs
11-29-2009, 11:32 PM
I've been to C3 twice. First time tried some Sour D and Maui. The Sour D was alright, but I liked the Maui better for my particular pain.

2nd time I tried their Afgooy and more Maui. The Maui is leafy - looks like somebody tried to rush the harvest and left the leaves on to make up weight. Total BS. The Afgooy is LOADED with seeds. In a 1g nugget, I pulled out 7 seeds. That's a shitload of seeds. The Afgooy is good quality, but not happy with the seeds. The Maui is good, but I'll bet 1/3 of the weight is untrimmed leaves.

I'm not at all impressed with their whole operation. Sitting around an old worn out exercise room full of broken down equipment. Minimum 30-45 minute wait both times I've been there. Jars and jars and jars and jars just sitting on the table with no real organization. No knowledge of the product. Just completely unorganized. 5x8 room with a credit card machine and a couple stoners inside trying to act like professional business men - straight outta Arkansas.

Glad I found this thread. I'll be visiting a new dispensary in the future. I don't care if it's $3 more per gram. Mu fucking TIME is worth $3/gram!! Got better things to do than sit around on worn out gym equipment and wait 45 minutes for seedy buds.
:mad:

kingminus
11-29-2009, 11:40 PM
finally someone is being honest about C3. went there 2 months ago and had a similar crappy experience. I dont know why some dudes gave them a good review on here.

PufferLungs
11-30-2009, 12:13 AM
I'm glad to find this thread so I can hit some REPUTABLE dispensarys. My next trip is to Golden.

Don't get me wrong, I think Shane and Rick are nice enough guys. I think the pricing is okay - it's a little high, but it's nothing to throw a tantrum about - especially for somebody who doesn't grow and doesn't have a care giver. It's just too unorganized for me and I don't like waiting 30-45 minutes. My TIME is worth more than that. I don't have 1.5 fucking HOURS of my life to drive over there, sit on my ass on some old sweaty gym equipment for 45 minutes - spend 10 minutes trying to just get what I want and then drive home. It's 1.5 fucking hours!! And the place is like 5 miles from my house. Ridiculous!! I want to get in and get out. Got other shit to do.

I ESPECIALLY don't like paying for seeds in the Afgooy and leaves in the Maui. I've been around awhile. Was born in 1971 and been smoking since I was 16yrs old. You do the math. I've seen some weed and smoked some weed in my day. Not all that impressed with C3.

Got better stuff on the street when it was illegal. These are supposed to be legit - nurtured strains grown under better conditions. The risk of going to federal prison was REAL back in the day and most grow rooms were set up so they could be dismantled and disposed of very quickly.

That's the rumor anyway...... ;) I wouldn't know a thing about that. :thumbsup:

And here we got legal meds - supposedly grown under better conditions with organic nutrients ....... the shit has seeds in it and it's still loaded with leaves to make up for the weight because some jackass got greedy and rushed the budding cycle.

No more C3 for me.

topjazzman
11-30-2009, 01:51 AM
wasting your time going to both of them.

Vancefish
11-30-2009, 03:40 AM
Vance, what are you doing still getting brick?

:D Yea, yea,.. Haven't had my license very long and have never been rich:thumbsup:.

Now that I am Licensed and VERY plant apt. I will not be "BRICKING" it anymore. Planning a small grow room and have a few friends signing rights to me too. Hoping for 36 plants worth of people. I have enough room for around 15 to flower. So, plan is still developing. Until then I need to check out the shops,:hippy:

Might still see a few 1/4oz rocks on my tray before a crop comes in too!

Vancefish
11-30-2009, 03:42 AM
and Strainman,...why is Greatful meds NOT on the map?

neversummer
11-30-2009, 07:47 AM
C3 does take waaaaaay toooo long. And that exercise room is ghetto. I wasnt super impressed with the bud either. I did like the kif a lot though. The location is way too far out of my way, and takes too long to get average bud. I can get way better bud far cheaper from my caregiver.

neversummer
11-30-2009, 07:48 AM
High Country Healing is most definitely my favorite dispensary in Summit County. They have a really nice waiting area with free gatorade, snacks, and a flat screen tv. The location is very clean, professional, and well decorated. The staff is friendly,honest, and very knowledgeable. No appt. required, but you can make one if your from out of town. One brief sheet of paperwork and show id you are buzzed into a very large, but cozy medicine room. There is another huge flat screen tv, and an awesome view of the Gore Range. They also have a clone room on the side, with an ever changing tray of genetics. There is a huge glass bud counter with over 30 strains of medication, edibles, hash, vaporizers, tinctures, and all kinds of goodies. The have a few different price ranges from $35-$55 an eighth plus tax. I have found some really tasty and stinky smelling master kush, sour diesel, chemo #5, purple urkle, G x13 Haze, and many others but those are my personal favorites. I have been going in for a couple months, and love the atmosphere. I am always greeted by a friendly warm staff who remembers my name and never rushes me. They are always interested in my well being. The budtenders are cool too. They have a lot of soil, grown organic medicine, which is what i prefer. If you ask questions they will give honest answers. I know that High Country Healing is putting in hard work everyday to keep making improvements, and provide more services for their patients too. The high country is the place to be.

puntacometa
11-30-2009, 03:29 PM
Review:

Cannabis Therapeutics
907 E. Fillmore St
Colorado Springs, CO

Prices: $3-$400/oz

Caregiver Policy: Patient must sign over his/her caregiver rights for service.

Quality of Product: Did not try the products. See caregiver policy above. Some of the products looked good and some looked okay.

Atmosphere: Unpleasant. The first thing that happens when the door opens is you're greeted by this big macho intimidating bouncer with an intimidating presence. He lets you into the lobby where he checks your ids and stuff, and leads you on any tour/information gathering you might want to do before you sign over your caregiver rights. He brought us into the back room where they have all their displays and do their business and they happened to be trimming in that display room at the time of our visit. It was difficult to really get a good look at the stuff they had and much information about it in that kind of environment.

Staff Knowledge: Seemed like the bouncer had a lot of info memorized that he spouted off and stuff, mostly about the way their dispensary worked rather than about the medicine. He was the only one we got to talk to.

Staff Friendliness/Helpfulness: We were looking at the jars in the display cases maybe about a minute and a half after entering the display room (where they were trimming product right there in the middle of the floor onto a tarp that we had to walk around) when the phone rang and the bouncer immediately picked it up and waved his hands in front of our faces and motioned us out like "it's time to go now." Nobody but the bouncer even acknowledged our presence at all. I don't know if they would have been friendlier if they hadn't been trimming in the middle of the floor in the display area of their store, but our experience was you don't get to talk to or meet anybody but the bouncer until you've signed over your caregiver rights.

Strain/product variety: There looked to be about a dozen strains there. They had a refrigerator of edibles and capsules, hard candy, tinctures, bubble hash, glasswork. We didn't really get a chance to see it all on our brief tour.

Sell plants/clones: Yes

Grow their own: Yes

Will I go again: No

You and I must have been there on the same day at the same time because I could describe this same scenario exactly with the trimming going on, phone call, etc. Were they passing a bong around? I have seen this too, though I don't recall if that was happening on this particular occasion. Considering the fact that their customers mostly show up in cars and will be driving them away subsequent to their visit, I thought this was pretty unprofessional. They used to be my caregiver.

To be fair, relative to quality, I have purchased some extremely good quality product there. I have also bought clones that hermied......more than once. Given that I was very careful with them and am an experienced grower, I'm not inclined to believe it was pilot error.

Just my $0.02.

justinsane33
11-30-2009, 11:30 PM
i feel kinda bad piling on c3 but ricky convinced me to try the sour d and it was boring. the kif wasn't any better than what my grinder picks up. he sold me what he said was iss and if it was it sucked. i haven't even tried the querkle i bought cuz i don't expect it to be any good. but MY GOD! if you want tinctures they have the best i've tried. only tried from one brown mouse, healing house, and my caregiver but c3's night time tincture works like a charm every time.

Kartel
12-01-2009, 04:18 AM
The other meds I tried from the in-house grower were similar. It was a Sour D that didn't taste a thing like Sour D... in fact it tasted similar to his Afgooey. I think something is happening in the growing process that is not allowing these buds to meet their potential. They have a really odd "sweet" and "clean" taste..... could this be due to a lack of flushing nutes before harvest? Don't know...



Its not from lack of flushing. It would be harsher. I hope the in house grower addresses the problem, whatever it is. I mentioned it to him and I might print your post for him.

Dietblonde
12-01-2009, 08:04 AM
Hi folks.

