View Full Version : Laced or Not?
markstosto
03-26-2005, 11:49 PM
How can you tell if your Bud is laced or not?
molerat
03-26-2005, 11:51 PM
it depends on what its laced with
Brokedown Palace
03-26-2005, 11:58 PM
You'd probably notice the effects of it after the fact.
markstosto
03-27-2005, 12:05 AM
Like can you look at it see something diffrent than normal
Brokedown Palace
03-27-2005, 01:35 AM
Well, if you see something different than normal, myguess would be that it is laced. I don't think you can see things liek PCP though.
vapoorize
03-27-2005, 09:20 AM
If it's purply coloured, it's laced with formaldehyde or antifreeze (amateurs). If it's got blotches of dark green or lighter green or any other colour other than orange or white, it's laced with who knows what. If the buds appear completely dark green like the colour of :D, then it's definitely laced. Also beware of horny people who take advantage of the the whole "sticky icky" thing to trick you into buying schwagg... I'll let all your dirty minds go to work on that one!
vapoorize
03-27-2005, 09:22 AM
Since :D doesn't appear on all monitors as the same colour; If your weed's colour can be found ANYWHERE (even on the treasury "stamp") on a US$1 bill, then it's laced.
Mogizzle
03-27-2005, 11:29 AM
wtf.. vapoorize.. you sayin the only non laced bud is orange or white? we get usually 2 different types of weed the dark brown leafy shit aka bush and the limesh coloured sticky wit thc crystals and a nice smell aka skunk i aint ever heard of anyone trying to sell shit bud laced wit what your sayin.. and if they did they would get fucked up.
maybe where you live that may be common but is the first ive heard about it
Nullific
03-27-2005, 06:39 PM
Bud comes in different colours, many strains produce blue-ish purple buds, red, yellow, orange and varying shades of green.
You would know if your marijuana had formaldehyde on it because although it is colorless it SMELLS.
Formaldehyde by the way is not phenylcyclidine (PCP) or vice versa, the mix up comes from its slang terms 'wet' and 'embalming fluid'. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/pcp/pcp_info6.shtml
The problem I have with this 'lacing' issue is that I cannot think of any logical reason why any real drug dealer would take ordinary cannabis and mix it with a more expensive substance just to sell it to the unsuspecting consumer for the regular price of herb.
Since PCP is cheap, maybe, but it is usually put on shit weed and clearly marketed under its slang 'wet'. Only worry about this if you're dealing with the unscrupulous type, and then perhaps you should find a better dealer.
vapoorize
03-27-2005, 09:48 PM
Are you guys fucking retarded? Re read my post and you'll see what I said. FOBs...
sugarmagnolia
03-27-2005, 10:57 PM
If it's purply coloured, it's laced with formaldehyde or antifreeze (amateurs). If it's got blotches of dark green or lighter green or any other colour other than orange or white, it's laced with who knows what. If the buds appear completely dark green like the colour of :D, then it's definitely laced. Also beware of horny people who take advantage of the the whole "sticky icky" thing to trick you into buying schwagg... I'll let all your dirty minds go to work on that one!
1. purple- U've obviously never seen any purple strains.
2. multi green- Most weeds aren't one color and have parts that are light parts that are darker.
3. dark green- Nah, that's just heavy on the indica side.
Dick Justice
03-27-2005, 11:44 PM
What does FOB stand for? Of course, SOB is "son of a bitch," but I don't know FOB.
EverydayJunglist
03-27-2005, 11:53 PM
stole the words outa my mouth nullific--i mean come the fuck on,why would anyone lace weed they sell you.Not just pcp,but everybody always talks about puttin yay on bud.That is not going to do nothing but waste your shit.Gets some godamn baking soda out of the cupboard and do it right.The only shit that weed would be laced with that will make u trip is 5-meo or something of that nature.
vapoorize
03-28-2005, 09:32 AM
Well, weed can be laced with cheaper chemicals that enhance the effect making the buyer think that they are gettin super great quality weed becuase it makes them freak out and get hyper and shit. Just to let you know, I have seen purple strains, obviously purple haze. I'm talking about purple blotches that aren't just on regular areas of the buds. If it is a dark green bud that looks like it doesn't have much on it, it is likely laced. If it has green blotches, that is a telltale sign of lacing.
thcbongman
03-28-2005, 09:52 AM
Do you really know what your talking about here? Because your points don't seem to colaborate with each other.
