Whizzinator heating pads HELP!!!

[cofergus]

I NEED AN ANSWER FROM SOMEONE THAT KNOWS FIRST-HAND...NOT A GUESS!!!

I have searched EVERYWHERE for the answer to my question and nobody has seemed to answer it definitively. I NEED to know if the heating pads that come with the whizzinator (mycoal brand, with some japanese writing on them) are any different then the heating pads you can get at a camping/sporting goods store. For obvious reasons, the company will not answer me because they want me to buy their replacement heating pads. Do they have different amounts of reactive material to keep from over-heating. If they are the same as the ones you can buy at the store, is there any difference in getting the HAND warmers vs. TOE warmers at the store. Does one put out more heat than the others. By the way, the Whizzinator lives again, just dont ask about using it for drug testing, it is a sex device. If you need a pic of the handwarmers that come with the whizz, its on their website at thealsshop

Thanks in advance

[FakeBoobsRule]

:jointsmile:

I didn't know they reformed after that senator from PA I think had nothing better to do than take down this company and fine them back to the stone ages.

Normally no commercial hotlinks but I might leave this one.

The pads are usually very cheap if ordered online other than straight from the above link or bought from the store. They probably all have about the same usage (6-8 hours) and the heat it gives off is going to be proportional to its size. There is a difference in the hand warmers and the toe warmers (toe warmers don't give off as much heat). Buy a couple and fill the Whizzinator with water and try and find out what best matches the original for cheaper.

[cofergus]

FakeBoobsRule,

I almost thought about PM you before posting this topic, but once I saw one of your replies on a similar topic about the whizz being put out of business (which I already knew), I thought I should draw it to your attention after trying to find replacement heat pads. I came across the website and realized that it was "similiar" to a company I used to get my whizz from called Puck Tech. I started realizing that if the company ever went out of business (which it did, but luckily came back), i would be screwed if the heating pads were unique to the company, hence the question. I know I can experiment, but I was hoping there would be someone on the forum that has used the whizz with other heating pads and if so whether they were toe or handwarmers. The toe warmers usually come with an adhesive backing which is "required" for the whizz. I called the "new" company (link above as long as mod hasnt erased it, otherwise google Alternative Lifestyle Systems or ALS) and they told me the difference between their heating pads and ones you can get at the camping store are different in their temp outputs. Although I havent tested, which i know is the most important thing to do, they said theirs are made with certain amount of reactants to maintain "that perfect temp" while the others at the camping store will often overheat the sample, because they are not designed for the same reason. As stated, I was hoping someone had experience and knew whether other heating pads still worked with the whizz. But throwing out the possibility that they are just trying to get me to use THEIR heating pads that are more expensive, are they just blowing smoke or is there any truth to the difference in hand/toe warmers?

[cofergus]

By the way, sorry for posting a commercial link (aka the Whizzinator link), but please pass this link on to the appropriate section, so that EVERYONE KNOWS THE WHIZZINATOR IS BACK!!!

[cofergus]

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[cofergus]

Anyone????? Help????

[killerweed420]

It could be ytie what they are saying/ The cheap ones I buy at the dollar store do get pretty hot. You'd just need to do a little experimenting and see how they work.

[cofergus]

After reading many posts about OREGON labs catching on to quick fix by testing for urea or uric acid that quick fix doesnt have, I though damn its a good thing I dont live there. Then I started thinking about how long it would take for this to become common in all states. Since I am planning to use quick fix sometime in the next year, I thought I would order a bottle and be like 99% of the people that have posted success stories...then I saw the below post in the "Everything I've Learned about quick fix" thread. It almost made me cry as I felt so bad for her and even found a link to a news story to back it up at Scientists try to stay one step ahead of drug test cheaters - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL Home (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=13215815). Now I am really worried about purchasing quick fix, especially since Ive heard of it being rejected for being odorless and lack of foaming. I know the mods say that this can happen normally, but it is a major problem if drug testing companies are catching on and asking for resubmissions based on "not filling it to the line", "has no smell", or "your urine doesnt foam naturally" As most of us know, the quick fix is the backup for having dirty urine so what do you you do when the quick fix doesnt pass the "smell" test and you are asked to sit and resubmit when you know you cant pass. Wut ya gonna do? I know that they now have a quick fix canadian version that is suppose to contain the missing chemicals they are testing for, but I have yet to read any reviews or success stories from people using it. Not to mention that I dont know if this Canadian version solves the smell and foaming issue. Here is the story that almost made me cry:


by HapaGrl808

new post. Sept 30th 2010
**** i failed my pre employment drug test using quickfix!!!! I got a call from the hr office and she said i failed!!!!!! I was in tears!!!!!! This happened this morning and i took the test on tues sept 28 and bought the qf on sept 27.......i called the shop where i bought it from and the guy said that on sept 25th a news email or story was done about how medical scientists here in hawaii has finally caught on to the use of synthetic urine and that they have or look for a key component that is not in synthetic urine but is present in humans....

So to the ppl at quickfix....hawaii is on to u and i am proof that they can and will test to see if urine is synthetic or not!!! Also, there's all this crap about drug facilities are not allowed and that its illegal to test to see if the urine is synthetic or real...well the drug facilities will not have to run a test like that if they test for a key component present in human urine which is not in synthetic urine...ya know what i'm sayin???!!!

I am amazed that i'm calm now...cuz earlier i was crying and goin nuts!!! But i ve since calmed down and now i wanted to blog about it so no one in hawaii should use quickfix cuz u will fail!!!!!

And to quickfix.....find out what these medical scientists are detecting for and trump them back!!! Its a cat and mouse game....and us tokers lost this one battle in hawaii!!!




WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS???

[cofergus]

I forgot to mention that the post from hapagrl808 was from the thread on marijuana.com's forum, not cannabis.com, i get them confused because they are so similar

[Dutch Pimp]

WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS???

the end is near for QF, if they don't react, quick....:wtf:

[webdox]

The link says nothing about smell or foam. It's the uric acid they know isn't in most QF which you even mentioned in your post. Have you ever read a fail story for the Canadian version? I haven't and I'm still not convinced lab in Oregon are testing and failing for that either, the jury is still out until someone posts real proof like an MRO report showing what the sample failed for not just that HR called and said I failed so QF must be the culprit.

It isn't time to start spreading doubt regarding a fail story you read on another forum. They could have failed that user for MANY reasons, she didn't list one reason she failed to scrutinize and mentioned no lack of foam or odor so I'm not sure why you are jumping to that conclusion. She bought her QF from a headshop and mentioned NO home adulteration testing of her synthetic like everyone is suggested. It could have been old, fake, bad, wrong temp, she'll never know since she didn't test and neither will we. She, the "headshop owner", and you are just assuming the lab she went to failed her for some new secret reason. She like everyone who states they failed didn't post an MRO report. To that end, I don't believe she failed for anything other than human error.

There have been many times over the years that people have posted fail stories without ever offering anything other than their word that they failed and then ran away from the forums. That is how FUD is spread and is proof of nothing. There are thousands of success stories for every fail.

[Jerry G]

QF has never foamed or had smell. That's not why people fail.

I just read the Hawaii article, that sounds legit.

I would be very wary of using QF.

It appears that a clean donor may end up being the only way to get into the sub club.

[cofergus]

I was hoping someone could put me at ease about since I will be a first time subber sometime in the next year, hopefully before all the states catch on:

1) Is 2-3 ounces enough? I know that SEC and LEW has stated that you are only required by law to give 2 ounces and most of the time they ask for more only to dump the excess in the toilet. I am paranoid that even if I have the 3oz quick fix and dont fill it up to the line they mark or tell me to that they will ask me to resubmit. As we all know, quick fix IS THE BACKUP so once the quick fix is gone, your screwed if asked to resubmit.

2) I have heard from others in the forum that even though this can occur naturally in human urine, quick fix can be red flagged for not foaming or having an odor. Once again if something tips off the collector, you could be asked for another sample and are screwed

3) I know from two posts that Oregon and Hawaii are now testing for something that is not in quick fix 5.7. Enter the Canadian version that supposedly takes care of this, but I have not read any stories of people using this, any success stories, or if this solves the "issues" of smell and natural foaming.

I know that it all depends on the facility and how much they want to mess with you, but like most of you I cant take any chances. The worst thing (other than failing) that I can think of after successfully subbing would be to be asked to resubmit a sample knowing you have no more quick fix you can carry on your person and no clean urine of your own. The more you draw attention to your sample the higher the chance that they will screw with you.