Sorry to see c3 get so much criticism lately.

I provide some of the medicine that c3 initiatives stocks in the last few weeks. Hasn't anyone tried the Double Gum, Critical Mass, Super Diamond AK, or double diesel????

The double diesel is actually double sour diesel.

I have nothing to say about the quality of anyone else's medicine that is available. You won't be disappointed if you try some of the medicine mentioned here, I wouldn't sell it if it were junk like 99% of the meds around here are :rastasmoke:

Lotus medical in Lodo also carries these meds.

I've tried your Double Diesel and I like it quite a bit. I'm no marijuana expert, but I've found some very pleasant effects from your crop. Helps my nausea and appetite, gives me closed eye visuals at higher doses (most diesels do) and its an aphrodisiac to some degree. I've had the Double Gum from C3I as well and I had no complaints. Its been a while since I had it so I can't remember how it helped me.

I've read the recent criticisms of C3I on these boards and though I might agree with a few issues, my priorities and expectations are probably much different than others. For example, I don't give a shit what the bud tastes like. My palate is dull, any way.

I will continue to go there because I believe they can work out their problems. There's PLENTY of dispensaries that are far worse than C3I that deserve much more thrashing. I think people just don't think they deserve the hype. But their prices are low, they are great people, and their herb is good enough for me.

neversummer
12-01-2009, 08:12 AM
Hi folks.

Sorry to see c3 get so much criticism lately.

I provide some of the medicine that c3 initiatives stocks in the last few weeks. Hasn't anyone tried the Double Gum, Critical Mass, Super Diamond AK, or double diesel????

The double diesel is actually double sour diesel.

I have nothing to say about the quality of anyone else's medicine that is available. You won't be disappointed if you try some of the medicine mentioned here, I wouldn't sell it if it were junk like 99% of the meds around here are :rastasmoke:

Lotus medical in Lodo also carries these meds.

I got the double gum at Delta 9, and then saw the exact same at C3. I did like the Double Gum a lot, and my friend said the Critical Mass was good. I just dont like waiting super long 45 minutes in a weird gym room.

FarmerSteve
12-01-2009, 10:14 AM
I'll be at c3 later today and will report back with my findings. But I have to say, sight unseen, that a lot of times, the best people have the least amount of money. It doesn't sound like anyone is questioning Rick's or Shane's heart, and I bet they'll get things worked out as they grow.

And what is "Double Gum"?

Reenster
12-01-2009, 02:54 PM
Have had several visits to C3 over the last month or so and really hoped to see them progress along. The have a huge selection with maybe 6 strains that are worth my time.

The environment has always been substandard. Their new dispensary room looks like it will be a massive improvement but is not progressing very quickly. I was also hoping to see the waiting area improved. Maybe just move the chairs and coach closer to the dispensary and place the excersie equipment towards the rear of that massive room.

Not being able to see quickly and easily what strains are available really slows down the process. I was there several times before I knew that they had a fridge with candy and Cannabutter in it. With the disorganization of the strains, the massive amount of tictures, candies (the hard candy is excellent) and the personality of Ricky it can take an hour just to make a selection. Ricky is a great guy, friendly, talkative and alittle spacey. The scale can offer him challenges.

I have always been happy with the Afgooey and Euphoria. Their prices are certainly reasonable and better than many in the area.

I am not sure that I will take the 1 hour round trip there anytime in the future. With the amount of dispensaries opening we all have alot of choices. The patients will be the ones to decide which dispensaries actually make the cut. I hope to find a dispensary to call "home" closer to my house. Aurora will not allow dispensaries atm so hopefully I will find the price, quality and customer service without driving an hour.

These threads have been great in my quest for medicine. Thank you all for your input and expertise.

davo420
12-01-2009, 04:01 PM
There's PLENTY of dispes that are far worse than C3I that deserve much more thrashing. I think people just don't think they deserve the hype. But their prices are low, they are great people, and their herb is good enough for me.


I feel my inital review of c3 got the ball rolling on these not so positive reviews.

I was by no means trying to single out c3 as the worst place in Denver. I agree that there are probably far worse. I guess I'm just fortunate that I haven't had to deal with a lot of those.

But for all of the 'positive' hype that has been created on here about them, I had to share my experience as it was horrible. Granted not everyone will agree,and that is fine.

I guess I would challenge people that LOVE c3 to go and try a few other places out there. At some you may pay a little more but I feel that it is worth it.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

justinsane33
12-01-2009, 04:13 PM
i feel the bottom line on c3 is that if you want cool people, cheap prices, and decent meds that's an awesome place to go. if you care more about quality there are places you can pay more and get fire with less customer interaction. eventually there'll be a few really good dispensaries with environment, pricing, and quality but for now you tend to have to pick and choose.

FarmerSteve
12-02-2009, 11:56 AM
Made my first trip to C3, or ANY dispensary for that matter today, and here's my beginners take.

I can see where those of you who have had access to specific strains, especially those that are grown well, might have a problem with their buds. Maybe. They had a huge selection, 3 people working a VERY busy day (The Doctor was in) and they worked very fast and were cool with everyone. There was a great vibe in the room, a lot of joy. Rick was working with a older couple the whole time I was there about tinctures. That man loves what he's doing and the people he gets to work for, I'll say that.


The basement IS a bit ghetto. But I've gone to worse places to get worse stuff. Can anyone not say the same. I don't need a big screen TV, I don't wanna hang out. But at the same time, I went right in with no wait.

I tired their Organic Blueberry, Master Perm, and Double Gum. All three were great strains, tasty, well cured and I would say properly flushed. The flavor was there, although the buds seemed maybe a little leafy and airy. BUT again, to a guy like me, at this stage, I don't care. Thank God I can have my meds. I was able to combine a variety of meds to get into a happy and pain relieved state, and how the buds look don't matter. They're ALL beautiful.

I'm going to try other places, because part of this great journey is the chance to sample all the different wares. But that said, C3 offers a good vibe, good prices, and VERY good bud from VERY nice people. I care about who I do business with, and I like nice people, and I want to support them, they deserve my money for nothing more than they make the world a happier place to live in.

Kartel
12-02-2009, 04:09 PM
I've tried your Double Diesel and I like it quite a bit. I'm no marijuana expert, but I've found some very pleasant effects from your crop. Helps my nausea and appetite, gives me closed eye visuals at higher doses (most diesels do) and its an aphrodisiac to some degree. I've had the Double Gum from C3I as well and I had no complaints. Its been a while since I had it so I can't remember how it helped me.



Glad you enjoyed it. They have some more double gum at c3, so try it again if you'd like to.



I got the double gum at Delta 9, and then saw the exact same at C3. I did like the Double Gum a lot, and my friend said the Critical Mass was good. I just dont like waiting super long 45 minutes in a weird gym room.

Yeah delta9 is all right folks too. They mostly had in house medicine yesterday, but their bruce banner that is on the shelf right now from their in house grower is pretty nice (all 3 phenos of it are good).


I'll be at c3 later today and will report back with my findings. But I have to say, sight unseen, that a lot of times, the best people have the least amount of money. It doesn't sound like anyone is questioning Rick's or Shane's heart, and I bet they'll get things worked out as they grow.

And what is "Double Gum"?

Sensi seeds 'double gum.' Sativa in effect and growth, and despite what the ad says, she is more spicy than sweet. Actually she is a generally unknown gem IMO.




I'm going to try other places, because part of this great journey is the chance to sample all the different wares. But that said, C3 offers a good vibe, good prices, and VERY good bud from VERY nice people. I care about who I do business with, and I like nice people, and I want to support them, they deserve my money for nothing more than they make the world a happier place to live in.

Shane and Rick are nice folks. :jointsmile:


If any of you need a caregiver, we are seeking a couple more patients, you've tried some of the medicine. This is bubba kush:

stuartambient
12-02-2009, 09:45 PM
anyone been too these 2 :

Our Services | Compassionate Pain Management | Dispensary in Louisville, CO (http://www.compassionatepm.com/services.php)
(compassionate pain management) superior

Boulder Wellness Center (http://boulderwc.com/)

I know many use the term wellness, this one is in boulder off , somewhere off
araphahoe and 55. Looks like edibles and tinctures mostly .

copobo
12-02-2009, 10:09 PM
prices *start* at $20 a gram at both of the dispensaries in Louisville.

the moratoriums have been good for nobody, except these dispensaries that squeezed in last minute.

stuartambient
12-02-2009, 10:43 PM
prices *start* at $20 a gram at both of the dispensaries in Louisville.

the moratoriums have been good for nobody, except these dispensaries that squeezed in last minute.

that's not good . I'm sort of curious as to what kind of revenue these dispensaries pull in. Is it serious or a struggling business with some of the startup / survival cost gets kicked back to the customer.

