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Gatekeeper777
07-22-2009, 02:22 PM
Is Marijuana the Answer to California's Budget Woes? - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090722/us_time/08599191211300)


By TOM MCNICHOL/SAN FRANCISCO Tom Mcnichol/san Francisco â?? 39 mins ago
Proponents of marijuana legalization have advanced plenty of arguments in support of their drug of choice - that marijuana is less dangerous than legal substances like cigarettes and alcohol; that pot has legitimate medical uses; that the money spent prosecuting marijuana offenses would be better used on more pressing public concerns.


While 13 states permit the limited sale of marijuana for medical use, and polls show a steady increase in the number of Americans who favor legalization, federal law still bans the cultivation, sale, or possession of marijuana. In fact, the feds still classify marijuana as a Schedule I drug, one that has no "currently accepted medical use" in the United States.


But supporters of legalization may have been handed their most convincing argument yet: the bummer economy. Advocates argue that if state or local governments could collect a tax on even a fraction of pot sales, it would help rescue cash-strapped communities. Not surprisingly, the idea is getting traction in California, home to both the nation"s largest supply of domestically grown marijuana (worth a estimated $14 billion a year) and to the country"s biggest state budget deficit (more than $26 billion).


On Monday, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and the California legislative leaders a tentative budget agreement to plug the state's deficit, but it would involve making sweeping cuts in education and health services, as well as taking billions from county governments. Democratic state assemblyman Tom Ammiano has introduced legislation that would let California regulate and tax the sale of marijuana. The state's proposed $50 an ounce pot tax would bring in about $1.3 billion a year in additional revenue. Ammiano"s bill was shelved this session but he expects to introduce a revised bill early next year.


If the state legislature doesn"t act, perhaps California voters will. One group is preparing to place a statewide initiative for the November 2010 ballot that would regulate and tax the sale of marijuana for Californians 21 years of age and older. Tellingly, the group spearheading the measure calls itself TaxCannabis2010.org, stressing the revenue advantages of marijuana legalization. The group hopes to collect the required 650,000 voter signatures by January to place the measure on the November 2010 ballot.


"There"s no doubt that the ground is shifting on marijuana," says Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance, which promotes alternatives to the war on drugs. "The discussion about regulating and taxing marijuana now has an air of legitimacy to it that it didn"t quite have before. And the economy has given the issue a real turbo charge."


The legalization effort is getting serious consideration from surprising quarters. In May, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger publicly called for a large-scale study to determine whether to legalize and tax marijuana.


"I think it"s time for a debate," the governor said at a news conference. "I think we ought to study very carefully what other countries are doing that have legalized marijuana and other drugs."


In California, medical marijuana sales are already taxed, and some communities are looking for ways to get a bigger slice of the pot pie. Residents Oakland are currently voting in a mail-in special election that includes a measure which would make the city the first in the country to establish a new tax rate for medical marijuana businesses. If the measure passes, Oakland marijuana dispensaries, which are now charged at the general tax rate of $1.20 per $1,000 in receipts, would see that rate raised to $18 per $1,000.


A Field Poll conducted in California this spring showed 56% of the state"s registered voters in support of legalizing and taxing marijuana as a way of offsetting some of the budget deficit. Several national polls have shown that more than 45% of American adults are open to legalizing pot, about double the support a decade ago.


Even the most ardent marijuana advocates aren"t expecting nationwide legalization anytime soon. Instead, any action is likely to come on the state and local level. For now, all eyes are on cash-strapped California, where high taxes could take on an entirely new meaning.

VapedG13
07-22-2009, 02:48 PM
Several national polls have shown that more than 45% of American adults are open to legalizing pot, about double the support a decade ago.



In 10 more years it will be 75 -80% approval or already be legal..... as more young people become old enough to vote and these old timers with their fear & il-imformed minds have passed on:hippy:

Right now there are to many old minds in power.....people who grew up with fear instilled in them about weed and a war on drugs...damn brainwashing government

crabbyback
07-22-2009, 02:59 PM
Getting rid of Pelosi might help.
:chainsaw:

And I'm totally pissed off that politicians are trying to pull their asses out of the hole they created for themselves, by taxing the very plant that they, the government and politicians, have tried to drive to extinction.

:rambo:
Bring on the revolution.

TheChameleon
07-22-2009, 07:13 PM
Just a matter of time... I hope we can grow in peace and not have to pay taxes on it...

veggii
07-22-2009, 08:06 PM
no! I don't think the legalization of Marijuana is the answer to california's budget woes. It will only make budget worse as the polititions will spend more money based on projected income of marijuana taxes :wtf:

marijuana taxes will not fix the california budget stop fighting for it or you'll end up paying $1000.00 a ounce for your meds ! can you afford that? look how expensive ciggerette are you think if they tax & regulate you'll beable to just run over to 7-11 and buy a pack of 20 joints for $5 wrong! more like $500.
I think you all are just so hungry for legalization you thinking of the cost!!!!
how much do think a ounce will cost after they tax & regulate it? plz post your answer lets see what eveyone thinks :thumbsup:

the image reaper
07-22-2009, 11:44 PM
no! I don't think the legalization of Marijuana is the answer to california's budget woes. It will only make budget worse as the polititions will spend more money based on projected income of marijuana taxes :wtf:

marijuana taxes will not fix the california budget stop fighting for it or you'll end up paying $1000.00 a ounce for your meds ! can you afford that? look how expensive ciggerette are you think if they tax & regulate you'll beable to just run over to 7-11 and buy a pack of 20 joints for $5 wrong! more like $500.
I think you all are just so hungry for legalization you thinking of the cost!!!!
how much do think a ounce will cost after they tax & regulate it? plz post your answer lets see what eveyone thinks :thumbsup:

I agree :thumbsup: ... and, as I'm fond of warning, "they didn't get Al Capone for murder, they got him for Tax evasion" ... :wtf:

antman2
07-23-2009, 12:42 AM
hey guys don't forget that if gov't prices from taxes are too high people will grow their own as is done now anyway. There is already a big sophisticated system of seed banks and growers going now. You can make your own wine and beer too ya know .
Would there be the same push to catch people who were selling weed and not paying taxes on it ? I doubt it .
When there are plants on every balcony of apts and condos in South Cal. the price legal or not will plummet. Its an easy plant to grow .