I will accept answers/ideas/comments from anyone, but I was hoping the regulars and experts on this forum could help me out before I place my order. Paranoia sucks.

[Deige]

I was hoping someone could put me at ease about since I will be a first time subber sometime in the next year, hopefully before all the states catch on:

1) Is 2-3 ounces enough? I know that SEC and LEW has stated that you are only required by law to give 2 ounces and most of the time they ask for more only to dump the excess in the toilet. I am paranoid that even if I have the 3oz quick fix and dont fill it up to the line they mark or tell me to that they will ask me to resubmit. As we all know, quick fix IS THE BACKUP so once the quick fix is gone, your screwed if asked to resubmit.

2) I have heard from others in the forum that even though this can occur naturally in human urine, quick fix can be red flagged for not foaming or having an odor. Once again if something tips off the collector, you could be asked for another sample and are screwed

3) I know from two posts that Oregon and Hawaii are now testing for something that is not in quick fix 5.7. Enter the Canadian version that supposedly takes care of this, but I have not read any stories of people using this, any success stories, or if this solves the "issues" of smell and natural foaming.

I know that it all depends on the facility and how much they want to mess with you, but like most of you I cant take any chances. The worst thing (other than failing) that I can think of after successfully subbing would be to be asked to resubmit a sample knowing you have no more quick fix you can carry on your person and no clean urine of your own. The more you draw attention to your sample the higher the chance that they will screw with you.

I will accept answers/ideas/comments from anyone, but I was hoping the regulars and experts on this forum could help me out before I place my order. Paranoia sucks.

If your this damn paranoid and won't be taking the test for a long time, then quit smoking. If you can't, find a clean donor and get their sample. Then your fears of so called "foam and odor" will be alleviated.

Your obviously an intelligent person so I will give you one good piece of advice. Use the search button. All the information you need is at your fingertips and I'm not buying this no smell and no foam bullshit. It's the Uric acid that they are testing for and that's what the Canadian version has with it.

[bobthenuker]

I feel your paranoia. I have to take a test in 2 days. I just ordered the 3 oz bottle. It cost $10 extra but that's no sweat. I thought it would be bigger, but it's rather small, small enough to conceal. I'm hoping that it'll work (fingers crossed). I did not buy the Canadian version. Deige, do you think this will be a problem?

[Deige]

I feel your paranoia. I have to take a test in 2 days. I just ordered the 3 oz bottle. It cost $10 extra but that's no sweat. I thought it would be bigger, but it's rather small, small enough to conceal. I'm hoping that it'll work (fingers crossed). I did not buy the Canadian version. Deige, do you think this will be a problem?

I feel your guys paranoia... Believe me Ive been there. What you need to focus on is confidence. Your not a drug user, your an upstanding citizen who is being persecuted for the wrong reasons. 2oz is more than sufficient for a tester to ask for, if you can't supply it then say that's all you can give. They are there to collect samples and that's it. They don't get paid extra for catching patients that are trying to cheat a drug test. That's why I think the "No foam and No smell" strategy is bullshit. Seriously, name the people you know who want to sniff piss for a living... It just doesn't happen. No one wants to sniff piss or shake it, their more worried about spilling it on themselves.

[Deige]

Practice maintaining temperature with your QF. Tucking it under your "Nether" reagion is the best way to maintain temp over long periods of time. QF can be reheated over and over, so don't worry about ruining it. You guys will be just fine.

[bobthenuker]

Thanks Deige, I do have one final question. I don't really have any tight underwear, so I was thinking about getting some duct tape and taping the QF to my very inner thigh, right beside the testicles. That is, the side that's going to be taped is not the side that has the heat pack rubber banded on. I'm going to wear baggy pants so I'm sure no one will be able to see. What do you think about this idea? Any other suggestions for concealment?

[webdox]

I'll make this fast because I already answered you in your other thread dedicated to your problem...

No smell and shake ever. EOS They are not failing for subjective reasons.

The article you linked reads like a joke, like the brilliant lab in Hawaii just finally discovered people are using synthetic urine and what is missing in it! For shits sake why do you think QF sells a version WITH uric acid and one without? They know and have known for years.