FarmerSteve
12-03-2009, 06:28 AM
Update on C3's stuff. Man, I just couldn't be happier. And yet at the same time, as a person who fell in love with wine, and now needs to drink an expensive bottle to really experience the joy of wine, I am saddened to think that someday I will probably be finding holes in buds such as these, because for right now, I am SO happy.

THIS is what I have been hoping for. The ability to blend a few different strains, targeting the issues I have. And I feel wonderful.

So my final word is that there stuff gets the job done. Good prices and great guys to work with from all accounts.

I may go other places to check the goods and expand my pallet, but for what I need, C3 will more than fit the bill.

Peace.

marley006
12-03-2009, 08:13 AM
Here's my $.02...

Peace in Medicine
Peace in Medicine (www.peaceinmedicinecenter.com)
2042 Arapahoe Street
Denver, CO 80205-2509
(720) 242-9308

I got a doctor referral by calling dispensaries advertising in a MMJ news magazine I found at a local coffeeshop the week I moved to Denver in July. The only place still open after the doctor visit that I could find was Peace in Medicine. They stuck around after closing to help me fill out my paperwork for the state and sell me some medicine. They have rooms with a pool table and foosball table, a jam room with musical instruments (and they encourage you to bring yours too), a Volcano and Silver Surfer, and a big HD TV with a comfortable sectional. Also, they have several shelves of books and a few DVDs you can peruse while waiting (and check-out perhaps?). I came back a few times during normal business hours, and the place was always packed. They have on-site doctor visits usually two times a week, I believe, so coming those days makes it even livelier. The staff is very friendly, though with the high volume of patients, they sometimes seem overwhelmed. I stopped going because even with the caregiver status (they didn't pressure me I just wanted the discount initially), the medicine was almost $120/quarter including tax, and the quality of the medicine varied but was never really up to my (high) standards. I haven't been in several months, so the quality may very well be different. I didn't try any of the edibles/tinctures/etc., but they usually had a wide variety available. They pride themselves on patient care, and they have a wide range of services they either provide or will help you find (massage, acupuncture, grow and legal seminars, etc.). I highly recommend them if you have serious medical conditions, as they are very well-equipped to provide stellar patient care. They don't require appointments; you have to knock on the door to get the security guard's attention -- knock loudly as it can be noisy inside!


Capitol Hill Medicine Shoppe
1410 Grant Street #B104
Denver, CO 80204
303-882-6173

I live nearby, so I decided to walk there one day. I got Sour Kush (I think, might have been Sour Diesel), and it was some of the best of any strain I've had in CO. I believe it was $120 + tax for a quarter. Better than anything I had tried from Peace in Medicine, so paying a few more dollars wasn't that bad. A couple other strains had looked equally impressive, so I went back the next week. This time they had at least six strains that looked as good or better than before, but each strain was $23/g across the board, no breaks for quantity. Trying to stifle my anger at the price, I bought a gram of two different strains, which were good but not $23/g+tax good. I haven't been back since. They don't require appointments, have good selection of edibles, possibly tinctures, and a very courteous staff. If you are looking for great quality, live or work near Capitol Hill, and don't mind paying more than some other places, give them a try.


Highland Health (http://www.highlandhealthdenver.com)
2727 Bryant Street
Denver, CO 80211-4151
(303) 455-0810
The Strain Man has already written a thorough review, so I'll keep it short. I signed over my caregiver status to them after a few visits. The medicine continues to get better each time I go, and they now offer a very diverse menu that changes daily. They don't charge taxes on the medicine, so with the discount, a quarter is $110 and an ounce is $400 for the very best strains. My favorites so far are the OG Kush, LA Confidential, Alien Goo, and OG Goo. I've tried probably 10-20 strains from them now, and only a few weren't up to my standards. They get new Goo varieties from one group relatively often (I just tried Lavender Goo and Sweet Goo, both were good, Lavender better for my preferences). If I remember correctly, the Goo varieties stem from an Afgooey phenotype that they cross with famous strains, with excellent results. They have a wide variety of Kush crosses, so I imagine another group is experimenting there as well. But the best part of Highland Health is rather new; they have started having all of their strains tested by an independent lab here in Denver. I went to a caregiver-patient meet-and-greet, and they had the owner of the lab in to talk to us and answer questions. He tests the medicine to find out everything that is in it from a chemical composition standpoint. First and foremost, this ensures that all of the medicine is free of harmful pesticides and other chemicals. Also, this allows them to tell you the THC %, some specific cannabinoid levels, and some other fancy chemical stuff that I didn't fully grasp, partially due to the fantastically potent tea they served us. So of the medicine that they've tested and I've tried, the VooDoo was the THC champion at ~21%, though the medicinal properties from the cannabinoid composition was pretty low (the lab owner explained that THC % has nothing to do with medicinal properties, it is just how high you get). The Purple Kush has a high percentage of the cannabinoid type that works on your neurons to dull pain, perfect for migraine relief for me. The OG Goo (it could have been the OG Kush, which is crossed to make the OG GOO, the tea was strong I tell you) was around 20.5%, and the other Goo varieties have seemed equally potent, though Alien Goo is something else, great taste, lasting relaxation/anxiety relief. I've had several great sativas from them as well. Orange Mango and Golden Goat have great citrus/fruit tastes, and Strawberry Lemonade has a slight taste and works great in a vaporizer. The menu changes so often that it is hard to find some regular go-to strains, though the variety of the Goo strains keeps me coming back.


I just found this forum and this thread, so I will be trying some of the highly recommended places soon. It seems like a few places will be cheaper than Highland Health with equal or greater quality. Strain Man, does this fit with your experiences?

It seems that finding your own caregiver is the way to go. Any advice on finding one? I rather like the idea of paying $250-$300 per ounce instead of $440.

Great work on the reviews, everyone!

Dietblonde
12-03-2009, 08:21 AM
Nicely done, Marley 006. I agree that PIM doesn't carry that good of strains. I haven't been to Highland Health in a while but it sounds like they've only gotten better. I liked their staff as well. Good for them.

Dietblonde
12-03-2009, 08:31 AM
Update on C3's stuff. Man, I just couldn't be happier. And yet at the same time, as a person who fell in love with wine, and now needs to drink an expensive bottle to really experience the joy of wine, I am saddened to think that someday I will probably be finding holes in buds such as these, because for right now, I am SO happy.

THIS is what I have been hoping for. The ability to blend a few different strains, targeting the issues I have. And I feel wonderful.

So my final word is that there stuff gets the job done. Good prices and great guys to work with from all accounts.

I may go other places to check the goods and expand my pallet, but for what I need, C3 will more than fit the bill.

Peace.

Glad to hear you're happy! When I started getting higher grade medicine and seeing how it really helped my health, I was happy too.

Sometimes I feel insecure that I like medicine from places that weed snobs berate. But this is stupid. I might have never smoked an A+ strain, but I'm more than happy with what I get now and what I have to pay for it. I had a person here tell me I was stupid because I didn't shop at Botanic Labs. No doubt they have gourmet herb, but I am white trash and grew up drinking Keystone Ice. I'm not a dude with sophisticated taste. I live off unemployment and spend as little as I can for the highest quality I can get at the highest volume. Nothing wrong with that.

Every dispensary thinks they have the best herb in town...but its safe to say that there are plenty of dispensaries in the metro area that have may not A+ weed, but close enough for dudes like me. With that said, I'm finally off to Nederland this Friday! Maybe I'll find out what gourmet pot is all about.

FarmerSteve
12-03-2009, 09:16 AM
Diet, we should meet up sometime for coffee or something, I like your style. I'm right there with ya. As I said, I went through this with wine. First off, a $12 bottle was good, but then we had this $22 bottle that knocked our socks off, so now we're buying wine in the $25 range, which we never would have before but now we're getting used to the quality. Not that price is ever the whole determination of how good a wine is, but when you know what to look for, there's VERY few $12 bottles that can compete with a good $25, and so on.

But then you get to thinking, "I should step this up a notch, this is getting boring". And on it goes. Now, I am NOT saying that I cannot enjoy a bottle under about $30, but there is NO way I am going to enjoy it as much as I have other wines. I bought a bottle of the best wine of 2007, and it was PERFECTLY suited to me. But at $200.00 a bottle, I will probably never have it again.

I really don't have any desire to end up where I could one day have the herb C3 puts out and go, "man, this is pretty weak".

