View Full Version : Pot size issues when growing from start
Burrizzle
07-09-2009, 09:46 PM
Ive read that if you start your seeds of in a small pot it helps them to root better also creating a root ball which im told is a good thing for when re-potting, however as this is my 1st grow i dont want to stress the plant when re-potting(this is all new to me,i dont think ive ever planted anything in my life or re-potted anything for that matter,lol).My thought is, if you start them in bigger pots there is more room for the roots to grow and there wont be as much stress on the plant as u wont need to re-pot it ever.If anyone has any info at all it would be a great help.
Dutch Pimp
07-10-2009, 01:09 AM
:)...http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/151941-importance-continuous-canopy-its-all-about-efficiency-baby.html
submast3r
07-10-2009, 04:51 AM
The benefits of starting in a small pot is watering is much easier. You should saturate the soil of the pot more or less, wait until the soil is starting to get dry and repeat. With a big pot it is difficult to maintain and control a good water level on the sensitive seedling. A small pot has a limited amount of soil so you can control saturation quite easily without having to worry about drowning the plant or disturbing it by pouring too much water.
This may not seem like a big deal but it is much easier to start out in a small pot and if you do it right the plant will barely noticed its been transplanted. I bought a peat seedling pot and when it was time to transplant just buried the thing in the soil and cut the peat lining away much easier. I used the same soil in both pots so the plant didn't even realize what happened.
dmahny88
07-10-2009, 04:55 AM
In that sticky thread, stinkyattic(#16) said:
"If you give too large a pot, they just keep growing- it can even appear the the plant is just SITTING there not doing much, but all the action is underground. There's a balance you have to find between root and shoot growth."
So i have a question:
Root/shoot growth is DEPENDENT on available root-growth space ??
Cyclonite
07-10-2009, 06:22 AM
Bigger pot more roots more bud I do transplant for room though cup to 1 gal to 5 gal 2 month veg then flower
Burrizzle
07-10-2009, 11:45 AM
Im glad i asked!! lol.i started them in small pots as if worst shud come to worse i was goin to ask a freind to help me,he nos all bout this but didnt realy want to ask him,wanted to keep it a suprise lol!!!
dmahny88
07-12-2009, 11:00 AM
O.K.
So. If i had a plant that had much little leaf size to root size coming into flower and now seems to be making the switch from [root] to [bud] up but is also seeming to come to its later flower(day 45~sativaish~ grow.?.) and has not been ferted throughout in MG MC soil/perlite.
What should i do if i would want to finish and harvest this thing in a week and a half, the roots are large the bud is meh..2 eighths ..in dry weight.maybe..i am unpracticed. Is there just a Simple all-around method for any bloom-end to do in order to help guaranty a grow/chop timing that is best? Even if you planned to cut on early side. References would help much:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Thanks:hippy::hippy:
oh
And
Burrizzle, i just plan on suprising a few as well, i just had to tell me 2 button-downs the recently myself though, just couldn't keep it in no longer, thing is soo close to finishing!!-my first one-gl with your ventures as well:thumbsup:
Peace
:hippy:
FreeDaHerb
07-12-2009, 11:18 AM
Perfect size for starting seeds in soil is the standard size plastic solo/dixie cups...make sure they are the ones with the white inside and red/blue/green whatever solid color outside..never clear of course. Go for the good ones even if they cost a few bucks extra it's worth it. They are easy to write on with a marker to keep track of what's what or even just scratch words into with a nail/screw if you can't find that marker that is always missing lol. For drainage just poke or drill a few holes in the bottom before planting.
The deep tapered shape/size of the cup is perfect for establishing strong rooted plants ready to go into 3 gallon or bigger containers and I know of someone who once had full grown 2 ft tall flowering plants in regular solo cups with good nutrition and quality soil (with coco fiber & polymer crystals added) and obviously lot's of attention to watering...pain in the butt to water alot but very possible if you are attentive. Plant's do not need as big of a container as you might think and sometimes will actually flower faster & better when they have less new root space (provided they are well established already) or else it will be doing too much new vegetative and new root growth instead of putting all of it's energy into reproducing in the form of it's flowers come happy time.
Simple test to prove this is flower two identical well rooted clones under the same light at the same time with exact same fertilizer regimen and transplant one into a 3 gallon bucket a few days before flowering and the other one leave in the solo cup nearly root bound...the one with less root space to grow will flower much faster and fuller with a higher yield before the larger container plant because it is putting all it's energy into flowering while the other one does more growing under the soil and diverts energy from budding.
In real world terms this means do not transplant right before flowering, at least 10 days prior minimum & the longer the better..always make sure plants are very well & fully rooted in their containers before doing so and you will end up with a much faster & fuller crop.
Mississippi Steve
07-12-2009, 04:15 PM
Ive read that if you start your seeds of in a small pot it helps them to root better also creating a root ball which im told is a good thing for when re-potting, however as this is my 1st grow i dont want to stress the plant when re-potting(this is all new to me,i dont think ive ever planted anything in my life or re-potted anything for that matter,lol).My thought is, if you start them in bigger pots there is more room for the roots to grow and there wont be as much stress on the plant as u wont need to re-pot it ever.If anyone has any info at all it would be a great help.
I start in 4in pots, then 2 - 3 weeks after sprout, I transplant into 5 gallon buckets. here's a pic of my current grow after 2 weeks in the 5 gallon buckets. Keep in mind that they were pretty well root bound at transplant, and I am growing indoors under CFLs. the plant in the pack on the right is Nor Cal Daddys Girl, the other 2 are Toxic Blue.
dmahny88
07-13-2009, 04:25 AM
Thanks a bunch, both of you, VERY helpful! I would talk about the things you told me that helped but..its all vv
dmahny88
07-14-2009, 03:14 AM
is this correct?:
"Cloning time to harvest time would take 5 weeks longer than just slapping her into 12/12 now. Is that not correct? "
nitroman28
07-29-2009, 09:29 PM
Why never clear pots? I used pink and blue see thru buckets on my last 2 grows, with no problems (that I know of). I've tried to google it with no help. I just liked the fact that I could see the roots and how much to water.
MDFinest
07-29-2009, 09:49 PM
light isnt good for the roots... they are very sensitive
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