EverydayJunglist
03-28-2005, 05:48 PM
cheaper quality chemicals like what??
RedRainDrop
03-28-2005, 07:45 PM
Ok if you get bud with white powder on it wit brown spot its been laced with crack, this one time i got some pure orange bud that fuckd me rite up, im pretty sure it was laced but i dont know with wat, beware of acid laced weed, considering i dont know what color acid is, im not sure wat the bud would look like, prolly blackish or really dark green,
LearyS Disciple
03-28-2005, 07:46 PM
What does FOB stand for? Of course, SOB is "son of a bitch," but I don't know FOB.
french omlet bouncer?
vapoorize
03-28-2005, 08:18 PM
fresh off the boat.... meaning asian who can't speak english nor can they drive. Just a note: weed laced with acid would get you fucked, it just wouldn't be an acid trip. It would be a noxious byproduct chemical of acid trip.
thcbongman
03-28-2005, 08:22 PM
Or burns on contact with heat........
Stop talking shit you obviously don't have a clue about.
Nullific
03-29-2005, 01:20 AM
Well, weed can be laced with cheaper chemicals that enhance the effect making the buyer think that they are gettin super great quality weed becuase it makes them freak out and get hyper and shit. Just to let you know, I have seen purple strains, obviously purple haze.
Without getting into the whole purple haze going extinct in the 80s controversy or fact that 'Haze' strains have a low yield and very long flowering times which make it a bitch to grow for anyone with just cash on their minds, i'll tell you that other strains of marijuana can be purple due to the plants genetics or temperature where it is grown. I could get into chlorophyll, carotene, anthocyanins, and xanthophyll but I doubt many care and it really isn't necessary.
Anybody smoking purple haze obviously must either know someone who grows it or be in an area where only the best quality of cannabis is sold, assuming this is the case why would you need to worry about your buds being laced?
I am also very interested in how all these colours are being formed by these chemicals, for instance
Ok if you get bud with white powder on it wit brown spot its been laced with crack
Where is the brown comming from? I've voluntarily rubbed crack on cannabis or put rocks on top of packed bowls and never once did a brown spot appear. Then comes the whole logical flaw again, crack is fucking expensive. You would know if you smoked any significant amount of crack cocaine, it has a distinct taste and it would numb your mouth and throat. If you honestly believe your shit is laced with crack, e-mail me and we can arrange for a sample to be sent to my 'laboratory' (pipe) and 'examined' (smoked).
If you want to talk about substance detection by taste, PCP is described as having a very chemical taste and 5meo-dmt tastes like plastic.
LSD by the way is colourless, you would not know if there was any on your herb even after you smoked it because I second here what thcbongman stated, acid is destroyed at such temperatures rendering this method of administration a waste. Not to mention the fact that plenty of people are willing to buy acid alone, why complicate and waste things by instead secretly putting it on somebodies pot?
vapoorize
03-29-2005, 02:40 AM
Can you people PLEASE not be such idiots. Re read my post. I never said that acid would not burn on contact. If you idiots knew what you were talking about and didn't just ramble on by using big words you can't even define, you would know what I was talking about.
Not Enough Herb
03-29-2005, 04:08 AM
how about smoke ur weed and suck it up
its laced so what
have a cookie
later
EverydayJunglist
03-29-2005, 04:23 AM
bud laced with crack--come the fuck on
Dude, you can make bud any colour. It all depends on flowering times and heat and humidity levels. I'm not getting too indepth as it is irrelevant.
P.S. by any colour I mean colours that bud can be, so don't pull a play on words with me.
vapoorize
03-29-2005, 09:28 AM
lol gold weed ^^
scot88
03-29-2005, 08:51 PM
i've heard of bud laced with raid to make it seem more powerful. so if whilst lighting your bowl, it explodes and catches you on fire, then there's a good chance it isn't normal.
Nullific
03-29-2005, 09:06 PM
Can you people PLEASE not be such idiots. Re read my post. I never said that acid would not burn on contact. If you idiots knew what you were talking about and didn't just ramble on by using big words you can't even define, you would know what I was talking about.
Well its not my fault if you don't know how to use a dictionary.
By the way:
weed laced with acid would get you fucked, it just wouldn't be an acid trip. It would be a noxious byproduct chemical of acid trip.