Maybe I shouldn't go to Nederland tomorrow.

Oh of course I should :smokin:

topjazzman
12-03-2009, 02:44 PM
Hey guys,Grateful Meds nothing over 350.00 z.10 % if you make them your caregiver.Lots and lots of strains over 60.They are the source.The buds are always nice looking.It is worth the drive.Everyone there knows about each strain.Try them just once you will see.Take this advice from someone that has been smoking for over 42 yrs now.
Just because The Strain Man does not like them does not mean you will not.The Strain MAN was a asshole to them.he will not admit it but he was.Drive up there and they will give you a nice deal.Peace Jazz:jumphappy:

canaguy27
12-03-2009, 04:08 PM
Hey guys,Grateful Meds nothing over 350.00 z.10 % if you make them your caregiver.Lots and lots of strains over 60.They are the source.The buds are always nice looking.It is worth the drive.Everyone there knows about each strain.Try them just once you will see.Take this advice from someone that has been smoking for over 42 yrs now.
Just because The Strain Man does not like them does not mean you will not.The Strain MAN was a asshole to them.he will not admit it but he was.Drive up there and they will give you a nice deal.Peace Jazz:jumphappy:

so how do you like working for them?:D

HighPopalorum
12-03-2009, 04:52 PM
Every time the subject comes up I feel obligated to chime in - Grateful Meds has great product. I don't work there. I don't know them. I've never shopped there. In fact, I live on the other side of the state. I've smoked seven or eight of their strains and been entirely satisfied. The Mandarin Haze wasn't up to snuff, but that's my only complaint. YMMV, but I always look forward to their offerings.

Anytime anyone posts anything good about a dispensary they are accused of working there. Take my post for what it's worth or ignore it altogether. Your loss because the medicine is good and priced fairly.

Dietblonde
12-03-2009, 07:10 PM
Diet, we should meet up sometime for coffee or something, I like your style.



Thanks, man! I'm always up for hanging out. What's your email address?

kingminus
12-03-2009, 07:39 PM
Hey Kingmus,
Thanks for adding us to your top five! we are glad that you have had good experiences with us.
The reason why we do appointments is to keep the flow moving, so we dont have 20 people showing up at once and everyone waiting forever. Also to keep few people possible waiting outside and creating cluster. At this time we have to close from 2 to 3 so the staff can have a break, but as we employee more people in the future we will be staying open.
Thanks for your support!
Peace
PCC

I would love to work for you guys. The restaurant I work for was just sold. I could pick up the 2 - 3 hour!

mmjman
12-03-2009, 08:18 PM
I agree Grateful Meds is GREAT! I love the nothing over $350 per oz. I went to Natures Kiss on Broadway in Denver, and was really disappointed after going to a place like Grateful Meds.

stuartambient
12-03-2009, 10:12 PM
There was brief mention of these guys earlier on in this thread, positive but not much information. They have been advertising daily on CL. One line says "no 1/8th over 50". I'm wondering if there strains are comparable or the same perhaps as some of the ones going for 20+ around town. Anyone know ?


Stuart

jlpatient5688
12-04-2009, 02:08 AM
Glad you enjoyed it. They have some more double gum at c3, so try it again if you'd like to.




Yeah delta9 is all right folks too. They mostly had in house medicine yesterday, but their bruce banner that is on the shelf right now from their in house grower is pretty nice (all 3 phenos of it are good).



Sensi seeds 'double gum.' Sativa in effect and growth, and despite what the ad says, she is more spicy than sweet. Actually she is a generally unknown gem IMO.



Shane and Rick are nice folks. :jointsmile:


If any of you need a caregiver, we are seeking a couple more patients, you've tried some of the medicine. This is bubba kush:

I most definitely agree that I do like Ricky and Shane...They are most definitely compassionate people, in it for the right reason..Haha , kinda funny kartel, since ive found some seeds in their house sour d's (it was my preferred meds for a few months) I've really been trying your strains...Shoot, I think they're very impressive...Especially the double d's...Some of the nicer diesel I've seen in the area...and the critical mass!!! Holy sheep shit! I cant wait til more comes thru c3...speaking of which, you said you were looking for more patients? what type of benefits would i get for making you my caregiver? Because I am ridiculously impressed w/ the work man...email me if you'd like [email protected].... And cmon people, lets not be soo harsh on C3.. I think there needs to be a review of campus east mmj in foco haha :P. I'd love to see that one!

TheStrainMan
12-04-2009, 05:43 AM
now that's not nice jazz, i've been nothing but respectful to you.

FarmerSteve
12-04-2009, 09:06 AM
To Diet, we'll have to meet up after the weekend if that's good for you.

And Kartel, what else have you made in there. The double gum is AWESOME, and I had a couple more different strains tonight. I don't know man, these guys are cool. They're "right energy" type of people. Maybe I need to get out and see what's going on, but to my eye, a LOT of the business is about $$$. And that's fine. The bottom line, a state facing a $1,000,000,000 budget deficit is NOT going to allow over $100,000,000 of revenue to go away. They need to fan the flame, and it's a new day. I'm all about money from our cultural evolution buying our freedom.

But I like to work with people who, when I hand over my cash, my cash that will be buying them beer or whatever else they want to spend it on, it makes me happy. What a great deal, support another man's happiness by purchasing his or her GREAT product that you love and blesses you.

There's a ray, there's a light, there's a hope, there's a spark. :thumbsup:

Dietblonde
12-04-2009, 09:15 AM
This weekend might work alright. What works for you?
[email protected]

lampost
12-04-2009, 07:40 PM
I'm no marijuana expert, but I've found some very pleasant effects from your crop. For example, I don't give a shit what the bud tastes like

Taste is often tied to quality! If one if good, usually the other is too. "good" may not be the correct word here, maybe "pungent".

On another note I visited Highland health recently. This ties Herbal Remedies as worst dispensary ever for me. Totally over-priced. Grams were 23. Settled on a g of romulan for 23. Was ok but for price not worth it. I will never be back to this place because of cost.

Also, stopped in Biocare. Wasn't very impressed there either. Nice place, but quality wasn't too great.

So, when people refer to weed snobs on here I'm sure I'm lumped into that category. I prefer "connoisseur", but whatever. If your main criteria is top quality for lowest price, then listen to my reviews. I'm not afraid to give a bad one.

TheStrainMan
12-04-2009, 10:53 PM
Just checked out a place called Boulder Vital Herbs. $15 grams tax included

The Strain Man: The Strain Man's Dispensary Review: Boulder Vital Herbs (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/2009/12/strain-mans-dispensary-review-boulder.html)

stuartambient
12-05-2009, 12:20 AM
Just checked out a place called Boulder Vital Herbs. $15 grams tax included

The Strain Man: The Strain Man's Dispensary Review: Boulder Vital Herbs (http://thestrainman.blogspot.com/2009/12/strain-mans-dispensary-review-boulder.html)

we must have just missed each other StrainMan . I'll let you know what I think of their Blue Berry and AK 47 .

Dietblonde
12-05-2009, 04:19 AM
Taste is often tied to quality! If one if good, usually the other is too. "good" may not be the correct word here, maybe "pungent".

On another note I visited Highland health recently. This ties Herbal Remedies as worst dispensary ever for me. Totally over-priced. Grams were 23. Settled on a g of romulan for 23. Was ok but for price not worth it. I will never be back to this place because of cost.

Also, stopped in Biocare. Wasn't very impressed there either. Nice place, but quality wasn't too great.

So, when people refer to weed snobs on here I'm sure I'm lumped into that category. I prefer "connoisseur", but whatever. If your main criteria is top quality for lowest price, then listen to my reviews. I'm not afraid to give a bad one.


Well, Lampost, I'm still learning about what makes marijuana good...and I've learned in the past couple days that taste and smell really are indications of higher quality weed most or all of the time. I spent the afternoon up at THC in Rollinsville and I learned a lot from those guys. Strain Man is also coaching me what to look for and how to snuff out the good from the rest. For now on, it most certainly will be a consideration and I will strive to be more picky from here on out. I feel like I need to be a snob if I'm doing reviews and trying to point patients in the right direction.

I didn't realize HH was that expensive? Ugh. I just can't justify spending that much right now.

FarmerSteve
12-05-2009, 08:48 AM
Hey diet, I'll email you here soon. And I can't wait to get up to THC and Greatful Meds.

But as it is, I am a happy camper :jointsmile:

stuartambient
12-05-2009, 01:01 PM
These people seems to obviously pop up a bit in this thread . Wondering if anyone has designated them caregiver ? They say they offer a z up front for joining and then every 3 months another free z . Sounds pretty unique.

