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Grenade
08-23-2009, 07:59 PM
What is your experience level? First indoor grow.

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. 2x 4' tube fluorescents (2x 40 watt full spectrum tubes in each fixture), 48 watt T5 HO fixture hanging above.
.2) Distance from tops? close
.3) Reflector type? the fluorescents are on opposite angles on the sides, and the t5 hangs above in a parabolic reflector.
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? Yes
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? No exhaust at the moment, but in a well ventilated basement, 2 small fans blow onto the plants


Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil: Fox Farm Potting Soil
.8) Size of container. 8 Gallon (I think, maybe 10)
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? Yes, I grew her by germinating a seed, used a rapid rooter.

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting? Was using bottled water, now getting tap water that dosent needadjusment
11) Method of checking water ph. test strips
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. Feeding
fox Farm Grow Big Liquid Plant Food (6-4-4), half strength at 1 tsp/gallon. watered daily-500ML, every other day she gets an additional 500ML with nutes.
15) Any additives or tea's? no
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? stable
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? no, sometimes I will get some water mist on her from spraying the clones.

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? Indoors
20) What size of closet, room or hut? 5'x5'x15', box
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? 79*F
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? none

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? Carmelicious
24) From seeds or clones? Seed
25) Is this an autoflower strain? no



A little back info, I topped the plant and LST'ed it about 12 days ago. took a few clones, which are doing great. 3 days ago an unfortunate incident happened, and I had to move my box to my house while things calmed down and are resecured. everything was loaded onto a flat bed truck and made it home safe. Over the last 3 days the leaves have been drooping and now the bottom leaves are turning yellow. all of the tops still look great! none of the other plants (all much younger) seem stressed at all. nothing has changed in water, feeding or light schedule (except the hour they were in darkness for the trip) here are some pics from today. Next post will be some from right after it was topped.

Grenade
08-23-2009, 08:02 PM
Here are pics from before and after trimming. Note- she was only under the metal halide bulbs while being topped, shes never done any growing under those.

headshake
08-23-2009, 08:11 PM
sounds like a lack of light. the flouros don't get good canopy penetration.

you shouldn't need to water everyday. if the pot is indeed dry and in need of watering everyday, then perhaps it's time to transplant. how are you checking to see if they need watered?

just out of curiosity, what is your pH?


-shake

Grenade
08-23-2009, 08:48 PM
sounds like a lack of light. the flouros don't get good canopy penetration. True, but im not only giving light from above, the 4' tubes are on the sides of the box, which puts plenty of light on those lower branches. see attached photo

you shouldn't need to water everyday. if the pot is indeed dry and in need of watering everyday, then perhaps it's time to transplant. how are you checking to see if they need watered? I think its in a large enough pot as it is. I stick my pointer finger into the soil, if its not damp 2 knuckles deep then she gets fed. some days shes fed in the AM some at night, just depends on when she needs it really.

just out of curiosity, what is your pH? water going in is 6.6


-shake

One other thing, as you can see in the pics from before being topped and trimmed she obviously had enough light then to get that big, and she hasnt moved from that box since. always under the same lights. Its just since being moved shes started doing this.

Grenade
08-25-2009, 02:33 PM
anyone have any ideas?

polishpollack
09-20-2009, 04:53 PM
Overwatering. Let the soil dry out, then transplant to a bigger pot but you'll need some potting soil and mix in a cup or two of powder fert like foxfarm's and you can probably stop using the Grow Big. Use of liquid ferts is fine if you know how much to give, how to control it, but since it's a liquid I'm guessing it might be more for hydro. The powder ferts work great in soil. There's no guarantee that your nute schedule is correct to use because it's not easy to meter soil fert strength. But if you put time release ferts in soil you shouldn't have to worry about ferts anymore.