My point was that weed laced with acid will not get you fucked up, since most of the lsd will be destroyed by the heat and thus there is no logical reason to 'lace' weed with acid in the first place.
vapoorize
03-29-2005, 10:08 PM
okay okay now I see where the confusion lies. Somebody mentioned weed laced with acid. I said that it WOULD get you fucked. It does, I have heard horror stories about it. It is the noxious chemicals that are produced during the endothermic single replacement reaction of d-lysergic acid diethylamide with the heat/oxygen from the weed or source of heat and air. You do know that when something is burned it reacts with oxygen and doesn't just disappear, correct?
vapoorize
03-29-2005, 10:10 PM
i've heard of bud laced with raid to make it seem more powerful. so if whilst lighting your bowl, it explodes and catches you on fire, then there's a good chance it isn't normal.
I once soaked a joint in everclear to make somewhat of a "thai joint" you might call it. It didn't make any noticable difference except that it had to be on fire to stay lit. However, it did burn smoothere and nicer since the flame from ethyl alcohol is so cold compared to other flames.
molerat
03-29-2005, 10:27 PM
that sounds soo fuckin good right now
gs8778
03-29-2005, 10:39 PM
who's a jigga what?
Nullific
03-30-2005, 01:26 AM
Sure there are the people claiming to have smoked acid and get effects, just as people have claimed to smoke shrooms and get effects...then there are those who have tried it and experienced nothing.
Upon combustion and reacting with oxygen, I doubt much of the LSD or related chemicals would remain. Here is the MSDS: http://msds.ehs.cornell.edu/msds/msdsdod/a311/m155123.htm (Look at Section 10)
That isn't what really matters here though, it is that acid is not cheap and in the United States is getting rare. Thus there is no logical reason for a dealer to take any amount of acid and put it on weed without telling the buyer, there would be much more profit in simply selling it for what it is by itself.
RedRainDrop
03-30-2005, 03:22 AM
Where is the brown comming from? I've voluntarily rubbed crack on cannabis or put rocks on top of packed bowls and never once did a brown spot appear.
Brown spots appear when bud is LACED with crack, u heat the crack and smear it onto the bud.
Not Enough Herb
03-30-2005, 04:54 AM
u can smoke shrooms
my buddies did..they said it tasted like ass lol but it got them ripped
i also heard shroom smoke can blind u if u get it in ur eyes?
o well, id rather eat them and smoke weed
later
markstosto
04-01-2005, 12:09 AM
Damn, thanks for all your guys help
del...
04-01-2005, 02:17 AM
in essence...no one is going to treat shitty, cheap bud with an expensive additive...hence, another cannabis myth destroyed (at least as far as those who have the needed common sense is concerned).
now if it looks and tastes like spearmint, ya got something totally different...
EverydayJunglist
04-02-2005, 02:19 AM
Brown spots appear when bud is LACED with crack, u heat the crack and smear it onto the bud.
whats the fuck are you talking about?!?! no one puts crack in weed-do you know how expensive crack is-you heat the crack and smear it onto the bud-what?>!?!is there even crack in canada???Brown spots of what??
travelsalot74
04-04-2005, 08:21 PM
C'mon. Do you really think people have the time and money to put a value added supply to their product? The economics of weed is that it is relativelycheap and industrial chemicals or other contraband cost comparably more.
I think the common perception of it being laced is due to lackluster growing and the addition of cheap or incorrect nutes(miracle grow). I do have to agree with most on this thread. If someone can profit from selling it alone, why bother lacing? Anything that I can think of to use as a lacing agent already has a black market economy that suffers from basic economic supply and demand. I believe the only time it would be profitable to lace is if you carry inventory on several products and one is becoming aged. The logic being you may be able to squeeze enough extra price from your weed to make yourself whole on the product that didn't sell. This is just my 2 cents.
Lsd, if I remember correctly, is an acid that oxidizes when exposed to air. By burning, it will force to complete oxidized state leaving a completely different chemical. I took acid once, that was more than enough for this lifetime. I am not going to comment on the rest of the lacing agents, most seem foolish. I am going to assume you will only find this problem with very low end dealers(they should be avoided).
Another possibility to consider is mold. It can turn things funny colors and make the smell and taste off. This may be interpreted as lacing.
I've been smoking a long time, I can't say that I have run across any laced stuff to my knowledge. I do prefer to know my strains and with that comes contacts that cater to the high end consumer. Doing this will make the lacing conversation moot.
I think I will leave it like this, if it smells like bud, tastes like bud, and gets you ripped I am going to bet you got some bud.
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