TheStrainMan
12-05-2009, 02:27 PM
we must have just missed each other StrainMan . I'll let you know what I think of their Blue Berry and AK 47 .

Actually I haven't been in there in a while, just finally got the time to snap some pics and write them up. I wouldn't put too much stock in what they currently have since odds are, they'll never have it again. Seems they're more of a clearinghouse of whatever nugs they can get their hands on right now as they wait for their first big crop to come in. I hope you got lucky that day and that Blueberry and AK are the bomb.

TheStrainMan
12-05-2009, 05:37 PM
Yeah, seems there have been some growing pains at C3 lately, but these kinds of experiences with C3 like yours and mine, FarmerSteve, is why I really like them.

Hopefully some better strain organization and an additional counter with staff will straighten things out, but that Sweet Skunk that Shane creates is definitely in my top 10 CO dispensary nugs. I, too liked the Double Gum they had/have there... spicy, strong, almost pure (if not 100% pure!) sativa which was like $12 or $13 a gram a little while back.

But the exercise equipment must go :)


Update on C3's stuff. Man, I just couldn't be happier. And yet at the same time, as a person who fell in love with wine, and now needs to drink an expensive bottle to really experience the joy of wine, I am saddened to think that someday I will probably be finding holes in buds such as these, because for right now, I am SO happy.

THIS is what I have been hoping for. The ability to blend a few different strains, targeting the issues I have. And I feel wonderful.

So my final word is that there stuff gets the job done. Good prices and great guys to work with from all accounts.

I may go other places to check the goods and expand my pallet, but for what I need, C3 will more than fit the bill.

Peace.

cannamanibus
12-05-2009, 06:31 PM
How about Renting Volcano's/Vaporizers $20. just as a option to members also?

starter09
12-05-2009, 06:48 PM
Well, Lampost, I'm still learning about what makes marijuana good...and I've learned in the past couple days that taste and smell really are indications of higher quality weed most or all of the time. I spent the afternoon up at THC in Rollinsville and I learned a lot from those guys. Strain Man is also coaching me what to look for and how to snuff out the good from the rest. For now on, it most certainly will be a consideration and I will strive to be more picky from here on out. I feel like I need to be a snob if I'm doing reviews and trying to point patients in the right direction.

I didn't realize HH was that expensive? Ugh. I just can't justify spending that much right now.

Part of me feels as if I've fallen down the rabbit hole - legal pot? In America? In my lifetime? No way!; and a bigger part feels like the kid who finally got to take his snotty nose off of the window and go shopping in the candy store - but doesn't have a clue what's what.

My first smoke was a pin joint in 1959 behind a strip joint in Baltimore with the musicians - probably got as high from sucking so hard as from the pot. I got to go to Thailand for an asian vacation, courtesy of Unka Sam, and also to spend 4 years in Hawaii so I got to smoke some good stuff, for the times.

For decades since, though, it's been what ever I could find and/or afford. Now that I can legally buy bud, I'm starting with expectations shaped by that background so, a lot like FarmerSteve, I'm pretty easily satisfied at first. Just having a choice of meds, being able to talk about what they will do, a reasonable price and meds that deliver what was promised makes me giddy. Now I'm feeling like an explorer, trying out dispensaries and strains to see what's going on. I look forward to each one.

I was certified at Alameda Wellness, down the street from Healing House. $190 for State, Dr, Notary. They were just getting going last month, had 7-8 strains, friendly, caring people. Quality was fine for me, prices high.

I've since been to Healing House, Highlands Health and Herbal Connections. Tried 10 strains, still learning to identify the differences in highs other than gross pain relief.

One thing about the whole scene doesn't make sense to me. That's the value of a patient. Without a legal patient there's no legal pot biz; the legal pot biz is profitable so, someone in the business cycle should be paying for patients, in cash or kind. So far the dispensary model doesn't have that, that I can see.

So it seems the way to go is to find a really good caregiver. I'd like to find a good caregiver for my primary needs, and shop dispensaries for new strains to try out.

I personally think 2 oz free/mth should be possible - adequate supply for patient, adequate extra for caregiver for costs/profit, fair's fair. Don't see it out there, though. Found a caregiver that will give 1 free oz/mth after being with him for two years, and I've set up a meeting with another comparable.

After all that, here's the real point. for StrainMan, Lampost, et al; the info you're passing to DietBlonde is invaluable for all us newbies. What do you look for, why - all the insider knowledge us long-time brick buyers lack.

So, gonna start a new thread, How to select/evaluate bud? Is this info available anyplace else? StrainMan, ya could start a Broadsterdam University - at least online, in a friendly community.

Namaste.

kingminus
12-05-2009, 06:48 PM
Can we please stop talking about C3? There are numerous other (way better) spots actually in or closer to Denver. Two or three of you love Ricky or Shane and thats obvious. Lets move on!

FarmerSteve
12-05-2009, 08:26 PM
Chill out King, this was a reasonable discussion. A shop that had great reviews had a couple come back the other way and we talked it out. I have NO personal feelings for Rick and or Shane, but they're nice dudes and there's a lot of evidence that they do good in the community. The End.

And starter and diet, my email is [email protected].

Starter, I know a guy who will offer you a VERY good deal and is a great guy as well. I think you'll find it of interest.
:hippy:

lampost
12-06-2009, 05:29 AM
DB sorry about that post. It came off a bit dickish in hindsight. I'm just pissy because I'm out of state for work and am unable to go get more herb. My job is actually trying to transfer me out of state. I think I may quit (or hopefully get laid off after refusing to relocate). MMJ is not the only reason I love Colorado of course.

THC is a fantastic place and the guy I met was obviously very knowledgeable. I went up 1-2 days after strainman posted his review and I haven't been up since although I'm dying to get back up there. Its just a killer drive for me.

DB don't be afraid to give bad reviews... Not saying you are at all now. Nothing against strainman but I don't think he's ever posted a review that's less than good. Sorry strainman, I've got respect for you and am grateful for some of the gems you uncovered. I just saw 1-2 good reviews for places that I thought weren't too great. I guess opinions vary.

My experience at highland health was pretty bad. There was like 8 stoner kids hanging out. Don't know if they were all employees or just friends of employees. Super overpriced and average quality. I asked the guy about the strain "Romulan" and he confidently told me it was a Sativa without hesitation. I was pretty sure it was an Indica but I kept my mouth shut. He was pretty cocky and had little knowledge. Anyway, this place is another one that I would say is mainly about the dolla dolla bill y'all. Poor staff, high price to quality ratio, sick looking clones, bad location/access, etc.

Also, something I've been wanting to address is the difference in effects between Indica and Sativa. This probably warrants its own thread. Honestly I think the difference in effects is negligible. I bet many people couldn't tell you which they just smoked if you didn't tell them. I smoked stuff from the black market for several years and often didn't know what I was getting. Before I thought it was all bullshit. The only time I really thought I noticed something is when I got back from THC. The trainwreck got me high, but didn't make me tired at all. Then when I got home smoked some heavy Indica, HK Cheese and was literally couch-locked. However, this could also be due to the fact that it was later in the day and I was tired and had been smoking already earlier.

Anyway, I continue to be skeptical of the difference in effects of indica vs sativa. I mean, its the same shit in both breeds!! If there is a difference it is very subtle. Its much more subtle than people at dispensaries make it out to be. I love when they ask, "so are you looking for an indica or a sativa," and I just say, "I don't care. Just let me see your strongest, best grown strains".

lampost
12-06-2009, 05:34 AM
PS, hey DB I think FarmerSteve thinks you're a girl.

I know I did at first. And you know what a great find a stoner chick is for a stoner guy!! I love my stoner girlfriend. The only problem is she smokes too much of my weed!!

justinsane33
12-06-2009, 05:45 AM
wow man. i can smoke just about anything and at the very least tell you it was more sativa than indica or vice versa. they make me feel completely different most times. help with different things too. sativa every time if i can help it.

quagland
12-06-2009, 07:01 AM
I tried out 24/7 Health Care Centers last night, on 35th and Walnut. I picked up some Blue Dream Haze ($60 1/8th) and Maple Leaf ($55 1/8th), and they threw in a gram of Strawberry Cough for free. I've been very happy with the quality of all 3. The staff was very friendly and I will definitely go back for more.

FarmerSteve
12-06-2009, 07:20 AM
Somehow I knew DB was a boy. I have the love of my life locked up, but it's always cool to meet new peeps, and I know DB is in the neighborhood, because I'm about 3 minutes from there.