The person you linked who claimed they failed said they got it from a head shop. Right there the story becomes moot because head shops can and do sell: old, outdated, and sometimes fake products. No quality control, don't believe that persons story at all. They didn't test it at home themselves like it is suggested to do to assure quality control. Hell, they could have turned in a room temp sample for all you know. It could have been filed with gatorade. They didn't say what they failed for. Fact is they could be an idiot, a liar, or both.

If at the end of the day you can trust it, you can clean out, dilute, or sub real pee. We will continue to use QF and similar products to pass our randoms on a daily basis. Best of luck.

[Deige]

Thanks Deige, I do have one final question. I don't really have any tight underwear, so I was thinking about getting some duct tape and taping the QF to my very inner thigh, right beside the testicles. That is, the side that's going to be taped is not the side that has the heat pack rubber banded on. I'm going to wear baggy pants so I'm sure no one will be able to see. What do you think about this idea? Any other suggestions for concealment?

Ive tried this as well and it can be a little painful, as well as noisy. An Ace bandage will work alot better and won't be pulling your leg hairs. If this is your last resort and don't have time, it will work.

[angjen0816]

dude, just invest a few bucks into some whitey tightys. dont use duct tape! It can rip the hell out of your leg and it will be noisy and time consuming. you want as simple of a transfer as possible. as a chick, i am lucky, i just pop the bottle under my boob and i am good to go

[cofergus]

****Mods- please dont move my thread I would like people to see this one first instead of the Oregon one. These questions below are what I really wanted answered. The only reason I started the other thread was to make people aware that Oregon might not be the only state being nazi. Please dont move my thread or tell me what I can do to keep this a seperate thread. *****


I was hoping someone could put me at ease about since I will be a first time subber sometime in the next year, hopefully before all the states catch on:

1) Is 2-3 ounces enough? I know that SEC and LEW has stated that you are only required by law to give 2 ounces and most of the time they ask for more only to dump the excess in the toilet. I am paranoid that even if I have the 3oz quick fix and dont fill it up to the line they mark or tell me to that they will ask me to resubmit. As we all know, quick fix IS THE BACKUP so once the quick fix is gone, your screwed if asked to resubmit.

2) I have heard from others in the forum that even though this can occur naturally in human urine, quick fix can be red flagged for not foaming or having an odor. Once again if something tips off the collector, you could be asked for another sample and are screwed

3) I know from two posts that Oregon and Hawaii are now testing for something that is not in quick fix 5.7. Enter the Canadian version that supposedly takes care of this, but I have not read any stories of people using this, any success stories, or if this solves the "issues" of smell and natural foaming.

I know that it all depends on the facility and how much they want to mess with you, but like most of you I cant take any chances. The worst thing (other than failing) that I can think of after successfully subbing would be to be asked to resubmit a sample knowing you have no more quick fix you can carry on your person and no clean urine of your own. The more you draw attention to your sample the higher the chance that they will screw with you.

I will accept answers/ideas/comments from anyone, but I was hoping the regulars and experts on this forum could help me out before I place my order. Paranoia sucks.

[webdox]

Firstly, please don't go telling the fine people who run this forum how to conduct their business or how to enforce the TOS you agreed to when signing up here.

2nd, sec and lew are users at a completely different forum. Stop asking for their help here. This isn't mj.com

3rd, your questions have already been answered this and other threads here. It's rude to keep asking them over and over.

4th, STOP bumping your threads. You are not any more or less important than the other people who are coming here looking for help who obide by the rules.

[cofergus]

First off the threads that I bumped that you are referring to were from over a year ago. I didnt bump any threads since then. Secondly, all of the questions that I posted on "My concerns about quick fix in 2010" were not answered. How can anyone find my thread and me get more opinions than just yours when the mods keep moving it all the time. My Oregon thread was already hijacked and I cant seem to keep my questions on here without some mod moving it. I simply asked PLEASE not to move it, it wasnt like I was pissed or anything. I know that the last two times that I have listed my questions as a seperate thread there were a little less than 100 views in a couple of hours, but no responses. This doesnt suprise me since I cant keep it up there for more than that without the mods adding it to my other thread that technically doesnt have anything to do with the questions I specifically wanted answered. Lastly, I havent EVER asked for SEC or LEW's advice. All I did was merely mention their names in my argument of whether 2-3 ounces was enought so that anyone who didnt know why I was mentioning their profile names could look and read their threads. I know this isnt MJ.com but it certaintly seems that MOST of the threads including IamN2Pot's sub and dilution threads are on both website. By placing the exact same thread on two different websites, I was hoping to get a variety of opinions and responses. Instead the mods keep consolidating and moving my 4-5 questions that I desperately would like to know the answer to