Dietblonde
12-06-2009, 07:55 AM
DB don't be afraid to give bad reviews... Not saying you are at all now. Nothing against strainman but I don't think he's ever posted a review that's less than good. Sorry strainman, I've got respect for you and am grateful for some of the gems you uncovered. I just saw 1-2 good reviews for places that I thought weren't too great. I guess opinions vary.

My experience at highland health was pretty bad. There was like 8 stoner kids hanging out. Don't know if they were all employees or just friends of employees. Super overpriced and average quality. I asked the guy about the strain "Romulan" and he confidently told me it was a Sativa without hesitation. I was pretty sure it was an Indica but I kept my mouth shut. He was pretty cocky and had little knowledge. Anyway, this place is another one that I would say is mainly about the dolla dolla bill y'all. Poor staff, high price to quality ratio, sick looking clones, bad location/access, etc.

Then when I got home smoked some heavy Indica, HK Cheese and was literally couch-locked. However, this could also be due to the fact that it was later in the day and I was tired and had been smoking already earlier.


I'm starting to feel determined to at least be as forthright in what I come across, especially bud. I want be as wise about it as possible so I can pass that info along to newbies.

That HK Cheese had the opposite effect for me- I felt like I was on cocaine, but just a tiny bit not as hyper.

I've had some budtenders at HHealth that just didn't know what the hell they were talking about and didn't know barely anything about the product they had on hand. You aren't the only one to notice. And I've been hit up by underage kids in their parking lot trying to get weed. What a mess.

Dietblonde
12-06-2009, 07:59 AM
Also, I don't have a lot of extra medicine around but I will smoke out anyone in dire need as long as you're not a freak. I've got some potent chocolate chip cookie edibles as well.

TheStrainMan
12-06-2009, 01:14 PM
thanks lampost, bad reviews are a tough thing for me to do; and this is something I thought a lot about. I've read all sorts of stuff online about writing reviews; from the food critic to the wine cirtic, many don't generally write bad reviews either, as they want to spend their valuable and finite time showing folks the good or interesting, not mired in writing about the mediocrity. There are also some other considerations when writing a bad review.

That said, I will always be honest no matter what and DB had a good idea: if ya need to write a less-than-good review, drop the grading and focus on constructuve criticism. The one time I felt compelled to write a not great review was for Green Mountain Care and I tried hard to keep it constructive and the owner thanked me for it. If something is wrong with any of the nugs (i.e. pests, botrytis (bud rot), severe mislable, etc.), I promise to always tell everyone.

Also, please remember that a place can really change from one month to the next, so always take everyone's reviews with a grain of salt. The times are changing fast and dispensaries change with them. Anything can happen, even an entire crop can die and force the dispensary to find buds on the street that month (the lucky time you happen to go there after reading a great review months earlier).

So what kinds of negative things would you all like for me to watch and report on in the future?


DB sorry about that post. It came off a bit dickish in hindsight. I'm just pissy because I'm out of state for work and am unable to go get more herb. My job is actually trying to transfer me out of state. I think I may quit (or hopefully get laid off after refusing to relocate). MMJ is not the only reason I love Colorado of course.

THC is a fantastic place and the guy I met was obviously very knowledgeable. I went up 1-2 days after strainman posted his review and I haven't been up since although I'm dying to get back up there. Its just a killer drive for me.

DB don't be afraid to give bad reviews... Not saying you are at all now. Nothing against strainman but I don't think he's ever posted a review that's less than good. Sorry strainman, I've got respect for you and am grateful for some of the gems you uncovered. I just saw 1-2 good reviews for places that I thought weren't too great. I guess opinions vary.

My experience at highland health was pretty bad. There was like 8 stoner kids hanging out. Don't know if they were all employees or just friends of employees. Super overpriced and average quality. I asked the guy about the strain "Romulan" and he confidently told me it was a Sativa without hesitation. I was pretty sure it was an Indica but I kept my mouth shut. He was pretty cocky and had little knowledge. Anyway, this place is another one that I would say is mainly about the dolla dolla bill y'all. Poor staff, high price to quality ratio, sick looking clones, bad location/access, etc.

Also, something I've been wanting to address is the difference in effects between Indica and Sativa. This probably warrants its own thread. Honestly I think the difference in effects is negligible. I bet many people couldn't tell you which they just smoked if you didn't tell them. I smoked stuff from the black market for several years and often didn't know what I was getting. Before I thought it was all bullshit. The only time I really thought I noticed something is when I got back from THC. The trainwreck got me high, but didn't make me tired at all. Then when I got home smoked some heavy Indica, HK Cheese and was literally couch-locked. However, this could also be due to the fact that it was later in the day and I was tired and had been smoking already earlier.

Anyway, I continue to be skeptical of the difference in effects of indica vs sativa. I mean, its the same shit in both breeds!! If there is a difference it is very subtle. Its much more subtle than people at dispensaries make it out to be. I love when they ask, "so are you looking for an indica or a sativa," and I just say, "I don't care. Just let me see your strongest, best grown strains".

stuartambient
12-06-2009, 02:43 PM
thanks lampost, bad reviews are a tough thing for me to do; and this is something I thought a lot about. I've read all sorts of stuff online about writing reviews; from the food critic to the wine cirtic, many don't generally write bad reviews either, as they want to spend their valuable and finite time showing folks the good or interesting, not mired in writing about the mediocrity. There are also some other considerations when writing a bad review.

That said, I will always be honest no matter what and DB had a good idea: if ya need to write a less-than-good review, drop the grading and focus on constructuve criticism. The one time I felt compelled to write a not great review was for Green Mountain Care and I tried hard to keep it constructive and the owner thanked me for it. If something is wrong with any of the nugs (i.e. pests, botrytis (bud rot), severe mislable, etc.), I promise to always tell everyone.

Also, please remember that a place can really change from one month to the next, so always take everyone's reviews with a grain of salt. The times are changing fast and dispensaries change with them. Anything can happen, even an entire crop can die and force the dispensary to find buds on the street that month (the lucky time you happen to go there after reading a great review months earlier).

So what kinds of negative things would you all like for me to watch and report on in the future?

pests, botrytis (bud rot)...ouch , are those noticeable ? I should research this area for more knowledge. Perhaps a magnifying glass is good to carry around.

For me I'm most familiar (i guess) with food critics, restaurant reviews, etc. Typically they talk about the atmosphere, the offerings, the actual taste, and service. Other more specific details are mentioned (usually as well). Oh wait I also read software reviews. I just remembered. :jointsmile:
Anyway, sometimes, at the end you'll have that box with say 5 aspects of the particular product / service areas of consideration listed out , with (for example) a 5 star system and then the appropriate scores for each category.

Perhaps that is all too extravagant. Still I want to hear about staff knowledge, service in general, attitude, offerings, atmosphere. Okay weird one, the 2 places I've now visited, each said "free parking". Both did have parking areas , but I would label them both as odd parking , very tight, small, limited amount of spaces. For Vital Herbs I parked across the street in the mall parking area. Perhaps this is a minor thing. Another area of interest to me is does assigning PC to a particular dispensary come with any perks.

Also I know of Weedmaps, DB's blog , this one (Colorado Dispensaries: the good, the bad, and the ugly - Page 11 - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=131631&page=11)), and here. Maybe others . They all about the same ? .

Hope this is clear, the blue berry is doing me good.

SA

Kartel
12-06-2009, 04:36 PM
pests, botrytis (bud rot)...ouch , are those noticeable ? I should research this area for more knowledge. Perhaps a magnifying glass is good to carry around.


Also I know of Weedmaps, DB's blog , this one (Colorado Dispensaries: the good, the bad, and the ugly - Page 11 - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=131631&page=11)), and here. Maybe others . They all about the same ? .



SA

I have found live spider mites in some bud I purchased once.... I guess that means it was pesticide free? Just kidding..... :wtf:

weedmaps has some kinda agenda (making money obviously) and for their sponsors, they only have positive reviews even when the medicine is bad.... wonder why that could be :wtf:?

lampost
12-06-2009, 06:18 PM
Yeah weedmaps is questionable. Many of the reviews are accurate but there is something going on there. A place called "B Goods" is shown as one the best dispensaries in Denver. Its got like 20 5-star reviews in every category. I went there and it was nothing special at all, probably one of my 3 least favorite so far. Somehow B Goods reviews are totally stacked. This is the same place where the owner was telling the customer before me that he wasn't selling the maple strain because a customer complained of mold. Then when I was up he proceeded to give me "freebie" sample of the moldy buds like it was a generous gift! I threw it in garbage when I left.

Furthermore, I tried to post a review on weedmaps with average ratings and being a bit suspicious about previous reviews. My review was never posted!! Someone is filtering reviews on that site.

Strainman, I understand where you're coming from in your review writing. You have a great site and it totally makes sense to me especially if you want to build a reputation. I will keep that frame of reference when I read them. But I think a lot of people try places based on your reviews - I know I do - so please continue to eloquently alert us to any shortcomings.

lampost
12-06-2009, 06:46 PM
I've been to this place 4-5 times now as its somewhat close by. I originally stopped in here when nearby Herbal Connections was closed and I'm glad that I did.

This is ending up to be one of my dispensaries of choice in Denver! This place has always had 2-3 great strains on hand and when I was in last week they had more A strains and I had a hard time deciding between 5-6 strains. They probably had like 20 strains, mostly A grade. I got some amazing Jack Flash there. It was just covered in crystals and had a sweet taste and potent effect! They're also proud of their G-13 for good reason. Had a really nice strain (I forget what it was) but the jar was low with tiny Nugs. And he didn't try to sell me shit "bottom of the barrel" Nugs like at other places.

The atmosphere is great. Two guys I've worked with are nice guys, seem knowledgeable and that they won't tell you information unless they KNOW, they aren't gonna guess at indica/sativa. I always ask genetics/parentage to test knowledge and he didn't miss a beat.

Great atmosphere here. Rarely have to wait. They always offer me a drink out of the fridge.

Only beef I have still is price. Although they did lower price slightly lately, and I'd you get enough it'll be reasonable. Here are prices I remember:

G 20
8th $60
1/4 $110
1/2 $205
OZ $395

And I think they had a 2 OZ deal for like 725 or something, maybe a little more. For me anymore I stay away from buying grams as its just not cost effective at most places. On top of this they'll charge tax too, but I've never got more than a 1/4 here and I'm wondering if they could be talked down at all?! I really don't like paying over 400 for an oz as this is what I used to pay on the black market.

For me this is a nice place to go to fill in the gaps of when I can make it up into the mountains for something cheaper. Also, lately at Herbal Connections, the selection hasn't been that great. I had trouble finding the quality I was looking for there so I've been going to ReLeaf more. Herbal Connections is a nice place for me too, but they haven't had as great of a selection of excellent quality lately. And I know this isn't their fault. They're probably still recovering from the robbery!

I also feel like ReLeaf will work with people. The guy told me A LOT of people were telling them they loved the quality but hated the prices, so they lowered them a bit. So, if you go in tell them how you feel and how you'd be more likely to return if prices came down a little more. I think they've come down about half as far as they need to. You need to be able to get an OZ for 400 after tax. If they could make that happen they'd be a big contender, definitely tops in the neighborhood.

Lastly, I think prices will continue to drop over the next year as competition takes hold. Actually, all these dispensaries popping up seems to be good for the consumer as long as we can keep the level of attention low (not possible).

Also, guy was pretty cool about explaining CG status. You get a 10% discount on everything, free 8ths every so often (maybe monthly), 5 free grams at harvest, and I think that's pretty much it. Also, he was really cool and said you didn't need to sign a contract to get CG status. He even told me I could assign them CG just to get discounts until I start growing. So he said I could do it for like a month, then notify them that they are no longer CG when I start growing.

So any of you Herbal Connections regulars if you're looking to try something new, walk a block down the street and check out ReLeaf. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Let me know what you think on here! Haven't seen too many people discuss this place at all.

kingminus
12-06-2009, 08:11 PM
weedmaps has some kinda agenda (making money obviously) and for their sponsors, they only have positive reviews even when the medicine is bad.... wonder why that could be :wtf:?[/QUOTE]

not true. look at the reviews for Walking Raven for example.

Weekend
12-06-2009, 09:02 PM
is very shady......especially the "featured" disp.......they get any reviews under 4.5 deleted within 24hrs if they request it......Ive had a few deleted when I was only telling the truth.

now if they dont pay any money to the site & truely suck they will get mostly crappy reviews and they will stick

neversummer
12-06-2009, 09:09 PM
The problem is, even most of the dispensaries that have gotten good reviews dont deserve them. A medical marijuana patient should never pay $60 and eighth, that is just gouging. I think $50 an eighth is even expensive, but that should be the limit at a dispensary. In amsterdam the bud is like $12 for cannabis cup quality. I still havent found a place in denver where i can get top notch medicine for $50. I would expect to pay more around $40 and eighth. Anyone that charges over $50 an eighth should get an "F" in the price category.



So we know we have a price problem, but we also have a serious quality problem too. Even the dispensaries with the best reviews have lots of mediocre strains, and are still charging $60 an eighth. We are talking about run of the mill hydro buds with no smell or taste. Most dispensaries only have 3 0r 4 quality strains out of 20. I dont want to see anymore blueberry, ak, white anything. Medicinal quality marijuana should have a strong good smell , and taste, trimmed well, dried properly. Too much medicine with too many stems and leaves. Ive seen soaking wet bud at dispensaries. You shouldnt have to stick your nose in a jar to smell it, you should be able to smell it from across the room. The bud should be coated in crystals, no leaves, no stems. It should burn down to a white ash, and not be harsh on your throat. It should be dry enough to break up and roll a joint that burns evenly. Hydro bud is never going to be ass smelly, tasty, or as strong as soil. All medicine should be organic, even if its hydro. To me organic means soil grown. In amsterdam the term for soil grown is "bio". Anyone with half a brain knows that organic medicine is better than stuff with pesticides, and steroids in it.

I agree there is too much focus on indica vs sativa, and not enough focus on quality. If i ran a dispensary i would be embarrased to carry b-grade hydro buds with no smell or taste that havent even been flushed, cured, or trimmed properly. I find it somewhat offensive when people try to sell me this product for $60 an eighth.

One brown mouse is the only place i have been where all the medicine seemed to be medical quality, and that was over 20 kinds of good smelly medicine. They just need to get their price down to $50 and eighth.

That was pretty much a review of all dispensaries.

justinsane33
12-07-2009, 12:37 AM
here here. though i think the debate between indica and sativa is more personal taste and not something dispensary related. they can have only one or the other and i'll still go check it out if everything else is groovy.

gwendy35
12-07-2009, 04:09 AM
I have been bouncing between 2 dispensaries. The first is C-3. They have pretty good medicine. The only problem is the amount of time it takes the get it. They need to come up with a better way to see patients. The tiny room and the uncomfortable, weird basement aren't cutting it. The prices are great. Non-member is $50 1/8th and $350 oz. The kief is pretty good. I haven't had much kief in my life, so I am no expert. I did purchase some edibles (chocolate-peanut butter cup.) Tasty but not very effective. To Ricky's defense, he sold them to me for 2 bucks because he said they had been getting complaints about the quality. They need to get their new dispensary room opened. It will help with the pace.

The other dispensary is Front Range (88th and Federal.) This one is interesting. They do a high volume and it is obvious they are drug dealers gone legit. But, in spite of that they offer a quality product at great prices. Jim the owner is a great guy. The dispensary itself is on the end of a dirt road in a trailer house. It has plenty of parking. But, it can seem a little sketchy. They allow patients to smoke on-site. I have heard of people vaporizing at dispensaries, but not smoking. They usually have 15-20 strands. I got Afwreck and Mango. Both pretty good. Mango tastes amazing and the Afwreck was a great end of the day strain. The prices are great. 50 oz and 300-350 an oz. They threw in a free "Slim Jim" (pre-rolled joint named for owner Jim) last time I was there. Their are definately some ambiance improvements that could be made. But, honestly I just want a place with quality meds that I can go in and grab ond be on my way. They are great about getting your order and getting you out. They also deliver for free. I haven't needed this service, but it is nice to know it is there. Please take into consideration that I am no "Strain-man" so my opinions may be way off what the more experienced reviewer may have to say about it. But, they treat me pretty good. They are affordable. They are open 7 days a week (m-s 9to6 and sun-11-6). They suit my needs well.:hippy:

senorx12562
12-07-2009, 04:33 PM
The problem is, even most of the dispensaries that have gotten good reviews dont deserve them. A medical marijuana patient should never pay $60 and eighth, that is just gouging. I think $50 an eighth is even expensive, but that should be the limit at a dispensary. In amsterdam the bud is like $12 for cannabis cup quality. I still havent found a place in denver where i can get top notch medicine for $50. I would expect to pay more around $40 and eighth. Anyone that charges over $50 an eighth should get an "F" in the price category.