[Burnt Toast]

If the forum PTB feels that a particular thread needs to be moved or merged, then they have every right to do the deed, since its their forum they have to organize and maintain.

They are completely correct in moving and merging posts to avoid having the forum cluttered up with duplicate threads and threads dealing with the same topic. If a user somehow finds that disagreeable, then perhaps this forum is not for him/her.

Reposting the same thread over and over is not going to make you any more recoginizable or get you your answers any sooner, and can be treated as turboposting or even spamming.

Just be patient. You'll eventually get answers to your questions if a reader has them.

I'll tell you one thing, many of your questions such as specimen volume have been answered many times throughout the forum. The Search button is your friend.

[OldHead09]

I NEED AN ANSWER FROM SOMEONE THAT KNOWS FIRST-HAND...NOT A GUESS!!!

I have searched EVERYWHERE for the answer to my question and nobody has seemed to answer it definitively. I NEED to know if the heating pads that come with the whizzinator (mycoal brand, with some japanese writing on them) are any different then the heating pads you can get at a camping/sporting goods store. For obvious reasons, the company will not answer me because they want me to buy their replacement heating pads. Do they have different amounts of reactive material to keep from over-heating. If they are the same as the ones you can buy at the store, is there any difference in getting the HAND warmers vs. TOE warmers at the store. Does one put out more heat than the others. By the way, the Whizzinator lives again, just dont ask about using it for drug testing, it is a sex device. If you need a pic of the handwarmers that come with the whizz, its on their website at index (http://www.thealsshop.com/new.html)

Thanks in advance

Just strap the urine bag to your mid section for 2 hours prior and it will be body temp...

[webdox]

...all of the questions that I posted on "My concerns about quick fix in 2010" were not answered.

Really? They were, it seems you just don't like the answers because they don't confirm your worries. Burnt Toast already told you about your question 1, the answer can be found in countless old posts here if you used the search button.

Questions 2 and 3 were answered by Deige, Jerry G, and myself not once but twice. NO, you are not going to fail for foaming or odor, no matter how many times or ways you ask. Looking for more "opinions" at that point by asking again and again is ignore worthy. You are focusing on a couple of random posts over 1000's maybe even 10's of 1000's of success stories.

Just forget the QF and use real pee from a donor you know or buy it over the internet. Problem solved. Synthetic isn't for everyone, you seem like a nice person and I understand you are just worried but this route doesn't seem suited to you. Again, best of luck

[cofergus]

The problem is that this is the ONLY method I can take. Is it possible to take these questions that I want answered/reanswered and change the name of the thread that the mods moved the questions to. I doubt I will get very many views under my old post of Whizzinator pads and when I try to make the questions a seperate thread it gets moved. I am trying to go by guidelines as I love this site and the people who have posted here. All I want to do is get more views or responses to my questions. Not the Oregon or the Whizzinator threads that I doubt will get me any more views or responses to the questions I want answered or as you say have already been answered. How can I get my questions not tied in with previous posts or change the thread name to get more views

Thanks for all the support and answers that people have given me thus far

[butch100]

Practice maintaining temperature with your QF. Tucking it under your "Nether" reagion is the best way to maintain temp over long periods of time. QF can be reheated over and over, so don't worry about ruining it. You guys will be just fine.

Just passed 10 panel @ Labcorp last week with QF 5.7, I posted this storage solution in another thread but I'll post it here as well, cut the bottom off some socks (about 3-5 inches) and sew into the elastic of tighty whites, this makes a convince "pocket" that enables me to carry my QF with me at all times as when we get chosen you get walked over to HR and have NO time for moving to crotch, ect. Of course I keep a small heater pad in my "pocket" at all times, keeps it at a nice 98-99 range. My 5.7 had been re-heated over 200 times and still worked!.