So we know we have a price problem, but we also have a serious quality problem too. Even the dispensaries with the best reviews have lots of mediocre strains, and are still charging $60 an eighth. We are talking about run of the mill hydro buds with no smell or taste. Most dispensaries only have 3 0r 4 quality strains out of 20. I dont want to see anymore blueberry, ak, white anything. Medicinal quality marijuana should have a strong good smell , and taste, trimmed well, dried properly. Too much medicine with too many stems and leaves. Ive seen soaking wet bud at dispensaries. You shouldnt have to stick your nose in a jar to smell it, you should be able to smell it from across the room. The bud should be coated in crystals, no leaves, no stems. It should burn down to a white ash, and not be harsh on your throat. It should be dry enough to break up and roll a joint that burns evenly. Hydro bud is never going to be ass smelly, tasty, or as strong as soil. All medicine should be organic, even if its hydro. To me organic means soil grown. In amsterdam the term for soil grown is "bio". Anyone with half a brain knows that organic medicine is better than stuff with pesticides, and steroids in it.

I agree there is too much focus on indica vs sativa, and not enough focus on quality. If i ran a dispensary i would be embarrased to carry b-grade hydro buds with no smell or taste that havent even been flushed, cured, or trimmed properly. I find it somewhat offensive when people try to sell me this product for $60 an eighth.

One brown mouse is the only place i have been where all the medicine seemed to be medical quality, and that was over 20 kinds of good smelly medicine. They just need to get their price down to $50 and eighth.

That was pretty much a review of all dispensaries.
Sounds like you aren't gonna be happy unless you grow your own. You want it cheap, but it has to be grown in soil, which is more expensive by quantity than hydro, since the yields are lower (indoors at least) and it takes longer. If quality is more important to you than what strain it is, and you are unwilling or unable to grow your own, maybe you should try to find a caregiver to grow for you directly, instead of via a dispensary. While you won't (presumably) have as many strain choices, quality should be more consistent, and maybe the price will be more to your liking. I don't mind paying a little more to get what I know will be quality product, and have had very good experiences at Patient's Choice. The "guest" price the other day for their best strains was $58/8th, which is ok for quality, given the present market. I've now bought 4 different strains from them and every one was fire. I know lots of places to get meds for $40 or less, but it will still be in the shape of a brick. Might get some seeds to start your grow though.

Kartel
12-07-2009, 04:42 PM
I would again like mention that I am seeking a couple of new patients to be caregiver for. For my patients,

currently in stock:

Double gum
double sour diesel
super diamond
critical mass

and premium quality og kush for 10$ a gram. Tax is included.

Email me at [email protected] and we can set up a meeting to see if we are compatible for a patient/caregiver relationship

Forgot to mention the first 4 strains are $8 per gram.

senorx12562
12-07-2009, 05:09 PM
Forgot to mention the first 4 strains are $8 per gram.
Sounds like you need to talk to neversummer above. Matchmaker matchmaker make me a match.

starter09
12-07-2009, 06:46 PM
Went by SouthWest Alternative Care Sunday, drawn by their craigslist ad KBPI's Willie B's MMJ Dispensary - Lowest Prices (http://denver.craigslist.org/hab/1498681278.html):thumbsup:

It's a two-room operation across from the DMV and Family Dollar on West Mississippi, upstairs in a bright yellow building on the south side of Miss., parking in front.

No real hassles with paperwork - they have you fill out a form that basically says "my primary caregiver is not available today and I designate ____ as my temporary caregiver." Lawyers advice, they said. Excessive caution, perhaps, but it felt like protection for them, and for me, in this uncertain environment.

Into the back room with one other customer. 8 strains to choose from, prices capped at $50/eighth:smokin:. Using my neophyte's "If it looks and smells good, try it" theory of bud buying, I got some Blue Dream and some Stevie Wonder. Both later (no medicating on premises) turned out to be very satisfactory - vaping the Blue got me buzzing on housecleaning! and later Stevie hit me early and soon locked me down. Good pain relief (degen discs) from both.

They were very willing to spend time talking about the strains, and just gabbing about the biz in general (note to self: Sunday during Bronco games is a good time to go dispensary shopping). They seemed more knowledgeable than me - not a great feat - though the knowledge level varied between the two employees back there.

They're not growing their own yet, but have a grow in planning. We talked about caregiver status once they start growing and they indicated they were leaning toward/thinking of a gifting + discount deal for primary patients once they get underway.

They have a punch card program, only one I've come across, to reward regulars. 10 $50 purchases will get you $25 shop credit.

Something cool - they showed me a set of books, "Cannabible" (by Josh King, I believe). It's a collection of lots and lots of strain history and info, plus lots of inside biz gossipy/history stuff, and some reasonable photography. The photos don't compare to StrainMans' macro stuff, but along with the descriptions should be enough to help identify what you're being sold. This was three - all three volumes - heavy stock medium format paperbacks packaged in a neat hard slip box. I loved it, saw it on Amazon yesterday for $17 (list$ 25). Seemed like it would be a good ref for a dispensary to have on hand - and offer to clients to view, help their shopping!

This was a good place. Good people, good product. I'll definitely be going back. Love the $50 cap. We're getting there!

starter09
12-07-2009, 07:06 PM
It looks as if there is the bare beginnings of a "market" for patients developing on craigslist. There are more and more ads along the lines of "caregiver seeks patients" showing up, and they are getting more and more forthright about what they're offering to primary patients.

I think as more and more people get a non-dispensary primary caregiver you'll see them getting some size freebie every month (I've found ranges from 1/8 up to 1 oz, depending on grower/length of time they've been your primary) and a discount that seems to be settling around $40/eighth right now.

You'd think this will influence dispensary prices sooner or later, lower them. I hope so - I don't know why we have to pay inflated California prices here.

Shopping for a primary caregiver is a whole nother thing. All kinds of questions to ask - Amt of experience, varieties grown, hydro or soil, quality of grow room, quality of sample - come to mind immediately. More questions, more problems - but these I want to have!

senorx12562
12-07-2009, 09:37 PM
Went by SouthWest Alternative Care Sunday, drawn by their craigslist ad KBPI's Willie B's MMJ Dispensary - Lowest Prices (http://denver.craigslist.org/hab/1498681278.html):thumbsup:

It's a two-room operation across from the DMV and Family Dollar on West Mississippi, upstairs in a bright yellow building on the south side of Miss., parking in front.

No real hassles with paperwork - they have you fill out a form that basically says "my primary caregiver is not available today and I designate ____ as my temporary caregiver." Lawyers advice, they said. Excessive caution, perhaps, but it felt like protection for them, and for me, in this uncertain environment.

Into the back room with one other customer. 8 strains to choose from, prices capped at $50/eighth:smokin:. Using my neophyte's "If it looks and smells good, try it" theory of bud buying, I got some Blue Dream and some Stevie Wonder. Both later (no medicating on premises) turned out to be very satisfactory - vaping the Blue got me buzzing on housecleaning! and later Stevie hit me early and soon locked me down. Good pain relief (degen discs) from both.

They were very willing to spend time talking about the strains, and just gabbing about the biz in general (note to self: Sunday during Bronco games is a good time to go dispensary shopping). They seemed more knowledgeable than me - not a great feat - though the knowledge level varied between the two employees back there.

They're not growing their own yet, but have a grow in planning. We talked about caregiver status once they start growing and they indicated they were leaning toward/thinking of a gifting + discount deal for primary patients once they get underway.

They have a punch card program, only one I've come across, to reward regulars. 10 $50 purchases will get you $25 shop credit.

Something cool - they showed me a set of books, "Cannabible" (by Josh King, I believe). It's a collection of lots and lots of strain history and info, plus lots of inside biz gossipy/history stuff, and some reasonable photography. The photos don't compare to StrainMans' macro stuff, but along with the descriptions should be enough to help identify what you're being sold. This was three - all three volumes - heavy stock medium format paperbacks packaged in a neat hard slip box. I loved it, saw it on Amazon yesterday for $17 (list$ 25). Seemed like it would be a good ref for a dispensary to have on hand - and offer to clients to view, help their shopping!

This was a good place. Good people, good product. I'll definitely be going back. Love the $50 cap. We're getting there!
Just for info purposes, the author of the Cannabible series is named Jason King, and the 3 book set you refer to lists for about $105 (amazon sells for about $70) in a hard-cover version, which I thought would be a little more durable. I thought the photomicrography in the books was the best I have seen as applied to our favorite plant, but in terms of useful, objective info, I prefer the "Big Book of Buds" series by Ed Rosenthal.